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    Midnight1
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 9:23 PM ET #1

     Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on...

    WTF????? 

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     Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on...

    WTF????? 

     
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    "We have evidence in custody right now that shows that there is some racial component to these alleged actions," says Erie County District Attorney John Flynn on the shooting that left 10 people dead and three wounded at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York.

    No shit...the dude drove a ton of miles to this predominately black supported grocery store. 

    These scumbags are piles of manure ready to explode & get their courage (sic) from their online buddies. 

    See something say something doesn't exist in the minds of far too many in our country. 

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    "We have evidence in custody right now that shows that there is some racial component to these alleged actions," says Erie County District Attorney John Flynn on the shooting that left 10 people dead and three wounded at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York.

    No shit...the dude drove a ton of miles to this predominately black supported grocery store. 

    These scumbags are piles of manure ready to explode & get their courage (sic) from their online buddies. 

    See something say something doesn't exist in the minds of far too many in our country. 

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 10:21 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on... WTF?????

     

    Because a certain large section of US society believes it is  a constitutional right for every angry, hostile young man to walk around with automatic weapons whenever and whereever the angry man chooses.   In some states open carry like the wild west.  With the exception being it's not a 6 chambered revolver, it's modern military style assault weapons with armor piercing rounds and high capacity mags

    And it seems it's open season on black people.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on... WTF?????

     

    Because a certain large section of US society believes it is  a constitutional right for every angry, hostile young man to walk around with automatic weapons whenever and whereever the angry man chooses.   In some states open carry like the wild west.  With the exception being it's not a 6 chambered revolver, it's modern military style assault weapons with armor piercing rounds and high capacity mags

    And it seems it's open season on black people.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 10:50 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on... WTF?????

     

    repos r already lining up to say    ITS ALL BIDENS FAULT !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on... WTF?????

     

    repos r already lining up to say    ITS ALL BIDENS FAULT !

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 11:03 PM ET #5

    He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show. Except he calls it the Great Replacement theory. Same thing.  It's basically an old White Supremist idea that has been updated. The idea is that somehow, nonwhite people or outsiders or strangers or foreigners will overtake the United States via immigration, reproduction and seizure of political power. The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order. And in the meantime they get plenty of encouragement with the hate spewed by the GQP. That’s the immigration fear. Losing numerical advantage. It’s behind stopping abortion. IMO.

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    He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show. Except he calls it the Great Replacement theory. Same thing.  It's basically an old White Supremist idea that has been updated. The idea is that somehow, nonwhite people or outsiders or strangers or foreigners will overtake the United States via immigration, reproduction and seizure of political power. The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order. And in the meantime they get plenty of encouragement with the hate spewed by the GQP. That’s the immigration fear. Losing numerical advantage. It’s behind stopping abortion. IMO.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 11:12 PM ET #6

    I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.

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    I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 11:39 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.
    He claims that he's a far-left authoritarian. Ha! His Manifesto said one of the reasons he was doing this was to stoke liberal outrage over gun control to bring about a race war. He is just 18. I can't help thinking he must admire Kyle Rittenhouse and all the attention; he live streamed it. Between the live stream and the Manifesto, good luck with that "he's mentally incompetent" plea. It looked pretty damn premeditated to me. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.
    He claims that he's a far-left authoritarian. Ha! His Manifesto said one of the reasons he was doing this was to stoke liberal outrage over gun control to bring about a race war. He is just 18. I can't help thinking he must admire Kyle Rittenhouse and all the attention; he live streamed it. Between the live stream and the Manifesto, good luck with that "he's mentally incompetent" plea. It looked pretty damn premeditated to me. 

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 11:57 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.He claims that he's a far-left authoritarian. Ha! His Manifesto said one of the reasons he was doing this was to stoke liberal outrage over gun control to bring about a race war. He is just 18. I can't help thinking he must admire Kyle Rittenhouse and all the attention; he live streamed it. Between the live stream and the Manifesto, good luck with that "he's mentally incompetent" plea. It looked pretty damn premeditated to me.

     

    they might go with the  'juuishSPACE lazers made me do it' defense

    or possbly the infamous alex jones defense :: insisting that all those shot were really stage actors and the whole thing is fake

     

     

    but either way      ITS ALL JOE BIDENS FAULT !!! an_arsed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.He claims that he's a far-left authoritarian. Ha! His Manifesto said one of the reasons he was doing this was to stoke liberal outrage over gun control to bring about a race war. He is just 18. I can't help thinking he must admire Kyle Rittenhouse and all the attention; he live streamed it. Between the live stream and the Manifesto, good luck with that "he's mentally incompetent" plea. It looked pretty damn premeditated to me.

     

    they might go with the  'juuishSPACE lazers made me do it' defense

    or possbly the infamous alex jones defense :: insisting that all those shot were really stage actors and the whole thing is fake

     

     

    but either way      ITS ALL JOE BIDENS FAULT !!! an_arsed

     
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    @DrStrangelove

    Rittenhouse was defending himself...different scenario entirely. Besides, racial hatred is a alive and well in all races...not just the white one. 

    Also you guys are stating as fact that all Trump supporters or most of them are white supremacists poised to enact a racial war...which is, if you don't know it, total nonsense. 

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    @DrStrangelove

    Rittenhouse was defending himself...different scenario entirely. Besides, racial hatred is a alive and well in all races...not just the white one. 

    Also you guys are stating as fact that all Trump supporters or most of them are white supremacists poised to enact a racial war...which is, if you don't know it, total nonsense. 

     
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    Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings. an_light

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    Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings. an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings.

    Minorities often times are the receiving end of these mass shootings, military grade assault rifles, such as AR-15, have involved in many of these shootings. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings.

    Minorities often times are the receiving end of these mass shootings, military grade assault rifles, such as AR-15, have involved in many of these shootings. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings. Minorities often times are the receiving end of these mass shootings, military grade assault rifles, such as AR-15, have involved in many of these shootings.

    No doubt. Minorities are definitely not the shooters in these mass shootings. an_light

    I am just waiting for the typical GOP Trumper response...What about the gun violence in Chicago??? As if that is some justification for mass shootings by white supremacist loving Trumpers. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings. Minorities often times are the receiving end of these mass shootings, military grade assault rifles, such as AR-15, have involved in many of these shootings.

    No doubt. Minorities are definitely not the shooters in these mass shootings. an_light

    I am just waiting for the typical GOP Trumper response...What about the gun violence in Chicago??? As if that is some justification for mass shootings by white supremacist loving Trumpers. 

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 4:52 AM ET #13

    Hmm all this chatting about whites and blacks and nothing about the attacks on asians I wonder whose racist the people who only talks about whites vs blacks

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    Hmm all this chatting about whites and blacks and nothing about the attacks on asians I wonder whose racist the people who only talks about whites vs blacks

     
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    According to his manifesto, the shooter hated Fox network, conservatives, and anyone who opposed the Ukrainian war...so this kook was an equal opportunity whack-job. 

    The characterization of Trump supporters as white supremacists is not only inaccurate but is racist in itself...yeah, why not unfairly generalize and politicize this happening to further divide our nation while we are at it right? What about black on black murder? What about black on white murder?

    If we are going to examine the racial element, then we need to discuss ALL of the facts, not just those that YOU wish to cherry pick. Demonizing the entire white race for the acts of a psychopath is not in anyone's interest unless of course you wish to align yourself with those who want to tear it all down. 

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    According to his manifesto, the shooter hated Fox network, conservatives, and anyone who opposed the Ukrainian war...so this kook was an equal opportunity whack-job. 

    The characterization of Trump supporters as white supremacists is not only inaccurate but is racist in itself...yeah, why not unfairly generalize and politicize this happening to further divide our nation while we are at it right? What about black on black murder? What about black on white murder?

    If we are going to examine the racial element, then we need to discuss ALL of the facts, not just those that YOU wish to cherry pick. Demonizing the entire white race for the acts of a psychopath is not in anyone's interest unless of course you wish to align yourself with those who want to tear it all down. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    "We have evidence in custody right now that shows that there is some racial component to these alleged actions," says Erie County District Attorney John Flynn on the shooting that left 10 people dead and three wounded at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York. No shit...the dude drove a ton of miles to this predominately black supported grocery store.  These scumbags are piles of manure ready to explode & get their courage (sic) from their online buddies.  See something say something doesn't exist in the minds of far too many in our country.

     

    Investigation as another hate crime.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    "We have evidence in custody right now that shows that there is some racial component to these alleged actions," says Erie County District Attorney John Flynn on the shooting that left 10 people dead and three wounded at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York. No shit...the dude drove a ton of miles to this predominately black supported grocery store.  These scumbags are piles of manure ready to explode & get their courage (sic) from their online buddies.  See something say something doesn't exist in the minds of far too many in our country.

     

    Investigation as another hate crime.

     

     

     
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    The facts prove otherwise to your assertion that mass shooters are always from the white race...actually there are stats out there: 

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

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    @DeezyAZ81

    The facts prove otherwise to your assertion that mass shooters are always from the white race...actually there are stats out there: 

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 8:32 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.

     

    Then you would have just doubled your life savings, even if he isn't a voter.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    I'd bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal, but he's too young to have voted for Trump.

     

    Then you would have just doubled your life savings, even if he isn't a voter.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 8:54 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on... WTF?????  

     

    Because a certain large section of US society believes it is  a constitutional right for every angry, hostile young man to walk around with automatic weapons whenever and whereever the angry man chooses.   In some states open carry like the wild west.  With the exception being it's not a 6 chambered revolver, it's modern military style assault weapons with armor piercing rounds and high capacity mags

    And it seems it's open season on black people.

     

    Why aren't the Democrats, and especially Joe Biden  and Kamala Harris, proposing sensible gun control legislation which over 70% of NRA members are already on record saying they approve?  Why aren't the Democrats proposing to close loopholes in current laws surrounding guns, such as background checks? 

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Today Buffalo, last night Milwaukee & before that Hot Springs, Chicago, St. Louis, Indy, Paterson, Balt, Philly, Detroit, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Miami, New Orleans, Baton Rouge and on and on... WTF?????  

     

    Because a certain large section of US society believes it is  a constitutional right for every angry, hostile young man to walk around with automatic weapons whenever and whereever the angry man chooses.   In some states open carry like the wild west.  With the exception being it's not a 6 chambered revolver, it's modern military style assault weapons with armor piercing rounds and high capacity mags

    And it seems it's open season on black people.

     

    Why aren't the Democrats, and especially Joe Biden  and Kamala Harris, proposing sensible gun control legislation which over 70% of NRA members are already on record saying they approve?  Why aren't the Democrats proposing to close loopholes in current laws surrounding guns, such as background checks? 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 8:59 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show.

     

    He lived streamed his murderous white supremacist rampage but he's pleading not guilty.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show.

     

    He lived streamed his murderous white supremacist rampage but he's pleading not guilty.

     

     
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    @Zeus4par

    As we approach an economic depression, thermonuclear war, and mass incineration, electing more democrats is NOT the answer. We have bigger fish to fry...I remember reading the same things that you wrote about gun control back in the 1960s. 

    We all have a rendezvous with destiny as we are being ruled by psychopaths in both parties. If you are truly awake, you realize that fact of modern day 21st century life. 

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    As we approach an economic depression, thermonuclear war, and mass incineration, electing more democrats is NOT the answer. We have bigger fish to fry...I remember reading the same things that you wrote about gun control back in the 1960s. 

    We all have a rendezvous with destiny as we are being ruled by psychopaths in both parties. If you are truly awake, you realize that fact of modern day 21st century life. 

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 9:07 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Aronrogers:

    Hmm all this chatting about whites and blacks and nothing about the attacks on asians I wonder whose racist the people who only talks about whites vs blacks

    Did somebody drive a few hours for the sole purpose of killing Asians recently? Did I miss that one?

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    Hmm all this chatting about whites and blacks and nothing about the attacks on asians I wonder whose racist the people who only talks about whites vs blacks

    Did somebody drive a few hours for the sole purpose of killing Asians recently? Did I miss that one?

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 9:09 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people.

     

    angry  ITS ALL JOE BIDENS FAULT !!! an_arsed

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people.

     

    angry  ITS ALL JOE BIDENS FAULT !!! an_arsed

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 9:12 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Investigation as another hate crime.

    Nobody, including me, disputes that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Investigation as another hate crime.

    Nobody, including me, disputes that...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Aronrogers: Hmm all this chatting about whites and blacks and nothing about the attacks on asians I wonder whose racist the people who only talks about whites vs blacks

     

     

    Did somebody drive a few hours for the sole purpose of killing Asians recently? Did I miss that one?

     

    nope . never happened .  fake news according to some who support alex jones and his infowars propaganda machine . supposedly all staged by paid actors  just trying to make the cult look  racist

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronrogers: Hmm all this chatting about whites and blacks and nothing about the attacks on asians I wonder whose racist the people who only talks about whites vs blacks

     

     

    Did somebody drive a few hours for the sole purpose of killing Asians recently? Did I miss that one?

     

    nope . never happened .  fake news according to some who support alex jones and his infowars propaganda machine . supposedly all staged by paid actors  just trying to make the cult look  racist

     

     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2022 - 9:16 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show.  

     

    New York State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins wrote in a statement:

    "This targeted attack against Black Americans is not a new phenomenon in this country, and now is the time that we as a nation come together to confront this hatred."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show.  

     

    New York State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins wrote in a statement:

    "This targeted attack against Black Americans is not a new phenomenon in this country, and now is the time that we as a nation come together to confront this hatred."

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