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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 5:50 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by mvp12331233:

    good luck guys. I need MUCHO points in this AZ/DAL game.  I really needed that fumble return for a TD.    THAT was bull shit it was a TONY person FUMBLE


    GL 

    The system, however, needs not-mucho points. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp12331233:

    good luck guys. I need MUCHO points in this AZ/DAL game.  I really needed that fumble return for a TD.    THAT was bull shit it was a TONY person FUMBLE


    GL 

    The system, however, needs not-mucho points. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 5:52 PM ET #102

    Rak:

    Technically, the middle on the spread is 0.5 points, but you drop the half-point when there is one.
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    Rak:

    Technically, the middle on the spread is 0.5 points, but you drop the half-point when there is one.
     
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    I have a chance to review your posts.  Porky does have the right idea in this situation.  If a team does well in the first half, the system rewards that team in the second half (or assumes that team will come out with the same intensity in the first half).  It may be the other team just has a bad day. 

    In college, this is definitely the play.  If a huge dog of 30 or more leads or is really close at the half, there would be more incentive for that team to play harder in the second half to make the game competitive.  Hence, you would reward the dog with PLUS the huge spread for the 2H. 

    Also, if a huge favorite has a huge lead at the half, the line must be close to pick 'em because at this point, the spread is close (if not almost reached) by halftime, the dog team appears to give up at this point, more than likely allowing the favorite to complete the cover.

    However, if the favorite has already covered the game spread by halftime, the play should still be on the favorite at PK, for the same reason. 

    There is alot of emotion that goes into a college game and a lot can be taken out by halftime.

    In the pros, these guys play for money and glory.  The pros I would expect to be a little different, which is why we are testing the theory here.  With all the parity between teams in the NFL, any team can beat any other team on any day of the week.  With that said, a lot more thought process has to go into capping 2H games inthe NFL.

    Take the Rams, they were leading at the half, why would they not try to play better to get that first win vd. the Skins?  Also, with the parity, a lot of the lines will hit the middle.  I am not sure we will get the same success rate as with a college game, but isn't that what capping is all about?  Trying to tweak something? 

    However, to tweak a system would not mean to alter it.  This system is a contrarian play for the most part.  So you would temd to want to vote against the public and against logic.  So it must remain that way.  Any tweaks to this system would have to be tighteners, otherwise the system is no longer a system. 

    For example, in the NFL, if the pre-game line for a team is -14, and that team is tied or trailing at the half, would this present a better play on the dog in the 2H (causing the middle to miss), or would it present less of a chance if the favorite was only favored by -7 or -3 before the game? 

    There is validity to what you are saying.  Yes, in the NFL, there will be mosre likely to come close ith the numbers.

    But if you say, just take the opposite in the NFL to hit the middle, then it is not a system anymore.  It becomes... well... a "hybrid" 


    I have been burned too many times by my logic of taking teams hoping the middle hits, so this is actually something worth considering.  With the NBA coming up, I would like to see how this system does there.  But that can be a little tricky, because there seem to be 4 different mini-games for every NBA game.  It depends on who is in the game at that time.




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    I have a chance to review your posts.  Porky does have the right idea in this situation.  If a team does well in the first half, the system rewards that team in the second half (or assumes that team will come out with the same intensity in the first half).  It may be the other team just has a bad day. 

    In college, this is definitely the play.  If a huge dog of 30 or more leads or is really close at the half, there would be more incentive for that team to play harder in the second half to make the game competitive.  Hence, you would reward the dog with PLUS the huge spread for the 2H. 

    Also, if a huge favorite has a huge lead at the half, the line must be close to pick 'em because at this point, the spread is close (if not almost reached) by halftime, the dog team appears to give up at this point, more than likely allowing the favorite to complete the cover.

    However, if the favorite has already covered the game spread by halftime, the play should still be on the favorite at PK, for the same reason. 

    There is alot of emotion that goes into a college game and a lot can be taken out by halftime.

    In the pros, these guys play for money and glory.  The pros I would expect to be a little different, which is why we are testing the theory here.  With all the parity between teams in the NFL, any team can beat any other team on any day of the week.  With that said, a lot more thought process has to go into capping 2H games inthe NFL.

    Take the Rams, they were leading at the half, why would they not try to play better to get that first win vd. the Skins?  Also, with the parity, a lot of the lines will hit the middle.  I am not sure we will get the same success rate as with a college game, but isn't that what capping is all about?  Trying to tweak something? 

    However, to tweak a system would not mean to alter it.  This system is a contrarian play for the most part.  So you would temd to want to vote against the public and against logic.  So it must remain that way.  Any tweaks to this system would have to be tighteners, otherwise the system is no longer a system. 

    For example, in the NFL, if the pre-game line for a team is -14, and that team is tied or trailing at the half, would this present a better play on the dog in the 2H (causing the middle to miss), or would it present less of a chance if the favorite was only favored by -7 or -3 before the game? 

    There is validity to what you are saying.  Yes, in the NFL, there will be mosre likely to come close ith the numbers.

    But if you say, just take the opposite in the NFL to hit the middle, then it is not a system anymore.  It becomes... well... a "hybrid" 


    I have been burned too many times by my logic of taking teams hoping the middle hits, so this is actually something worth considering.  With the NBA coming up, I would like to see how this system does there.  But that can be a little tricky, because there seem to be 4 different mini-games for every NBA game.  It depends on who is in the game at that time.




     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 5:54 PM ET #104

    Never mind Big Dawg. I had it 17-9 still.
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    Never mind Big Dawg. I had it 17-9 still.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 5:55 PM ET #105

    dallas -3 here, gl with plays. 3 units sounds about right
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    dallas -3 here, gl with plays. 3 units sounds about right
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 6:03 PM ET #106

    I have been keeping an eye on these second half stats plays to see if they have any merit to work into my wagering.  What I still don't understand is how you read the middle in order to decide on the O/U.  How do you know which way is correct?  O/U? Still a little confused on the system in its final decision making for the wager.....Begging for an explaination again.......
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    I have been keeping an eye on these second half stats plays to see if they have any merit to work into my wagering.  What I still don't understand is how you read the middle in order to decide on the O/U.  How do you know which way is correct?  O/U? Still a little confused on the system in its final decision making for the wager.....Begging for an explaination again.......
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 6:08 PM ET #107

    Also, Rounder.  The system assumes the first half of a game will be played like the second half. 

    If the Over has already hit by halftime, there is a likely chance the 2H over will hit as well (as long at it is a valid play of more than 10 or 15 points from the actual totals - one way or the other).  The tweak is do we have a higher percentage of wins if we go with a 15 point middle, than with a 10 point middle. 

    If the under hits for the 1H, there is a great chance the 2H under whatever it will be - will hit as well, as long as that is a qualifying play.  It's a numbers game, and we welcome comments to make any system better.



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    Also, Rounder.  The system assumes the first half of a game will be played like the second half. 

    If the Over has already hit by halftime, there is a likely chance the 2H over will hit as well (as long at it is a valid play of more than 10 or 15 points from the actual totals - one way or the other).  The tweak is do we have a higher percentage of wins if we go with a 15 point middle, than with a 10 point middle. 

    If the under hits for the 1H, there is a great chance the 2H under whatever it will be - will hit as well, as long as that is a qualifying play.  It's a numbers game, and we welcome comments to make any system better.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 6:13 PM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by c_money:

    can u explain the system again? whats the middle? and how do u determine that?


    Ultimately, the middle is the difference between the pre-game line and the 2H lines. Let me use the Philly/SF game as an example. 

    Philadelphia @ San Francisco - Line Philly -4.5/41.5
    Half Score: PHI 17-16
    2H Line: PHI -3/20.5
    Middle: 0 spread, 12 total
    Play: no spread, 2H over 20.5

    Philly is favored by 4.5 for the game, and the total is 41.5.  At halftime, Philly is leading by 1, and the total is 33.

    The 2H line is Philly -3, and total of 20.5.  If Philly -3 hits (by the minimum... 3... which, yes, is technically a push), then that means they'll be 4 ahead, and the game line of -4.5 is a loser.  It's only a loser by 0.5 points, though... which is the "middle." 

    On the total side, you add total points to the 2H line, and subtract that from the pre-game line, and that's the middle. So, in this case, 33+20.5= 53.5.  And 53.5-41.5=12 points, which is the middle.

    If the middle is more than 10 points, you take the side that makes the middle easier to miss. On the totals, this means judging by what's happened so far in the game. So, in this game, if the 2H under hits by the minimum (0), the game total will also be under (33).  If the 2H over hits by the minimum (21), then the game total will be 53.5, which is also over.  These teams have already scored 33 total, so will they be more likely to score 0 or 21 the rest of the game?  Logic says they'll be more likely to score 21, so you take the over.

    On the spreads, you have to judge which side makes missing the middle easier.  For illustration purposes, let's say the initial line was Philly -14.5 instead of -4.5.  That would make the middle 10 points.  If Philly wins the 2H by the minimum (3), they'd win by 4 points, which is 10.5 points short of covering the game line (and, thus, missing the middle).  To miss the middle, Philly would have to win the 2H by 14 points.  Likewise, if SF wins by the minimum (-3), they'll lose by 4, but will have covered their line (thus missing the middle).

    So, on the 2H spreads, you have to decide if SF +3 or Philly -14 is more likely.  Logic says that in a 1-point game, SF +3 is more likely than Philly -14, so you take SF +3. 

    Does that help? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by c_money:

    can u explain the system again? whats the middle? and how do u determine that?


    Ultimately, the middle is the difference between the pre-game line and the 2H lines. Let me use the Philly/SF game as an example. 

    Philadelphia @ San Francisco - Line Philly -4.5/41.5
    Half Score: PHI 17-16
    2H Line: PHI -3/20.5
    Middle: 0 spread, 12 total
    Play: no spread, 2H over 20.5

    Philly is favored by 4.5 for the game, and the total is 41.5.  At halftime, Philly is leading by 1, and the total is 33.

    The 2H line is Philly -3, and total of 20.5.  If Philly -3 hits (by the minimum... 3... which, yes, is technically a push), then that means they'll be 4 ahead, and the game line of -4.5 is a loser.  It's only a loser by 0.5 points, though... which is the "middle." 

    On the total side, you add total points to the 2H line, and subtract that from the pre-game line, and that's the middle. So, in this case, 33+20.5= 53.5.  And 53.5-41.5=12 points, which is the middle.

    If the middle is more than 10 points, you take the side that makes the middle easier to miss. On the totals, this means judging by what's happened so far in the game. So, in this game, if the 2H under hits by the minimum (0), the game total will also be under (33).  If the 2H over hits by the minimum (21), then the game total will be 53.5, which is also over.  These teams have already scored 33 total, so will they be more likely to score 0 or 21 the rest of the game?  Logic says they'll be more likely to score 21, so you take the over.

    On the spreads, you have to judge which side makes missing the middle easier.  For illustration purposes, let's say the initial line was Philly -14.5 instead of -4.5.  That would make the middle 10 points.  If Philly wins the 2H by the minimum (3), they'd win by 4 points, which is 10.5 points short of covering the game line (and, thus, missing the middle).  To miss the middle, Philly would have to win the 2H by 14 points.  Likewise, if SF wins by the minimum (-3), they'll lose by 4, but will have covered their line (thus missing the middle).

    So, on the 2H spreads, you have to decide if SF +3 or Philly -14 is more likely.  Logic says that in a 1-point game, SF +3 is more likely than Philly -14, so you take SF +3. 

    Does that help? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:

    I have a chance to review your posts.  Porky does have the right idea in this situation.  If a team does well in the first half, the system rewards that team in the second half (or assumes that team will come out with the same intensity in the first half).  It may be the other team just has a bad day. 

    In college, this is definitely the play.  If a huge dog of 30 or more leads or is really close at the half, there would be more incentive for that team to play harder in the second half to make the game competitive.  Hence, you would reward the dog with PLUS the huge spread for the 2H. 

    Also, if a huge favorite has a huge lead at the half, the line must be close to pick 'em because at this point, the spread is close (if not almost reached) by halftime, the dog team appears to give up at this point, more than likely allowing the favorite to complete the cover.

    However, if the favorite has already covered the game spread by halftime, the play should still be on the favorite at PK, for the same reason. 

    There is alot of emotion that goes into a college game and a lot can be taken out by halftime.

    In the pros, these guys play for money and glory.  The pros I would expect to be a little different, which is why we are testing the theory here.  With all the parity between teams in the NFL, any team can beat any other team on any day of the week.  With that said, a lot more thought process has to go into capping 2H games inthe NFL.

    Take the Rams, they were leading at the half, why would they not try to play better to get that first win vd. the Skins?  Also, with the parity, a lot of the lines will hit the middle.  I am not sure we will get the same success rate as with a college game, but isn't that what capping is all about?  Trying to tweak something? 

    However, to tweak a system would not mean to alter it.  This system is a contrarian play for the most part.  So you would temd to want to vote against the public and against logic.  So it must remain that way.  Any tweaks to this system would have to be tighteners, otherwise the system is no longer a system. 

    For example, in the NFL, if the pre-game line for a team is -14, and that team is tied or trailing at the half, would this present a better play on the dog in the 2H (causing the middle to miss), or would it present less of a chance if the favorite was only favored by -7 or -3 before the game? 

    There is validity to what you are saying.  Yes, in the NFL, there will be mosre likely to come close ith the numbers.

    But if you say, just take the opposite in the NFL to hit the middle, then it is not a system anymore.  It becomes... well... a "hybrid" 


    I have been burned too many times by my logic of taking teams hoping the middle hits, so this is actually something worth considering.  With the NBA coming up, I would like to see how this system does there.  But that can be a little tricky, because there seem to be 4 different mini-games for every NBA game.  It depends on who is in the game at that time.





     
              
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    I have a chance to review your posts.  Porky does have the right idea in this situation.  If a team does well in the first half, the system rewards that team in the second half (or assumes that team will come out with the same intensity in the first half).  It may be the other team just has a bad day. 

    In college, this is definitely the play.  If a huge dog of 30 or more leads or is really close at the half, there would be more incentive for that team to play harder in the second half to make the game competitive.  Hence, you would reward the dog with PLUS the huge spread for the 2H. 

    Also, if a huge favorite has a huge lead at the half, the line must be close to pick 'em because at this point, the spread is close (if not almost reached) by halftime, the dog team appears to give up at this point, more than likely allowing the favorite to complete the cover.

    However, if the favorite has already covered the game spread by halftime, the play should still be on the favorite at PK, for the same reason. 

    There is alot of emotion that goes into a college game and a lot can be taken out by halftime.

    In the pros, these guys play for money and glory.  The pros I would expect to be a little different, which is why we are testing the theory here.  With all the parity between teams in the NFL, any team can beat any other team on any day of the week.  With that said, a lot more thought process has to go into capping 2H games inthe NFL.

    Take the Rams, they were leading at the half, why would they not try to play better to get that first win vd. the Skins?  Also, with the parity, a lot of the lines will hit the middle.  I am not sure we will get the same success rate as with a college game, but isn't that what capping is all about?  Trying to tweak something? 

    However, to tweak a system would not mean to alter it.  This system is a contrarian play for the most part.  So you would temd to want to vote against the public and against logic.  So it must remain that way.  Any tweaks to this system would have to be tighteners, otherwise the system is no longer a system. 

    For example, in the NFL, if the pre-game line for a team is -14, and that team is tied or trailing at the half, would this present a better play on the dog in the 2H (causing the middle to miss), or would it present less of a chance if the favorite was only favored by -7 or -3 before the game? 

    There is validity to what you are saying.  Yes, in the NFL, there will be mosre likely to come close ith the numbers.

    But if you say, just take the opposite in the NFL to hit the middle, then it is not a system anymore.  It becomes... well... a "hybrid" 


    I have been burned too many times by my logic of taking teams hoping the middle hits, so this is actually something worth considering.  With the NBA coming up, I would like to see how this system does there.  But that can be a little tricky, because there seem to be 4 different mini-games for every NBA game.  It depends on who is in the game at that time.





     
              
     
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    Well said Irondawg!
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    Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:

    Well said Irondawg!



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    Well said Irondawg!



     
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    I ran a "7-10-15" test for this system.  This is nothing more than using 7,10 and 15 point middles to have an idea how the percentages are faring.  Here are my findings:

    15 point middles :
    DET UN 20  (WIN)
    IND +0.5 or +2.5 or plus whatever lol (WIN)
    DAL UN 24.5 (pending)
    100% (2-0, 1 pending)


    10 point middles
    - these include everything from above plus these plays:
    OAK UN 22.5 (LOSS)
    CHI UN 20.5 (LOSS)
    TB +0.5 (WIN)
    PHI OV 20.5 (pending)
    60% (3-2, 2 pending)


    7 point middles - these include everything from above plus these plays:
    ATL -3 (LOSS)
    NYJ OV 21 (LOSS)
    DET +7 (WIN)
    STL +7 (WIN)
    JAX UN 23.5 (pending)
    55% (5-4, 3 pending)

    So far it looks like we might want to move up the line to 15 pt, but let's see how the 7 pointers hit.  It might be more games, but the percentage may be higher.


    If we take the 10 pt sides (2-0) and the 15 pt totals (1-0, 1 pending) we are 3-0 so far with the DAL UN24.5 pending.

    If we take the 7 pt sides (4-1) and the 15 pt totals (1-0, 1 pending) we are 5-1 so far with DAL UN24.5 pending.


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    I ran a "7-10-15" test for this system.  This is nothing more than using 7,10 and 15 point middles to have an idea how the percentages are faring.  Here are my findings:

    15 point middles :
    DET UN 20  (WIN)
    IND +0.5 or +2.5 or plus whatever lol (WIN)
    DAL UN 24.5 (pending)
    100% (2-0, 1 pending)


    10 point middles
    - these include everything from above plus these plays:
    OAK UN 22.5 (LOSS)
    CHI UN 20.5 (LOSS)
    TB +0.5 (WIN)
    PHI OV 20.5 (pending)
    60% (3-2, 2 pending)


    7 point middles - these include everything from above plus these plays:
    ATL -3 (LOSS)
    NYJ OV 21 (LOSS)
    DET +7 (WIN)
    STL +7 (WIN)
    JAX UN 23.5 (pending)
    55% (5-4, 3 pending)

    So far it looks like we might want to move up the line to 15 pt, but let's see how the 7 pointers hit.  It might be more games, but the percentage may be higher.


    If we take the 10 pt sides (2-0) and the 15 pt totals (1-0, 1 pending) we are 3-0 so far with the DAL UN24.5 pending.

    If we take the 7 pt sides (4-1) and the 15 pt totals (1-0, 1 pending) we are 5-1 so far with DAL UN24.5 pending.


     
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  • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
  • Det/Minn 2H under 20
  • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
  • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
  • Indy +2.5 2H
  • DAL/AZ 2H under 24.5
  • PHI/SF 2H over 20.5
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  • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
  • Det/Minn 2H under 20
  • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
  • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
  • Indy +2.5 2H
  • DAL/AZ 2H under 24.5
  • PHI/SF 2H over 20.5
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    Record so far today:

  • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
  • Det/Minn 2H under 20
  • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
  • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
  • Indy +2.5 2H
  • DAL/AZ 2H under 24.5
  • PHI/SF 2H over 20.5 

  • Overall: 4-3 (57%)
    Sides: 2-0
    Totals: 2-3

    One more game to go today.
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    Record so far today:

  • Oak/NO 2H under 22.5
  • Det/Minn 2H under 20
  • Chi/Atl 2H under 20.5
  • Tampa Bay +0.5 2H
  • Indy +2.5 2H
  • DAL/AZ 2H under 24.5
  • PHI/SF 2H over 20.5 

  • Overall: 4-3 (57%)
    Sides: 2-0
    Totals: 2-3

    One more game to go today.
     
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    PHI OV hits, JAX UN miss and DAL UND miss.

    15 point middles -  67% (2-1)
    10 point middles
    - 53% (4-3)
    7 point middles - 50% (6-6)

    If we take 10 pt sides (2-0) and the 15 pt totals (1-1) we are 3-1.
    If we take 7 pt sides (4-1) and the 15 pt totals (1-1) we are 5-2.
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    PHI OV hits, JAX UN miss and DAL UND miss.

    15 point middles -  67% (2-1)
    10 point middles
    - 53% (4-3)
    7 point middles - 50% (6-6)

    If we take 10 pt sides (2-0) and the 15 pt totals (1-1) we are 3-1.
    If we take 7 pt sides (4-1) and the 15 pt totals (1-1) we are 5-2.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 7:40 PM ET #116

    Would love to see the plays from last week.  But I will be tracking the 7-10-15 next week as well. 


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    Would love to see the plays from last week.  But I will be tracking the 7-10-15 next week as well. 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 7:58 PM ET #117

    Thanks, kangy... good stuff. 
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 9:03 PM ET #118

    I went with the OVER in the DAL/AZ game. I tailed the PHI/SF game. Hopefully we can get a good situation in the SNF game tonight. 
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    I went with the OVER in the DAL/AZ game. I tailed the PHI/SF game. Hopefully we can get a good situation in the SNF game tonight. 
     
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    DAWG thanks for the plays  
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    bigirondawg, usakangy
     
    Hey guys great job today with the posting of the plays..thanks so much...I had my two games at 11 and 2pm and then got a call to do another at 5:30 so i just got home and have been reading the thread......
     
    in the NFL the sides really look like the plays.....and moving the totals to middles of 15 or more also looks like a slight tweak that makes sense......
     
    PS bigirondawg thanks so much for the posts at the beginning of the thread about the trolls and my system....
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    Hey guys great job today with the posting of the plays..thanks so much...I had my two games at 11 and 2pm and then got a call to do another at 5:30 so i just got home and have been reading the thread......
     
    in the NFL the sides really look like the plays.....and moving the totals to middles of 15 or more also looks like a slight tweak that makes sense......
     
    PS bigirondawg thanks so much for the posts at the beginning of the thread about the trolls and my system....
     
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    GUYS this was the system for sides only, going into this weekend in the NFL only:
     
    9/7 2H Steelers -1/2 WINNER!
    9/7 2H Bills -3  WINNER!
    9/7 2H Eagles -3 WINNER!
    9/7 2H Cowboys -3 WINNER!
    9/7 2H Bears +8 WINNER!
    9/8 2H Broncos pk WINNER!
     
    WEEK #1: 6-0 Win %: 100% Units: +6
     
    9/14 2H Packers -2.5 WINNER!
    9/14 2H Cardinals pk WINNER!
    9/14 2H Broncos -3 LOSER!
     
    WEEK #2: 2-1 Win %: 67% Units: +.9
     
    9/21 2H Falcons -2.5 WINNER!
    9/21 2H Dolphins +7 WINNER!
    9/21 2H Seahawks -2.5 WINNER!
    9/21 2H 49'ers -1.5 LOSER!
    9/22 2H Chargers -3 LOSER!
     
    WEEK #3: 3-2  Win%: 60% Units: +.8
     
    9/28 2H Jets -3.5 LOSER!
    9/28 2H Saints -1 LOSER!
    9/28 2H Rams +6.5 LOSER!
    9/28 2H Raiders + 7 LOSER!
    9/29 2H Ravens +4.5 LOSER!
     
    WEEK #4: 0-5 Win %: 0% Units: -5.5
     
    10/5 2H Panthers -4.5 WINNER!
    10/5 2H Dolphins +5 LOSER!
    10/5 2H Bears -1/2 WINNER!
    10/5 2H Giants pk (-120) WINNER!
     
    WEEK #5: 3-1 Win %: 75% Units:  +1.9
     
     
    That's a total of :
     
    YTD: 14-9
    Win %: 61%
    Units: +4.1
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    GUYS this was the system for sides only, going into this weekend in the NFL only:
     
    9/7 2H Steelers -1/2 WINNER!
    9/7 2H Bills -3  WINNER!
    9/7 2H Eagles -3 WINNER!
    9/7 2H Cowboys -3 WINNER!
    9/7 2H Bears +8 WINNER!
    9/8 2H Broncos pk WINNER!
     
    WEEK #1: 6-0 Win %: 100% Units: +6
     
    9/14 2H Packers -2.5 WINNER!
    9/14 2H Cardinals pk WINNER!
    9/14 2H Broncos -3 LOSER!
     
    WEEK #2: 2-1 Win %: 67% Units: +.9
     
    9/21 2H Falcons -2.5 WINNER!
    9/21 2H Dolphins +7 WINNER!
    9/21 2H Seahawks -2.5 WINNER!
    9/21 2H 49'ers -1.5 LOSER!
    9/22 2H Chargers -3 LOSER!
     
    WEEK #3: 3-2  Win%: 60% Units: +.8
     
    9/28 2H Jets -3.5 LOSER!
    9/28 2H Saints -1 LOSER!
    9/28 2H Rams +6.5 LOSER!
    9/28 2H Raiders + 7 LOSER!
    9/29 2H Ravens +4.5 LOSER!
     
    WEEK #4: 0-5 Win %: 0% Units: -5.5
     
    10/5 2H Panthers -4.5 WINNER!
    10/5 2H Dolphins +5 LOSER!
    10/5 2H Bears -1/2 WINNER!
    10/5 2H Giants pk (-120) WINNER!
     
    WEEK #5: 3-1 Win %: 75% Units:  +1.9
     
     
    That's a total of :
     
    YTD: 14-9
    Win %: 61%
    Units: +4.1
     
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    I don't have a totals season stats as I can only get 2H side lines on vegasinsider.
     
    But the sides in the NFL look strong as if you add in today's plays were at:
     
    YTD: 16-9
    Win %: 64%
    Units: +6.1
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    I don't have a totals season stats as I can only get 2H side lines on vegasinsider.
     
    But the sides in the NFL look strong as if you add in today's plays were at:
     
    YTD: 16-9
    Win %: 64%
    Units: +6.1
     
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    New England @ San Diego - Line SD -5/44
    Half Score: SD 17-3
    2H Line: SD -2.5/21.5
    Middle: 11 spread, 2 total
    Play: SD -2.5 2H, no total
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    New England @ San Diego - Line SD -5/44
    Half Score: SD 17-3
    2H Line: SD -2.5/21.5
    Middle: 11 spread, 2 total
    Play: SD -2.5 2H, no total
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigirondawg:

    Oh, and it seems we've picked up a couple of trolls over the past week. (That's amusing to me, since I don't think NJPorky or myself ever claimed that this system was foolproof or even that great... NJP has just been tracking it and reporting on its record.)

    I think we should agree with Wikipedia's policy and don't feed the trolls.  Or, if you subscribe to the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory, just dismiss the them, as they deserve.

    I just looked at my old NFL thread to get the system's record and saw Tommy was banned by Covers.....lmao

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    Oh, and it seems we've picked up a couple of trolls over the past week. (That's amusing to me, since I don't think NJPorky or myself ever claimed that this system was foolproof or even that great... NJP has just been tracking it and reporting on its record.)

    I think we should agree with Wikipedia's policy and don't feed the trolls.  Or, if you subscribe to the Greater Internet Dickwad Theory, just dismiss the them, as they deserve.

    I just looked at my old NFL thread to get the system's record and saw Tommy was banned by Covers.....lmao

     
     
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