PACERS THREAD FROM A LOCAL

Thank you kevmode.  I'll keep it going for sure.  Like the Pacers 2h to assert themselves and take over.

Pacers have tended to struggle in the first half against lesser opponents, and then blow them out 2h.  I do like the aggressiveness of the Cavs, but the Pacers starters get more playing time in the 2h, and they seem to make great halftime adjustments.  Pacers missed a lot of layups that they should make 2h.

Pacers definitely falling back into the habbit of playing down to their opponents first half.  Lot of value here.  It's hard to bet against a team that's 24-5, but trends are trends for a reason.  Still no clue why they do this, but it's just become the makeup of the team.

like it. best of luck brotha. really enjoy this Pacers thread 

can they cover 9 1/2 in 2nd or un 97 1/2

Crazy low scoring 2h.  I don't even think it was great defense most of the time although the Pacers D really played well at times.

I'd really like someone from the Cavs fan base or media to explain the drafting of Bennett number 1 overall.  He played a little today, and I know he's a rookie, but he looked lost and completely overwhelmed.  I'd really love to see what they saw in him to take him number 1.  Unbelievable what a swing and a miss this is becoming.  I know he's young and has time to develop, but he's so awful right now I'd be shocked if he's a starter in 2 years.

It's too bad Kyrie and Waiters don't get along.  That could be a legit backcourt.  I really like both of their games.  Whoever leaves the Cavs is going to benefit some team greatly, and it's going to be a big loss for Cleveland.  Waiters is raw and has some great offensive moves, but is terrible on D.  Kyrie is similar, but is a little better on D.

Speaking of which, I've been really impressed as to how hard George Hill is playing on defense.  He shut down Kyrie, and looked fantastic.  Love the heart, and determination, but I still don't see championship material out of him.  Come playoff time, he will get exposed by extreme defensive pressure of Wade or Lebron.  Granger could help him bring the ball up the court at times, but when they play the Heat it's becoming more and more clear that the series will probably depend on Lance Stephenson's ability to run the offense.  He's a good ball handler, and he's not intimidated by anyone.  That can be good and bad at times, but that's a good thing against the Heat.  He's long enough and athletic enough to get around Wade, and if Lebron decides to guard him that will open up Paul George.  Hill is a good player, but the Heat are a terrible matchup for him.  I'll go out on a limb and say that if he struggles at times in the early playoff rounds or even against the Heat, Vogel may try going with Lance at PG, and Granger at SG with Hill coming off the bench. 

Next game on the road at Toronto.  Looking forward to looking into Toronto's team and seeing what line they post.

Be careful tonight everyone on New Years Eve.  Party long and hard, and use the money we made on the Pacers game today to take a cab wherever you go. 

Great Job Alan Happy New Year

Happy New Year Allan, appreciate your work and wish you all the best 

Hey, Alan. I'm brazilian and I'm a huge Pacers/Colts/NotreDame fan. I'm new on sports gambling. I'm glad I've found your thread about Pacers games here and I just finished reading every single post on this thread. I can tell for sure it was a good journey 'recapping/remembering' the games Pacers went through 2013 so far... Incredible how realistic and prudent you’ve proved to be on your thoughts and analyses. Pretty good discussions with the other wise guys. I’m sure I’ve learned a lot of things more about NBA here. I like the systems you discovered and the guys trying to help to make them even more solid.  Happy New and Profitable 2014 to all of you!!

Happened upon your thread and like yours and everybody's thoughts.  Did pacers have to play hard last night against Cavs? Raptors have been barely beating mediocre teams. I don't know if 1h will work this time, I think pacer might lead the whole game.

Agree with newpacerfan but I am going to continue with the trend, until it stops working

Raptors little time to rest.

Pacers at Raptors

Both teams on back to backs...both teams had to travel either last night or today.  Both teams played very similar games yesterday...low scoring defensive battles against teams who struggled on offense.

The Pacers game was clunky against the Cavs.  The Cavs play hard, and the Pacers had to work hard yesterday.  George Hill played a lot of tough minutes against Kyrie...West and Hibbert banged all day with Varejao and Thompson.  Lance and Paul George should be good to go, and the bench played really solid minutes yesterday.  I expect the bench guys to play even more today.

I'm looking at the box score of the Raptors game yesterday, and they pretty much have 3 guys that come off the bench, and that's it.  Hansbrough only played 7 minutes so I'm not really counting that, and any game against the Bulls regardless of the score will be physical.  I really don't see an advantage for either team on that front, but the Pacers definitely have a deeper bench which could be beneficial for the 2h energy.

I'm really surprised at the line of this game.  I thought it would be Pacers -10 or so.  Raptors have won 7 out of their last 9, but there's only 1 good win (at OKC).  Other than that their wins are against CHI, NYK and DAL.  Not exactly big time wins.  The other weird thing is the Raptors are clearly playing better on the road than at home.  They have only won 3 out their last 10 at home against NYK, PHI, and WAS.  This game is at home for the Raptors which, crazy to say, may be a bad thing for them.

Like I mentioned yesterday, this is a great stretch for the Pacers to pile up wins.  I can see them in a really good groove right now, and they can easily get a 10-12 game winning streak.  They want the #1 seed really bad, and that's a really good motivating factor to not get lazy through these stretches of games against lesser opponents.  They absolutely look at how Miami is playing, and currently the Pacers are 2 games up on them and they would love nothing more than to extend that lead. 

I've liked what I've seen from Granger so far.  He's still getting into the groove of the game flow, but his speed and power is back, and for the first time in a loooong time he looks healthy on the court.  It's a pretty unheard of situation to have a guy with his talent and leadership actually coming off the bench, but he seems to be ok with it as he's getting integrated back into the team.  I have to believe it's a little disheartening for a Pacers opponent to make their substitutions to give their starters a break, and then the Pacers make their substitutions and guys the caliber of Granger and Scola check into the game.  I think that's going to be a key today.

I get the best team in the league playing a sub .500 team who doesn't play good at home, both teams off of back to backs, and the best team in the league has the best player on the court combined with a big front line with lots of depth against a team who lacks depth and size on the front line, and I only have to lay 5 points?  I'll take it.  Pacers -5

Couldn't really figure out a play on the 1h.  Pacers have struggled in the first halves, but I just don't trust this Raptors team in this spot.  They could be ahead or really close at half (and actually I hope it is...Pacers 2h bets have been fantastic), but I don't feel confident about it.

Still going to roll with the OH system.  Starting with 1h under like usual.

Let's hope for blowout today gents

My sportsbook is offering 95.5 1st Half total. So, I'm taking UNDER accordingly with the OH system here.

Good post, definitely on Pacers to cover, -5 is seems low but I'll take it. Thanks and Happy New Year Allan.

Taking your points into consideration Alan, do you think 1st qtr U47.5 would be a good play? 

No clue.  Haven't really found a trend on the quarters so I've stayed away from most quarters bets.

What are your thoughts on the 2h Alan?

Pacers -2 I'm going with.  Raptors play hard, but right now they are just not as good as the Pacers.  I was toying with playing Raptors under 47, but for now I'll stick with Pacers taking control this half.

On second thought lets do it.  Raptors TT under 47 for a little bit.  They are going to have to hit a lot of outside shots.  I like the Pacers D in this spot.

Great! Thanks Alan