Another Mass Shooting

Jesus Christ, autocorrect.

*DEFUNDING POLICE IS NEVER THE ANSWER. I DON'T BELIEVE IN DEFUNDING THE POLICE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW POLICE SOAK UP BUDGET, WHILE OFTEN TIMES HAVING HORRIBLE SOLVE RATES AND BEING MIRED IN CONTROVERSY, I BELIEVE IN FUNDING AND SUPPORTING OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. 

@StumpTownStu

 Not American but assuming private schools in Massachusetts are very expensive....even catholic ones would have a cost higher than public school

He has some financial smarts for sure. Which could also be related to his upbringing. 

Chances are he grew up in a well-off household 

Valid point.  Gun laws elsewhere is what reduces these horrible events.  Doesn't eliminate them altogether, but sure does reduce them.

I was under the impression that it was the police; job to serve and protect all citizens, including children in school and teachers facing life-threatening conditions. I guess I am wrong.

So teachers essentially would carry two hats under Detox' fantasyland scenario. Educators of the children, and trained killers ready to thwart any mass shootings on site. Considering trained police officers, who have one job couldn't even stop the active shooter on the scene, somehow I don't think armed teachers would have got the job done. 

This fact about the USA is being discussed ALL OVER THE WORLD AS WE SPEAK

So basically you're for having zero teachers? How many people are lining up to sell their businesses to become teachers? What business do you own that qualifies you to teach AP English? Newspaper? What business do you own that qualifies you to teach Calculus? Software engineering? Where are all these people coming from that have found success in business, and now they want to "teach to give back " what kind of fairytale are you living in. "You say ran a successful landscaping company? Sounds like a high school physics teacher to me."

Maybe we should live in a country where being a teacher IS the successful thing. Maybe we should be able to look at their bank accounts AFTER they become teachers, seeing as how we are judging value by personal wealth.

I've done quite well for myself financially. And I pulled down A's and B's in STEM related subjects. And let me tell you,I have no business teaching, nor a desire to do so.

Some very good points in your post.  But I think with your final point, which is a good one, could still go further than that.  I already proposed a real solution in a previous thread (now boxed) that making gun ownership similar to the ownership and use of a car (ie, damn expensive!) would significantly drive down the prevalence of these horrific incidents (can't eliminate them, but can reduce them bigly!) yet at the same time still preserve everyone's 2nd amendment rights!  There is no law, and nothing in the constitution, that says gun ownership must be cheap!  If it was VERY EXPENSIVE and regulated, Buffalo and Uvalde would not have happened.

Another valid point.

You can educate yourself here if you’d like 

https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.”

@BWS77

 I am submitting this post to Fubah2 for early consideration of 2022 POST of the YEAR.

Private schools are expensive. Catholic schools are expensive. Many of my friends are from SF. Many of them are Catholic. It is somewhat customary in a city like that for Catholic kids to go to Catholic schools, as expensive as they are. Their parents weren't rich. Middle-class when there was such a thing. They simply made a sacrifice.

I personally grew up in the hood but had professionals and degrees in my family background, and it is why I am the person I am today. It starts in the household. I am not going to slam my brother for his upbringing, nor make assumptions about said upbringing. I'll say again though, it starts in the household.

Tox brings this very theme up often when talking about the plight of minorities and he is called a racist. He then brings up the success of Nigerian Americans and it's crickets all around. Maybe Tox is racist. I call him my brother but I don't know him personally. However, I am aware of that label being used by many on the left (not all) to invalidate a person's opinion.

This post is evidence why there must be universal background checks before letting people like him have a gun.

You’re suggesting that only rich people should be allowed to own guns to hunt, defend themselves and defend their families? 

That's federal law. And state law. Police are city employees. Each swears and oath. And while the verbage may change from department to department, they all say something about protecting the public. You may drive a bus. There may not be a constitutional law that says you have to drive defensively, and protect your passengers, but it's still your damn job.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? 

Always funny when you don't read the rest of the articles you post detox meds, just to push your silly narratives. 

From the article you posted. 

"Nevertheless, we are told there is an agreement here — a "social contract" — between government agencies and the taxpayers and citizens.

And, by the very nature of being a contract, we are meant to believe this is a two-way street. The taxpayers are required to submit to a government monopoly on force, and to pay these agencies taxes.

In return, these government agents will provide services. In the case of police agencies, these services are summed up by the phrase "to protect and serve" — a motto that has in recent decades been adopted by numerous police agencies.

But what happens when those police agencies don't protect and serve? That is, what happens when one party in this alleged social contract doesn't keep up its end of the bargain.

The answer is: very little."

Sad, so much support from you Republicans for police when police officers are killing unarmed black people for basic traffic violations, but dead silence when the police don't do anything to stop a mass shooting or protect vulnerable children in school during an active shooting.

Then the argument is well technically it's not the police' job to protect and serve citizens. Only when those scary unarmed blacks aren't doing what they are told by police for routine stops. Then police must shoot them to protect the rest of the public because these menaces are such threats to collective safety. 

Lifeguard watches a kid drown. Stands there, drinks a Mai Tai, and watches a kid drown. When asked why he says, "I had no constitutional obligation to save that kid."

Tox's fantasy world. All teachers are worthless. We're going to find successful businessmen to fill all teaching positions. Oh yeah, and cops have no "constitutional obligation" to save kids. Sure, it's their job. They just aren't bound by the constitution to do so because, you know, the framers of the constitution felt it necessary to cover such things.

  Just because everyone else in the town (over 75% hispanic) is getting a weak income doesn't mean someone getting more is "basically rich"

"Basically rich" people I know own large homes, 2 vehicles at least, bigass RVs and vacation homes, often with a boat, and do a lot of international travelling.   I doubt this is the case for those "basically rich" teachers in Uvalde.

Probably makes no sense though to a guy who claims to be a multi-millionaire off Bitcoin

In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others — even when a threat is apparent.

I fly a ton. I better look up if pilots are constitutionally obligated to not fly my ass smack dab into Mount Hood or South freaking Sister.

Same guy believes 9-11 was a false flag operation.

That’s a lot of words to say nothing. 

So basically the article you posted was all BS. Got it.

The majority of those words are from the article you posted.