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    back to an endless Republicans war so 30 years in Iran over or under

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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 3:44 AM ET #301

    So let those lunatics be the one fighting in the unavoidable draft that is soon to come - this isn’t a fight for your shitty countries position in this world nor democracy or the free world - that fight is fought elsewhere as we speak

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    So let those lunatics be the one fighting in the unavoidable draft that is soon to come - this isn’t a fight for your shitty countries position in this world nor democracy or the free world - that fight is fought elsewhere as we speak

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 4:15 AM ET #302

    Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war.

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    Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 4:32 AM ET #303

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war.

    sleep2

    why dont you contact Barrack Hussein and Joe to send a 100 billion dollars in cash to the Mullahs to have peace again ? a "progressive " peace ... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war.

    sleep2

    why dont you contact Barrack Hussein and Joe to send a 100 billion dollars in cash to the Mullahs to have peace again ? a "progressive " peace ... 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 5:06 AM ET #304

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war. why dont you contact Barrack Hussein and Joe to send a 100 billion dollars in cash to the Mullahs to have peace again ? a "progressive " peace ...

     

    It was money you had stolen in the 70s - if you had returned the money right after you stole them it would only amount to a few 100 millions - of course you can’t keep stolen money infinite (what signal would that send to people that planned investing in you as a country) - you should more question why Trump allow them to sell oil while you have an active conflict with them - if you want to talk about incompetence 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war. why dont you contact Barrack Hussein and Joe to send a 100 billion dollars in cash to the Mullahs to have peace again ? a "progressive " peace ...

     

    It was money you had stolen in the 70s - if you had returned the money right after you stole them it would only amount to a few 100 millions - of course you can’t keep stolen money infinite (what signal would that send to people that planned investing in you as a country) - you should more question why Trump allow them to sell oil while you have an active conflict with them - if you want to talk about incompetence 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 11:18 AM ET #305

    TACO peace_5

    Time is a flat circle....
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    TACO peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 12:20 PM ET #306

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war. why dont you contact Barrack Hussein and Joe to send a 100 billion dollars in cash to the Mullahs to have peace again ? a "progressive " peace ...
    an_roll_laughlet's just forget about the money that was sent to them..I'm sure they used it for the good of the peoplelie...the fact that many here cannot see both sides and would rather only see the good in their side is astonishing....and yet almost all in here stick up for their side no matter what....

     

    Not sure what is worse...the constant lying politicians or those that feel the need to blindly support their side and debate why so and so is bad or why their politician is better than yours.....an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump threat to attack Iran power plants could violate international law on war crimes.  But Iran remains defiant.  Unpopular, illegal and unnecessary war is escalating out of control.  It could have been avoided if stupid Trump did not abandon Iran nuclear deal.  Obviously, diplomacy is preferable to war. why dont you contact Barrack Hussein and Joe to send a 100 billion dollars in cash to the Mullahs to have peace again ? a "progressive " peace ...
    an_roll_laughlet's just forget about the money that was sent to them..I'm sure they used it for the good of the peoplelie...the fact that many here cannot see both sides and would rather only see the good in their side is astonishing....and yet almost all in here stick up for their side no matter what....

     

    Not sure what is worse...the constant lying politicians or those that feel the need to blindly support their side and debate why so and so is bad or why their politician is better than yours.....an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 12:42 PM ET #307

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    It was money you had stolen in the 70s - if you had returned the money right after you stole them it would only amount to a few 100 millions - of course you can’t keep stolen money infinite (what signal would that send to people that planned investing in you as a country) - you should more question why Trump allow them to sell oil while you have an active conflict with them - if you want to talk about incompetence

    peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    It was money you had stolen in the 70s - if you had returned the money right after you stole them it would only amount to a few 100 millions - of course you can’t keep stolen money infinite (what signal would that send to people that planned investing in you as a country) - you should more question why Trump allow them to sell oil while you have an active conflict with them - if you want to talk about incompetence

    peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 1:14 PM ET #308

    It’s been a month and still looks forward to Donald & Wife under oath testimony! And Sweet Pam Bondi could take a seat when they are done! an_popcorn

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    It’s been a month and still looks forward to Donald & Wife under oath testimony! And Sweet Pam Bondi could take a seat when they are done! an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2026 - 2:06 PM ET #309

    @ABooksNightmare

     So do you keep intentionally ignoring the truth that the MONEY sent to them was money we did not return as per an agreement several decades ago? I guess the take part is USA USA USA but the give back part is THOSE NASTY DEMS are at it again.

    Great logic.

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    @ABooksNightmare

     So do you keep intentionally ignoring the truth that the MONEY sent to them was money we did not return as per an agreement several decades ago? I guess the take part is USA USA USA but the give back part is THOSE NASTY DEMS are at it again.

    Great logic.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2026 - 11:06 PM ET #310

    video game became too time consuming, it was however a necessary distraction from the current theaters, Ukraine theater continues to be a blood bath, and the Iranian theater is about to become a wipe out event in my opinion... makes me reflect the good old days when we went in stopped Iraq in matter of weeks from seizing Kuwait do you understand, @ raiders... 

    much much different now.... be safe Sir hope you have a good Easter holiday weekend.....

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    video game became too time consuming, it was however a necessary distraction from the current theaters, Ukraine theater continues to be a blood bath, and the Iranian theater is about to become a wipe out event in my opinion... makes me reflect the good old days when we went in stopped Iraq in matter of weeks from seizing Kuwait do you understand, @ raiders... 

    much much different now.... be safe Sir hope you have a good Easter holiday weekend.....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2026 - 11:14 PM ET #311

    in video game it became a matter of logistics.

    as the damage delivered and my opponents ability to repair became a understandingbof how much damage versus how much left to be damaged to over come and continue until enemy surrendered....

    where intelligence and directions of soldiers became necessary .... it was indeed fun but REALITY it wasn't full tilt and I wasn't winning anything real in terms of money so spending a full week of every waking moment became a huge direction of energy to end up the donkey in city 790 olol there a mayor race there and leans heavy China town a must prop bet I suppose so I voted for dream.... 

     

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    in video game it became a matter of logistics.

    as the damage delivered and my opponents ability to repair became a understandingbof how much damage versus how much left to be damaged to over come and continue until enemy surrendered....

    where intelligence and directions of soldiers became necessary .... it was indeed fun but REALITY it wasn't full tilt and I wasn't winning anything real in terms of money so spending a full week of every waking moment became a huge direction of energy to end up the donkey in city 790 olol there a mayor race there and leans heavy China town a must prop bet I suppose so I voted for dream.... 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2026 - 3:31 AM ET #312

    side prop bet 

    dream or little bear for Mayor 

    still in video game 

    grand Mafia city 790

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    side prop bet 

    dream or little bear for Mayor 

    still in video game 

    grand Mafia city 790

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2026 - 3:56 AM ET #313

    and back to reality 

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    India Joins Japan, Australia, Malaysia, South Korea, China, Thailand, And Other Nations In Asia In Coordinated Emergency Evacuation Efforts To Bring Back Travelers From Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, And More With Special Flights By Emirates, Air India, IndiGo, Etihad, And More

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    In response to the escalating tensions and security threats in the Middle East, India, Japan, Australia, Malaysia, South Korea, China, Thailand, and other countries have come together in a historic show of solidarity to coordinate large-scale emergency evacuation operations for their nationals stranded in the region. As geopolitical instability has caused widespread disruptions in travel and safety, these nations have leveraged their diplomatic ties and air transport networks to organize thousands of special repatriation flights through major airlines like Emirates, Air India, IndiGo, Etihad Airways, and others to bring their citizens home safely from high-risk locations including Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Kuwait

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     Published on March 24, 2026

    India Joins Japan, Australia, Malaysia, South Korea, China, Thailand, And Other Nations In Asia,

    Emergency Evacuation Efforts To Brig Back Thousands Travelers From Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, And Kuwait,

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    In response to the escalating tensions and security threats in the Middle East, India, Japan, Australia, Malaysia, South Korea, China, Thailand, and other countries have come together in a historic show of solidarity to coordinate large-scale emergency evacuation operations for their nationals stranded in the region. As geopolitical instability has caused widespread disruptions in travel and safety, these nations have leveraged their diplomatic ties and air transport networks to organize thousands of special repatriation flights through major airlines like Emirates, Air India, IndiGo, Etihad Airways, and others to bring their citizens home safely from high-risk locations including Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Kuwait

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2026 - 8:27 AM ET #314

    Israel said it killed the commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard navy, who was “directly responsible” for mining and blocking the Strait of Hormuz, in overnight strikes.

     

    Meanwhile, Pakistan said the U.S. and Iran were engaged in indirect talks through messages it was relaying, and that Tehran was considering Washington’s proposals to end the conflict.

     

    In a post on social media, President Trump said Iran’s leadership “better get serious soon” about talks. Trump, who has told associates that he wants the war brought to an end in the coming weeks, also said public statements from Iran’s leaders were different from their private comments.

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    Israel said it killed the commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard navy, who was “directly responsible” for mining and blocking the Strait of Hormuz, in overnight strikes.

     

    Meanwhile, Pakistan said the U.S. and Iran were engaged in indirect talks through messages it was relaying, and that Tehran was considering Washington’s proposals to end the conflict.

     

    In a post on social media, President Trump said Iran’s leadership “better get serious soon” about talks. Trump, who has told associates that he wants the war brought to an end in the coming weeks, also said public statements from Iran’s leaders were different from their private comments.

    source wall street journal 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2026 - 8:49 AM ET #315

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    side prop bet  dream or little bear for Mayor  still in video game  grand Mafia city 790

    little bear won city election peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    side prop bet  dream or little bear for Mayor  still in video game  grand Mafia city 790

    little bear won city election peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2026 - 1:53 PM ET #316

    Trump alone in the room with his therapist.... 

    "The Iranians you've been talking to for 2 days...........are they in the room with us now?"  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Trump alone in the room with his therapist.... 

    "The Iranians you've been talking to for 2 days...........are they in the room with us now?"  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2026 - 2:45 AM ET #317

    the boy needs some risperdal the stresses of the office break down mentally everyone that has held that position. peace_5

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    the boy needs some risperdal the stresses of the office break down mentally everyone that has held that position. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2026 - 3:54 PM ET #318

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Trump alone in the room with his therapist....  "The Iranians you've been talking to for 2 days...........are they in the room with us now?"

    Bravo! Got a laugh out of me there brother.

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    Great to cu back kc! Hope all is well

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Trump alone in the room with his therapist....  "The Iranians you've been talking to for 2 days...........are they in the room with us now?"

    Bravo! Got a laugh out of me there brother.

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    Great to cu back kc! Hope all is well

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2026 - 9:39 AM ET #319

    General Mark Hertling warns Trump's decision to launch Iran is flawed.  Leaving US and allies vulnerable in other battlefields across the globe.  Probable outcome is a draw because there is no win-win scenario.

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    General Mark Hertling warns Trump's decision to launch Iran is flawed.  Leaving US and allies vulnerable in other battlefields across the globe.  Probable outcome is a draw because there is no win-win scenario.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2026 - 10:35 AM ET #320

    A drawan_roll_laughit's not a soccer match

     

    The entire regime (head officials) are gone, most of IRGC, no navy, no airforce, citizens not bein massacred, well.kmown supporters of terrorists groups financially gone, etc....

     

    But yea let's call it a draw....best draw I've ever seen...win

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    A drawan_roll_laughit's not a soccer match

     

    The entire regime (head officials) are gone, most of IRGC, no navy, no airforce, citizens not bein massacred, well.kmown supporters of terrorists groups financially gone, etc....

     

    But yea let's call it a draw....best draw I've ever seen...win

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    General Mark Hertling warns Trump's decision to launch Iran is flawed.  Leaving US and allies vulnerable in other battlefields across the globe.  Probable outcome is a draw because there is no win-win scenario.


    This is what one competitor would say:

     

    A cautionary military perspective (valid and grounded in experience)

     

    But also pessimistic and assumption-heavy

     

    You can argue:

     

    “Limited force without clear strategy leads to stalemate or worse.”

     

    But counter it with:

     

    “Limited force can achieve narrow, realistic objectives without full-scale war.”

     

    So, basically:

     

    Not proven ~ It assumes outcomes and constraints that may not hold

     

    Incomplete ~ It downplays potential limited successes and strategic flexibility

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    General Mark Hertling warns Trump's decision to launch Iran is flawed.  Leaving US and allies vulnerable in other battlefields across the globe.  Probable outcome is a draw because there is no win-win scenario.


    This is what one competitor would say:

     

    A cautionary military perspective (valid and grounded in experience)

     

    But also pessimistic and assumption-heavy

     

    You can argue:

     

    “Limited force without clear strategy leads to stalemate or worse.”

     

    But counter it with:

     

    “Limited force can achieve narrow, realistic objectives without full-scale war.”

     

    So, basically:

     

    Not proven ~ It assumes outcomes and constraints that may not hold

     

    Incomplete ~ It downplays potential limited successes and strategic flexibility

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2026 - 11:25 AM ET #322

    @Raiders22

     It is curious but predictable how you craft and shape a narrative and put someone down for doing the same. You say that your bolded view is valid and based on experience. That is a crafted manipulated statement completely void of context. You cannot use the term EXPERIENCE in an area where that is not true and is actually the opposite of your conclusion.

    What he said especially for that region is completely factual and Iraq proves this point completely. This is a no-win situation because to WIN per your crafted experience response you have to either settle there and take over the government or destroy the millions of people living in the entire REGION that will make his conclusion come to fruition and that is a fact. 

    The US used your faulty logic as a tool to sell the Iraq invasion which was also based on lies and fraud just like this and we were all told that this would make the region better, more freedoms for citizens etc etc and even here on this site there was such nonsense thrown around. My position then was as it is with this now that in this region that bow tied happy endings narrative is completely impossible and what third above said is completely reality and did happen and will happen.

    Trump is such a lesser intelligence than Obama or even Bush and Bush screwed Iraq up very badly and they still are a disaster as a country and the lives of citizens there is worse. Trump has no plan outside of 5 minutes that includes the commitment, funding and infrastructure to allow the make believe conclusion you are spinning to have a chance. 

    Why do you put down a conclusion that someone else made which is based on fact and reality we see NOW in that region and yet spin the same logic to craft a conclusion yourself?

    What exactly is the valid experience we have in THAT REGION which makes your conclusion correct? There is none...

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    @Raiders22

     It is curious but predictable how you craft and shape a narrative and put someone down for doing the same. You say that your bolded view is valid and based on experience. That is a crafted manipulated statement completely void of context. You cannot use the term EXPERIENCE in an area where that is not true and is actually the opposite of your conclusion.

    What he said especially for that region is completely factual and Iraq proves this point completely. This is a no-win situation because to WIN per your crafted experience response you have to either settle there and take over the government or destroy the millions of people living in the entire REGION that will make his conclusion come to fruition and that is a fact. 

    The US used your faulty logic as a tool to sell the Iraq invasion which was also based on lies and fraud just like this and we were all told that this would make the region better, more freedoms for citizens etc etc and even here on this site there was such nonsense thrown around. My position then was as it is with this now that in this region that bow tied happy endings narrative is completely impossible and what third above said is completely reality and did happen and will happen.

    Trump is such a lesser intelligence than Obama or even Bush and Bush screwed Iraq up very badly and they still are a disaster as a country and the lives of citizens there is worse. Trump has no plan outside of 5 minutes that includes the commitment, funding and infrastructure to allow the make believe conclusion you are spinning to have a chance. 

    Why do you put down a conclusion that someone else made which is based on fact and reality we see NOW in that region and yet spin the same logic to craft a conclusion yourself?

    What exactly is the valid experience we have in THAT REGION which makes your conclusion correct? There is none...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2026 - 12:14 PM ET #323

    @wallstreetcappers

     You say that your bolded view is valid and based on experience.

    I am not sure exactly what you are referencing here?

    What bolded view?

    My experience about what?

     peace_5

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    @wallstreetcappers

     You say that your bolded view is valid and based on experience.

    I am not sure exactly what you are referencing here?

    What bolded view?

    My experience about what?

     peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2026 - 12:24 PM ET #324

    @wallstreetcappers

     Are you talking about Hertling’s experience?

    I think that is a very valid way of putting his concern out there.  

    BUT if you have a problem with that, take it up with @thirdperson.  He posted Hertling’s concern — not me.

    I am not sure exactly why you would question his experience, or his opinion.  Of course, it may be seen as manipulative.  But so would the counter.  That is sort of the whole point.

    I posted the competition’s ‘supposed’ counter to it.

     peace_5

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    @wallstreetcappers

     Are you talking about Hertling’s experience?

    I think that is a very valid way of putting his concern out there.  

    BUT if you have a problem with that, take it up with @thirdperson.  He posted Hertling’s concern — not me.

    I am not sure exactly why you would question his experience, or his opinion.  Of course, it may be seen as manipulative.  But so would the counter.  That is sort of the whole point.

    I posted the competition’s ‘supposed’ counter to it.

     peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2026 - 12:52 PM ET #325

    @Raiders22

     My reply is you put down his reference using the same logic that his reply did. Your bolded is the words in your reply that were bolded. I am agreeing 100% with third because we have proof and experience to the very conclusion he is making. There is no win-win there and especially in that country. Ive stated so many times over the years that Iran is the last country in that region you would want to go to war with. Iraq was a soft target they were harmless and not nearly as aggressive and militarily prepared as Iran is. 

    Your reply makes assumptions based on non-valid and immaterial experience since we have absolutely no history of winning in that region. Iraq was not a win for the US and they were nothing like Iran. Winning does not mean you are NOT tucking tail like in Korea and Vietnam and Afghanistan, that is finalizing/ending a war and not admitting you lost. Iraq was a massive loss for the country and for the general population, it was based on lies and fraud so how can you win when you spin a war based on fraud?

    The US military is not a football team who is getting in reps and playing scrimmages, our military has not been tested for war since Vietnam, we rely on our weapons advantage and our spend AND our ex-allies to support us as a united front. Trump wrecked that aspect and it is fortunate we are not engaging in a land battle as it would cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions in spend and we would likely not win in that region.

    So what is your example of our experience that is pertinent to the region that refutes his contention that there is no win-win, I agree with him that this has no chance at winning let alone getting a return on our spend or the loss of life to the US and Iran.

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    @Raiders22

     My reply is you put down his reference using the same logic that his reply did. Your bolded is the words in your reply that were bolded. I am agreeing 100% with third because we have proof and experience to the very conclusion he is making. There is no win-win there and especially in that country. Ive stated so many times over the years that Iran is the last country in that region you would want to go to war with. Iraq was a soft target they were harmless and not nearly as aggressive and militarily prepared as Iran is. 

    Your reply makes assumptions based on non-valid and immaterial experience since we have absolutely no history of winning in that region. Iraq was not a win for the US and they were nothing like Iran. Winning does not mean you are NOT tucking tail like in Korea and Vietnam and Afghanistan, that is finalizing/ending a war and not admitting you lost. Iraq was a massive loss for the country and for the general population, it was based on lies and fraud so how can you win when you spin a war based on fraud?

    The US military is not a football team who is getting in reps and playing scrimmages, our military has not been tested for war since Vietnam, we rely on our weapons advantage and our spend AND our ex-allies to support us as a united front. Trump wrecked that aspect and it is fortunate we are not engaging in a land battle as it would cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions in spend and we would likely not win in that region.

    So what is your example of our experience that is pertinent to the region that refutes his contention that there is no win-win, I agree with him that this has no chance at winning let alone getting a return on our spend or the loss of life to the US and Iran.

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