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    cd329
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:13 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by kushBsmokin:

    cd329......here it is

     

    Thanks for the link, lot of good posts in that thread. Vanzack has been lucky that he hasnt lost his whole bankroll in one day putting the whole thing into play.  Gotta remember tomorrows games arent going to be any better then todays games, why risk all your money in one day.  I have seen tons of guys go 0-10 on the day, hell i have done. If you lose all your money, you got nothing to bet with the next day.  But like he even says in his thread, hes willing to lose his whole bankroll in one day. I guess thats okay if you have a well behind you, but not really the smartest idea.

    good luck to you

    cd

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    Quote Originally Posted by kushBsmokin:

    cd329......here it is

     

    Thanks for the link, lot of good posts in that thread. Vanzack has been lucky that he hasnt lost his whole bankroll in one day putting the whole thing into play.  Gotta remember tomorrows games arent going to be any better then todays games, why risk all your money in one day.  I have seen tons of guys go 0-10 on the day, hell i have done. If you lose all your money, you got nothing to bet with the next day.  But like he even says in his thread, hes willing to lose his whole bankroll in one day. I guess thats okay if you have a well behind you, but not really the smartest idea.

    good luck to you

    cd

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:20 PM ET #52

    who is ibgone?,,,,
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    who is ibgone?,,,,
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:55 PM ET #53

    The proper thing to do if you have 50 bets that you want to make is to divide those 50 bets into how much bankroll you are willing to risk in a single day.

    I can't believe I just read such horse shit.......

    To bet equally amongst 50 bets, amongst a certain amount of BR is just plain retarded. A complete waste of resources.

    Do you even know what you're talking about?

    Let me read the rest of the garbage in this thread..... I'm sure I'll have more to say.
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    The proper thing to do if you have 50 bets that you want to make is to divide those 50 bets into how much bankroll you are willing to risk in a single day.

    I can't believe I just read such horse shit.......

    To bet equally amongst 50 bets, amongst a certain amount of BR is just plain retarded. A complete waste of resources.

    Do you even know what you're talking about?

    Let me read the rest of the garbage in this thread..... I'm sure I'll have more to say.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:58 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

     

    for one you are talking about exploiting moneylines so of course your bets will be differnt based on the lines, where as am talking about betting into pointspreads laying a straight 105 or 110.  In that case all your bets really should be the same.  This is where so many bettors lose. They bet 10 games and 8 of the games are for 100 bucks a piece and 2 of them are for 500 a piece. The 8 100 buck plays win and the 2 500 dollar plays lose.  Guy goes 8-2 and still loses money because of piss poor money management.

    Why not post some of these so called plays you can get from your sharp friends?



    there is a big difference if I cap a pk em game @ -4 and a -3 game @ -9. Do you understand that.

    And I do not post their plays because they are their plays and not mine.

    I see you've posted plenty more. Looks like I have a good laugh ahead of me
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

     

    for one you are talking about exploiting moneylines so of course your bets will be differnt based on the lines, where as am talking about betting into pointspreads laying a straight 105 or 110.  In that case all your bets really should be the same.  This is where so many bettors lose. They bet 10 games and 8 of the games are for 100 bucks a piece and 2 of them are for 500 a piece. The 8 100 buck plays win and the 2 500 dollar plays lose.  Guy goes 8-2 and still loses money because of piss poor money management.

    Why not post some of these so called plays you can get from your sharp friends?



    there is a big difference if I cap a pk em game @ -4 and a -3 game @ -9. Do you understand that.

    And I do not post their plays because they are their plays and not mine.

    I see you've posted plenty more. Looks like I have a good laugh ahead of me
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:04 PM ET #55

    amazing only 5-10 percent fo all gamblers in the world actually win gambling, yet we have all these geniuses here on covers winning millions with their gambling knowledge. 
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    amazing only 5-10 percent fo all gamblers in the world actually win gambling, yet we have all these geniuses here on covers winning millions with their gambling knowledge. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:06 PM ET #56

    if you have 10 plays and 9 of them are 2 percent plays then the bet size should be 10 bucks for each play and the 5 percent play should be 25 bucks.

    Ok.......

    So you're telling me that one play is 150% more likely than the other 9 to hit?

    Why not just bet all of the money on the only LOCK and fuck the rest?
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    if you have 10 plays and 9 of them are 2 percent plays then the bet size should be 10 bucks for each play and the 5 percent play should be 25 bucks.

    Ok.......

    So you're telling me that one play is 150% more likely than the other 9 to hit?

    Why not just bet all of the money on the only LOCK and fuck the rest?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:08 PM ET #57

    Where is Titan when we need a curb stomp?


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    Where is Titan when we need a curb stomp?


     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:09 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:



    there is a big difference if I cap a pk em game @ -4 and a -3 game @ -9. Do you understand that.

    And I do not post their plays because they are their plays and not mine.

    I see you've posted plenty more. Looks like I have a good laugh ahead of me

     

    well of course if you one cap one pickem game at -3 and the other one at -9, the -9 one looks like a better play.  But sorry my friend thats only how it look on paper.  Like i have said earlier, so many times peoples big plays lose and their little plays win.  But hey please just keep doing whats making you millions betting. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:



    there is a big difference if I cap a pk em game @ -4 and a -3 game @ -9. Do you understand that.

    And I do not post their plays because they are their plays and not mine.

    I see you've posted plenty more. Looks like I have a good laugh ahead of me

     

    well of course if you one cap one pickem game at -3 and the other one at -9, the -9 one looks like a better play.  But sorry my friend thats only how it look on paper.  Like i have said earlier, so many times peoples big plays lose and their little plays win.  But hey please just keep doing whats making you millions betting. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:13 PM ET #59

    Regarding the long winded article the simple answer is bet using the Kelly method. It is mathematically proven to be the best way to exploit your edge and minimises your loses.

    Read up on it before you post anymore in this thread
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    Regarding the long winded article the simple answer is bet using the Kelly method. It is mathematically proven to be the best way to exploit your edge and minimises your loses.

    Read up on it before you post anymore in this thread
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:13 PM ET #60

    Gotta remember tomorrows games arent going to be any better then todays games, why risk all your money in one day.

    No where close to being true......

    What a fucking ridiculous statement.

    You mean to tell me that if there are 10 games on today's slate, and 5 of them are 5+ points off from your power rankings, and then tomorrows games are all dead on, or within a point, you wouldn't want to risk more on games where the lines are significantly off on the numbers you trust, as opposed to laying equal amounts on tight lines?
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    Gotta remember tomorrows games arent going to be any better then todays games, why risk all your money in one day.

    No where close to being true......

    What a fucking ridiculous statement.

    You mean to tell me that if there are 10 games on today's slate, and 5 of them are 5+ points off from your power rankings, and then tomorrows games are all dead on, or within a point, you wouldn't want to risk more on games where the lines are significantly off on the numbers you trust, as opposed to laying equal amounts on tight lines?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:14 PM ET #61

    you know whats really funny about this whole thread?  I can give 2 shits about the money management you use or dont use.
    Thisthread was about matrixx and other posters posting fake bet sizes and what is their reason for doing it.
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    you know whats really funny about this whole thread?  I can give 2 shits about the money management you use or dont use.
    Thisthread was about matrixx and other posters posting fake bet sizes and what is their reason for doing it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:18 PM ET #62

    You know whats really funny about this thread.....

    cd329 got owned by ALL


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    You know whats really funny about this thread.....

    cd329 got owned by ALL


     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:25 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by hoopsstar22:

    Gotta remember tomorrows games arent going to be any better then todays games, why risk all your money in one day.

    No where close to being true......

    What a fucking ridiculous statement.

    You mean to tell me that if there are 10 games on today's slate, and 5 of them are 5+ points off from your power rankings, and then tomorrows games are all dead on, or within a point, you wouldn't want to risk more on games where the lines are significantly off on the numbers you trust, as opposed to laying equal amounts on tight lines?

     

    honestly some of you really must be brain dead and trying to read to far into a statement.  The point was you dont know what tomorrows games are going to bring, so why risk all your money on todays plays.

    Like i said up above i dont give a shit how any of you guys bet your games.  This isnt what the thread was about.

    So please lets get off this topic, you guys are all right and have made tons of money with your betting strategies, so keep doing what your doing.  Congrats to all you guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopsstar22:

    Gotta remember tomorrows games arent going to be any better then todays games, why risk all your money in one day.

    No where close to being true......

    What a fucking ridiculous statement.

    You mean to tell me that if there are 10 games on today's slate, and 5 of them are 5+ points off from your power rankings, and then tomorrows games are all dead on, or within a point, you wouldn't want to risk more on games where the lines are significantly off on the numbers you trust, as opposed to laying equal amounts on tight lines?

     

    honestly some of you really must be brain dead and trying to read to far into a statement.  The point was you dont know what tomorrows games are going to bring, so why risk all your money on todays plays.

    Like i said up above i dont give a shit how any of you guys bet your games.  This isnt what the thread was about.

    So please lets get off this topic, you guys are all right and have made tons of money with your betting strategies, so keep doing what your doing.  Congrats to all you guys

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:25 PM ET #64

    No you started this thread laughing at Martixxx's bet amounts, fair enough. In your opening post you also offered

    "They say you shouldnt risk more then 10 percent of your bankroll in one day, which if you go by that he would have a gambling bankroll of 880,000"

    You tried to back up this statement with mindless bullshit after you were questioned over it. Back-pedal all you like, but your comment about limiting to 10% in one day made you look like an idiot.

    One of the reasons you posted this in the box is you probably believe we are all a bunch of dumbasses in here. How wrong you were.

    Nest time, if you are going to bash somebody make sure you know what you are talking about
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    No you started this thread laughing at Martixxx's bet amounts, fair enough. In your opening post you also offered

    "They say you shouldnt risk more then 10 percent of your bankroll in one day, which if you go by that he would have a gambling bankroll of 880,000"

    You tried to back up this statement with mindless bullshit after you were questioned over it. Back-pedal all you like, but your comment about limiting to 10% in one day made you look like an idiot.

    One of the reasons you posted this in the box is you probably believe we are all a bunch of dumbasses in here. How wrong you were.

    Nest time, if you are going to bash somebody make sure you know what you are talking about
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:25 PM ET #65

    have seen tons of guys go 0-10 on the day, hell i have done.

    Is this implying that you see guys on Covers go 0-10? That's saying a whole hell of a lot.

    This is like comparing apples to oranges.

    If you saw a person that uses an aggressive MM strategy, and bets 10% per play because that coincides with his goals, and he knows long term he hits 56%, and believed that all 10 plays were 56%+ plays, then yes, you saw someone go 0-10, and lose that specific BR. He just happened to catch the wrong end of the 44%, and lost.

    But if you saw some douche that uses and all over the place, and bets on games that are only on TV, and this game because its his favorite team, and that game because someone else said to, then that 0-10 is no where near the same as the person above.

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    have seen tons of guys go 0-10 on the day, hell i have done.

    Is this implying that you see guys on Covers go 0-10? That's saying a whole hell of a lot.

    This is like comparing apples to oranges.

    If you saw a person that uses an aggressive MM strategy, and bets 10% per play because that coincides with his goals, and he knows long term he hits 56%, and believed that all 10 plays were 56%+ plays, then yes, you saw someone go 0-10, and lose that specific BR. He just happened to catch the wrong end of the 44%, and lost.

    But if you saw some douche that uses and all over the place, and bets on games that are only on TV, and this game because its his favorite team, and that game because someone else said to, then that 0-10 is no where near the same as the person above.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:29 PM ET #66

    Hey......

    We have no problem bashing the shit out of Matrixx....

    In fact, I specifically do it on almost a semi-daily basis, especially in regards to his Matrixx Dollars that he bets with.

    However, you tried to bash, and relate it to sports wagering philosophy, and that's where you went wrong.

    Two separate entities.


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    Hey......

    We have no problem bashing the shit out of Matrixx....

    In fact, I specifically do it on almost a semi-daily basis, especially in regards to his Matrixx Dollars that he bets with.

    However, you tried to bash, and relate it to sports wagering philosophy, and that's where you went wrong.

    Two separate entities.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:29 PM ET #67

    save your breath guys.

    cd329 is too fucking stupid to know or admit when he is wrong.


    Next time I have 10% of my roll in play and a line shifts five points in my favor, I'll think back to this thread and remember not to risk going above that critical 10% of my bankroll number for the day and lay off the bet.


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    save your breath guys.

    cd329 is too fucking stupid to know or admit when he is wrong.


    Next time I have 10% of my roll in play and a line shifts five points in my favor, I'll think back to this thread and remember not to risk going above that critical 10% of my bankroll number for the day and lay off the bet.


     
    NONEED4LUCK
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:29 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by kushBsmokin:

    You know whats really funny about this thread.....

    cd329 got owned by ALL


    pretty good stuff kush. i was actually looking for that post by vanzack. this guy has a hard on for me and it will be nice to see what he says after I popped up. it's nice toknow I am not the only one who owns cd

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    Quote Originally Posted by kushBsmokin:

    You know whats really funny about this thread.....

    cd329 got owned by ALL


    pretty good stuff kush. i was actually looking for that post by vanzack. this guy has a hard on for me and it will be nice to see what he says after I popped up. it's nice toknow I am not the only one who owns cd

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:30 PM ET #69

    save your breath guys.

    cd329 is too fucking stupid to know or admit when he is wrong.


    Next time I have 10% of my roll in play and a line shifts five points in my favor, I'll think back to this thread and remember not to risk going above that critical 10% of my bankroll number for the day and lay off the bet.


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    save your breath guys.

    cd329 is too fucking stupid to know or admit when he is wrong.


    Next time I have 10% of my roll in play and a line shifts five points in my favor, I'll think back to this thread and remember not to risk going above that critical 10% of my bankroll number for the day and lay off the bet.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:39 PM ET #70

    The exact numbers and percentages can be debated but cd's thinking is 100% correct.

    Anyone that continues to put a large chunk of their bankroll into play in one day will eventually get wiped out and will be reloading their account. A lot of people are doing this but will never admit it.

    You can argue what % of bankroll should be in play. Maybe 10% is very low. 30% would be on the very high end and I think it would depend on how many games you feel you have an advantage on that given day.

    Bash cd all you want. But he is correct with his thinking.


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    The exact numbers and percentages can be debated but cd's thinking is 100% correct.

    Anyone that continues to put a large chunk of their bankroll into play in one day will eventually get wiped out and will be reloading their account. A lot of people are doing this but will never admit it.

    You can argue what % of bankroll should be in play. Maybe 10% is very low. 30% would be on the very high end and I think it would depend on how many games you feel you have an advantage on that given day.

    Bash cd all you want. But he is correct with his thinking.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:39 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by GAM:

    save your breath guys.

    cd329 is too fucking stupid to know or admit when he is wrong.




    Its good to be able to remain coherent and keep the brain rolling, even when I'm 6 Cantinas deep.

    It just proves the fact that I have spent countless hours embedding vital information deep inside my brain, that not even a few brews will lodge loose.

    Being able to operate under the most extreme conditions is just preparation for the future, when things will really count. I'll never lose site of my goals, and ideas I believe fit my wagering style the best.


    Cantina ------->  <------ Corona knock-off
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAM:

    save your breath guys.

    cd329 is too fucking stupid to know or admit when he is wrong.




    Its good to be able to remain coherent and keep the brain rolling, even when I'm 6 Cantinas deep.

    It just proves the fact that I have spent countless hours embedding vital information deep inside my brain, that not even a few brews will lodge loose.

    Being able to operate under the most extreme conditions is just preparation for the future, when things will really count. I'll never lose site of my goals, and ideas I believe fit my wagering style the best.


    Cantina ------->  <------ Corona knock-off
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:42 PM ET #72


    Cantina ------->   <------ Corona knock-off
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    Cantina ------->   <------ Corona knock-off
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seahawk97:

    The exact numbers and percentages can be debated but cd's thinking is 100% correct.

    Anyone that continues to put a large chunk of their bankroll into play in one day will eventually get wiped out and will be reloading their account. A lot of people are doing this but will never admit it.

    You can argue what % of bankroll should be in play. Maybe 10% is very low. 30% would be on the very high end and I think it would depend on how many games you feel you have an advantage on that given day.

    Bash cd all you want. But he is correct with his thinking.




    ummm, no he is not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seahawk97:

    The exact numbers and percentages can be debated but cd's thinking is 100% correct.

    Anyone that continues to put a large chunk of their bankroll into play in one day will eventually get wiped out and will be reloading their account. A lot of people are doing this but will never admit it.

    You can argue what % of bankroll should be in play. Maybe 10% is very low. 30% would be on the very high end and I think it would depend on how many games you feel you have an advantage on that given day.

    Bash cd all you want. But he is correct with his thinking.




    ummm, no he is not
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:47 PM ET #74

    Maybe some of you just dont know how to read.  Did i say any of the money management plans were my own?  Hell i said i dont even follow them myself, i wish i did but i dont. I think you guys are trying to twist what my first post was meant to mean.  When i said matrixx was risking 88k in one day, i didnt realize how many of you posters risk the majority of your bankrolls in one day.  You see the 10 to 20 percent thing was trying to confirm matrixxs bullshit, but i can see now most of you all bet more then 20 percent of your bankroll in one day, so i guess in theory matrixx could be doing the same thing today.  Maybe now you will understand what i was trying to say.
     
    Now with that all said, all you gambling gurus who love to throw out all this gambling knowledge {like gam}.  then lets see your big money making strategies that you use.  Post your plays everyday with the amounts your betting {even if the amounts are bullshit} and lets see how your money management plan works out for lets say 6 months.
    Its easy to just how successful you are all doing, so prove it.
    Gam i really want to see your money managment plan on the games, because i would bet everything i have you are just another broke gambler trying to act like a bigshot.
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    Maybe some of you just dont know how to read.  Did i say any of the money management plans were my own?  Hell i said i dont even follow them myself, i wish i did but i dont. I think you guys are trying to twist what my first post was meant to mean.  When i said matrixx was risking 88k in one day, i didnt realize how many of you posters risk the majority of your bankrolls in one day.  You see the 10 to 20 percent thing was trying to confirm matrixxs bullshit, but i can see now most of you all bet more then 20 percent of your bankroll in one day, so i guess in theory matrixx could be doing the same thing today.  Maybe now you will understand what i was trying to say.
     
    Now with that all said, all you gambling gurus who love to throw out all this gambling knowledge {like gam}.  then lets see your big money making strategies that you use.  Post your plays everyday with the amounts your betting {even if the amounts are bullshit} and lets see how your money management plan works out for lets say 6 months.
    Its easy to just how successful you are all doing, so prove it.
    Gam i really want to see your money managment plan on the games, because i would bet everything i have you are just another broke gambler trying to act like a bigshot.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:50 PM ET #75

    oh yeah i almost forgot
     
    NONEEDFORLUCK, Shouldnt you be at daddys dealership fuckin some little old lady out of her life savings buying a car from you.  Oh yeah lets not forgot the screw job you give selling those warranty plans.
     
    You my friend just dont know when to quit, but you will learn soon enough.
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    oh yeah i almost forgot
     
    NONEEDFORLUCK, Shouldnt you be at daddys dealership fuckin some little old lady out of her life savings buying a car from you.  Oh yeah lets not forgot the screw job you give selling those warranty plans.
     
    You my friend just dont know when to quit, but you will learn soon enough.
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