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    MrBator
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 2:57 PM ET #176

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    teams off a SU win & ATS win after trailing by 2 or 3 games.................................... 2007 through 2016

     

    7-0 ATS 

     

    The T-Wolves solidly covered Game 5 in Denver a year ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    teams off a SU win & ATS win after trailing by 2 or 3 games.................................... 2007 through 2016

     

    7-0 ATS 

     

    The T-Wolves solidly covered Game 5 in Denver a year ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 3:07 PM ET #177

    The Nugget solidly covered Game 5 at Golden State two years ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

    But a month later, the Mavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

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    The Nugget solidly covered Game 5 at Golden State two years ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

    But a month later, the Mavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 3:14 PM ET #178

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

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    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 3:57 PM ET #179

    paint_help so throw that 7-0 out the window?

    It's all probabilities
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    paint_help so throw that 7-0 out the window?

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 4:12 PM ET #180

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

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    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:29 PM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    What makes everything work is my lines need to be on the team in each spot.

    Which is telling us the better  team as measured by advanced metrics is a good value.

    There could be teams in these spots that lose but my lines is not on those teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    What makes everything work is my lines need to be on the team in each spot.

    Which is telling us the better  team as measured by advanced metrics is a good value.

    There could be teams in these spots that lose but my lines is not on those teams.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:32 PM ET #182

    GL clover on your play tonight, much respect mah man @theclaw peace_5

     

    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    GL clover on your play tonight, much respect mah man @theclaw peace_5

     

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:35 PM ET #183

    Quote Originally Posted by SPark1:

    so throw that 7-0 out the window?

     

    No, the 7-0 is when my line is on the team in this spot.

    My Line was not on those teams, well at least not between 2007 to 2016, there may be games that could of lost in 2017 to 2023, I really need to update the Info.

    But I've been doing this long enough to know once a trend is set it generally will continue.

    But I doubt it will be undefeated forever that would be impossible. All info regresses at some point when the record becomes very strong but then will win again after a period of failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPark1:

    so throw that 7-0 out the window?

     

    No, the 7-0 is when my line is on the team in this spot.

    My Line was not on those teams, well at least not between 2007 to 2016, there may be games that could of lost in 2017 to 2023, I really need to update the Info.

    But I've been doing this long enough to know once a trend is set it generally will continue.

    But I doubt it will be undefeated forever that would be impossible. All info regresses at some point when the record becomes very strong but then will win again after a period of failure.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:36 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by SPark1:

    Good luck claw. I like it

     

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPark1:

    Good luck claw. I like it

     

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:36 PM ET #185

    @theclaw

     What about after 2016?

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    @theclaw

     What about after 2016?

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:41 PM ET #186

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     Are you taking the Wolves tonight?

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    @MrBator

     Are you taking the Wolves tonight?

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:43 PM ET #187

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    The Nugget solidly covered Game 5 at Golden State two years ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4. But a month later, the Mavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

     

    2022 PR I ..............

    Warriors - 6.59

    Mavs 2.78

     

    Game 5 at Golden st when the info would apply........

    My Line Warriors by 7.8 

    Actual line Warriors by only -7

    My Line favors Warriors not Mavs

     Thanks for posting, I'll get the other games.

    that Game does not fit the method

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    The Nugget solidly covered Game 5 at Golden State two years ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4. But a month later, the Mavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

     

    2022 PR I ..............

    Warriors - 6.59

    Mavs 2.78

     

    Game 5 at Golden st when the info would apply........

    My Line Warriors by 7.8 

    Actual line Warriors by only -7

    My Line favors Warriors not Mavs

     Thanks for posting, I'll get the other games.

    that Game does not fit the method

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 7:56 PM ET #188

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: teams off a SU win & ATS win after trailing by 2 or 3 games.................................... 2007 through 2016   7-0 ATS    The T-Wolves solidly covered Game 5 in Denver a year ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    Thanks for pointing this out Bator......

     

    2023 PR I ...........

    Nuggets 3.69

    Twolves .51

    Game 5 in Denver ..... 

    My Line--- Nuggets-7.18 over Twolves

    Actual line, you can check line right here at covers Nuggets -10, therefore I'd have a play using the method on twolves ,

    Actual score 112-109

    The method won ATS in this game

    Method now goes to 8-0 ATS

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: teams off a SU win & ATS win after trailing by 2 or 3 games.................................... 2007 through 2016   7-0 ATS    The T-Wolves solidly covered Game 5 in Denver a year ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    Thanks for pointing this out Bator......

     

    2023 PR I ...........

    Nuggets 3.69

    Twolves .51

    Game 5 in Denver ..... 

    My Line--- Nuggets-7.18 over Twolves

    Actual line, you can check line right here at covers Nuggets -10, therefore I'd have a play using the method on twolves ,

    Actual score 112-109

    The method won ATS in this game

    Method now goes to 8-0 ATS

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 8:16 PM ET #189

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.   In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    I don't have 2018 or I put it in a different folder which I do sometimes but I will try to find it since you did a good job finding this situation for me.

     

    2017, I kind of inew without looking this game was not going to apply as Warriors with KD were historically  great.

    2017 PR I ............

    Warriors 11.6

    Cavs 3.05

    Game 5 in GS...... my Line Wartiors -12.55

    Actual line  Warriors -9.5 according to covers, maybe u could of gotten -9 but maybe not.

    Score Warriors won by 9, my method had no play as to have a play my Line needed to favor Cavs

    but the spot did win ATS

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.   In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    I don't have 2018 or I put it in a different folder which I do sometimes but I will try to find it since you did a good job finding this situation for me.

     

    2017, I kind of inew without looking this game was not going to apply as Warriors with KD were historically  great.

    2017 PR I ............

    Warriors 11.6

    Cavs 3.05

    Game 5 in GS...... my Line Wartiors -12.55

    Actual line  Warriors -9.5 according to covers, maybe u could of gotten -9 but maybe not.

    Score Warriors won by 9, my method had no play as to have a play my Line needed to favor Cavs

    but the spot did win ATS

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 8:17 PM ET #190

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    The Nugget solidly covered Game 5 at Golden State two years ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4. But a month later, the Mavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    I don't have the first round but I get get the PR's and results to see if this method has pick up a loss yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    The Nugget solidly covered Game 5 at Golden State two years ago after staving off elimination at home in Game 4. But a month later, the Mavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    I don't have the first round but I get get the PR's and results to see if this method has pick up a loss yet.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 8:26 PM ET #191

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    I kind of knew this game would fit the method, Heat were not good according to my PR

     

    PR I .........

    Celtics 5.94

    Heat (-1.49)

    Game 5 in Boston, my Line, Celtics -11.43

    Actual line according to covers C's - 8.5, I had the line-8

    C's by 110 - 97

     

    Method now goes to 9-0 ATS

     

    Thanks again Bator for pointing out the games in this spot

     

    I'll try to find the other games. Now I'm so curious

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    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    I kind of knew this game would fit the method, Heat were not good according to my PR

     

    PR I .........

    Celtics 5.94

    Heat (-1.49)

    Game 5 in Boston, my Line, Celtics -11.43

    Actual line according to covers C's - 8.5, I had the line-8

    C's by 110 - 97

     

    Method now goes to 9-0 ATS

     

    Thanks again Bator for pointing out the games in this spot

     

    I'll try to find the other games. Now I'm so curious

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 8:34 PM ET #192

    Wait a minute, these games nay not apply, the methos is for the Conference Finals only.

    Not in the other rounds.

    The reason it works there is because the team good enough to reach that point are not going down easily. These are different animals to teams that lose in the first and 2cd round. That's what makes everything work along with MY LINES backing the team in this spot.

    I never did any research in the other rounds including the finals but it did work in the one finals game but I wouldn't count on that 1 game as evidence.

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    Wait a minute, these games nay not apply, the methos is for the Conference Finals only.

    Not in the other rounds.

    The reason it works there is because the team good enough to reach that point are not going down easily. These are different animals to teams that lose in the first and 2cd round. That's what makes everything work along with MY LINES backing the team in this spot.

    I never did any research in the other rounds including the finals but it did work in the one finals game but I wouldn't count on that 1 game as evidence.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 8:38 PM ET #193

    The one game was in the Conference Final was Warriors VS Mavs 2 years ag0 but my line was against the method so it'd be no play.

     

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    The one game was in the Conference Final was Warriors VS Mavs 2 years ag0 but my line was against the method so it'd be no play.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.   In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    2018 was a first-round game, does not apply

    2017 finals game does not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.   In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    2018 was a first-round game, does not apply

    2017 finals game does not apply.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    This game does apply, in the conference final with C's getting the win.................................. method is 8-0 ATS

    the other ATS win was in 1st round, does not apply

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    This game does apply, in the conference final with C's getting the win.................................. method is 8-0 ATS

    the other ATS win was in 1st round, does not apply

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 8:59 PM ET #196

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    Only 2 games would apply, being in Conference Finals

     

    Celtics VS Heat last year which method won

    And Warriors VS Mavs which my line was on Warriors but the spot was on Mavs makes this game a no play.

    I had the line Warriors -7, covers has the line Warriors -6.5 which makes it a bigger difference to my line, Warriors -7.18

     

    Thanks again Bator, you made my job much easier.

    The thing is this is the kind of spot will not come up very often so it is going to be a small sample of games, nothing you can really do about that. But I've been doing this kind of stuff for a long time that small samples don't necessarily scare me, if the info is based on good solid handicapping principles with advanced metrics I will trust and believe in it. I don't let a loss or 2 or 3 scare me off either as I know good will not be 100% correct, I don't expect it to be 100% I only try to put the probabilities in my favor the best I can knowing it will bounce back at some point.

    The one thing really motivates me to do this kind of research is, I love to know things like different spots, different info that the Analyst or not many others for that matter would know, I think you can get great value in these kinds of situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Not a lotta examples of road teams winning Game 4 to stave off elimination. Last year the Celtics did this, and then they won Game 5 at home over the Heat by 13 points.

     

    Only 2 games would apply, being in Conference Finals

     

    Celtics VS Heat last year which method won

    And Warriors VS Mavs which my line was on Warriors but the spot was on Mavs makes this game a no play.

    I had the line Warriors -7, covers has the line Warriors -6.5 which makes it a bigger difference to my line, Warriors -7.18

     

    Thanks again Bator, you made my job much easier.

    The thing is this is the kind of spot will not come up very often so it is going to be a small sample of games, nothing you can really do about that. But I've been doing this kind of stuff for a long time that small samples don't necessarily scare me, if the info is based on good solid handicapping principles with advanced metrics I will trust and believe in it. I don't let a loss or 2 or 3 scare me off either as I know good will not be 100% correct, I don't expect it to be 100% I only try to put the probabilities in my favor the best I can knowing it will bounce back at some point.

    The one thing really motivates me to do this kind of research is, I love to know things like different spots, different info that the Analyst or not many others for that matter would know, I think you can get great value in these kinds of situations.

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2024 - 9:44 PM ET #197

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.   In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    I want to look up 2018 although it was the first round and does not apply. 

    PR I .................................

    Warriors 8.62

    Spurs 2.32

     

    game 5 at GS .............My Line GS -10.3

    Actual line, I have it GS -10.5 and -11, closes -11, covers has closing line -11, so my line does favor the Spurs but technically would not be a play as I need at least a 1 pt diff.

    GS won 99-91 with Spurs ATS winners, interesting that the method did WIN ATS with my line favoring the Spurs.

     

    Some day soon hopefully I'll have time to do a similar thing for the 2cd round with different spots and my lines on the same team. And the 1st round as well.

    I already have the Finals, basically every game of the Finals but my line needs to be on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    In 2018, the Spurs covered Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.   In the 2017 Finals, the Cavs failed to cover Game 5 at Golden State after staving off elimination at home in Game 4.

     

    I want to look up 2018 although it was the first round and does not apply. 

    PR I .................................

    Warriors 8.62

    Spurs 2.32

     

    game 5 at GS .............My Line GS -10.3

    Actual line, I have it GS -10.5 and -11, closes -11, covers has closing line -11, so my line does favor the Spurs but technically would not be a play as I need at least a 1 pt diff.

    GS won 99-91 with Spurs ATS winners, interesting that the method did WIN ATS with my line favoring the Spurs.

     

    Some day soon hopefully I'll have time to do a similar thing for the 2cd round with different spots and my lines on the same team. And the 1st round as well.

    I already have the Finals, basically every game of the Finals but my line needs to be on the team.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macwestie1:

    GL  on your play tonight, much respect mah man @theclaw

     

    Thank you ...................................peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macwestie1:

    GL  on your play tonight, much respect mah man @theclaw

     

    Thank you ...................................peace_5

     
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    0-1, lost 1.1 units

    playoffs --- 17-13, won 6.25 units

    futures --- 0-1, lost 1 unit

     

    Wow, Mavs layed a beatdown on Twolves. The greatest backcourt in history did it again.  Unreal the way these 2 are playing.

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    0-1, lost 1.1 units

    playoffs --- 17-13, won 6.25 units

    futures --- 0-1, lost 1 unit

     

    Wow, Mavs layed a beatdown on Twolves. The greatest backcourt in history did it again.  Unreal the way these 2 are playing.

     
     
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    The method..... trailing by 2 games or more then off a SU & ATS win and my line has a 1 pt diff goes to 8-1 ATS.

    Realistically it is not going to be undefeated forever. But it still remains a great spot. Not sure how that works in the finals, but I'll have info for the finals games.

    It did seem to somewhat work in the other rounds beside conference finals.

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    The method..... trailing by 2 games or more then off a SU & ATS win and my line has a 1 pt diff goes to 8-1 ATS.

    Realistically it is not going to be undefeated forever. But it still remains a great spot. Not sure how that works in the finals, but I'll have info for the finals games.

    It did seem to somewhat work in the other rounds beside conference finals.

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