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    If the NBA is rigged how does that happen?

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    Julespussy
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:30 PM ET #1

    Conspiracy theorists please - explain that one to me?

    Not just the Raptors but in a total letdown blowout?

    Sensible answers please. Spread for the number I receive is 0.5

    Seriously, let's hear you explain this one away???
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Conspiracy theorists please - explain that one to me?

    Not just the Raptors but in a total letdown blowout?

    Sensible answers please. Spread for the number I receive is 0.5

    Seriously, let's hear you explain this one away???
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:34 PM ET #2

    notsure, but cant hide the fact that the NBA just COST themselves a Ton of Money! Raps vs Cavs, no intrigue, no storyline. NBA made a HUGH  mistake
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    notsure, but cant hide the fact that the NBA just COST themselves a Ton of Money! Raps vs Cavs, no intrigue, no storyline. NBA made a HUGH  mistake
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:42 PM ET #3

    NBA is not unhappy about the Raptors in the ECF.  Canada has no NHL teams in the playoffs so I am sure a lot of Canucks are/will be jumping on the Raps bandwagon.  
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    NBA is not unhappy about the Raptors in the ECF.  Canada has no NHL teams in the playoffs so I am sure a lot of Canucks are/will be jumping on the Raps bandwagon.  
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:44 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by smallbettor:

    notsure, but cant hide the fact that the NBA just COST themselves a Ton of Money! Raps vs Cavs, no intrigue, no storyline. NBA made a HUGH  mistake


    A whole country will be watching! Heat can't beat that.
    They look old and washed up like the Spurs. Both teams need to rebuild.
    stupid people are greater threat to society than criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallbettor:

    notsure, but cant hide the fact that the NBA just COST themselves a Ton of Money! Raps vs Cavs, no intrigue, no storyline. NBA made a HUGH  mistake


    A whole country will be watching! Heat can't beat that.
    They look old and washed up like the Spurs. Both teams need to rebuild.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:45 PM ET #5

    Everyone thought that miami-cavs is the best ratings buster, well , how is miami going to bring more fans than an entire country. Now all of canada will be watching this upcoming series , most likely fans and non-fans alike. I lived in toronto for 4 years . They bleed the leafs even when they are the worst team in the league. You couldnt walk anywhere downtown or to any restaurant without hearing some one talking about  or seeing  a tv with the leafs on.  Even when there was absolutely zero positive things to say about the leafs, a convo would still be started about how bad they are. You couldnt escape it. As a non-hockey fan it was insane to me. Now that there is no hockey to root for , literally the entire city and country will be rooting for the raps to win  which equates to well over hundreds of thousand of fans tuning in.  This is a moment where non-nba fans will start to watch the nba.  These are once in a lifetime moments as a business to capture a new audiance and make a mark. There is literally no price tag you can put on an opportunity such as this. 
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    Everyone thought that miami-cavs is the best ratings buster, well , how is miami going to bring more fans than an entire country. Now all of canada will be watching this upcoming series , most likely fans and non-fans alike. I lived in toronto for 4 years . They bleed the leafs even when they are the worst team in the league. You couldnt walk anywhere downtown or to any restaurant without hearing some one talking about  or seeing  a tv with the leafs on.  Even when there was absolutely zero positive things to say about the leafs, a convo would still be started about how bad they are. You couldnt escape it. As a non-hockey fan it was insane to me. Now that there is no hockey to root for , literally the entire city and country will be rooting for the raps to win  which equates to well over hundreds of thousand of fans tuning in.  This is a moment where non-nba fans will start to watch the nba.  These are once in a lifetime moments as a business to capture a new audiance and make a mark. There is literally no price tag you can put on an opportunity such as this. 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:47 PM ET #6

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.
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    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:48 PM ET #7

    Games are not rigged. People just look for excuses to explain their losing bet. Toronto had more depth and wanted it more. Wade got plenty of "star" calls all series. 

    Do star players get calls? Yes of course, but the overall result is far more determined by the shooting percentage of the teams, and the effort level in blocking, steals, and just playing good defence. 95% of the game is decided by this. 

    The losers just complain because they cannot man up and admit they handicapped the game wrong, they are just plain bad, or both.
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    Games are not rigged. People just look for excuses to explain their losing bet. Toronto had more depth and wanted it more. Wade got plenty of "star" calls all series. 

    Do star players get calls? Yes of course, but the overall result is far more determined by the shooting percentage of the teams, and the effort level in blocking, steals, and just playing good defence. 95% of the game is decided by this. 

    The losers just complain because they cannot man up and admit they handicapped the game wrong, they are just plain bad, or both.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:49 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

    Well said PhillyBrown. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:

    You see, people who think the NBA is rigged are just degenerate gamblers who can't admit they suck at picking games so they blame all their losses on it being fixed. You never hear winners complaining about games being fixed.

    What's hilarious is that these losers are such degenerates they still insist on betting games that they think are fixed.

    Sure, there are bad calls, missed calls, hometown calls, star calls, etc. And there was a crooked ref Donaghy a while back. but there's no big conspiracy. If there was, they would do it on less watched games and by paying off lesser-paid players. Not in the playoffs where the players that would need to be in on it are millionaires and don't really need the money. And the refs who miss too many calls are named and shamed straight away now and will probably face punishment like working less playoff games, etc. In general the games are very well reffed. This year in the playoffs there have been some notable eff ups by the offficials but it's really the exception rather than the rule.

    People just can't stand losing and can't get their head around why a team that looks great one night plays bad the next night, but that's just the way the NBA is. Look at SA, they would have made headlines all year for how good they were if not for being outshined by the Dubs, but in that game 6 they just could not buy a bucket, whereas OKC had contested jumpers from role players hitting nothing but net. That's ball, the line between makes and misses is very thin.

    Well said PhillyBrown. 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:01 PM ET #9

    Wow - there are some sane people on this forum!

    No sign of the aforementioned clowns yet - big surprise!
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    Wow - there are some sane people on this forum!

    No sign of the aforementioned clowns yet - big surprise!
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:06 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Wow - there are some sane people on this forum!

    No sign of the aforementioned clowns yet - big surprise!


    They'll come back out in a day a couple days, don't worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Wow - there are some sane people on this forum!

    No sign of the aforementioned clowns yet - big surprise!


    They'll come back out in a day a couple days, don't worry.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:09 PM ET #11

    After the lines close, Vegas will measure how much people bet on Miami and Toronto, like 70% on Miami, 30% on Toronto. Vegas calls to the Arena or stadium, Miami you have to lose more than 5-6 today
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    After the lines close, Vegas will measure how much people bet on Miami and Toronto, like 70% on Miami, 30% on Toronto. Vegas calls to the Arena or stadium, Miami you have to lose more than 5-6 today
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:12 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by MITdropout:


    Well said PhillyBrown. 


    Best post ever.  So many idiots cry Vegas controls these games, they have no clue what they post and how it makes them look so dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MITdropout:


    Well said PhillyBrown. 


    Best post ever.  So many idiots cry Vegas controls these games, they have no clue what they post and how it makes them look so dumb.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:16 PM ET #13

    Raptor who had a better record, better defense, and more depth....somehow its a fix that Miami that was inferior in almost every way got blown out in game 7.

    Besides the "Wade" advantage, what does Miami have? Having the best player on the court doesn't mean your team is going to win, and even that's debatable as Lowry was just as good as in the 2nd half of the series.

    People blindly bet on "stars', not actual teams...

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    Raptor who had a better record, better defense, and more depth....somehow its a fix that Miami that was inferior in almost every way got blown out in game 7.

    Besides the "Wade" advantage, what does Miami have? Having the best player on the court doesn't mean your team is going to win, and even that's debatable as Lowry was just as good as in the 2nd half of the series.

    People blindly bet on "stars', not actual teams...

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:49 PM ET #14

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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:54 PM ET #15

    Give all the conspiracy theories a rest, the better team won and anything is possible from this point on.
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    Give all the conspiracy theories a rest, the better team won and anything is possible from this point on.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 7:57 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Alomar:

    Give all the conspiracy theories a rest, the better team won and anything is possible from this point on.

    Have you read a single word in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alomar:

    Give all the conspiracy theories a rest, the better team won and anything is possible from this point on.

    Have you read a single word in this thread?
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 8:02 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

    After the lines close, Vegas will measure how much people bet on Miami and Toronto, like 70% on Miami, 30% on Toronto. Vegas calls to the Arena or stadium, Miami you have to lose more than 5-6 today

    I was waiting for this.

    So we have conspiracy theories in place that support any result.

    So after the game we wheel out the one that applies depending on the result and boom! The rigged outcome is alive and well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

    After the lines close, Vegas will measure how much people bet on Miami and Toronto, like 70% on Miami, 30% on Toronto. Vegas calls to the Arena or stadium, Miami you have to lose more than 5-6 today

    I was waiting for this.

    So we have conspiracy theories in place that support any result.

    So after the game we wheel out the one that applies depending on the result and boom! The rigged outcome is alive and well!
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 8:09 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:


    I was waiting for this.

    So we have conspiracy theories in place that support any result.

    So after the game we wheel out the one that applies depending on the result and boom! The rigged outcome is alive and well!

    Exactly! They all knew it AFTER the game was over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:


    I was waiting for this.

    So we have conspiracy theories in place that support any result.

    So after the game we wheel out the one that applies depending on the result and boom! The rigged outcome is alive and well!

    Exactly! They all knew it AFTER the game was over.

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 2:07 AM ET #19

    Always laugh when I read about how the "fix is in" and how its "setup" for this or that to happen.

    Its not...lolol

    I work in pro sports (baseball and football) for 35 years, and I cant agree more with the logical posters in this thread.

    Fyi, Vegas isnt a person....Vegas doesnt care anything more than trying to get an equal amount of $$$ on both sides of a game.

    Nothing else.

    Of course weird, crazy and ridiculous calls are made all the time by refs and officials. Thats because theyre human and its all subjective to their opinion.

    I also have no doubt that ALOT of players and coaches are keenly aware of what the spreads and totals are in their games and Im sure theres been some that have "taken care" of their fans and supporters in the past and will do so in the future.


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    Always laugh when I read about how the "fix is in" and how its "setup" for this or that to happen.

    Its not...lolol

    I work in pro sports (baseball and football) for 35 years, and I cant agree more with the logical posters in this thread.

    Fyi, Vegas isnt a person....Vegas doesnt care anything more than trying to get an equal amount of $$$ on both sides of a game.

    Nothing else.

    Of course weird, crazy and ridiculous calls are made all the time by refs and officials. Thats because theyre human and its all subjective to their opinion.

    I also have no doubt that ALOT of players and coaches are keenly aware of what the spreads and totals are in their games and Im sure theres been some that have "taken care" of their fans and supporters in the past and will do so in the future.


     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 9:53 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

    After the lines close, Vegas will measure how much people bet on Miami and Toronto, like 70% on Miami, 30% on Toronto. Vegas calls to the Arena or stadium, Miami you have to lose more than 5-6 today

    One call to Joe Pesci. He can get things done! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

    After the lines close, Vegas will measure how much people bet on Miami and Toronto, like 70% on Miami, 30% on Toronto. Vegas calls to the Arena or stadium, Miami you have to lose more than 5-6 today

    One call to Joe Pesci. He can get things done! 
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 10:46 AM ET #21

    Canada is a BIG country bigger than Rick Ross and Miami. 
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    Canada is a BIG country bigger than Rick Ross and Miami. 
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 11:20 AM ET #22

    Here's a question...

    What if one casino in "Vegas" has more money on one side, and another casino in "Vegas" has majority of money on the other...when they make the call to "fix" the game, which casino do they fix it for?


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    Here's a question...

    What if one casino in "Vegas" has more money on one side, and another casino in "Vegas" has majority of money on the other...when they make the call to "fix" the game, which casino do they fix it for?


     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 11:24 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by bum:




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    Quote Originally Posted by bum:




     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 11:24 AM ET #24

    The same people who think the NBA is not rigged are probably the same drones who drink Starbucks, trust mainstream media and believe the chemtrails in the sky is water vapor. LOL
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    The same people who think the NBA is not rigged are probably the same drones who drink Starbucks, trust mainstream media and believe the chemtrails in the sky is water vapor. LOL
     
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2016 - 11:58 AM ET #25

    More reasonable assumption is that the Raptors fell into the heart of a statistically significant trend (home steams game 7 are 99-24.)  If the inverse were true and the away team won it would more support the idea of rigging/fixing, statistically speaking
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    More reasonable assumption is that the Raptors fell into the heart of a statistically significant trend (home steams game 7 are 99-24.)  If the inverse were true and the away team won it would more support the idea of rigging/fixing, statistically speaking
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