Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: For those who may not remember, Kent was the MAGA favorite that Trump drafted to run for Congress against Jaime Herrera-Beutler after she voted to impeach him. He beat her in the primary, which was for a safe red seat in rural Washington… and then lost to a Democrat. Trump then appointed him to run the NCTC last year. And of course, now Trump never liked him and is glad he’s gone…..He hardly knew him !
@joe pockets Great post, Joe!
...we should have used our existing INTEL and work with our allies and NATO to come up with a plan. Why bomb an oil field if this is about nukes? And why do you continue to relentlessly shade Israel and Trump acting as if the words are right in front of your face and you ignore them? If this is about nukes then have Israel sign the treaty and stay the crap OUT of this, Iran and nukes is NOT THEIR CONCERN.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: For those who may not remember, Kent was the MAGA favorite that Trump drafted to run for Congress against Jaime Herrera-Beutler after she voted to impeach him. He beat her in the primary, which was for a safe red seat in rural Washington… and then lost to a Democrat. Trump then appointed him to run the NCTC last year. And of course, now Trump never liked him and is glad he’s gone…..He hardly knew him !
@joe pockets Great post, Joe!
...we should have used our existing INTEL and work with our allies and NATO to come up with a plan. Why bomb an oil field if this is about nukes? And why do you continue to relentlessly shade Israel and Trump acting as if the words are right in front of your face and you ignore them? If this is about nukes then have Israel sign the treaty and stay the crap OUT of this, Iran and nukes is NOT THEIR CONCERN.
Israel is a taker and a user of the US, they gain power from the lobby that controls our elected officials. What countries do not use the US? Every country in NATO uses the US for many different facets...money, military, intelligence and did I say money....this isn't anything tht can be debated....those other countries use us all the time and look to us for what we bring... We put them there and we back them completely and yet they will not sign a treaty or work at all towards peace. They created this mess and we are taking the brunt of it for backing them. I won't disagree about working towards peace, but that entire region has really never seen peace to be honest....can there be? Maybe...Should there be? Definitely yes in this day and age....do you think it is possible that if Iran's regime was eliminated, and its proxys in the region, that there could then be discussions about signing something geared towards peace not just for Israel but for the entire region....wouldn't that be something? The hatred you keep chirping about is not about Israel it is about the current zion approach that Netty is running with and this causes loss of life and BILLIONS we do not have all so they can neuter their enemies and gain control. That is not what I call an reciprocal ally. Everything is about approach..similar to how people say it's not what he said, but how he said it...are you denying that a diplomatic approach was not done prior to the action taken? Did our current President try and discuss with the Iranian regime that they need to not produce enrichment? Did the Iranian regime kill 35,000 or so innocent defenseless protestors with machine guns all because they wanted freedom? I think each of these questions were all done, yet the regime played and mocked the US and killed innocent people in it's own country...you simply cannot ignore these facts...you can, however, argue that they may or may not have been close to producing a nuclear weapon...that's is 100% debatable...and if you want to talk about money, were you also against what we did for Ukraine?
You really should stop trying to defend Trump because you come across like a moron that doesn’t know anything - you do know that you can print as much money as you want correct ? - so the world is taking advantage of you - you say? Is that how you view the world that has accepted your printed money has no upper limit and happily trade you goods for those and conduct trades between each other in that same currency !
And NATO takes advantage of you? Really - 1) you are the only country ever to have asked NATO for help - 2) most money in NATO are spent buying military equipment produced by you - and countries buy the products you ask them to ! For real mate quit your whining - apart from coming from a shithole - you have nothing to complain about
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
Israel is a taker and a user of the US, they gain power from the lobby that controls our elected officials. What countries do not use the US? Every country in NATO uses the US for many different facets...money, military, intelligence and did I say money....this isn't anything tht can be debated....those other countries use us all the time and look to us for what we bring... We put them there and we back them completely and yet they will not sign a treaty or work at all towards peace. They created this mess and we are taking the brunt of it for backing them. I won't disagree about working towards peace, but that entire region has really never seen peace to be honest....can there be? Maybe...Should there be? Definitely yes in this day and age....do you think it is possible that if Iran's regime was eliminated, and its proxys in the region, that there could then be discussions about signing something geared towards peace not just for Israel but for the entire region....wouldn't that be something? The hatred you keep chirping about is not about Israel it is about the current zion approach that Netty is running with and this causes loss of life and BILLIONS we do not have all so they can neuter their enemies and gain control. That is not what I call an reciprocal ally. Everything is about approach..similar to how people say it's not what he said, but how he said it...are you denying that a diplomatic approach was not done prior to the action taken? Did our current President try and discuss with the Iranian regime that they need to not produce enrichment? Did the Iranian regime kill 35,000 or so innocent defenseless protestors with machine guns all because they wanted freedom? I think each of these questions were all done, yet the regime played and mocked the US and killed innocent people in it's own country...you simply cannot ignore these facts...you can, however, argue that they may or may not have been close to producing a nuclear weapon...that's is 100% debatable...and if you want to talk about money, were you also against what we did for Ukraine?
You really should stop trying to defend Trump because you come across like a moron that doesn’t know anything - you do know that you can print as much money as you want correct ? - so the world is taking advantage of you - you say? Is that how you view the world that has accepted your printed money has no upper limit and happily trade you goods for those and conduct trades between each other in that same currency !
And NATO takes advantage of you? Really - 1) you are the only country ever to have asked NATO for help - 2) most money in NATO are spent buying military equipment produced by you - and countries buy the products you ask them to ! For real mate quit your whining - apart from coming from a shithole - you have nothing to complain about
See that's where you look weak and feeble when you try to start out by stating that I am defending Trump or I am Trump supporter....I have continually stated I give two fucks about the bloke or any President actually, but I do weigh facts....I am this way because I am not a sheep....I don't blindly follow anyone or anything and that is because I have a mind of my own and no one controls me....however, you and others cannot have or make a comment about someone being for or against a particular party just because they do not hate or love the same things as you...that makes you weak because in your mind you feel like that you are forced to belittle someone in order to emphasize a point that you are about to make, but not realizing that this actually makes you look like a weak speaker.....yet, a lot of you continually do it in here which is quite commical...funny thing is, not one of you can find any post or comments made that say I actually support of defend Trump as a person or individual....agreeing with a policy is not supporting Trump or defending him as I would say the same if the President was right or left or independent...but because most of you make weak arguments in thinking you are cool with insulting those that you think are on the other side, especially Trump, the laugh is really on you....your sole basis is to categorize someone even though they have repeatedly told you to the contrary...that makes you look weak because the truth is you don't know what to do with me because I am neither for the right or for the left and most of you are so programmed to believe that you have to be right or left in this world....well, that is because you are weak if you follow any party line....welcome to weakness....
As for your comment about NATO....it solely and heavily relies on the US for a number of key factors and it's odd that you would even think to the contrary as these are actual facts not opinion...in fact, the US is the foundation of NATO when it comes to nuclear deterrence...In NATO, the US provides technology that is far more advanced than the rest of the world for NATO and our logistical support and defense spending is far superior when it comes to NATO....the US is 100% the dominant figure inside NATO...
The US has the greatest amount of defense expenses for NATO....In this century, it is estimated that over 60% of weapons by European NATO countries has come from the US....The US is the number one deterrent in nuclear threats around the globe...this has been evident for some time...this is why the US intervenes when it feels there is a nuclear threat from any nation who is not in alignment with the US and the world...
Militarily wise, the US provides command stations, logistics, intelligence throughout the world and NATO would fail miserably at this should those countries choose to act independently without the US....why do you think there are US generals typically stationed at allied command sites throughout the world...
Say what you want about the US and its issues, but experts, not me, have stated that without US involvement in NATO that those members would be neutralized which is why they are trying to level up and become more self-reliant....
Face it, the US is the bulk of NATO and that has zero to do with supporting or liking Trump....it's just facts and it has been this way for some time...the US is the far superior nation in NATO and the facts present itself...you can certainly form an opinion otherwise, but since you can't even figure out that I am not a defender of Trump or supporter of him I highly doubt you could ascertain what I am even trying to explain and you would be going against most experts and facts that say to the contrary.......good luck in weak feeble land....maybe you can win at the game of Stratego to declare an advantage....
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See that's where you look weak and feeble when you try to start out by stating that I am defending Trump or I am Trump supporter....I have continually stated I give two fucks about the bloke or any President actually, but I do weigh facts....I am this way because I am not a sheep....I don't blindly follow anyone or anything and that is because I have a mind of my own and no one controls me....however, you and others cannot have or make a comment about someone being for or against a particular party just because they do not hate or love the same things as you...that makes you weak because in your mind you feel like that you are forced to belittle someone in order to emphasize a point that you are about to make, but not realizing that this actually makes you look like a weak speaker.....yet, a lot of you continually do it in here which is quite commical...funny thing is, not one of you can find any post or comments made that say I actually support of defend Trump as a person or individual....agreeing with a policy is not supporting Trump or defending him as I would say the same if the President was right or left or independent...but because most of you make weak arguments in thinking you are cool with insulting those that you think are on the other side, especially Trump, the laugh is really on you....your sole basis is to categorize someone even though they have repeatedly told you to the contrary...that makes you look weak because the truth is you don't know what to do with me because I am neither for the right or for the left and most of you are so programmed to believe that you have to be right or left in this world....well, that is because you are weak if you follow any party line....welcome to weakness....
As for your comment about NATO....it solely and heavily relies on the US for a number of key factors and it's odd that you would even think to the contrary as these are actual facts not opinion...in fact, the US is the foundation of NATO when it comes to nuclear deterrence...In NATO, the US provides technology that is far more advanced than the rest of the world for NATO and our logistical support and defense spending is far superior when it comes to NATO....the US is 100% the dominant figure inside NATO...
The US has the greatest amount of defense expenses for NATO....In this century, it is estimated that over 60% of weapons by European NATO countries has come from the US....The US is the number one deterrent in nuclear threats around the globe...this has been evident for some time...this is why the US intervenes when it feels there is a nuclear threat from any nation who is not in alignment with the US and the world...
Militarily wise, the US provides command stations, logistics, intelligence throughout the world and NATO would fail miserably at this should those countries choose to act independently without the US....why do you think there are US generals typically stationed at allied command sites throughout the world...
Say what you want about the US and its issues, but experts, not me, have stated that without US involvement in NATO that those members would be neutralized which is why they are trying to level up and become more self-reliant....
Face it, the US is the bulk of NATO and that has zero to do with supporting or liking Trump....it's just facts and it has been this way for some time...the US is the far superior nation in NATO and the facts present itself...you can certainly form an opinion otherwise, but since you can't even figure out that I am not a defender of Trump or supporter of him I highly doubt you could ascertain what I am even trying to explain and you would be going against most experts and facts that say to the contrary.......good luck in weak feeble land....maybe you can win at the game of Stratego to declare an advantage....
NATO is designed to strengthen you (it was your design) - wtf - you are strong because of NATO - it is designed to pour money into your weapon industry - and keep europe from spending on their own military industry - that was the whole idea of it becoming a thing in the first place - maybe not publicly I don’t know - but behind the curtains 100% every geopolitical decision that has happened afterwards in this “relationship” has made it clear that you guys want us without a strong military in Europe
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NATO is designed to strengthen you (it was your design) - wtf - you are strong because of NATO - it is designed to pour money into your weapon industry - and keep europe from spending on their own military industry - that was the whole idea of it becoming a thing in the first place - maybe not publicly I don’t know - but behind the curtains 100% every geopolitical decision that has happened afterwards in this “relationship” has made it clear that you guys want us without a strong military in Europe
I take it as you defending Trump when you compare the Iranian war and the Ukrainian war - because Israel and Ukraines part in those altercations is nothing alike - and yes most “normal” people would support in one of the wars and not the other - and that isn’t based on perspectives - but only on motives
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I take it as you defending Trump when you compare the Iranian war and the Ukrainian war - because Israel and Ukraines part in those altercations is nothing alike - and yes most “normal” people would support in one of the wars and not the other - and that isn’t based on perspectives - but only on motives
The problem is that NATO is intended to be a collection of allies that work together in situations LIKE THIS where the US allegedly has allies that are in the region outside of Israel who collaborate and agree on an objective a path an approach and then with all members on board the process goes forward. This is why and how NATO is to function. Trump trashes on everyone but in this case our PAST allies via tariffs and insults and degrading put downs because unless you do what HE wants then you will be verbally assaulted and demeaned, that is how he works.
You listing how NATO is supposed to work does not mean much because an organization that does not respect ALL MEMBERS cannot function properly and Trump respects nobody and especially if you do not bow to his will and do what he wants.
In this case Trump never engaged with the members and then he expects those members to STILL back him and this horrid war he and Israel started. Nobody outside TNC fans or apologists as you are is falling for his lying fraudulent nonsense and in fact I am surprised anyone outside those very tight regional countries at high risk to his stupid game would even reply or interact. I can see why SA and others are quasi engaging because they have the most at risk it is their neighbors Trump and Netty are bombing and Iran is reacting and lashing out but the US is not at risk yet here we are fronting and forwarding this abomination when the clown promised the opposite.
Trump is the classic fade cooler clown, whatever he says the opposite will likely result.
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The problem is that NATO is intended to be a collection of allies that work together in situations LIKE THIS where the US allegedly has allies that are in the region outside of Israel who collaborate and agree on an objective a path an approach and then with all members on board the process goes forward. This is why and how NATO is to function. Trump trashes on everyone but in this case our PAST allies via tariffs and insults and degrading put downs because unless you do what HE wants then you will be verbally assaulted and demeaned, that is how he works.
You listing how NATO is supposed to work does not mean much because an organization that does not respect ALL MEMBERS cannot function properly and Trump respects nobody and especially if you do not bow to his will and do what he wants.
In this case Trump never engaged with the members and then he expects those members to STILL back him and this horrid war he and Israel started. Nobody outside TNC fans or apologists as you are is falling for his lying fraudulent nonsense and in fact I am surprised anyone outside those very tight regional countries at high risk to his stupid game would even reply or interact. I can see why SA and others are quasi engaging because they have the most at risk it is their neighbors Trump and Netty are bombing and Iran is reacting and lashing out but the US is not at risk yet here we are fronting and forwarding this abomination when the clown promised the opposite.
Trump is the classic fade cooler clown, whatever he says the opposite will likely result.
US Iran war LIVE updates: Donald Trump warned that Iran’s key South Pars gas field could be destroyed if there are any further attacks targeting Qatar’s main gas facility. The warning came as Qatar said Iranian missile strikes had caused extensive damage to additional LNG sites in Qatar.
hinu times source co conclusion energy from the Persian Gulf is now not available pumps out of order tankers in need of repair and oil and gas fields vabirized, China is discussing pipeline in siberia and is is developing in warp speed resources in Venezuela....
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US Iran war LIVE updates: Donald Trump warned that Iran’s key South Pars gas field could be destroyed if there are any further attacks targeting Qatar’s main gas facility. The warning came as Qatar said Iranian missile strikes had caused extensive damage to additional LNG sites in Qatar.
hinu times source co conclusion energy from the Persian Gulf is now not available pumps out of order tankers in need of repair and oil and gas fields vabirized, China is discussing pipeline in siberia and is is developing in warp speed resources in Venezuela....
See that's where you look weak and feeble when you try to start out by stating that I am defending Trump or I am Trump supporter....I have continually stated I give two fucks about the bloke or any President actually, but I do weigh facts....I am this way because I am not a sheep....I don't blindly follow anyone or anything and that is because I have a mind of my own and no one controls me....however, you and others cannot have or make a comment about someone being for or against a particular party just because they do not hate or love the same things as you...that makes you weak because in your mind you feel like that you are forced to belittle someone in order to emphasize a point that you are about to make, but not realizing that this actually makes you look like a weak speaker.....yet, a lot of you continually do it in here which is quite commical...funny thing is, not one of you can find any post or comments made that say I actually support of defend Trump as a person or individual....agreeing with a policy is not supporting Trump or defending him as I would say the same if the President was right or left or independent...but because most of you make weak arguments in thinking you are cool with insulting those that you think are on the other side, especially Trump, the laugh is really on you....your sole basis is to categorize someone even though they have repeatedly told you to the contrary...that makes you look weak because the truth is you don't know what to do with me because I am neither for the right or for the left and most of you are so programmed to believe that you have to be right or left in this world....well, that is because you are weak if you follow any party line....welcome to weakness.... As for your comment about NATO....it solely and heavily relies on the US for a number of key factors and it's odd that you would even think to the contrary as these are actual facts not opinion...in fact, the US is the foundation of NATO when it comes to nuclear deterrence...In NATO, the US provides technology that is far more advanced than the rest of the world for NATO and our logistical support and defense spending is far superior when it comes to NATO....the US is 100% the dominant figure inside NATO... The US has the greatest amount of defense expenses for NATO....In this century, it is estimated that over 60% of weapons by European NATO countries has come from the US....The US is the number one deterrent in nuclear threats around the globe...this has been evident for some time...this is why the US intervenes when it feels there is a nuclear threat from any nation who is not in alignment with the US and the world... Militarily wise, the US provides command stations, logistics, intelligence throughout the world and NATO would fail miserably at this should those countries choose to act independently without the US....why do you think there are US generals typically stationed at allied command sites throughout the world... Say what you want about the US and its issues, but experts, not me, have stated that without US involvement in NATO that those members would be neutralized which is why they are trying to level up and become more self-reliant.... Face it, the US is the bulk of NATO and that has zero to do with supporting or liking Trump....it's just facts and it has been this way for some time...the US is the far superior nation in NATO and the facts present itself...you can certainly form an opinion otherwise, but since you can't even figure out that I am not a defender of Trump or supporter of him I highly doubt you could ascertain what I am even trying to explain and you would be going against most experts and facts that say to the contrary.......good luck in weak feeble land....maybe you can win at the game of Stratego to declare an advantage....
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
See that's where you look weak and feeble when you try to start out by stating that I am defending Trump or I am Trump supporter....I have continually stated I give two fucks about the bloke or any President actually, but I do weigh facts....I am this way because I am not a sheep....I don't blindly follow anyone or anything and that is because I have a mind of my own and no one controls me....however, you and others cannot have or make a comment about someone being for or against a particular party just because they do not hate or love the same things as you...that makes you weak because in your mind you feel like that you are forced to belittle someone in order to emphasize a point that you are about to make, but not realizing that this actually makes you look like a weak speaker.....yet, a lot of you continually do it in here which is quite commical...funny thing is, not one of you can find any post or comments made that say I actually support of defend Trump as a person or individual....agreeing with a policy is not supporting Trump or defending him as I would say the same if the President was right or left or independent...but because most of you make weak arguments in thinking you are cool with insulting those that you think are on the other side, especially Trump, the laugh is really on you....your sole basis is to categorize someone even though they have repeatedly told you to the contrary...that makes you look weak because the truth is you don't know what to do with me because I am neither for the right or for the left and most of you are so programmed to believe that you have to be right or left in this world....well, that is because you are weak if you follow any party line....welcome to weakness.... As for your comment about NATO....it solely and heavily relies on the US for a number of key factors and it's odd that you would even think to the contrary as these are actual facts not opinion...in fact, the US is the foundation of NATO when it comes to nuclear deterrence...In NATO, the US provides technology that is far more advanced than the rest of the world for NATO and our logistical support and defense spending is far superior when it comes to NATO....the US is 100% the dominant figure inside NATO... The US has the greatest amount of defense expenses for NATO....In this century, it is estimated that over 60% of weapons by European NATO countries has come from the US....The US is the number one deterrent in nuclear threats around the globe...this has been evident for some time...this is why the US intervenes when it feels there is a nuclear threat from any nation who is not in alignment with the US and the world... Militarily wise, the US provides command stations, logistics, intelligence throughout the world and NATO would fail miserably at this should those countries choose to act independently without the US....why do you think there are US generals typically stationed at allied command sites throughout the world... Say what you want about the US and its issues, but experts, not me, have stated that without US involvement in NATO that those members would be neutralized which is why they are trying to level up and become more self-reliant.... Face it, the US is the bulk of NATO and that has zero to do with supporting or liking Trump....it's just facts and it has been this way for some time...the US is the far superior nation in NATO and the facts present itself...you can certainly form an opinion otherwise, but since you can't even figure out that I am not a defender of Trump or supporter of him I highly doubt you could ascertain what I am even trying to explain and you would be going against most experts and facts that say to the contrary.......good luck in weak feeble land....maybe you can win at the game of Stratego to declare an advantage....
First, lies and bombs. Then a request for billions in funding. This is how forever wars begin. Supposedly short Iraq war ended up costing trillions over many years. If congress lawmakers fail to learn from history, they are doomed to repeat it.
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First, lies and bombs. Then a request for billions in funding. This is how forever wars begin. Supposedly short Iraq war ended up costing trillions over many years. If congress lawmakers fail to learn from history, they are doomed to repeat it.
$200 billion. With a b. Think of how many illegals could've been deported with those funds. Oh what could've been.....
Don’t worry, there’s still lots of defense contractor money to be laundered on behalf of the global elites, whether it’s for fake immigration projects or wars no one wants. Trump always finds a way.
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
$200 billion. With a b. Think of how many illegals could've been deported with those funds. Oh what could've been.....
Don’t worry, there’s still lots of defense contractor money to be laundered on behalf of the global elites, whether it’s for fake immigration projects or wars no one wants. Trump always finds a way.
Absurd to spend $200 billion more on Trump unpopular, illegal and unnecessary Iran war that makes the world less safe. In contrast, defense of Ukraine is justified by United nations, supported by many allies and a better investment in international security. Costing less over 4 years to weaken a more dangerous enemy.
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Absurd to spend $200 billion more on Trump unpopular, illegal and unnecessary Iran war that makes the world less safe. In contrast, defense of Ukraine is justified by United nations, supported by many allies and a better investment in international security. Costing less over 4 years to weaken a more dangerous enemy.
You just keep spitting the same thing over and over not caring that it is totally inaccurate....what exactly are you trying to prove with the repeated and inaccurate illegal war chant with this group?
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Illegal war
You just keep spitting the same thing over and over not caring that it is totally inaccurate....what exactly are you trying to prove with the repeated and inaccurate illegal war chant with this group?
Absurd to spend $200 billion more on Trump's unpopular, illegal and unnecessary Iran war that makes the world less safe. In contrast, defense of Ukraine is justified by United nations, supported by many allies and a better investment in international security. Costing less over 4 years to weaken a more dangerous enemy.
Already republicans are spending close to $1 BILLION per day (more by some estimates!) on this VERY UNPOPULAR war!
More reckless republican spending.....and now they want $200 BILLION more, while refusing to pay our nations TSA workers....
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Absurd to spend $200 billion more on Trump's unpopular, illegal and unnecessary Iran war that makes the world less safe. In contrast, defense of Ukraine is justified by United nations, supported by many allies and a better investment in international security. Costing less over 4 years to weaken a more dangerous enemy.
Already republicans are spending close to $1 BILLION per day (more by some estimates!) on this VERY UNPOPULAR war!
More reckless republican spending.....and now they want $200 BILLION more, while refusing to pay our nations TSA workers....
Illegal war You just keep spitting the same thing over and over not caring that it is totally inaccurate....what exactly are you trying to prove with the repeated and inaccurate illegal war chant with this group?
What do you call it, a LEGAL war, an excursion? Not sure how his message is inaccurate plus what is the point in playing semantics are you that bored you have to pester someone for calling this idiotic useless war as illegal?
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
Illegal war You just keep spitting the same thing over and over not caring that it is totally inaccurate....what exactly are you trying to prove with the repeated and inaccurate illegal war chant with this group?
What do you call it, a LEGAL war, an excursion? Not sure how his message is inaccurate plus what is the point in playing semantics are you that bored you have to pester someone for calling this idiotic useless war as illegal?
Are you so bored that you have to comment on a post that was not intended for you..
And all of you or any of you claiming this war is illegal is factually wrong....just because you say it is does not make it factually accurate...the truth is, the President has the power to enter a war without ANY Congress approval and this has been done over time....you have zero proof that this war or ANY war that was entered into by a President alone is illegal....you all just want to post your useless inaccurate information because you don't like the person who did it....This war is not illegal, just like the wars entered into by Obama in Libya, on ISIS and Yemen were not illegal.....Just like the wars in Somalia, Bosnia or Kosovo were not illegal....
And yet once again you find it necessary to come in and comment against me for no reason....and, your facts, just like OP are 100% inaccurate....In the US, Congress does not have to give the ok for any committal to military action by a President under the War Powers Act, so save your drama and conflict you are apparently trying to create....you are wrong if you agree with him and he is definitely wrong....Now, can you question whether the intentions of the War Powers Act exists, sure, but the decision was made just like it was for Clinton, Obama or Bush and so on.....
Lest you forget, I deal in facts and you and your cronies are 100% factually wrong on this topic...if your intention is to come in and make remarks that obviously inaccurate, then as you would say, why are you posting and what value are you adding to the conversation....
Let me guess, each of you supported Obama and Clinton when they exercised their war powers but disapproved when Bush and Trump do do......laughable!
Let put this in terms you and your side can understand......
THIS WAR IS NOT ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO LAWS IN THE US!!!!!!!!!!
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Are you so bored that you have to comment on a post that was not intended for you..
And all of you or any of you claiming this war is illegal is factually wrong....just because you say it is does not make it factually accurate...the truth is, the President has the power to enter a war without ANY Congress approval and this has been done over time....you have zero proof that this war or ANY war that was entered into by a President alone is illegal....you all just want to post your useless inaccurate information because you don't like the person who did it....This war is not illegal, just like the wars entered into by Obama in Libya, on ISIS and Yemen were not illegal.....Just like the wars in Somalia, Bosnia or Kosovo were not illegal....
And yet once again you find it necessary to come in and comment against me for no reason....and, your facts, just like OP are 100% inaccurate....In the US, Congress does not have to give the ok for any committal to military action by a President under the War Powers Act, so save your drama and conflict you are apparently trying to create....you are wrong if you agree with him and he is definitely wrong....Now, can you question whether the intentions of the War Powers Act exists, sure, but the decision was made just like it was for Clinton, Obama or Bush and so on.....
Lest you forget, I deal in facts and you and your cronies are 100% factually wrong on this topic...if your intention is to come in and make remarks that obviously inaccurate, then as you would say, why are you posting and what value are you adding to the conversation....
Let me guess, each of you supported Obama and Clinton when they exercised their war powers but disapproved when Bush and Trump do do......laughable!
Let put this in terms you and your side can understand......
THIS WAR IS NOT ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO LAWS IN THE US!!!!!!!!!!
Just curious too, are you actually stating (again) that this war as it has been called by this admin as a WAR is the same as those other events you mentioned? Libya, Somalia, Yemen Bosnia etc..
Those were WARS we started on our own with only an Israeli narrative in our pocket? Sorry but none of the items you listed were called a war nor did we start them with no provocation. If you want to use the sloppy lazy Trump style excuse of NUKES your only similar FALSE LIE example is Iraq and that DID get congressional approval even though like Iran it was a lie it was fabricated nonsense with no proof or validity.
If you are going to use your human rights muse I think you have Africa in front of the line followed by the Saudis North Korea and others which fit your narrative MUCH BETTER than this.
So sticking with those items as WAR and that we did this alone with no real valid reasoning?
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Just curious too, are you actually stating (again) that this war as it has been called by this admin as a WAR is the same as those other events you mentioned? Libya, Somalia, Yemen Bosnia etc..
Those were WARS we started on our own with only an Israeli narrative in our pocket? Sorry but none of the items you listed were called a war nor did we start them with no provocation. If you want to use the sloppy lazy Trump style excuse of NUKES your only similar FALSE LIE example is Iraq and that DID get congressional approval even though like Iran it was a lie it was fabricated nonsense with no proof or validity.
If you are going to use your human rights muse I think you have Africa in front of the line followed by the Saudis North Korea and others which fit your narrative MUCH BETTER than this.
So sticking with those items as WAR and that we did this alone with no real valid reasoning?
if anyone out there is wondering how a shithole country like Iran has so much ammunition , missiles , drones , how could a fucking country like that afford all these things ?
Let me tell you that your guy .., yeah you fk losing liberals , President fucking Barrack Corrupt Obama sent them 1.7 Billion Dollars on pallets , as i recall it didnt fit all in one flight ,"in the middle of the night".
..because he was too much of a box to do anything about Iran then. And then in-comes , who you voted for* , Dementia fucking Joe Biden , who sent them SIXTEEN fucking Billion Dollars.
So i dont want to hear a fucking word about this war , and President Trump is a war monger , because your Presidents were fucking Mama's boys , box scared little bitches , is that understood ?
They paid them to stall their nuclear program , period.
President Trump is a man , and he is blowing them the fuck up , and that is a fact , and that are the numbers.
And also Liberals , fk you with your steak and lobster and crab legs complaints , after your fk shitty Presidents spent that much money paying off Iran to avoid a war and only made it worse.
The Pastor of Disaster
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if anyone out there is wondering how a shithole country like Iran has so much ammunition , missiles , drones , how could a fucking country like that afford all these things ?
Let me tell you that your guy .., yeah you fk losing liberals , President fucking Barrack Corrupt Obama sent them 1.7 Billion Dollars on pallets , as i recall it didnt fit all in one flight ,"in the middle of the night".
..because he was too much of a box to do anything about Iran then. And then in-comes , who you voted for* , Dementia fucking Joe Biden , who sent them SIXTEEN fucking Billion Dollars.
So i dont want to hear a fucking word about this war , and President Trump is a war monger , because your Presidents were fucking Mama's boys , box scared little bitches , is that understood ?
They paid them to stall their nuclear program , period.
President Trump is a man , and he is blowing them the fuck up , and that is a fact , and that are the numbers.
And also Liberals , fk you with your steak and lobster and crab legs complaints , after your fk shitty Presidents spent that much money paying off Iran to avoid a war and only made it worse.
if anyone out there is wondering how a shithole country like Iran has so much ammunition , missiles , drones , how could a fucking country like that afford all these things ? Let me tell you that your guy .., yeah you fk losing liberals , President fucking Barrack Corrupt Obama sent them 1.7 Billion Dollars on pallets , as i recall it didnt fit all in one flight ,"in the middle of the night". ..because he was too much of a box to do anything about Iran then. And then in-comes , who you voted for* , Dementia fucking Joe Biden , who sent them SIXTEEN fucking Billion Dollars. So i dont want to hear a fucking word about this war , and President Trump is a war monger , because your Presidents were fucking Mama's boys , box scared little bitches , is that understood ? They paid them to stall their nuclear program , period. President Trump is a man , and he is blowing them the fuck up , and that is a fact , and that are the numbers. And also Liberals , fk you with your steak and lobster and crab legs complaints , after your fk shitty Presidents spent that much money paying off Iran to avoid a war and only made it worse.
Are you referring to the money you stole from them when you didn’t provide the weapons they had brought from you?
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:
if anyone out there is wondering how a shithole country like Iran has so much ammunition , missiles , drones , how could a fucking country like that afford all these things ? Let me tell you that your guy .., yeah you fk losing liberals , President fucking Barrack Corrupt Obama sent them 1.7 Billion Dollars on pallets , as i recall it didnt fit all in one flight ,"in the middle of the night". ..because he was too much of a box to do anything about Iran then. And then in-comes , who you voted for* , Dementia fucking Joe Biden , who sent them SIXTEEN fucking Billion Dollars. So i dont want to hear a fucking word about this war , and President Trump is a war monger , because your Presidents were fucking Mama's boys , box scared little bitches , is that understood ? They paid them to stall their nuclear program , period. President Trump is a man , and he is blowing them the fuck up , and that is a fact , and that are the numbers. And also Liberals , fk you with your steak and lobster and crab legs complaints , after your fk shitty Presidents spent that much money paying off Iran to avoid a war and only made it worse.
Are you referring to the money you stole from them when you didn’t provide the weapons they had brought from you?
The republicans dragged us into a war in the middle-east under the previous GOP president .....after 20 years and trump spending $300 MILLION PER DAY on that war every day of his first term, Democrat Joe Biden gets us the phuck outta there, saving us from that disasterous GOP spending
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The republicans dragged us into a war in the middle-east under the previous GOP president .....after 20 years and trump spending $300 MILLION PER DAY on that war every day of his first term, Democrat Joe Biden gets us the phuck outta there, saving us from that disasterous GOP spending
The Department of War has declared a war, and the Secretary of War and president remind us daily that this is a war. Under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress holds the sole power to declare war and authorize military funding. Has Congress declared war? No. Has Congress authorized military funding? No. Then it's an illegal war under the Constitution. Your issue is with the founders, bruh.
So the republicans dragged us into a war in the middle-east under the previous GOP president .....after 20 years and trump spending $300 MILLION PER DAY on that war every day of his first term, Democrat Joe Biden gets us the phuck outta there, saving us from that disasterous GOP spending; now - despite repeat *PROMISES* to the contrary - the racist/sex-offender in the Oval plunges the country into ANOTHER middle-east war - but this one costing $1 BILLION PER DAY ...and 13 American lives....so far...
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Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
The Department of War has declared a war, and the Secretary of War and president remind us daily that this is a war. Under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress holds the sole power to declare war and authorize military funding. Has Congress declared war? No. Has Congress authorized military funding? No. Then it's an illegal war under the Constitution. Your issue is with the founders, bruh.
So the republicans dragged us into a war in the middle-east under the previous GOP president .....after 20 years and trump spending $300 MILLION PER DAY on that war every day of his first term, Democrat Joe Biden gets us the phuck outta there, saving us from that disasterous GOP spending; now - despite repeat *PROMISES* to the contrary - the racist/sex-offender in the Oval plunges the country into ANOTHER middle-east war - but this one costing $1 BILLION PER DAY ...and 13 American lives....so far...
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