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    If the NBA is rigged how does that happen?

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    IfYaSmellLALALA
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 11:58 AM ET #26

    its rigged in the sense that they don't care about tv ratings and entertainment. Canada is a larger market than Miami though so it balances out


    but the fact you guys trust the talking heads the sage steeles, the charles barkleys hyping up cleveland v miami is the problem in itself. their job is to deceive gamblers. 
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    its rigged in the sense that they don't care about tv ratings and entertainment. Canada is a larger market than Miami though so it balances out


    but the fact you guys trust the talking heads the sage steeles, the charles barkleys hyping up cleveland v miami is the problem in itself. their job is to deceive gamblers. 
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 1:43 PM ET #27

    You are correct rain. None of us can be right all the time. Plenty of games to play.....
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    You are correct rain. None of us can be right all the time. Plenty of games to play.....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 11:51 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

    This should be bumped/pinned/starred every time there is a "fixed" thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

    This should be bumped/pinned/starred every time there is a "fixed" thread
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 12:32 PM ET #29

    Well there is the margin of loss for a NBA Finals game to be considered. Would you have ever predicted such a large difference of scores between these teams before Game One in all three games so far? I believe this is sparking the crazy talks. Also seeing an MVP looking lost on the floor at times isn't help this matter either.

    "What's up with THAT!!??!"        
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    Well there is the margin of loss for a NBA Finals game to be considered. Would you have ever predicted such a large difference of scores between these teams before Game One in all three games so far? I believe this is sparking the crazy talks. Also seeing an MVP looking lost on the floor at times isn't help this matter either.

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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 12:44 PM ET #30

    Rigged for profits:

    I agree , toronto needed a boost in their market... And without any all stars on that squad they needed a boost from playing stars like dwade and lebron... Otherwise Canada may really lose interest. And with the us economy shrinking fast,, they are grabbing anything they can take.. Now that lebron has left Miami , he's able to clean up the mess for dwade.. Which  he may be retiring any moment and miami fans are losing interest though it seems they tried... miami is playing just good enough to make the playoffs so they can appear to be a legit playoff contenders... Miami, cleveland toronto playoff tickets go for a pretty dime,, squeeze a extra game here or there could means millions eventhough with that many hands in the pie a game 5 can go to game 6 or 7 in any series... 

    Theres many ways to grab attention as there are ways to write a script... 

    I feel its been a strange year yet it makes sense... With all the talk about the Nba being rigged through the years,, they had to get a new comisioner to take the heat,, reminds me of the american system... Bush didnt work so well,, we have the well spoken good looking and smart president.. Not that it changes anything,, but it keeps the public at bay... The funny part is ,, the commisioner came out to say that the league isnt rigged and they try their best to keep calls fair and consistant.. LOL.. What a tool he is... Yet they can do what ever they want as long as the money is still flowing in... 

    What i saw 

    Game 1 Gs got ALL the calls,, Lebron knew it they just didnt care..
    Lebron hides in a little corner and doesnt shoot... And when he's about to shoot he travels.. And when lebron gets the calls,, he misses the freethrows.. And when he gets a wide open lay up,, they dish it out to love at the 3 that can't hit a shot for the life of him... And if that doesnt work,, he dribbles the ball very high so that it can get stolen... 

    Game 2 Repeat game 1..

    Game 3 Cleveland got all the calls..  Curry decides not to shoot.. And when he does he misses it... game is ending ,, and they dont even care because they ALL know the script before this whole series even started...  Curry missing freethrows? But to make it interesting,, GS broke records this year,, and curry was down 3-1 against OKC to make it seem like curry is superman,, well we know what superman did in football last year agaist noodle arm did we not? Well that's the script and it sells... 

    I will admit.. Calls are all in favor of the home teams right in your face highdefinition style... Yet it is fair because each team will play at least two home games... They dont make it up in the same game thats all... And if this doesnt happen.. They make it up the following few years if you know what i mean... purity 101... Revenge,, stories... 






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    Rigged for profits:

    I agree , toronto needed a boost in their market... And without any all stars on that squad they needed a boost from playing stars like dwade and lebron... Otherwise Canada may really lose interest. And with the us economy shrinking fast,, they are grabbing anything they can take.. Now that lebron has left Miami , he's able to clean up the mess for dwade.. Which  he may be retiring any moment and miami fans are losing interest though it seems they tried... miami is playing just good enough to make the playoffs so they can appear to be a legit playoff contenders... Miami, cleveland toronto playoff tickets go for a pretty dime,, squeeze a extra game here or there could means millions eventhough with that many hands in the pie a game 5 can go to game 6 or 7 in any series... 

    Theres many ways to grab attention as there are ways to write a script... 

    I feel its been a strange year yet it makes sense... With all the talk about the Nba being rigged through the years,, they had to get a new comisioner to take the heat,, reminds me of the american system... Bush didnt work so well,, we have the well spoken good looking and smart president.. Not that it changes anything,, but it keeps the public at bay... The funny part is ,, the commisioner came out to say that the league isnt rigged and they try their best to keep calls fair and consistant.. LOL.. What a tool he is... Yet they can do what ever they want as long as the money is still flowing in... 

    What i saw 

    Game 1 Gs got ALL the calls,, Lebron knew it they just didnt care..
    Lebron hides in a little corner and doesnt shoot... And when he's about to shoot he travels.. And when lebron gets the calls,, he misses the freethrows.. And when he gets a wide open lay up,, they dish it out to love at the 3 that can't hit a shot for the life of him... And if that doesnt work,, he dribbles the ball very high so that it can get stolen... 

    Game 2 Repeat game 1..

    Game 3 Cleveland got all the calls..  Curry decides not to shoot.. And when he does he misses it... game is ending ,, and they dont even care because they ALL know the script before this whole series even started...  Curry missing freethrows? But to make it interesting,, GS broke records this year,, and curry was down 3-1 against OKC to make it seem like curry is superman,, well we know what superman did in football last year agaist noodle arm did we not? Well that's the script and it sells... 

    I will admit.. Calls are all in favor of the home teams right in your face highdefinition style... Yet it is fair because each team will play at least two home games... They dont make it up in the same game thats all... And if this doesnt happen.. They make it up the following few years if you know what i mean... purity 101... Revenge,, stories... 






     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 12:48 PM ET #31

    Then they tell Vegas what will happen... And they set lines according to this... The every shop in the planet tails this line... 
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    Then they tell Vegas what will happen... And they set lines according to this... The every shop in the planet tails this line... 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 12:53 PM ET #32

    And for anyone that tells you games are not rigged or scripted ,, beaware he either has no clue.. Or he doesnt want you to lose interest in the game,, whether it be buying into the commericials or vegas trying to get their cut... 
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    And for anyone that tells you games are not rigged or scripted ,, beaware he either has no clue.. Or he doesnt want you to lose interest in the game,, whether it be buying into the commericials or vegas trying to get their cut... 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 12:56 PM ET #33

    The easiest way to find out if a game is rigged by the numbers... Start charting the second half lines and see what happends... You would be suprised how much statistics can give itself away... Here's another example... I know home court advantage in the nba is not worth anywhere near double digits unless if its in Goldenstate... You have 25-30 wins by Gs,, then the opposing team wins by 25-30.. That's a 50 point difference isnt it? LOL 
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    The easiest way to find out if a game is rigged by the numbers... Start charting the second half lines and see what happends... You would be suprised how much statistics can give itself away... Here's another example... I know home court advantage in the nba is not worth anywhere near double digits unless if its in Goldenstate... You have 25-30 wins by Gs,, then the opposing team wins by 25-30.. That's a 50 point difference isnt it? LOL 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 10:57 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 11:38 AM ET #35

    I disagree with the bumped thread saying that playoffs is not fixed. The playoffs are the most fixed games of the year. Nobody would ever beat GS 4 of 7 if they didn't fix most of the games...
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    I disagree with the bumped thread saying that playoffs is not fixed. The playoffs are the most fixed games of the year. Nobody would ever beat GS 4 of 7 if they didn't fix most of the games...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 12:05 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Fistoffreedom:

    The same people who think the NBA is not rigged are probably the same drones who drink Starbucks, trust mainstream media and believe the chemtrails in the sky is water vapor. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fistoffreedom:

    The same people who think the NBA is not rigged are probably the same drones who drink Starbucks, trust mainstream media and believe the chemtrails in the sky is water vapor. LOL


     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 12:19 PM ET #37

    Not to jump on the bandwagon but it's similar to a court where the prosecutors are in the court room day in and day out with the judge. Nba refs are paid by the nba and sometimes bosses tell employees to oversee certain things . What we need is a 3rd party officiating
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    Not to jump on the bandwagon but it's similar to a court where the prosecutors are in the court room day in and day out with the judge. Nba refs are paid by the nba and sometimes bosses tell employees to oversee certain things . What we need is a 3rd party officiating
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.
    outstanding commentary....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.
    outstanding commentary....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

    I always talk about how games are rigged, after I win.

    What does winning or losing have to do with stating the obvious?

    Unless your key word was "complain"....I know for certain I am not complaining at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

    I always talk about how games are rigged, after I win.

    What does winning or losing have to do with stating the obvious?

    Unless your key word was "complain"....I know for certain I am not complaining at all!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.


    You make some valid points but I would have to disagree.
    The crooked ref Donaghy you mentioned And all The people whom profited from his rigging games were Winners and they ALL KNOW THE GAMES WERE RIGGED....
    Its not hard to accept that refs work for the league and have a way they want to call games.... There have been refs that have come out and showed bias towards other players .Ex Tim Duncan on the bench getting a Tech from Joey Crawford. some call it bad officiating others call it Rigging.. Give the opposition an unfair advantage,,,,Steve Javie has a video up on youtube where hes telling AI hes going to make it tough on him because of the fan interaction... Refs have attitudes and their own interest....
    Come on man NOT SAYing theres this GRAND CONSPIRACY
    but be open minded enough to accept that not everthing is what it seems at face value. Look at Mutombos dumbass dropped the ball on the 76ers or the damn Facebook page saying GSW vs Cavs while they still had OKC to play..............

    Win or Lose - dont count out the Fix

    Superbowl Where power goes out for 30 min and Ravens win ??? hmmmmm

    Or Lebron Crap-gate when they shut the AC in SA knowing he would cramp and thus helping SA.

    Come on man teams tanking to get draft picks is Rigging believe it or not... they want to lose Clev did it to Draft King JAMES
    Man n
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.


    You make some valid points but I would have to disagree.
    The crooked ref Donaghy you mentioned And all The people whom profited from his rigging games were Winners and they ALL KNOW THE GAMES WERE RIGGED....
    Its not hard to accept that refs work for the league and have a way they want to call games.... There have been refs that have come out and showed bias towards other players .Ex Tim Duncan on the bench getting a Tech from Joey Crawford. some call it bad officiating others call it Rigging.. Give the opposition an unfair advantage,,,,Steve Javie has a video up on youtube where hes telling AI hes going to make it tough on him because of the fan interaction... Refs have attitudes and their own interest....
    Come on man NOT SAYing theres this GRAND CONSPIRACY
    but be open minded enough to accept that not everthing is what it seems at face value. Look at Mutombos dumbass dropped the ball on the 76ers or the damn Facebook page saying GSW vs Cavs while they still had OKC to play..............

    Win or Lose - dont count out the Fix

    Superbowl Where power goes out for 30 min and Ravens win ??? hmmmmm

    Or Lebron Crap-gate when they shut the AC in SA knowing he would cramp and thus helping SA.

    Come on man teams tanking to get draft picks is Rigging believe it or not... they want to lose Clev did it to Draft King JAMES
    Man n
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 11:29 PM ET #41

    Its not fixed
    Its all on the up and up
    Keep believing that please.
    Idiots...
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    Its not fixed
    Its all on the up and up
    Keep believing that please.
    Idiots...
     
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    Two points:

    We need to define rigged. I don't believe the players are in on it because they earn enough and they all want that ring. And I believe at least one would whistle blow if they tried to buy ALL the players. It is certainly possible that refs are requested to favour a team but they can only determine a result in a close game

    The real reason this debate is unresolvable in NBA is because the ref has a disproportionate input in the modern game compared to other sports. He can consistently give or deny scoring shots throughout a game, due to the high number of fouls. In no other sport is this true except perhaps NFL where the same debate rages on

    Betting on the refs as 3ball does is NOT the same as saying it is rigged

    Good luck to you all....
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    Two points:

    We need to define rigged. I don't believe the players are in on it because they earn enough and they all want that ring. And I believe at least one would whistle blow if they tried to buy ALL the players. It is certainly possible that refs are requested to favour a team but they can only determine a result in a close game

    The real reason this debate is unresolvable in NBA is because the ref has a disproportionate input in the modern game compared to other sports. He can consistently give or deny scoring shots throughout a game, due to the high number of fouls. In no other sport is this true except perhaps NFL where the same debate rages on

    Betting on the refs as 3ball does is NOT the same as saying it is rigged

    Good luck to you all....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2016 - 2:14 AM ET #43

    But julespussy
    Love the handle btw
    But I don't see how when an NBA ref was caught fixing games for mob associates no less

    And other NBA officials who got nailed by the irs trading in first class plane tickets for coach seats and pocketing the difference.

    I don't see how anyone in their right mind can say the games are on the up and up.

    Officials of all sports have proven themselves untrustworthy.

    And so it goes...
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    But julespussy
    Love the handle btw
    But I don't see how when an NBA ref was caught fixing games for mob associates no less

    And other NBA officials who got nailed by the irs trading in first class plane tickets for coach seats and pocketing the difference.

    I don't see how anyone in their right mind can say the games are on the up and up.

    Officials of all sports have proven themselves untrustworthy.

    And so it goes...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2016 - 2:18 AM ET #44

    Granted iv come to the conclusion that no games have been fixed this year in the NBA playoffs
    Books are taking it on the chin.
    Only ones getting hurt are sharps.
    This isn't the NFL
    I can see a ton more sharp money being wagered than square money from the common gambler.
    Maybe they are trying to clean out the sharps or put a huge dent in their bankroll before the NFL and college football season start.
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    Granted iv come to the conclusion that no games have been fixed this year in the NBA playoffs
    Books are taking it on the chin.
    Only ones getting hurt are sharps.
    This isn't the NFL
    I can see a ton more sharp money being wagered than square money from the common gambler.
    Maybe they are trying to clean out the sharps or put a huge dent in their bankroll before the NFL and college football season start.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Two points:

    We need to define rigged. I don't believe the players are in on it because they earn enough and they all want that ring. And I believe at least one would whistle blow if they tried to buy ALL the players. It is certainly possible that refs are requested to favour a team but they can only determine a result in a close game

    The real reason this debate is unresolvable in NBA is because the ref has a disproportionate input in the modern game compared to other sports. He can consistently give or deny scoring shots throughout a game, due to the high number of fouls. In no other sport is this true except perhaps NFL where the same debate rages on

    Betting on the refs as 3ball does is NOT the same as saying it is rigged

    Good luck to you all....

    To me, it's not the same. But to most people it is infact the same. Most people would consider that to be "rigged" of course

    My definition or rigged is the same as scripted. I use the words interchangeably. So when I say it, I mean the players, coaches and everything are in on it.

    And what happened to you Mafioso that you think sports is real all of a sudden?!

    Are you ok in there? Did the NBA pull the wool over your eyes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Two points:

    We need to define rigged. I don't believe the players are in on it because they earn enough and they all want that ring. And I believe at least one would whistle blow if they tried to buy ALL the players. It is certainly possible that refs are requested to favour a team but they can only determine a result in a close game

    The real reason this debate is unresolvable in NBA is because the ref has a disproportionate input in the modern game compared to other sports. He can consistently give or deny scoring shots throughout a game, due to the high number of fouls. In no other sport is this true except perhaps NFL where the same debate rages on

    Betting on the refs as 3ball does is NOT the same as saying it is rigged

    Good luck to you all....

    To me, it's not the same. But to most people it is infact the same. Most people would consider that to be "rigged" of course

    My definition or rigged is the same as scripted. I use the words interchangeably. So when I say it, I mean the players, coaches and everything are in on it.

    And what happened to you Mafioso that you think sports is real all of a sudden?!

    Are you ok in there? Did the NBA pull the wool over your eyes?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2016 - 2:33 AM ET #46

    Its not fake....Dubs were just ACTING like they were trying to defend LeBron all night, yet purposely waited until after he took his shot to put the hand up in his face.

    Yeah that's real. (Insert heavy sarcasm here)

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    Its not fake....Dubs were just ACTING like they were trying to defend LeBron all night, yet purposely waited until after he took his shot to put the hand up in his face.

    Yeah that's real. (Insert heavy sarcasm here)

     
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    No mgm. Not at all
    I am the absolute biggest believer that sports are rigged.
    I have posted time and time again on it.
    Put out numerous links showing proof of it.

    These NBA playoffs can't be fixed for one reason
    No one but the smart bettors are losing.

    Squares are having their day.
    In the end it will crush them in the future
    They will become like crackheads chasing that first high.
    That first high being the devestation they have left in their path destroying the sports books in these NBA playoffs.
    49 favorites have covered the spread
    23 dogs have covered the spread.
    If it was in reverse
    The public would be looking at 49 dogs and 23 favorites.
    They would have been wiped out.
    Nope
    Not the case here.
    For some reason they have allowed these games to play without tampering.

    As I said before
    Squares rejoice
    You will never see this again
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    No mgm. Not at all
    I am the absolute biggest believer that sports are rigged.
    I have posted time and time again on it.
    Put out numerous links showing proof of it.

    These NBA playoffs can't be fixed for one reason
    No one but the smart bettors are losing.

    Squares are having their day.
    In the end it will crush them in the future
    They will become like crackheads chasing that first high.
    That first high being the devestation they have left in their path destroying the sports books in these NBA playoffs.
    49 favorites have covered the spread
    23 dogs have covered the spread.
    If it was in reverse
    The public would be looking at 49 dogs and 23 favorites.
    They would have been wiped out.
    Nope
    Not the case here.
    For some reason they have allowed these games to play without tampering.

    As I said before
    Squares rejoice
    You will never see this again
     
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    mafioso, after all is said and done, who do you lean towards for game #6 ? just curious after reading your response..take care bro
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    mafioso, after all is said and done, who do you lean towards for game #6 ? just curious after reading your response..take care bro
     
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    Cavs 
    Its what is needed not only for the NBA
    but My restaurant makes about 1500 more per day when there is a game lol
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    Cavs 
    Its what is needed not only for the NBA
    but My restaurant makes about 1500 more per day when there is a game lol
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Two points:We need to define rigged. I don't believe the players are in on it because they earn enough and they all want that ring. And I believe at least one would whistle blow if they tried to buy ALL the players. It is certainly possible that refs are requested to favour a team but they can only determine a result in a close gameThe real reason this debate is unresolvable in NBA is because the ref has a disproportionate input in the modern game compared to other sports. He can consistently give or deny scoring shots throughout a game, due to the high number of fouls. In no other sport is this true except perhaps NFL where the same debate rages onBetting on the refs as 3ball does is NOT the same as saying it is riggedGood luck to you all....

    To me, it's not the same. But to most people it is infact the same. Most people would consider that to be "rigged" of course
    My definition or rigged is the same as scripted. I use the words interchangeably. So when I say it, I mean the players, coaches and everything are in on it.
    And what happened to you Mafioso that you think sports is real all of a sudden?!
    Are you ok in there? Did the NBA pull the wool over your eyes?

    Isolated or even numerous examples of refs being paid to influence a certain way IF THEY CAN is something that is believable and has been proved of course

    But WHY would ALL players agree to be bought including multi millionaires who have chased a ring all their lives and have more than enough money?And in such a way that NONE of them have EVER exposed this racket?

    The specific scenario I've outlined is simply not credible
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Two points:We need to define rigged. I don't believe the players are in on it because they earn enough and they all want that ring. And I believe at least one would whistle blow if they tried to buy ALL the players. It is certainly possible that refs are requested to favour a team but they can only determine a result in a close gameThe real reason this debate is unresolvable in NBA is because the ref has a disproportionate input in the modern game compared to other sports. He can consistently give or deny scoring shots throughout a game, due to the high number of fouls. In no other sport is this true except perhaps NFL where the same debate rages onBetting on the refs as 3ball does is NOT the same as saying it is riggedGood luck to you all....

    To me, it's not the same. But to most people it is infact the same. Most people would consider that to be "rigged" of course
    My definition or rigged is the same as scripted. I use the words interchangeably. So when I say it, I mean the players, coaches and everything are in on it.
    And what happened to you Mafioso that you think sports is real all of a sudden?!
    Are you ok in there? Did the NBA pull the wool over your eyes?

    Isolated or even numerous examples of refs being paid to influence a certain way IF THEY CAN is something that is believable and has been proved of course

    But WHY would ALL players agree to be bought including multi millionaires who have chased a ring all their lives and have more than enough money?And in such a way that NONE of them have EVER exposed this racket?

    The specific scenario I've outlined is simply not credible
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