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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 2:00 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by St2ee:

    Suuma 

    I sense we have a big week coming buddy.  When we agree  The bookies flee!!!

    I read both of you guys's write ups each week and take into consideration your plays. BOL to both of you this week 
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    Quote Originally Posted by St2ee:

    Suuma 

    I sense we have a big week coming buddy.  When we agree  The bookies flee!!!

    I read both of you guys's write ups each week and take into consideration your plays. BOL to both of you this week 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 4:13 AM ET #27

    Good thoughts fellas! Will try to get back to everyone throughout the day.
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    Good thoughts fellas! Will try to get back to everyone throughout the day.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 4:45 AM ET #28

    BOL SUUMA
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 5:28 AM ET #29

    ...tailing as always...guide me to profit once more
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 8:55 AM ET #30

    That was a great read suuma, thanks for the insight...and always nice to see a fellow German here
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    That was a great read suuma, thanks for the insight...and always nice to see a fellow German here
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 9:30 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    What are your thoughts on NE -8.5 @ DAL and NYG -7.5/7 vs. SF? I agree with ARI and CIN. 

    I think NYG will easily win vs. SF who are one of the worst NFL teams. NYG may be a bit under rated and they have not played their best ball. OBJ could go off, NYG defense looked solid last week. 

    I am not sure about KC especially as 9/9.5 favorites. I think it is possible that they are not a good team in general. Bears can score.


    I was leaning Dallas all week long but my principle of not taking a replacement QB against an elite QB combined with the fact that Randy Gregory won't line up and Hardy talked trash about Gisele held me back at the end.

    Teams who won by 30+ before more > 10 days rest have gone 15-14 SU, 10-17 ATS. Road teams are 1-9 SU and 1-9 ATS during the reg season since 1989. The Patriots still have a porous defense and Brandon Weeden has put up 7.72 NYPPA. They will try to run to keep Tom Brady as much sidelined as they can and I've got no doubt that Weeden is able to expose this secondary at times. On the other side the Cowboys get Greg Hardy and McClain back, Sean Lee is also ready to go. They have a pretty good front seven that should cause some troubles against the young Patriots OL and those short passes. The Patriots are in the best position when they have a lead, but if the Cowboys try to attack them early they have a good chance to wear them down in the second half.

    Also I've seen a lot comments about the Cowboys having a bad matchup with their secondary against the Patriots. Since when does it matter whether you have a good secondary or not against Tom Brady?? This offense is built to not be dependent on the opposite secondary, like we have seen against Denver, Seattle and Buffalo. You have to keep TB sidelined and try to set up a pass rush combined with good coverage around the line of scrimmage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    What are your thoughts on NE -8.5 @ DAL and NYG -7.5/7 vs. SF? I agree with ARI and CIN. 

    I think NYG will easily win vs. SF who are one of the worst NFL teams. NYG may be a bit under rated and they have not played their best ball. OBJ could go off, NYG defense looked solid last week. 

    I am not sure about KC especially as 9/9.5 favorites. I think it is possible that they are not a good team in general. Bears can score.


    I was leaning Dallas all week long but my principle of not taking a replacement QB against an elite QB combined with the fact that Randy Gregory won't line up and Hardy talked trash about Gisele held me back at the end.

    Teams who won by 30+ before more > 10 days rest have gone 15-14 SU, 10-17 ATS. Road teams are 1-9 SU and 1-9 ATS during the reg season since 1989. The Patriots still have a porous defense and Brandon Weeden has put up 7.72 NYPPA. They will try to run to keep Tom Brady as much sidelined as they can and I've got no doubt that Weeden is able to expose this secondary at times. On the other side the Cowboys get Greg Hardy and McClain back, Sean Lee is also ready to go. They have a pretty good front seven that should cause some troubles against the young Patriots OL and those short passes. The Patriots are in the best position when they have a lead, but if the Cowboys try to attack them early they have a good chance to wear them down in the second half.

    Also I've seen a lot comments about the Cowboys having a bad matchup with their secondary against the Patriots. Since when does it matter whether you have a good secondary or not against Tom Brady?? This offense is built to not be dependent on the opposite secondary, like we have seen against Denver, Seattle and Buffalo. You have to keep TB sidelined and try to set up a pass rush combined with good coverage around the line of scrimmage.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 9:32 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    What are your thoughts on NE -8.5 @ DAL and NYG -7.5/7 vs. SF? I agree with ARI and CIN. 

    I think NYG will easily win vs. SF who are one of the worst NFL teams. NYG may be a bit under rated and they have not played their best ball. OBJ could go off, NYG defense looked solid last week. 

    I am not sure about KC especially as 9/9.5 favorites. I think it is possible that they are not a good team in general. Bears can score.


    Niners season is on the line on prime time while the Giants have been playing much better than I expected. There are no logical reasons to take the Niners IMO. I am considering taking the Giants in a teaser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    What are your thoughts on NE -8.5 @ DAL and NYG -7.5/7 vs. SF? I agree with ARI and CIN. 

    I think NYG will easily win vs. SF who are one of the worst NFL teams. NYG may be a bit under rated and they have not played their best ball. OBJ could go off, NYG defense looked solid last week. 

    I am not sure about KC especially as 9/9.5 favorites. I think it is possible that they are not a good team in general. Bears can score.


    Niners season is on the line on prime time while the Giants have been playing much better than I expected. There are no logical reasons to take the Niners IMO. I am considering taking the Giants in a teaser.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:00 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    Also Eagles have not been consistent. NO could be getting some mojo back and if they work Spiller a lot more it could improve their offense quite a bit. Eagles have the talent on offense but you trust Bradford to play better? Eagles should cover based on the talent difference but there may be easier games to cap.


    Saints weren't consistent either. This is probably the worst defense right now with a banged up OL against a stout front seven off an overtime win before a TNF clash with the 4-0 Falcons. No way I could touch the Saints. This is the perfect spot/opponent for the Eagles to win comfortably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    Also Eagles have not been consistent. NO could be getting some mojo back and if they work Spiller a lot more it could improve their offense quite a bit. Eagles have the talent on offense but you trust Bradford to play better? Eagles should cover based on the talent difference but there may be easier games to cap.


    Saints weren't consistent either. This is probably the worst defense right now with a banged up OL against a stout front seven off an overtime win before a TNF clash with the 4-0 Falcons. No way I could touch the Saints. This is the perfect spot/opponent for the Eagles to win comfortably.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:00 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by FunkFreaker:

    suuma Great writeups. One of the few guys i check here. On Chiefs side also. BOL


    Let's get them bud
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    suuma Great writeups. One of the few guys i check here. On Chiefs side also. BOL


    Let's get them bud
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:02 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    As you know I'm all over that KC play. That Andy Reid stat is gold(thanks for providing that for me earlier this week)

    You forgot to mention that the Bears starting center is out w/ a broken leg. Rookie Hroniss Grasu will be making his first NFL start at center...he didn't even dress last week. And it's in arrowhead(a very loud stadium) where he is in charge of calling out blocking schemes to his line mates?! To add to their problems, Bushrod has been ruled out again at left tackle. Leno JR. is going to get steam rolled by Justin Houston.

    This is my favorite play to date in the NFL. Every which way I look at this game, everything points to KC.


    BTW the SOS rankings have been updated

    KC #1    BEARS#6

    CINCI #20   Seattle #17

    AZ #31  DETROIT #4

    BOL on your plays Suuma


    Sorry I forgot that to add to my write-up, thank you.

    Are those SOS rankings based on win percentage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    As you know I'm all over that KC play. That Andy Reid stat is gold(thanks for providing that for me earlier this week)

    You forgot to mention that the Bears starting center is out w/ a broken leg. Rookie Hroniss Grasu will be making his first NFL start at center...he didn't even dress last week. And it's in arrowhead(a very loud stadium) where he is in charge of calling out blocking schemes to his line mates?! To add to their problems, Bushrod has been ruled out again at left tackle. Leno JR. is going to get steam rolled by Justin Houston.

    This is my favorite play to date in the NFL. Every which way I look at this game, everything points to KC.


    BTW the SOS rankings have been updated

    KC #1    BEARS#6

    CINCI #20   Seattle #17

    AZ #31  DETROIT #4

    BOL on your plays Suuma


    Sorry I forgot that to add to my write-up, thank you.

    Are those SOS rankings based on win percentage?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:09 AM ET #36

    Bengals are a very interesting team this week. Remember last year ? Bengals open the season 3-0, winning by 7, 14 and then 26, the following week the play a very good team in the Pats who at the time were in a free-fall, offense playing terrible and they really needed a win.

    What happened next, Pats crushed the Bengals 43-17.

    Almost identical situation this season, Bengals 4-0 and playing a very good team that is in a free-fall, not as good as past 2 years and  they really need a win........ will the Bengals have learned anything from last season ?

    We'll learn alot about this team on Sunday.
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    Bengals are a very interesting team this week. Remember last year ? Bengals open the season 3-0, winning by 7, 14 and then 26, the following week the play a very good team in the Pats who at the time were in a free-fall, offense playing terrible and they really needed a win.

    What happened next, Pats crushed the Bengals 43-17.

    Almost identical situation this season, Bengals 4-0 and playing a very good team that is in a free-fall, not as good as past 2 years and  they really need a win........ will the Bengals have learned anything from last season ?

    We'll learn alot about this team on Sunday.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:11 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    Suuma you mentioned that KC did well against KC but Denver offense has not been doing well especially beginning of the year. No run game established until last week and Manning not doing much on offense. You can't use that. 

    I think KC offense is not that good. Alex Smith is not a slinger. Maclin only does well because KC has been down the past two games. Kelce isn't even used properly. 

    How has KC defense been this year?

    Though reading the loss of the center, LT helps. Also Rolle being likely out. I might choose KC but only if I don't see better games.


    The Broncos had two successful drives when I remember right along with one at the end where the Chiefs had some weird prevent play-calling. Just like the Panthers before halftime against the Jaguars.

    The Chiefs defense has been good during the first two games but the last two games on the road against two teams who will probably see Championship game appearances deflated their numbers and outcome A LOT. This is basically the same defense like last season who lost Phillip Gaines but got guys back just like Derrick Johnson. They will look a lot better in the future, starting tomorrow.

    Recent Bears injury report:

    Alan Ball LP Questionable
    Jermon Bushrod Out
    Jay Cutler LP Questionable
    Jimmy Clausen LP Questionable
    Alshon Jeffery DNP Questionable
    Kyle Long LP Questionable
    Shea McClellin LP Questionable
    Sherrick McManis LP Questionable
    Pernell McPhee DNP Questionable
    Jeremiah Ratliff LP Questionable
    Antrel Rolle DNP Doubtful
    Eddie Royal DNP Questionable
    Will Sutton LP Questionable

    50% of their starters are either out or questionable. 50% of their starters practiced limited or not at all.

    How are they going to stay within two TDs in a terrible spot on the road against a Chiefs team that played below value so far.
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    Suuma you mentioned that KC did well against KC but Denver offense has not been doing well especially beginning of the year. No run game established until last week and Manning not doing much on offense. You can't use that. 

    I think KC offense is not that good. Alex Smith is not a slinger. Maclin only does well because KC has been down the past two games. Kelce isn't even used properly. 

    How has KC defense been this year?

    Though reading the loss of the center, LT helps. Also Rolle being likely out. I might choose KC but only if I don't see better games.


    The Broncos had two successful drives when I remember right along with one at the end where the Chiefs had some weird prevent play-calling. Just like the Panthers before halftime against the Jaguars.

    The Chiefs defense has been good during the first two games but the last two games on the road against two teams who will probably see Championship game appearances deflated their numbers and outcome A LOT. This is basically the same defense like last season who lost Phillip Gaines but got guys back just like Derrick Johnson. They will look a lot better in the future, starting tomorrow.

    Recent Bears injury report:

    Alan Ball LP Questionable
    Jermon Bushrod Out
    Jay Cutler LP Questionable
    Jimmy Clausen LP Questionable
    Alshon Jeffery DNP Questionable
    Kyle Long LP Questionable
    Shea McClellin LP Questionable
    Sherrick McManis LP Questionable
    Pernell McPhee DNP Questionable
    Jeremiah Ratliff LP Questionable
    Antrel Rolle DNP Doubtful
    Eddie Royal DNP Questionable
    Will Sutton LP Questionable

    50% of their starters are either out or questionable. 50% of their starters practiced limited or not at all.

    How are they going to stay within two TDs in a terrible spot on the road against a Chiefs team that played below value so far.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:15 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    Bengals are a very interesting team this week. Remember last year ? Bengals open the season 3-0, winning by 7, 14 and then 26, the following week the play a very good team in the Pats who at the time were in a free-fall, offense playing terrible and they really needed a win.

    What happened next, Pats crushed the Bengals 43-17.

    Almost identical situation this season, Bengals 4-0 and playing a very good team that is in a free-fall, not as good as past 2 years and  they really need a win........ will the Bengals have learned anything from last season ?

    We'll learn alot about this team on Sunday.


    Interesting analogy, but I think this isn't the same situation. The Patriots got steamrolled by the Chiefs on the road and the Bengals were on the road missing some key players like Marvin Jones & Tyler Eifert and had no pass rush at all. They are a complete team right now and the Seahawks are off a close home win.
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    Bengals are a very interesting team this week. Remember last year ? Bengals open the season 3-0, winning by 7, 14 and then 26, the following week the play a very good team in the Pats who at the time were in a free-fall, offense playing terrible and they really needed a win.

    What happened next, Pats crushed the Bengals 43-17.

    Almost identical situation this season, Bengals 4-0 and playing a very good team that is in a free-fall, not as good as past 2 years and  they really need a win........ will the Bengals have learned anything from last season ?

    We'll learn alot about this team on Sunday.


    Interesting analogy, but I think this isn't the same situation. The Patriots got steamrolled by the Chiefs on the road and the Bengals were on the road missing some key players like Marvin Jones & Tyler Eifert and had no pass rush at all. They are a complete team right now and the Seahawks are off a close home win.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:

    Suuma  

    Love the Kansas City pick also- i have a write up on it as well

    In the Philadelphia game, i also love the Eagles this week. That is without question a Philadelphia line.

    I'm going to go against you on the Cincinnati / Seattle game. Bengals getting to much love sitting at 4-0 will have Seattle ready. I think Seattle does just enough to get a late win .


    Best of luck 


    Your write-up is phenomenal
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:

    Suuma  

    Love the Kansas City pick also- i have a write up on it as well

    In the Philadelphia game, i also love the Eagles this week. That is without question a Philadelphia line.

    I'm going to go against you on the Cincinnati / Seattle game. Bengals getting to much love sitting at 4-0 will have Seattle ready. I think Seattle does just enough to get a late win .


    Best of luck 


    Your write-up is phenomenal
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    Bengals have a good O-line. That has been key to their success. Dalton will have all time to throw

    BOL Suuma. Nice read. I will add the Cardinals to my plays. Have been leaning them wanted to see what you had to say. Carson Palmer 9-1 as Card's starter when he's healthy can't beat that. Lions are a mess




    I believe the Cardinals will have some problems in the second half of the season when facing a tougher schedule. But this spot is too good to pass.
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    Bengals have a good O-line. That has been key to their success. Dalton will have all time to throw

    BOL Suuma. Nice read. I will add the Cardinals to my plays. Have been leaning them wanted to see what you had to say. Carson Palmer 9-1 as Card's starter when he's healthy can't beat that. Lions are a mess




    I believe the Cardinals will have some problems in the second half of the season when facing a tougher schedule. But this spot is too good to pass.
     
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    wish me luck Bro... I'm in the big black hole now
    Gl tomorrow plays Bro
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    wish me luck Bro... I'm in the big black hole now
    Gl tomorrow plays Bro
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    there are no joke lines and you know that. doesn't that tells you something suuma my friend? i took the opposite but wish a good luck. one of us will win and that is good enough for me


    Seattle are still the public darling while the Bengals have still something to prove in Joe Public's mind. Oddsmakers open lines at numbers where they believe can generate 50/50 action. If the action isn't 50/50, the lines move towards the discrepancy. Algorithms take care of that at big oddsmakers like offshores.

    I know you believe that there are games which have loopsided money splits but unless you can prove me that, I won't believe it. Why should a big bookie (not a local though) take so much risk by accepting a 80/20 money split on a spread? One late pick six and he gets burned.

    As long as so many people in the world are betting so much money day in day out, bookies win on every game off the juice, so why would they take loopsided action?? And if they take loopsided action, why do lines move so often? That wouldn't make sense.

    On Sundays you can follow line movement going crazy on NFL games two hours before kickoff because there is much money coming in on the games. If games are rigged or bookies know who wins, they don't need to move the lines do they?

    Thanks for your comment, wish you the best this week
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    there are no joke lines and you know that. doesn't that tells you something suuma my friend? i took the opposite but wish a good luck. one of us will win and that is good enough for me


    Seattle are still the public darling while the Bengals have still something to prove in Joe Public's mind. Oddsmakers open lines at numbers where they believe can generate 50/50 action. If the action isn't 50/50, the lines move towards the discrepancy. Algorithms take care of that at big oddsmakers like offshores.

    I know you believe that there are games which have loopsided money splits but unless you can prove me that, I won't believe it. Why should a big bookie (not a local though) take so much risk by accepting a 80/20 money split on a spread? One late pick six and he gets burned.

    As long as so many people in the world are betting so much money day in day out, bookies win on every game off the juice, so why would they take loopsided action?? And if they take loopsided action, why do lines move so often? That wouldn't make sense.

    On Sundays you can follow line movement going crazy on NFL games two hours before kickoff because there is much money coming in on the games. If games are rigged or bookies know who wins, they don't need to move the lines do they?

    Thanks for your comment, wish you the best this week
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    Bad run this year, made me switch to looking at every game in the week instead of the normal one game per time slot I been doing, KC should feast on CHI at home this week, ARI losing at home to STL with DET losing by a hair on MNF setup a nice situation play for ARI, and if we talk football, ARI should man handle DET, stattford just isnt right this year. NO got real lucky with that 6 point win at home vs DAL, their D is worst than some D1 schools, PHI will finally have that explosive game this year. CIN/SEA I still have to side with SEA this game, I feel like both D will do their thing but its more which QB will do less to harm their team, those balls Dalton misses by 6-12 inches will be picked this game.

    GOOD LUCK!!



    Nice that we agree on a lot of games this week. May the better team win in the CIN game buddy
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    Bad run this year, made me switch to looking at every game in the week instead of the normal one game per time slot I been doing, KC should feast on CHI at home this week, ARI losing at home to STL with DET losing by a hair on MNF setup a nice situation play for ARI, and if we talk football, ARI should man handle DET, stattford just isnt right this year. NO got real lucky with that 6 point win at home vs DAL, their D is worst than some D1 schools, PHI will finally have that explosive game this year. CIN/SEA I still have to side with SEA this game, I feel like both D will do their thing but its more which QB will do less to harm their team, those balls Dalton misses by 6-12 inches will be picked this game.

    GOOD LUCK!!



    Nice that we agree on a lot of games this week. May the better team win in the CIN game buddy
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2015 - 10:32 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by St2ee:

    Suuma 

    I sense we have a big week coming buddy.  When we agree  The bookies flee!!!


    That's true. Let's get them
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    Suuma 

    I sense we have a big week coming buddy.  When we agree  The bookies flee!!!


    That's true. Let's get them
     
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    Thanks for the replies Suuma. I like the Rams +9/9.5. The way to stay competitive with GB is to have a strong run game to keep Rodgers off the field. Also GB defense is average at best I think so with Gurley running, Foles will be able to make throws and keep drives going and hopefully score some. Foles may be under rated as a QB, he can sling it and is accurate.

    Also you have a DL that is really solid and good secondary. The DL can put pressure on the OL without blitzing Rodgers. Rams showed what they can do last week vs. Cards. 
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    Thanks for the replies Suuma. I like the Rams +9/9.5. The way to stay competitive with GB is to have a strong run game to keep Rodgers off the field. Also GB defense is average at best I think so with Gurley running, Foles will be able to make throws and keep drives going and hopefully score some. Foles may be under rated as a QB, he can sling it and is accurate.

    Also you have a DL that is really solid and good secondary. The DL can put pressure on the OL without blitzing Rodgers. Rams showed what they can do last week vs. Cards. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by slomotion:

    I like your breakdown of the Seahawks game. Now, myself being a Seahawks fan as well as a TCU fan I will say this...... yes the Seahawks O line needs to improve. But Dalton tends to screw it up a lot with pick 6's. He is playing a lot better this yrs compared to yrs past, but I'm still waiting to see him toss up a few ducks here and there. I think Dalton is playing above his ability right now and will soon come back to earth. Maybe he continues the whole season, but he'lol be back. I think the line set at -4 is dead nuts on and should not be a full TD IMO. Seattle is no slouch. Not the team the we're the last few yrs, but just the same....... I ask myself this...... should this line be -7 because Cinn is at home and undefeated but Seattle's name is holding down to -4? Maybe..... but I doubt it. Or is it at -4 where it should be a pick'em/-1 only because people are remembering Seattle's latest performance with was uncharacteristic of them?

    Love the threads..... you have a refreshing angle to things and look forward to your thoughts each week. Thanks for your efforts.

    Marc



    Thanks for your comment. I believe what you have said could be said about Tony Romo as well. Andy Dalton is a QB I would put into the category "good". Not elite, but good. Give him a elite OL and a good/healthy receiving corps and he will burn opposing defenses. The Seahawks had no shot against Dallas last season, the score of 30-23 was sailed by turnovers. I see an equal game where the Seahawks don't get pressure on the QB and struggle to score. Teams with good OLs and running games also are resistent against backdoor covers, because they can run the time out when having a lead.

    Good luck this week, hope you keep chiming in
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    Quote Originally Posted by slomotion:

    I like your breakdown of the Seahawks game. Now, myself being a Seahawks fan as well as a TCU fan I will say this...... yes the Seahawks O line needs to improve. But Dalton tends to screw it up a lot with pick 6's. He is playing a lot better this yrs compared to yrs past, but I'm still waiting to see him toss up a few ducks here and there. I think Dalton is playing above his ability right now and will soon come back to earth. Maybe he continues the whole season, but he'lol be back. I think the line set at -4 is dead nuts on and should not be a full TD IMO. Seattle is no slouch. Not the team the we're the last few yrs, but just the same....... I ask myself this...... should this line be -7 because Cinn is at home and undefeated but Seattle's name is holding down to -4? Maybe..... but I doubt it. Or is it at -4 where it should be a pick'em/-1 only because people are remembering Seattle's latest performance with was uncharacteristic of them?

    Love the threads..... you have a refreshing angle to things and look forward to your thoughts each week. Thanks for your efforts.

    Marc



    Thanks for your comment. I believe what you have said could be said about Tony Romo as well. Andy Dalton is a QB I would put into the category "good". Not elite, but good. Give him a elite OL and a good/healthy receiving corps and he will burn opposing defenses. The Seahawks had no shot against Dallas last season, the score of 30-23 was sailed by turnovers. I see an equal game where the Seahawks don't get pressure on the QB and struggle to score. Teams with good OLs and running games also are resistent against backdoor covers, because they can run the time out when having a lead.

    Good luck this week, hope you keep chiming in
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

    Thanks for the replies Suuma. I like the Rams +9/9.5. The way to stay competitive with GB is to have a strong run game to keep Rodgers off the field. Also GB defense is average at best I think so with Gurley running, Foles will be able to make throws and keep drives going and hopefully score some. Foles may be under rated as a QB, he can sling it and is accurate.

    Also you have a DL that is really solid and good secondary. The DL can put pressure on the OL without blitzing Rodgers. Rams showed what they can do last week vs. Cards. 


    If you had followed my threads during the off-season you have noticed that I am very high on the Rams and picked them as a clear playoff team this year. With Nick Foles and Todd Gurley they would have been a 10-6 or 11-5 team last year. This offense is perfectly set up to put Foles into play-action mode.

    I am also leaning strong towards the Rams but will most likely tease them to +16. IF Rodgers can beat this defense by 16+ without Nelson, Adams, a banged up Jones and questionable OL play, he deserves MVP of the week.
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    Thanks for the replies Suuma. I like the Rams +9/9.5. The way to stay competitive with GB is to have a strong run game to keep Rodgers off the field. Also GB defense is average at best I think so with Gurley running, Foles will be able to make throws and keep drives going and hopefully score some. Foles may be under rated as a QB, he can sling it and is accurate.

    Also you have a DL that is really solid and good secondary. The DL can put pressure on the OL without blitzing Rodgers. Rams showed what they can do last week vs. Cards. 


    If you had followed my threads during the off-season you have noticed that I am very high on the Rams and picked them as a clear playoff team this year. With Nick Foles and Todd Gurley they would have been a 10-6 or 11-5 team last year. This offense is perfectly set up to put Foles into play-action mode.

    I am also leaning strong towards the Rams but will most likely tease them to +16. IF Rodgers can beat this defense by 16+ without Nelson, Adams, a banged up Jones and questionable OL play, he deserves MVP of the week.
     
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    Good Stuff

    I would be careful with the Eagles, they are terrible. It may be the Saints can make that Offense look good but a hurry up offense that is not capable of first downs is a very scary thing.

    I have watched every snap and series they have played this year, their amount of 3 and outs is staggering.

    Little Sammy has not been all that Big Chip hoped. The rookie wide out from USC oozes potential but just has not made much of a splash and their running game with DeMarco is a big fat zero.  If they play Sproles and Matthews they may get it going but I am just not sold on this team as they are right now. The Saints actually looked like they were making some plays on D last week and their young squad is hungry. 
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    Good Stuff

    I would be careful with the Eagles, they are terrible. It may be the Saints can make that Offense look good but a hurry up offense that is not capable of first downs is a very scary thing.

    I have watched every snap and series they have played this year, their amount of 3 and outs is staggering.

    Little Sammy has not been all that Big Chip hoped. The rookie wide out from USC oozes potential but just has not made much of a splash and their running game with DeMarco is a big fat zero.  If they play Sproles and Matthews they may get it going but I am just not sold on this team as they are right now. The Saints actually looked like they were making some plays on D last week and their young squad is hungry. 
     
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    Russell Wilson has had a lead in his last 88 games dating back to college.
    Last year he had 11 fumbles but lost zero.
    This year he has 3 fumbles and lost 2.
    He has been sacked 18 times

    Dalton has 1 fumble which was lost.
    He is averaging 10.2 yds per pass this yr.
    He has been sacked 2 times.


    Andy Dalton: 9 to 1 td/int__career 108 to 67
                            comp 67.2%__career 61.9%

    Russell Wilson: 5 to 2 td/int, career 77 to 28
                                comp 71.7%__career 64.2%

    Andy Dalton has turned a corner IMO. Having that stout o line helps him a bunch. The Seattle secondary will be his toughest challenge to date.

    Russell Wilson is not getting the o line blocking like he used to, the sack total shows us that. But dispite that his comp% is up from his career. The guy is a true winner and leader, he has intangibles that can't be capped.

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    Russell Wilson has had a lead in his last 88 games dating back to college.
    Last year he had 11 fumbles but lost zero.
    This year he has 3 fumbles and lost 2.
    He has been sacked 18 times

    Dalton has 1 fumble which was lost.
    He is averaging 10.2 yds per pass this yr.
    He has been sacked 2 times.


    Andy Dalton: 9 to 1 td/int__career 108 to 67
                            comp 67.2%__career 61.9%

    Russell Wilson: 5 to 2 td/int, career 77 to 28
                                comp 71.7%__career 64.2%

    Andy Dalton has turned a corner IMO. Having that stout o line helps him a bunch. The Seattle secondary will be his toughest challenge to date.

    Russell Wilson is not getting the o line blocking like he used to, the sack total shows us that. But dispite that his comp% is up from his career. The guy is a true winner and leader, he has intangibles that can't be capped.

     
     
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    I posted this in one of the other threads but think it got over looked.. Being so well versed on NFL teams and their O-line I was wondering your thoughts on this.  Do you think Belichek and crew are starting a trend that will stick?  The challenge this presents to defenses is pretty amazing, they dont know what to prepare for.  Seems like Bill uses this to find the "hot hand" on the offensive line for the second half.... Pats are averaging 20.3 points in the 2H where the next closest is 16.3 ... half the league is under 12 points 2h.. I think the pats stumbled on something while working out there O-line injuries... I love it..  Most games are won and lost on the front line, thats why I love reading your write ups!  Thanks


    https://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2015/09/patriots_innovative_offensive_line_combos_make_foes


    https://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/09/examining_the_patriots_o_line_rotations_by_the_numbers
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    I posted this in one of the other threads but think it got over looked.. Being so well versed on NFL teams and their O-line I was wondering your thoughts on this.  Do you think Belichek and crew are starting a trend that will stick?  The challenge this presents to defenses is pretty amazing, they dont know what to prepare for.  Seems like Bill uses this to find the "hot hand" on the offensive line for the second half.... Pats are averaging 20.3 points in the 2H where the next closest is 16.3 ... half the league is under 12 points 2h.. I think the pats stumbled on something while working out there O-line injuries... I love it..  Most games are won and lost on the front line, thats why I love reading your write ups!  Thanks


    https://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2015/09/patriots_innovative_offensive_line_combos_make_foes


    https://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/09/examining_the_patriots_o_line_rotations_by_the_numbers
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