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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:23 PM ET #51

    damn the totals dont look good. Sides look good though. Too bad i only followed on total cuz i had insufficient funds in my account.
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    damn the totals dont look good. Sides look good though. Too bad i only followed on total cuz i had insufficient funds in my account.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:24 PM ET #52

    Actually, I'm looking through the thread again, and those numbers don't include the Oregon/UCLA game, which was a 2H under play that went about as wrong Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day. 

    So the totals from yesterday should be 8-9-1
    Sides 3-6-1
    Totals 5-3


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    Actually, I'm looking through the thread again, and those numbers don't include the Oregon/UCLA game, which was a 2H under play that went about as wrong Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day. 

    So the totals from yesterday should be 8-9-1
    Sides 3-6-1
    Totals 5-3


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:25 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by trace:

    damn the totals dont look good. Sides look good though. Too bad i only followed on total cuz i had insufficient funds in my account.

     

    Im lucky I put sides only...but its not over yet!!!

     

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by trace:

    damn the totals dont look good. Sides look good though. Too bad i only followed on total cuz i had insufficient funds in my account.

     

    Im lucky I put sides only...but its not over yet!!!

     

    GL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:29 PM ET #54

    yeah i had it feeling it was gonna bite me in the ass for not playin the teams.
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    yeah i had it feeling it was gonna bite me in the ass for not playin the teams.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:30 PM ET #55

    Well, we have one result already...

    • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
    • Det/Minn 2H under 20
    • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
    • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
    • Indy +2.5 2H

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    Well, we have one result already...

    • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
    • Det/Minn 2H under 20
    • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
    • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
    • Indy +2.5 2H

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:35 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by bigirondawg:

    Actually, I'm looking through the thread again, and those numbers don't include the Oregon/UCLA game, which was a 2H under play that went about as wrong Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day. 

    So the totals from yesterday should be 8-9-1
    Sides 3-6-1
    Totals 5-3




    Now that's a sight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigirondawg:

    Actually, I'm looking through the thread again, and those numbers don't include the Oregon/UCLA game, which was a 2H under play that went about as wrong Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day. 

    So the totals from yesterday should be 8-9-1
    Sides 3-6-1
    Totals 5-3




    Now that's a sight!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:36 PM ET #57

    Maybe the TOTALS are meant to be played the other way.  
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    Maybe the TOTALS are meant to be played the other way.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:37 PM ET #58

    Nice goal line stand by the Falcons to keep the under in play.... for now!
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    Nice goal line stand by the Falcons to keep the under in play.... for now!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:39 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by HeaVin-Cent:

    Maybe the TOTALS are meant to be played the other way.  




    You certainly would have been smart to do that in the early games. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeaVin-Cent:

    Maybe the TOTALS are meant to be played the other way.  




    You certainly would have been smart to do that in the early games. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:39 PM ET #60

    Then it would be as if we were playing as the book instead of the flow of the game. You figure after the 1st quarter in MIN/DET it was only 5 points. Most bettors would say that there will not be 21 points scored which is 3 td's when they could barely get FG's in the 1st. The spread are hitting very well for the most part. College had a bad day but a few were just flat out the teams that were playing and not the play. KSTATE is a prime example of that.
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    Then it would be as if we were playing as the book instead of the flow of the game. You figure after the 1st quarter in MIN/DET it was only 5 points. Most bettors would say that there will not be 21 points scored which is 3 td's when they could barely get FG's in the 1st. The spread are hitting very well for the most part. College had a bad day but a few were just flat out the teams that were playing and not the play. KSTATE is a prime example of that.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #61

    Irondawg, do you have the NFL plays on the totals from last week using this system?  How did the overs do vs. the unders?


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    Maybe the TOTALS are meant to be played the other way.  

    At least, not the unders.
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    Irondawg, do you have the NFL plays on the totals from last week using this system?  How did the overs do vs. the unders?


    Quote Originally Posted by HeaVin-Cent:

    Maybe the TOTALS are meant to be played the other way.  

    At least, not the unders.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:43 PM ET #62

    Damn, quote box......

    Irondawg, do you have the NFL plays on the totals from last week using this system?  How did the overs do vs. the unders?
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    Damn, quote box......

    Irondawg, do you have the NFL plays on the totals from last week using this system?  How did the overs do vs. the unders?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:46 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by HeaVin-Cent:

    Then it would be as if we were playing as the book instead of the flow of the game. You figure after the 1st quarter in MIN/DET it was only 5 points. Most bettors would say that there will not be 21 points scored which is 3 td's when they could barely get FG's in the 1st. The spread are hitting very well for the most part. College had a bad day but a few were just flat out the teams that were playing and not the play. KSTATE is a prime example of that.


    That's true, but it's easy to do Monday-morning Quarterbacking. 

    Really, the purpose here is to track the system plays.  You should always give plays the "eyeball test" before playing them yourself.  Some certainly don't make intuitive sense... but then again, those are also some of the plays that tend to hit.

    Totals have outperformed Sides YTD on the college side, it looks like, and they blew them away yesterday.

    It's hard to draw any conclusions from one or two weeks of data.  You really need 7 or 8 weeks to get a good sample size. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeaVin-Cent:

    Then it would be as if we were playing as the book instead of the flow of the game. You figure after the 1st quarter in MIN/DET it was only 5 points. Most bettors would say that there will not be 21 points scored which is 3 td's when they could barely get FG's in the 1st. The spread are hitting very well for the most part. College had a bad day but a few were just flat out the teams that were playing and not the play. KSTATE is a prime example of that.


    That's true, but it's easy to do Monday-morning Quarterbacking. 

    Really, the purpose here is to track the system plays.  You should always give plays the "eyeball test" before playing them yourself.  Some certainly don't make intuitive sense... but then again, those are also some of the plays that tend to hit.

    Totals have outperformed Sides YTD on the college side, it looks like, and they blew them away yesterday.

    It's hard to draw any conclusions from one or two weeks of data.  You really need 7 or 8 weeks to get a good sample size. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:48 PM ET #64

    sorry, kangy, I don't... NJP should have it, since he ran the thread.  I tried to find the plays by skimming the thread, but I didn't see it.  Some trolls got into that thread and starting pissing NJP off, though, so that cluttered things up. 

    This is the first week I've been watching the NFL lines. 
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    sorry, kangy, I don't... NJP should have it, since he ran the thread.  I tried to find the plays by skimming the thread, but I didn't see it.  Some trolls got into that thread and starting pissing NJP off, though, so that cluttered things up. 

    This is the first week I've been watching the NFL lines. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:51 PM ET #65

    Wow... Jason Elam misses a FG with 2:46 left to keep the Chi/Atl under alive!  It's at 20 right now... 
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    Wow... Jason Elam misses a FG with 2:46 left to keep the Chi/Atl under alive!  It's at 20 right now... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:53 PM ET #66

    It was a short FG, too... like a 30-yarder. 

    Now to see if Atl's defense can not-suck. 
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    It was a short FG, too... like a 30-yarder. 

    Now to see if Atl's defense can not-suck. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:54 PM ET #67

    Looks like Detroit and St. Louis will both cover.  Minnesota I would imagine would play for the FG.  Washington, if they get the ball back, should play "run the clock".
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    Looks like Detroit and St. Louis will both cover.  Minnesota I would imagine would play for the FG.  Washington, if they get the ball back, should play "run the clock".
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:56 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by bigirondawg:



    That's true, but it's easy to do Monday-morning Quarterbacking. 

    Really, the purpose here is to track the system plays.  You should always give plays the "eyeball test" before playing them yourself.  Some certainly don't make intuitive sense... but then again, those are also some of the plays that tend to hit.

    Totals have outperformed Sides YTD on the college side, it looks like, and they blew them away yesterday.

    It's hard to draw any conclusions from one or two weeks of data.  You really need 7 or 8 weeks to get a good sample size. 

    I agree with you but playing a Monday morning QB is part of adjusting the system. Obviously we all believe that there is something to this system but we have to continue to make a better. There is always room for corrections for this to hit at a higher rate. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigirondawg:



    That's true, but it's easy to do Monday-morning Quarterbacking. 

    Really, the purpose here is to track the system plays.  You should always give plays the "eyeball test" before playing them yourself.  Some certainly don't make intuitive sense... but then again, those are also some of the plays that tend to hit.

    Totals have outperformed Sides YTD on the college side, it looks like, and they blew them away yesterday.

    It's hard to draw any conclusions from one or two weeks of data.  You really need 7 or 8 weeks to get a good sample size. 

    I agree with you but playing a Monday morning QB is part of adjusting the system. Obviously we all believe that there is something to this system but we have to continue to make a better. There is always room for corrections for this to hit at a higher rate. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:01 PM ET #69

    • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
    • Det/Minn 2H under 20
    • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
    • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
    • Indy +2.5 2H

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    • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
    • Det/Minn 2H under 20
    • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
    • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
    • Indy +2.5 2H

     
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    There goes the Chicago under. 
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    Not a bad start for the system:

    • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
    • Det/Minn 2H under 20
    • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
    • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
    • Indy +2.5 2H


    We'll see how the full day looks after this evening's games.
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    Not a bad start for the system:

    • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
    • Det/Minn 2H under 20
    • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
    • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
    • Indy +2.5 2H


    We'll see how the full day looks after this evening's games.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:09 PM ET #72

    WOW what a slate of early games, four games coming down to the last seconds!!!!  
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    WOW what a slate of early games, four games coming down to the last seconds!!!!  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:16 PM ET #73

    Next round of games.... Here are the lines.

    JAX (+3.5) @ DEN / 48.5
    DAL (-4.5) @ ARZ / 53
    PHI (-4.5) @ SF / 41.5
    GB (+1) @ SEA / 44

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    JAX (+3.5) @ DEN / 48.5
    DAL (-4.5) @ ARZ / 53
    PHI (-4.5) @ SF / 41.5
    GB (+1) @ SEA / 44

     
    HeaVin-Cent
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:17 PM ET #74

    Man those games were close!!! 
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:17 PM ET #75

    60% works well for me though !!!!!!
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    60% works well for me though !!!!!!
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