Bipartisan policy center warns that photo id would not be enough for voting under SAVE act. Additional documents such as passport or birth certificate would be required to prove citizenship. But millions of US citizens don't have proof of citizenship. Almost half of eligible voters don't have a passport. Also privacy problem to require states to share voter information with department of homeland security to verify citizenship. In the past, courts struck down too restrictive id laws that suppress minority voters.
Bipartisan policy center warns that photo id would not be enough for voting under SAVE act. Additional documents such as passport or birth certificate would be required to prove citizenship. But millions of US citizens don't have proof of citizenship. Almost half of eligible voters don't have a passport. Also privacy problem to require states to share voter information with department of homeland security to verify citizenship. In the past, courts struck down too restrictive id laws that suppress minority voters.
@thirdperson I never mentioned ICE at all. It is called "private security". The list of airports posted all have it and don't have these issues the other airports do. Private security contract in place of TSA agents. Next time it might help to read something before you comment on it
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
@thirdperson I never mentioned ICE at all. It is called "private security". The list of airports posted all have it and don't have these issues the other airports do. Private security contract in place of TSA agents. Next time it might help to read something before you comment on it
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Wally the Master Debater and man of most contention in this forum.....
Here's what he said:
My wife had her name changed and she has not engaged with the SS and there have been no issues with her having taxes taken out so I have no real idea what in mass issue you are talking about
Do you even know what you are saying here? You might want to brush up on your facts their big guy because you sound life a self righteous entitled covers wine enthusiast....Any employee wishing to change their name from what they originally provided their employer upon hire would be required to show proof to their employer that they have officially changed their name. This usually comes by way of a marriage certificate or Social Security card. You thinking that a woman changing her name in any capacity affects the ability for taxes by an employer to be reported just shows how little you know. However, if your wife legally and accurately changed her name with her employer then she had to show proof of this as the I9 would have to have documentation that the new documents were seen by the employer and then documented under reverification.
And keep in mind that a woman taking a mans last name is not required, it is a choice, and with choices come obligations....using some lame retort that because it does not affect me and therefore I am insensitive to women or I am chauvinistic as result as a moronic statement...I already addressed with you that name changes require Americans to go through the proper channels to update their records if they choose to do so....unfortunately, just as you and many others do so here, you turn a blind eye to actual facts that are presented to so you can continue your master debating about a topic you actually are claiming is an issue, when it is not, and which is a legal matter and you and people like your wife are contributing to the actual problem....
Just because your wife and others decided not to handle name changes the correct way does not mean that this falls on the government and it should wait to take action on something to allow all of the nonconforming individuals to catch up....that's the most idiotic defense I have ever heard....anyone's actions of failing to comply with the requirements to legitimize who you are does not fall on the government, it falls on you the citizen....
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Wally the Master Debater and man of most contention in this forum.....
Here's what he said:
My wife had her name changed and she has not engaged with the SS and there have been no issues with her having taxes taken out so I have no real idea what in mass issue you are talking about
Do you even know what you are saying here? You might want to brush up on your facts their big guy because you sound life a self righteous entitled covers wine enthusiast....Any employee wishing to change their name from what they originally provided their employer upon hire would be required to show proof to their employer that they have officially changed their name. This usually comes by way of a marriage certificate or Social Security card. You thinking that a woman changing her name in any capacity affects the ability for taxes by an employer to be reported just shows how little you know. However, if your wife legally and accurately changed her name with her employer then she had to show proof of this as the I9 would have to have documentation that the new documents were seen by the employer and then documented under reverification.
And keep in mind that a woman taking a mans last name is not required, it is a choice, and with choices come obligations....using some lame retort that because it does not affect me and therefore I am insensitive to women or I am chauvinistic as result as a moronic statement...I already addressed with you that name changes require Americans to go through the proper channels to update their records if they choose to do so....unfortunately, just as you and many others do so here, you turn a blind eye to actual facts that are presented to so you can continue your master debating about a topic you actually are claiming is an issue, when it is not, and which is a legal matter and you and people like your wife are contributing to the actual problem....
Just because your wife and others decided not to handle name changes the correct way does not mean that this falls on the government and it should wait to take action on something to allow all of the nonconforming individuals to catch up....that's the most idiotic defense I have ever heard....anyone's actions of failing to comply with the requirements to legitimize who you are does not fall on the government, it falls on you the citizen....
Just in case you are in doubt about the subject you are so adamantly defending in which was a requirement of a US citizen, here is the exact language from SSA's website:
"If you legally change your name because of marriage, divorce, or court order or need to correct your name for other reasons, you must tell us. This way you can get a replacement Social Security number (SSN) card with your correct legal name. Visit Defining the Legal Name for an SSN for more information."
So the rest of America is supposed to care and wait that your wife and others didn't take care of their responsibilities....you know how crazy that sounds right....anyone arguing this point about suppressing women from voting when the SAVE act is implemented is an idiot if you are supporting anyone, not just women, who have not followed proper protocols to change your name properly and correctly....and when I give a real life example of how I changed my last name the legal and correct way I get called a snob.....this sounds similar to all you illegal supporters out there who don't take into account that other illegals came here and went through the process successfully...if they can do it, why are the others not? Why are you supporting that? Nothing logical about most people anymore and this is proof of how people think out there which is frightening....
Keep arguing your baseless point about suppressing women or whoever it is when they are lazy and CHOSE not to follow citizen standards and requirements and prove who they are with SSA...this is a requirement not a choice....the only choice is that those people chose not to follow legal requirements, but guess what, you have plenty of time to get your affairs in order and correct this without penalty or consequence to you for failing to do it when you were supposed to...
Whaa...whaaa....I don't want to do the proper things as a US citizen, so I'll do what I want and complain about it......
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Just in case you are in doubt about the subject you are so adamantly defending in which was a requirement of a US citizen, here is the exact language from SSA's website:
"If you legally change your name because of marriage, divorce, or court order or need to correct your name for other reasons, you must tell us. This way you can get a replacement Social Security number (SSN) card with your correct legal name. Visit Defining the Legal Name for an SSN for more information."
So the rest of America is supposed to care and wait that your wife and others didn't take care of their responsibilities....you know how crazy that sounds right....anyone arguing this point about suppressing women from voting when the SAVE act is implemented is an idiot if you are supporting anyone, not just women, who have not followed proper protocols to change your name properly and correctly....and when I give a real life example of how I changed my last name the legal and correct way I get called a snob.....this sounds similar to all you illegal supporters out there who don't take into account that other illegals came here and went through the process successfully...if they can do it, why are the others not? Why are you supporting that? Nothing logical about most people anymore and this is proof of how people think out there which is frightening....
Keep arguing your baseless point about suppressing women or whoever it is when they are lazy and CHOSE not to follow citizen standards and requirements and prove who they are with SSA...this is a requirement not a choice....the only choice is that those people chose not to follow legal requirements, but guess what, you have plenty of time to get your affairs in order and correct this without penalty or consequence to you for failing to do it when you were supposed to...
Whaa...whaaa....I don't want to do the proper things as a US citizen, so I'll do what I want and complain about it......
8 states have all vote by mail; 15 states require no photo ID to vote. Overlap is at least 6 or 7 states. From those states you can win: Electoral college = 25%, House Seats = 27%; Senate Seats = 16% Basically, you are looking at 20-25% (maybe even higher) of the USA political power and they want to grow that percentage.
That nick Shirley guy is already uncovering so much out here in California it's not even funny....not saying it flips our state, and that isn't the issue for me....for me, it's integrity....I'm not saying that voting is currently being frauded or that anyone is cheating, but you shouldn't be holding elections unless you know for a fact that the person voting is who they say they are....this is a very reasonable concept to understand and something should be implemented....or is it that the people would rather the government continue to be ran inefficiently forever....implementing any reasonable solutions or changes should be embraced....proving who you are should be at the very core of our nation and why it is met with such combativeness is beyond me....so many complainers with no solutionists....absolutely incredible....
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
8 states have all vote by mail; 15 states require no photo ID to vote. Overlap is at least 6 or 7 states. From those states you can win: Electoral college = 25%, House Seats = 27%; Senate Seats = 16% Basically, you are looking at 20-25% (maybe even higher) of the USA political power and they want to grow that percentage.
That nick Shirley guy is already uncovering so much out here in California it's not even funny....not saying it flips our state, and that isn't the issue for me....for me, it's integrity....I'm not saying that voting is currently being frauded or that anyone is cheating, but you shouldn't be holding elections unless you know for a fact that the person voting is who they say they are....this is a very reasonable concept to understand and something should be implemented....or is it that the people would rather the government continue to be ran inefficiently forever....implementing any reasonable solutions or changes should be embraced....proving who you are should be at the very core of our nation and why it is met with such combativeness is beyond me....so many complainers with no solutionists....absolutely incredible....
I keep making the same point and you keep flipping the same retort. Proving your name is not the same as submitting a marriage name change, one requires actual interaction and documentation and the other is a passive notification. You dont understand because you are a MALE and are not subject to this change, this requirement is biased and discriminatory to WOMEN...that means it is imbalanced and partial against women. There should not be a requirement for ONE group of legal citizens to comply when it is not for all, that is absurdity.
Congrats on being an employer yeah nobody else has experience with this topic, yeah nobody but you gets it. How humorous you have no idea what the background of others are or me specifically but keep with the knowledge base superiority stuff it really sticks nicely. Notice that I am not throwing down any of my business background or experience and the reason for that is the issue is not the impact on ME or MY experience or knowledge it is that this scam is a burden and requirement for ONE group of people and that alone makes it wrong because as of NOW this group can vote like the BIG MEN can but with this SAVE voter suppression scam that changes and as your pal above mentioned that every measure to alter outcomes has a benefit and THAT is the objective..we do not have voter fraud to any extent that this nonsense is necessary it is all about thinning the heard and gaining an advantage.
@ABooksNightmare
I keep making the same point and you keep flipping the same retort. Proving your name is not the same as submitting a marriage name change, one requires actual interaction and documentation and the other is a passive notification. You dont understand because you are a MALE and are not subject to this change, this requirement is biased and discriminatory to WOMEN...that means it is imbalanced and partial against women. There should not be a requirement for ONE group of legal citizens to comply when it is not for all, that is absurdity.
Congrats on being an employer yeah nobody else has experience with this topic, yeah nobody but you gets it. How humorous you have no idea what the background of others are or me specifically but keep with the knowledge base superiority stuff it really sticks nicely. Notice that I am not throwing down any of my business background or experience and the reason for that is the issue is not the impact on ME or MY experience or knowledge it is that this scam is a burden and requirement for ONE group of people and that alone makes it wrong because as of NOW this group can vote like the BIG MEN can but with this SAVE voter suppression scam that changes and as your pal above mentioned that every measure to alter outcomes has a benefit and THAT is the objective..we do not have voter fraud to any extent that this nonsense is necessary it is all about thinning the heard and gaining an advantage.
You should do more open minded research into Nick Shirley, the guy takes information and spins it to the point of deception and fraud, his scams have been uncovered multiple times so make sure you know your resources before trusting a partisan ultra conservative dood with a strong pointed agenda.
@ABooksNightmare
You should do more open minded research into Nick Shirley, the guy takes information and spins it to the point of deception and fraud, his scams have been uncovered multiple times so make sure you know your resources before trusting a partisan ultra conservative dood with a strong pointed agenda.
@ABooksNightmare I keep making the same point and you keep flipping the same retort. Proving your name is not the same as submitting a marriage name change, one requires actual interaction and documentation and the other is a passive notification. You dont understand because you are a MALE and are not subject to this change, this requirement is biased and discriminatory to WOMEN...that means it is imbalanced and partial against women. There should not be a requirement for ONE group of legal citizens to comply when it is not for all, that is absurdity. Congrats on being an employer yeah nobody else has experience with this topic, yeah nobody but you gets it. How humorous you have no idea what the background of others are or me specifically but keep with the knowledge base superiority stuff it really sticks nicely. Notice that I am not throwing down any of my business background or experience and the reason for that is the issue is not the impact on ME or MY experience or knowledge it is that this scam is a burden and requirement for ONE group of people and that alone makes it wrong because as of NOW this group can vote like the BIG MEN can but with this SAVE voter suppression scam that changes and as your pal above mentioned that every measure to alter outcomes has a benefit and THAT is the objective..we do not have voter fraud to any extent that this nonsense is necessary it is all about thinning the heard and gaining an advantage.
there he is the Master Debater....ignoring most, if not all, of what I said....I changed my name but let's ignore that I did that and had to provide documents that were old and I had zero problem...this is just an example that you continue to shut down in every reply you make...are you that incompetent that you can't grasp that I had to go through the same process, except for a marriage certificate, to legally change my name....it's like you are a box with no lid.....the point I was making was that I did what these women were supposed to do and I didn't have to change my last name, just as there women didn't, but if you do the law requires to file proper records with the governing agencies...
You can argue all you want, but it just makes you look dumb....if you want to be mad at anything, be mad all the women who should have legally changed their names when they made this choice and failed to do so.....instead you give them a pass and act like they are being suppressed when they are not....quit arguing a choice made and it has zero to do with me being a man as that is also a ridiculous point....I have made my case here and explained the requirement and all you can do is argue your feelings....well, my points are not coming from feelings, they are coming from requirements....
But hey, let's keep the contention going
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@ABooksNightmare I keep making the same point and you keep flipping the same retort. Proving your name is not the same as submitting a marriage name change, one requires actual interaction and documentation and the other is a passive notification. You dont understand because you are a MALE and are not subject to this change, this requirement is biased and discriminatory to WOMEN...that means it is imbalanced and partial against women. There should not be a requirement for ONE group of legal citizens to comply when it is not for all, that is absurdity. Congrats on being an employer yeah nobody else has experience with this topic, yeah nobody but you gets it. How humorous you have no idea what the background of others are or me specifically but keep with the knowledge base superiority stuff it really sticks nicely. Notice that I am not throwing down any of my business background or experience and the reason for that is the issue is not the impact on ME or MY experience or knowledge it is that this scam is a burden and requirement for ONE group of people and that alone makes it wrong because as of NOW this group can vote like the BIG MEN can but with this SAVE voter suppression scam that changes and as your pal above mentioned that every measure to alter outcomes has a benefit and THAT is the objective..we do not have voter fraud to any extent that this nonsense is necessary it is all about thinning the heard and gaining an advantage.
there he is the Master Debater....ignoring most, if not all, of what I said....I changed my name but let's ignore that I did that and had to provide documents that were old and I had zero problem...this is just an example that you continue to shut down in every reply you make...are you that incompetent that you can't grasp that I had to go through the same process, except for a marriage certificate, to legally change my name....it's like you are a box with no lid.....the point I was making was that I did what these women were supposed to do and I didn't have to change my last name, just as there women didn't, but if you do the law requires to file proper records with the governing agencies...
You can argue all you want, but it just makes you look dumb....if you want to be mad at anything, be mad all the women who should have legally changed their names when they made this choice and failed to do so.....instead you give them a pass and act like they are being suppressed when they are not....quit arguing a choice made and it has zero to do with me being a man as that is also a ridiculous point....I have made my case here and explained the requirement and all you can do is argue your feelings....well, my points are not coming from feelings, they are coming from requirements....
You have to resort to calling me dumb, you can do better than this. The remark you made about women shows your true character it is tacky, classless and partisan. I am a male but I still am more concerned about the impacts this stupid idea has and the intention this scam positions. It is a voter suppression and exhaustion ploy and unless every single person has to go through the process even WHITE MEN then it is not reasonable, respectful or of social benefit.
Yeah you got me I am dumb...cool retort bro.
@ABooksNightmare
You have to resort to calling me dumb, you can do better than this. The remark you made about women shows your true character it is tacky, classless and partisan. I am a male but I still am more concerned about the impacts this stupid idea has and the intention this scam positions. It is a voter suppression and exhaustion ploy and unless every single person has to go through the process even WHITE MEN then it is not reasonable, respectful or of social benefit.
@ABooksNightmare I usually read most of your posts but I gotta tell ya....you're starting to sound pretty damn whiny. Anyway, here are some facts. Democrats have introduced bills to end the TSA shutdown on: March 5th March 11th March 15th March 18th March 19th (2x) March 21st March 23rd REPUBLICANS BLOCKED TSA FUNDING EVERY SINGLE TIME!
The discussion between wall and I has nothing to do with TSA...we are only discussing the suppression of women being able to vote, so if you think it is whiny that's on you...it has nothing to do with the TSA as that is an entirely separate issue and explaining facts about alleged women voting suppression, which is completely inaccurate, is not whining but about facts about how it is not you and I's problem that women, or others who went through a name change and didn't legally follow the proper protocols to accurately and correctly have their name changed with the governing agencies...
If you feel that is whinny, as you stated, then maybe the issue is with you not with me....even providing a real life example of me I was called snobby, but yea go ahead and ignore all of those points while you contest a point that is not even about our discussion....
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@ABooksNightmare I usually read most of your posts but I gotta tell ya....you're starting to sound pretty damn whiny. Anyway, here are some facts. Democrats have introduced bills to end the TSA shutdown on: March 5th March 11th March 15th March 18th March 19th (2x) March 21st March 23rd REPUBLICANS BLOCKED TSA FUNDING EVERY SINGLE TIME!
The discussion between wall and I has nothing to do with TSA...we are only discussing the suppression of women being able to vote, so if you think it is whiny that's on you...it has nothing to do with the TSA as that is an entirely separate issue and explaining facts about alleged women voting suppression, which is completely inaccurate, is not whining but about facts about how it is not you and I's problem that women, or others who went through a name change and didn't legally follow the proper protocols to accurately and correctly have their name changed with the governing agencies...
If you feel that is whinny, as you stated, then maybe the issue is with you not with me....even providing a real life example of me I was called snobby, but yea go ahead and ignore all of those points while you contest a point that is not even about our discussion....
@ABooksNightmare You have to resort to calling me dumb, you can do better than this. The remark you made about women shows your true character it is tacky, classless and partisan. I am a male but I still am more concerned about the impacts this stupid idea has and the intention this scam positions. It is a voter suppression and exhaustion ploy and unless every single person has to go through the process even WHITE MEN then it is not reasonable, respectful or of social benefit. Yeah you got me I am dumb...cool retort bro.
Yup, dumb just like I am snobby and a chauvinist...look at what you say first not the reaction...or are you so stubborn you will ignore you started the name calling first
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@ABooksNightmare You have to resort to calling me dumb, you can do better than this. The remark you made about women shows your true character it is tacky, classless and partisan. I am a male but I still am more concerned about the impacts this stupid idea has and the intention this scam positions. It is a voter suppression and exhaustion ploy and unless every single person has to go through the process even WHITE MEN then it is not reasonable, respectful or of social benefit. Yeah you got me I am dumb...cool retort bro.
Yup, dumb just like I am snobby and a chauvinist...look at what you say first not the reaction...or are you so stubborn you will ignore you started the name calling first
Your comments as a male towards women were offensive and being a chauv....who makes the name change as some choice and thus they must go through crap that men do not, YOU said that not me. I keep saying anything that is discriminatory and suppressive is a BAD THING and this does both of those things. Your remarks about being an employer were pretty low class as well it is like you have no understanding or sympathy for others and especially others who might not be as able and assertive as you are. I do not put MY metrics on others in society and in fact I do the opposite, I think most people are not as fortunate as I am and THOSE PEOPLE need more consideration and understanding than you are showing here on this topic.
When you talk in a condescending way to another group that is different than you what is that called exactly? The fact we are CHANGING an existing and functioning procedure is very serious and this does not meet the value add to society given the complications and lack of infrastructure and education available. Trump and the TNC is expecting that those who are unprepared will be the other side and as your friend mentioned above that every advantage you can gain by whatever means equals more power and control in the legislative process.
This is a scam, a burden and a partisan attack on the voting citizen, especially those stupid women who decide to get their name changed...how dare they!
@ABooksNightmare
Your comments as a male towards women were offensive and being a chauv....who makes the name change as some choice and thus they must go through crap that men do not, YOU said that not me. I keep saying anything that is discriminatory and suppressive is a BAD THING and this does both of those things. Your remarks about being an employer were pretty low class as well it is like you have no understanding or sympathy for others and especially others who might not be as able and assertive as you are. I do not put MY metrics on others in society and in fact I do the opposite, I think most people are not as fortunate as I am and THOSE PEOPLE need more consideration and understanding than you are showing here on this topic.
When you talk in a condescending way to another group that is different than you what is that called exactly? The fact we are CHANGING an existing and functioning procedure is very serious and this does not meet the value add to society given the complications and lack of infrastructure and education available. Trump and the TNC is expecting that those who are unprepared will be the other side and as your friend mentioned above that every advantage you can gain by whatever means equals more power and control in the legislative process.
This is a scam, a burden and a partisan attack on the voting citizen, especially those stupid women who decide to get their name changed...how dare they!
“I don’t think we should make any deal with the Crazy, Country Destroying, Radical Left Democrats unless, and until, they Vote with Republicans to pass ‘THE SAVE AMERICA ACT, It is far more important than anything else we are doing in the Senate, and that includes giving these same terrible people, the Dems (who are to blame for this mess!), a Five Billion Dollar cut in ICE funding, a deal which, even when disguised as something else, is unacceptable to me and the American people – UNLESS it includes their approval of Voter I.D., (with picture!), Citizenship to Vote, No Mail-In Voting (with exceptions), All Paper Ballots, No Men In Women’s Sports, and No Transgender MUTILIZATION [sic] of our precious children"
Yeah the TNC cares about the TSA alright...he is such an elitist clown but most of you TNC fans know that with his daily expression of idiocy and yet you still back the guy.
For context-
“I don’t think we should make any deal with the Crazy, Country Destroying, Radical Left Democrats unless, and until, they Vote with Republicans to pass ‘THE SAVE AMERICA ACT, It is far more important than anything else we are doing in the Senate, and that includes giving these same terrible people, the Dems (who are to blame for this mess!), a Five Billion Dollar cut in ICE funding, a deal which, even when disguised as something else, is unacceptable to me and the American people – UNLESS it includes their approval of Voter I.D., (with picture!), Citizenship to Vote, No Mail-In Voting (with exceptions), All Paper Ballots, No Men In Women’s Sports, and No Transgender MUTILIZATION [sic] of our precious children"
Yeah the TNC cares about the TSA alright...he is such an elitist clown but most of you TNC fans know that with his daily expression of idiocy and yet you still back the guy.
Trying to make a point genius, but apparently you are unable to ascertain that. This is not a change, this has always been required. You are making it something it is not because you don't like it, but you are minimizing any women's actions for not doing what was already required of them. This has nothing to do with being a man or a woman, this is about stating that the class you are presenting is not and has not followed what has always been legally required. You can't deflect and act like I am something for stating fact.
You don't accept examples.
You don't accept what is required.
You don't accept what SSA says is required.
You only accept that non law abiding people will not be able to fix their SSA issue, which is ALREADY in place as a requirement.
You ignore any FACTS that are being presented and instead accuse someone of being inconsiderate towards woman when that couldn't be further from the truth. You are completely ignoring that path by which can fix this and you are ignoring that this is an already established requirement for anyone, not just women, to change their name. You are just a hater and only wish to contest anything and everything that is presented to you even when it is a legal matter. And who said anything about stupid women, I said it is a choice, which it is. You argument is tainted as you and your liberal buddies have no basis that this is actually even an issue, you just want it to be so it can create contention. Every single US citizen has to follow the law and requirements to maintain your citizenship....why does gender matter? It doesn't, but you want it to be so bad because this allows you to infinitely argue the fact that the US needs to change and knowing who you are is vital in that process. You are so hard pressed about laws and following them, but give a pass to women who MAY have failed to do what was required of them if they CHOSE to change their name. No one forced any woman EVER to change their name, just as no one forced me to change mine, but when I wanted to do so I fulfilled my legal obligation in doing so and notified all proper governing agencies. How is this concept any difference for the women you are advocating for and claiming I am not? I went through the exact same process they would have to but let's ignore that and say i am this and that...what a joke....
Life's about choices, and if you get caught then it is what it is...good news, everyone has a chance to fix it and get it right so you can vote in your precious elections....continue with your Master Debating encore because your point is weak when it ignores very basic requirements, as I have listed multiple times, from every US citizen not just women....
You're just a hater and an angry man and maybe a rebel fighting for the dark side...gimmie a break
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Trying to make a point genius, but apparently you are unable to ascertain that. This is not a change, this has always been required. You are making it something it is not because you don't like it, but you are minimizing any women's actions for not doing what was already required of them. This has nothing to do with being a man or a woman, this is about stating that the class you are presenting is not and has not followed what has always been legally required. You can't deflect and act like I am something for stating fact.
You don't accept examples.
You don't accept what is required.
You don't accept what SSA says is required.
You only accept that non law abiding people will not be able to fix their SSA issue, which is ALREADY in place as a requirement.
You ignore any FACTS that are being presented and instead accuse someone of being inconsiderate towards woman when that couldn't be further from the truth. You are completely ignoring that path by which can fix this and you are ignoring that this is an already established requirement for anyone, not just women, to change their name. You are just a hater and only wish to contest anything and everything that is presented to you even when it is a legal matter. And who said anything about stupid women, I said it is a choice, which it is. You argument is tainted as you and your liberal buddies have no basis that this is actually even an issue, you just want it to be so it can create contention. Every single US citizen has to follow the law and requirements to maintain your citizenship....why does gender matter? It doesn't, but you want it to be so bad because this allows you to infinitely argue the fact that the US needs to change and knowing who you are is vital in that process. You are so hard pressed about laws and following them, but give a pass to women who MAY have failed to do what was required of them if they CHOSE to change their name. No one forced any woman EVER to change their name, just as no one forced me to change mine, but when I wanted to do so I fulfilled my legal obligation in doing so and notified all proper governing agencies. How is this concept any difference for the women you are advocating for and claiming I am not? I went through the exact same process they would have to but let's ignore that and say i am this and that...what a joke....
Life's about choices, and if you get caught then it is what it is...good news, everyone has a chance to fix it and get it right so you can vote in your precious elections....continue with your Master Debating encore because your point is weak when it ignores very basic requirements, as I have listed multiple times, from every US citizen not just women....
You're just a hater and an angry man and maybe a rebel fighting for the dark side...gimmie a break
You realize that a female who properly notified the SS department of a name change STILL has to hunt down the required information for this SAVE scam right? If the original birth cert does not match the voter info then they have to first understand that this IS the case and second they have to get additional documentation to prove it. My wife did notify the SS of her name change but did NOT change her ORIGINAL birth cert and there are an estimated 65 MILLION women who fit this same scenario. Notice I did not say MALE and I did not say WHITE and I did not say TRUMP, I said WOMEN. That is discrimination and an unreasonable ask without a TEN YEAR ramp and a mountain pile of education AND a simple uncomplicated way to remedy this male pref change.
I support halting this because as I quoted Trumpy above he is all about this and smashing it though and that means there will not be proper time and education to ensure that the 65 MILLION women who fit this descript can properly, fairly and reasonably get the change required by TRUMP...
Notice I did not call you dumb or insult you, no need as my facts and data and the truth of this speaks for itself.
@ABooksNightmare
You realize that a female who properly notified the SS department of a name change STILL has to hunt down the required information for this SAVE scam right? If the original birth cert does not match the voter info then they have to first understand that this IS the case and second they have to get additional documentation to prove it. My wife did notify the SS of her name change but did NOT change her ORIGINAL birth cert and there are an estimated 65 MILLION women who fit this same scenario. Notice I did not say MALE and I did not say WHITE and I did not say TRUMP, I said WOMEN. That is discrimination and an unreasonable ask without a TEN YEAR ramp and a mountain pile of education AND a simple uncomplicated way to remedy this male pref change.
I support halting this because as I quoted Trumpy above he is all about this and smashing it though and that means there will not be proper time and education to ensure that the 65 MILLION women who fit this descript can properly, fairly and reasonably get the change required by TRUMP...
Notice I did not call you dumb or insult you, no need as my facts and data and the truth of this speaks for itself.
Polls show most Americans say voting is a right for every adult US citizen that should not be restricted. However Trump wants voting to be a privilege so that billionaires can buy influence, politicians pick their voters and everyone pay to vote. The impact of SAVE act is the same as a poll tax. Creating bureaucratic barriers so that eligible voters must pay for what they need in order to vote. Documents, transportation and time cost money. However US constitution prohibits poll taxes. SAVE act blocking millions of US citizens from voting solves no real problem and only undermines democracy.
Polls show most Americans say voting is a right for every adult US citizen that should not be restricted. However Trump wants voting to be a privilege so that billionaires can buy influence, politicians pick their voters and everyone pay to vote. The impact of SAVE act is the same as a poll tax. Creating bureaucratic barriers so that eligible voters must pay for what they need in order to vote. Documents, transportation and time cost money. However US constitution prohibits poll taxes. SAVE act blocking millions of US citizens from voting solves no real problem and only undermines democracy.
Polls show most Americans say voting is a right for every adult US citizen that should not be restricted. However Trump wants voting to be a privilege so that billionaires can buy influence, politicians pick their voters and everyone pay to vote. The impact of SAVE act is the same as a poll tax. Creating bureaucratic barriers so that eligible voters must pay for what they need in order to vote. Documents, transportation and time cost money. However US constitution prohibits poll taxes. SAVE act blocking millions of US citizens from voting solves no real problem and only undermines democracy.
@thirdperson
100% spot on, thirdperson!
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Polls show most Americans say voting is a right for every adult US citizen that should not be restricted. However Trump wants voting to be a privilege so that billionaires can buy influence, politicians pick their voters and everyone pay to vote. The impact of SAVE act is the same as a poll tax. Creating bureaucratic barriers so that eligible voters must pay for what they need in order to vote. Documents, transportation and time cost money. However US constitution prohibits poll taxes. SAVE act blocking millions of US citizens from voting solves no real problem and only undermines democracy.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]@ABooksNightmare I usually read most of your posts but I gotta tell ya....you're starting to sound pretty damn whiny. Anyway, here are some facts. Democrats have introduced bills to end the TSA shutdown on: March 5th March 11th March 15th March 18th March 19th (2x) March 21st March 23rd REPUBLICANS BLOCKED TSA FUNDING EVERY SINGLE TIME![/Quote]
What a selfish response, but I don't expect anything better from you. So, what about the poor folks at the U.S. Coast Guard, the IRS, National Park Service, people that work at the Small Business Administration.. They are all affected, too. Just what kind of person are you ?
Oh, yeah that selfish guy that wants ICE banned, and our TSA opened, while everyone else gets shit on. What a guy !
[Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]@ABooksNightmare I usually read most of your posts but I gotta tell ya....you're starting to sound pretty damn whiny. Anyway, here are some facts. Democrats have introduced bills to end the TSA shutdown on: March 5th March 11th March 15th March 18th March 19th (2x) March 21st March 23rd REPUBLICANS BLOCKED TSA FUNDING EVERY SINGLE TIME![/Quote]
What a selfish response, but I don't expect anything better from you. So, what about the poor folks at the U.S. Coast Guard, the IRS, National Park Service, people that work at the Small Business Administration.. They are all affected, too. Just what kind of person are you ?
Oh, yeah that selfish guy that wants ICE banned, and our TSA opened, while everyone else gets shit on. What a guy !
Polls show most Americans say voting is a right for every adult US citizen that should not be restricted. However Trump wants voting to be a privilege so that billionaires can buy influence, politicians pick their voters and everyone pay to vote. The impact of SAVE act is the same as a poll tax. Creating bureaucratic barriers so that eligible voters must pay for what they need in order to vote. Documents, transportation and time cost money. However US constitution prohibits poll taxes. SAVE act blocking millions of US citizens from voting solves no real problem and only undermines democracy.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Polls show most Americans say voting is a right for every adult US citizen that should not be restricted. However Trump wants voting to be a privilege so that billionaires can buy influence, politicians pick their voters and everyone pay to vote. The impact of SAVE act is the same as a poll tax. Creating bureaucratic barriers so that eligible voters must pay for what they need in order to vote. Documents, transportation and time cost money. However US constitution prohibits poll taxes. SAVE act blocking millions of US citizens from voting solves no real problem and only undermines democracy.
Whaa...whaaa....I don't want to do the proper things as a US citizen, so I'll do what I want and complain about it...... 
there he is the Master Debater....ignoring most, if not all, of what I said....I changed my name but let's ignore that I did that and had to provide documents that were old and I had zero problem...this is just an example that you continue to shut down in every reply you make...are you that incompetent that you can't grasp that I had to go through the same process, except for a marriage certificate, to legally change my name....it's like you are a box with no lid.....the point I was making was that I did what these women were supposed to do and I didn't have to change my last name, just as there women didn't, but if you do the law requires to file proper records with the governing agencies...
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