And this was set in place by arranging for planes to crash into buildings as opposed to simply arranging for a bombing in times square.
Amazing who much smarter they are than we.
Oh my god, he's blind. What a shame!
And this was set in place by arranging for planes to crash into buildings as opposed to simply arranging for a bombing in times square.
Amazing who much smarter they are than we.
Oh my god, he's blind. What a shame!
And this was set in place by arranging for planes to crash into buildings as opposed to simply arranging for a bombing in times square.
Amazing who much smarter they are than we.
Oh my god, he's blind. What a shame!
Have any of you guys seen zeitgeist ?
They actually have some pretty compelling evidence about the type of engine that came out of the pentagon. Also the size of the damage to the building was much less than a 757 wingspan and they even have un burnt chairs and desks right next to the damaged area.
Have any of you guys seen zeitgeist ?
They actually have some pretty compelling evidence about the type of engine that came out of the pentagon. Also the size of the damage to the building was much less than a 757 wingspan and they even have un burnt chairs and desks right next to the damaged area.
What else did you "learn" from this genius?
What else did you "learn" from this genius?
What always bothered me was how quickly they had photos, names, back stories, dossiers, all kinds of info about each of the hijackers within a day of the attack. Thought it strange.
What always bothered me was how quickly they had photos, names, back stories, dossiers, all kinds of info about each of the hijackers within a day of the attack. Thought it strange.
One other thing, what hutch said about no experts or structural engineers etc. supporting the idea that the towers couldn't have fallen as officially stated is complete bullshit. There are numerous experts on both sides of that debate.
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Then post a link coward.
One other thing, what hutch said about no experts or structural engineers etc. supporting the idea that the towers couldn't have fallen as officially stated is complete bullshit. There are numerous experts on both sides of that debate.
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Then post a link coward.
Nobody mentioned anything in this thread about three key points: the dumping of airline stocks in the days before, the withdrawl of WTC security guards before any impact, and the possibility of advanced thermite as explosives.
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Evidence of thermite being involved? Where is it?
WTC security withdrawls before impact, but hundreds of firemen and other folks enter the building and sacrifice their lives. Makes a ton of sense.
Nobody mentioned anything in this thread about three key points: the dumping of airline stocks in the days before, the withdrawl of WTC security guards before any impact, and the possibility of advanced thermite as explosives.
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Evidence of thermite being involved? Where is it?
WTC security withdrawls before impact, but hundreds of firemen and other folks enter the building and sacrifice their lives. Makes a ton of sense.
They actually have some pretty compelling evidence about the type of engine that came out of the pentagon.
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zeitgeist
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=98970
They actually have some pretty compelling evidence about the type of engine that came out of the pentagon.
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zeitgeist
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=98970
And feel free to post the "compelling evidence" in regards to the type of engine that came out of the pentagon.
Notice how all the conspiracy people who have posted in this thread haven't posted one shred of evidence. LMAO.
All they say is WTC #7. Or "pretty compelling evidence" (without posting it, BTW), or "some things didn't add up for me" (without saying what specifically didn't add up). And saying there were experts who disagreed that the planes brought the buildings down (but posting no links to those expert opinions).
And feel free to post the "compelling evidence" in regards to the type of engine that came out of the pentagon.
Notice how all the conspiracy people who have posted in this thread haven't posted one shred of evidence. LMAO.
All they say is WTC #7. Or "pretty compelling evidence" (without posting it, BTW), or "some things didn't add up for me" (without saying what specifically didn't add up). And saying there were experts who disagreed that the planes brought the buildings down (but posting no links to those expert opinions).
Have any of you guys seen zeitgeist ?
They actually have some pretty compelling evidence about the type of engine that came out of the pentagon. Also the size of the damage to the building was much less than a 757 wingspan and they even have un burnt chairs and desks right next to the damaged area.
Have any of you guys seen zeitgeist ?
They actually have some pretty compelling evidence about the type of engine that came out of the pentagon. Also the size of the damage to the building was much less than a 757 wingspan and they even have un burnt chairs and desks right next to the damaged area.
By the way, they identified all but one of the bodies of the people who died at the pentagon. I suppose all the medical staff.....the coroner....emergency personnel.....technicians.....they were in on it as well.
Evidence that the thermite argument is B.S.
https://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/04/real-world-tests-cut-through-steel.html
By the way, they identified all but one of the bodies of the people who died at the pentagon. I suppose all the medical staff.....the coroner....emergency personnel.....technicians.....they were in on it as well.
Evidence that the thermite argument is B.S.
https://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/04/real-world-tests-cut-through-steel.html
And educated person who basically says exactly what the experts say.
And educated person who basically says exactly what the experts say.
I would like to nominate : HutchEmAll - for "Most dedicated specific thread contributor of the month". Seriously !
Too bad Covers.com doesn't actually award members for this.
If anyone was "on the fence", about the 9/11 tragedy and possible "inside job plausibility"...Hutch seems to have provided 'nuff for you to STFU.
IMHO !
God bless those lost and God bless their sympathizers !
I would like to nominate : HutchEmAll - for "Most dedicated specific thread contributor of the month". Seriously !
Too bad Covers.com doesn't actually award members for this.
If anyone was "on the fence", about the 9/11 tragedy and possible "inside job plausibility"...Hutch seems to have provided 'nuff for you to STFU.
IMHO !
God bless those lost and God bless their sympathizers !
Should be tensile strength. Otherwise, spot on. Other explanations for the "explosions" compressed air excaping as the floors subsequently pancaked down.
Should be tensile strength. Otherwise, spot on. Other explanations for the "explosions" compressed air excaping as the floors subsequently pancaked down.
You pretty much know the deal when you ask for specifics and people disappear into the woodwork. I'm all for a good discussion, but whatever happened to the facts?
OakleyDoak-
This same thread was created last year and was interesting so I decided to do some research. It was fascinating so I just ended up reading a ton of material on it. If you read the criticisms of "Loose Change," you find out that there is about a 100 legitimate forensic questions that never are even answered by those frauds. How could the US government pay off the 100's or 1000's of engineers and technicians who all say the same thing.....that it was terrorism?
Still waiting for the experts (with any reputation) to provide evidence that this was an inside job.
You pretty much know the deal when you ask for specifics and people disappear into the woodwork. I'm all for a good discussion, but whatever happened to the facts?
OakleyDoak-
This same thread was created last year and was interesting so I decided to do some research. It was fascinating so I just ended up reading a ton of material on it. If you read the criticisms of "Loose Change," you find out that there is about a 100 legitimate forensic questions that never are even answered by those frauds. How could the US government pay off the 100's or 1000's of engineers and technicians who all say the same thing.....that it was terrorism?
Still waiting for the experts (with any reputation) to provide evidence that this was an inside job.
Originally Posted by steveshane67:
didnt read the entire thread, didnt want to risk getting an aneurysm reading all the CT BS.
im a civil engineer, the day after 9/11, in structures class, our professor told us an anecdote from the 80's. basically the CE community realized that skyscrapers would not be able to withstand an airplane collision. they were designed to face a great number of forces, airplanes not being one, so skyscrapers were then built with basically an interior corridor that would protect from a airplane strike.
to those claiming there were explosions in the lower floors. i wasnt there but i would bet a large sum of money that there were explosions. you know what caused them?? no, not TNT or gov't planted devices, but the F*CKING thousands of gallons of fuel that were on the plane!!!!! i really dont see why its a hard concept to understand. when the plane hit the tower, i would assume the fuselage leaked, gravity dictates the gas falls down. now you have all this gas collecting somewhere on the floors below and all you need is an ignition source and boom, explosion.
finally, to those that say the fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel.... you dont need to completely melt the steel for it to fail, its not like it goes from perfectly normal, than all of a sudden hits a certain temperature and disintegrates. when the steel is heated, it loses compressive strength, the hotter it gets, the more strength it loses. just think of eating taffy on a summer day. when you first get it, it may be fairly rigid. leave it out in the sun for a while, and it becomes fairly squishy.
Originally Posted by Hutchemall;
"An educated person who basically says exactly what the experts say. "
Yeah that looked like a real educated answer.....Jet fuel found a way to escape the initial blast and waited for another source to ignite. Somehow it even made it's way to the basement.
What I would like to know is .....
How can the most secure building on the planet [ the pentagon ] NOT have a clear picture of a PLANE hitting the building?....Please tell me that it is confidential.
How could a pilot that could barely fly a 2 seater ....maneuver a huge passenger plane perfectly into a building about a foot off the ground when the law of gravity makes it impossible to do so without hitting the ground first at the velocity and angle shown?
How did such a big plane make such a tiny hole?
I read where there was about a 90 min. time span between when the U.S. became aware of planes being hi-jacked and the pentagon being hit......Where were the fighter jets and who was in charge of them?.....Oh yeah...Dick Cheney
It was sure lucky that Larry Silverstein got an insurance policy against terrorist attacks about 2 weeks earlier.
$7,000,000,000
"Pull It" IS a demolition term also.
Fire caused building 7 to come down like that.
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I'm not saying it was an inside job.....Just looking for reasonable answers.
Originally Posted by steveshane67:
didnt read the entire thread, didnt want to risk getting an aneurysm reading all the CT BS.
im a civil engineer, the day after 9/11, in structures class, our professor told us an anecdote from the 80's. basically the CE community realized that skyscrapers would not be able to withstand an airplane collision. they were designed to face a great number of forces, airplanes not being one, so skyscrapers were then built with basically an interior corridor that would protect from a airplane strike.
to those claiming there were explosions in the lower floors. i wasnt there but i would bet a large sum of money that there were explosions. you know what caused them?? no, not TNT or gov't planted devices, but the F*CKING thousands of gallons of fuel that were on the plane!!!!! i really dont see why its a hard concept to understand. when the plane hit the tower, i would assume the fuselage leaked, gravity dictates the gas falls down. now you have all this gas collecting somewhere on the floors below and all you need is an ignition source and boom, explosion.
finally, to those that say the fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel.... you dont need to completely melt the steel for it to fail, its not like it goes from perfectly normal, than all of a sudden hits a certain temperature and disintegrates. when the steel is heated, it loses compressive strength, the hotter it gets, the more strength it loses. just think of eating taffy on a summer day. when you first get it, it may be fairly rigid. leave it out in the sun for a while, and it becomes fairly squishy.
Originally Posted by Hutchemall;
"An educated person who basically says exactly what the experts say. "
Yeah that looked like a real educated answer.....Jet fuel found a way to escape the initial blast and waited for another source to ignite. Somehow it even made it's way to the basement.
What I would like to know is .....
How can the most secure building on the planet [ the pentagon ] NOT have a clear picture of a PLANE hitting the building?....Please tell me that it is confidential.
How could a pilot that could barely fly a 2 seater ....maneuver a huge passenger plane perfectly into a building about a foot off the ground when the law of gravity makes it impossible to do so without hitting the ground first at the velocity and angle shown?
How did such a big plane make such a tiny hole?
I read where there was about a 90 min. time span between when the U.S. became aware of planes being hi-jacked and the pentagon being hit......Where were the fighter jets and who was in charge of them?.....Oh yeah...Dick Cheney
It was sure lucky that Larry Silverstein got an insurance policy against terrorist attacks about 2 weeks earlier.
$7,000,000,000
"Pull It" IS a demolition term also.
Fire caused building 7 to come down like that.
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I'm not saying it was an inside job.....Just looking for reasonable answers.
Feel free to answer a question by yourself ....Or is that possible?
Feel free to answer a question by yourself ....Or is that possible?
What always bothered me was how quickly they had photos, names, back stories, dossiers, all kinds of info about each of the hijackers within a day of the attack. Thought it strange.
What always bothered me was how quickly they had photos, names, back stories, dossiers, all kinds of info about each of the hijackers within a day of the attack. Thought it strange.
What else did you "learn" from this genius?
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What else did you "learn" from this genius?
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