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    CELTICS @ CAVALIERS: GAME 3!!! This line is as beautiful to me as a drop-dead gorgeous woman!!

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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 2:45 AM ET #26

    No Isiah Thomas.....CAVS -3000 ML

    CELTICS +17 / +16.5 / 16  (fluctuating by the hr)

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    No Isiah Thomas.....CAVS -3000 ML

    CELTICS +17 / +16.5 / 16  (fluctuating by the hr)

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 3:03 AM ET #28

    OF course every square bettor and their mom and dad will be on Cavs, I will take Celtics +16.5 regardless with you! How can Boston not come motivated after Friday night? How can Cleveland come totally focused knowing they have this series won and how can they not consider winning by less than 16 for their boys who wager (Okay, might be going a little overboard, but doubt it)?  Seriously, Boston should hang within 15 anyway and public crushed tonight with Warriors, can't see it happening again as books are getting destroyed by Warriors & Cavaliers... think the books win this game as Joe Public can't win forever!
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    OF course every square bettor and their mom and dad will be on Cavs, I will take Celtics +16.5 regardless with you! How can Boston not come motivated after Friday night? How can Cleveland come totally focused knowing they have this series won and how can they not consider winning by less than 16 for their boys who wager (Okay, might be going a little overboard, but doubt it)?  Seriously, Boston should hang within 15 anyway and public crushed tonight with Warriors, can't see it happening again as books are getting destroyed by Warriors & Cavaliers... think the books win this game as Joe Public can't win forever!
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 3:04 AM ET #29

    Damn, Celtics +1500 ML or better might be worth a wager, maybe Lebron fakes a twisted ankle and let's Boston win... it is the NBA!
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    Damn, Celtics +1500 ML or better might be worth a wager, maybe Lebron fakes a twisted ankle and let's Boston win... it is the NBA!
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 3:21 AM ET #30

    On the other side...GL on your play. 
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    On the other side...GL on your play. 
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 7:50 AM ET #31

    It's important to remember that the Celtics only have one style of offense that they're able to implement and most of that was Thomas freelancing and hanging in the air as long as possible.  They rarely run halfcourt sets at all.  Stevens is incapable of adjusting and they'll have to hit tons of threes in order to compete.  To be fair, it is possible that they'll compete well as you stated, but that still won't make up for the Celtics switching all the time on defense, which I am pretty sure is what Stevens and his assistant coaches tell them to do, along with doubling way too often and being unable to recover with their rotations.
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    It's important to remember that the Celtics only have one style of offense that they're able to implement and most of that was Thomas freelancing and hanging in the air as long as possible.  They rarely run halfcourt sets at all.  Stevens is incapable of adjusting and they'll have to hit tons of threes in order to compete.  To be fair, it is possible that they'll compete well as you stated, but that still won't make up for the Celtics switching all the time on defense, which I am pretty sure is what Stevens and his assistant coaches tell them to do, along with doubling way too often and being unable to recover with their rotations.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 8:00 AM ET #32

    There is a one major condition for your prediction to go thru:
    The Cavaliers would have to sit their starters already at the halftime. And that will happen only if at the halftime they will be up by more than 30. That too is a risky guess as the Cleveland based fans wanna see their idols for at least 3 quarters. If last night the Spurs would have covered the spread - I may have considered going with the Celtics here saying the Cavaliers will be playing with one hand tied up behind their backs - but, as long as that is not the case - it is hard to envision the Cavaliers  - at the first home game after being insulted by the Celtics winning the conference seeding - cutting any slack in front of the home crowd - to the Celtics.
    It is either a total sell out Walmart style - or it is a blowout LATEST style. No middle thing with explanations and $hit
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    There is a one major condition for your prediction to go thru:
    The Cavaliers would have to sit their starters already at the halftime. And that will happen only if at the halftime they will be up by more than 30. That too is a risky guess as the Cleveland based fans wanna see their idols for at least 3 quarters. If last night the Spurs would have covered the spread - I may have considered going with the Celtics here saying the Cavaliers will be playing with one hand tied up behind their backs - but, as long as that is not the case - it is hard to envision the Cavaliers  - at the first home game after being insulted by the Celtics winning the conference seeding - cutting any slack in front of the home crowd - to the Celtics.
    It is either a total sell out Walmart style - or it is a blowout LATEST style. No middle thing with explanations and $hit
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 9:25 AM ET #33

    Rather give money to my favorite charity  then bet this game 
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    Rather give money to my favorite charity  then bet this game 
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 9:47 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by austrian:

    There is a one major condition for your prediction to go thru:
    The Cavaliers would have to sit their starters already at the halftime. And that will happen only if at the halftime they will be up by more than 30. That too is a risky guess as the Cleveland based fans wanna see their idols for at least 3 quarters. If last night the Spurs would have covered the spread - I may have considered going with the Celtics here saying the Cavaliers will be playing with one hand tied up behind their backs - but, as long as that is not the case - it is hard to envision the Cavaliers  - at the first home game after being insulted by the Celtics winning the conference seeding - cutting any slack in front of the home crowd - to the Celtics.
    It is either a total sell out Walmart style - or it is a blowout LATEST style. No middle thing with explanations and $hit
    At this point i think clevelands bench can hang with boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austrian:

    There is a one major condition for your prediction to go thru:
    The Cavaliers would have to sit their starters already at the halftime. And that will happen only if at the halftime they will be up by more than 30. That too is a risky guess as the Cleveland based fans wanna see their idols for at least 3 quarters. If last night the Spurs would have covered the spread - I may have considered going with the Celtics here saying the Cavaliers will be playing with one hand tied up behind their backs - but, as long as that is not the case - it is hard to envision the Cavaliers  - at the first home game after being insulted by the Celtics winning the conference seeding - cutting any slack in front of the home crowd - to the Celtics.
    It is either a total sell out Walmart style - or it is a blowout LATEST style. No middle thing with explanations and $hit
    At this point i think clevelands bench can hang with boston.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 10:08 AM ET #35

    If you love big lines just wait until the half when the Cavs are up by 40. You should get the Celts +38 or maybe even higher considering the Cavs won all 2H wagers in game 2 after being up over 40.
    It's your money Bro.
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    If you love big lines just wait until the half when the Cavs are up by 40. You should get the Celts +38 or maybe even higher considering the Cavs won all 2H wagers in game 2 after being up over 40.
    It's your money Bro.
     
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    You'd have to go to St. Peter's Cathedral to see this much genuflecting to one deity, and that is what Lebron has transformed into in this thread.

    Wow.

    In the face of 16 points. 16.

    I have seen posters on here see a line move from 3 to 3.5 and giddily type, "That's too many points! Give me the dog!" 

    Now we are dealing with a record-breaker. Guinness is in the building documenting this number for posterity and covers masses are so entranced by the Game 2 beatdown (a NECESSARY condition for this number to even come close to existing) it's like a scene out of Apocolypto where they clutch the ground in reverence to the Sun god.

    16 points. Do you have any idea how big that is?

    16 isn't even the same number Game 1 opened up as in 2008 when the mighty Celtics, lead by KG PP and Ray, played Zaza Pachulia and the lowly Hawks. That game's line was 15. Even that game against that nothing team 1 vs 8 didn't hit 16.

    (The Celtics actually covered that 16.)

    But guess what, as the series progressed, it actually went SEVEN games. 

    Yes the great super team laying huge numbers to start the series were almost eliminated by Zaza Gabore, I mean, Pachulia, and the nothing Hawks.

    All the Celtics have to do today is COMPETE. 

    In the face of a historic crushing...the EXACT thing we need to ask them to compete.

    In the face of incomparable hubris...with JR sweeping them out of the building in the middle of Game 2. 

    In the face of a team that has said and done it all so far. What more needs to be said after last game??? 

    16. And there posters faves breathe in the dust from the earth's crust because their nose has pressed against it.


    Continue chanting and murmuring some prayer. I stand on my two feet confidently with a spread like this!

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    You'd have to go to St. Peter's Cathedral to see this much genuflecting to one deity, and that is what Lebron has transformed into in this thread.

    Wow.

    In the face of 16 points. 16.

    I have seen posters on here see a line move from 3 to 3.5 and giddily type, "That's too many points! Give me the dog!" 

    Now we are dealing with a record-breaker. Guinness is in the building documenting this number for posterity and covers masses are so entranced by the Game 2 beatdown (a NECESSARY condition for this number to even come close to existing) it's like a scene out of Apocolypto where they clutch the ground in reverence to the Sun god.

    16 points. Do you have any idea how big that is?

    16 isn't even the same number Game 1 opened up as in 2008 when the mighty Celtics, lead by KG PP and Ray, played Zaza Pachulia and the lowly Hawks. That game's line was 15. Even that game against that nothing team 1 vs 8 didn't hit 16.

    (The Celtics actually covered that 16.)

    But guess what, as the series progressed, it actually went SEVEN games. 

    Yes the great super team laying huge numbers to start the series were almost eliminated by Zaza Gabore, I mean, Pachulia, and the nothing Hawks.

    All the Celtics have to do today is COMPETE. 

    In the face of a historic crushing...the EXACT thing we need to ask them to compete.

    In the face of incomparable hubris...with JR sweeping them out of the building in the middle of Game 2. 

    In the face of a team that has said and done it all so far. What more needs to be said after last game??? 

    16. And there posters faves breathe in the dust from the earth's crust because their nose has pressed against it.


    Continue chanting and murmuring some prayer. I stand on my two feet confidently with a spread like this!

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 11:16 AM ET #37

    16 points is a lot during the regular season when you're playing a back to back and been on a west coast swing.
    But the playoffs are a different animal.
    The Cavs are looking to better their game 2 performance in front of their home crowd.
    16--18--20 It shouldn't really matter.
    This game gets ugly by midway through the second quarter.
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    16 points is a lot during the regular season when you're playing a back to back and been on a west coast swing.
    But the playoffs are a different animal.
    The Cavs are looking to better their game 2 performance in front of their home crowd.
    16--18--20 It shouldn't really matter.
    This game gets ugly by midway through the second quarter.
     
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    FADE FADE FADE this guy sounds like Vegas propaganda. Yea lets ride the Cs without IT after a 40 pr blowout. Idc how many points the Cs are getting if you are thinking the Cs cover why the hell even bet on this game that's just plain stupid. Cavs, Ou, or TT are the only bets you should think. Cs to cover just don't bet.
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    FADE FADE FADE this guy sounds like Vegas propaganda. Yea lets ride the Cs without IT after a 40 pr blowout. Idc how many points the Cs are getting if you are thinking the Cs cover why the hell even bet on this game that's just plain stupid. Cavs, Ou, or TT are the only bets you should think. Cs to cover just don't bet.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 11:49 AM ET #39

    Love this play. Everybody gonna jump on the Cavs after the blowout and Thomas injury. The little guy put his body on the line all year and played through his sister's death, his teammates are going to go all out here. Cavs will probably win but won't cover.
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    Love this play. Everybody gonna jump on the Cavs after the blowout and Thomas injury. The little guy put his body on the line all year and played through his sister's death, his teammates are going to go all out here. Cavs will probably win but won't cover.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 11:54 AM ET #40

    It's +17 on Bovada now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derp-Sippin:

    FADE FADE FADE this guy sounds like Vegas propaganda. Yea lets ride the Cs without IT after a 40 pr blowout. Idc how many points the Cs are getting if you are thinking the Cs cover why the hell even bet on this game that's just plain stupid. Cavs, Ou, or TT are the only bets you should think. Cs to cover just don't bet.

    lmao. you dont sound square at all. regardless. 16/17 is huge for a 1 seed i agree. I also agree live wagering will offer 20+ in the first half which will be nice. will proly split my bet between the two. BOL scal, way to turn around the season after the rough patch. this has to be the most posted plays for you in a year?? only known about this site a few yrs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derp-Sippin:

    FADE FADE FADE this guy sounds like Vegas propaganda. Yea lets ride the Cs without IT after a 40 pr blowout. Idc how many points the Cs are getting if you are thinking the Cs cover why the hell even bet on this game that's just plain stupid. Cavs, Ou, or TT are the only bets you should think. Cs to cover just don't bet.

    lmao. you dont sound square at all. regardless. 16/17 is huge for a 1 seed i agree. I also agree live wagering will offer 20+ in the first half which will be nice. will proly split my bet between the two. BOL scal, way to turn around the season after the rough patch. this has to be the most posted plays for you in a year?? only known about this site a few yrs.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 12:29 PM ET #43

    The only thing to do in this situation is catch this game when points move   that's my bread and butter in basketball! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by loserforeverz:

    How many times are we seeing ''pro cappers'' choose the under dog in the playoffs and lose?? Stop thinking the fix is in on vegas guys..




    Many times( it's called life) can't win them all !! Ummmm this tonight game can potentially be fixes to the other side.
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    How many times are we seeing ''pro cappers'' choose the under dog in the playoffs and lose?? Stop thinking the fix is in on vegas guys..




    Many times( it's called life) can't win them all !! Ummmm this tonight game can potentially be fixes to the other side.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 12:33 PM ET #45

    If you're waiting for the Celtics line to go up to +18 just wait until the half it'll be Celtics +38. Lol
    It's gonna be another rout.
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    It's gonna be another rout.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 12:35 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Lets_Get_em:





    Many times( it's called life) can't win them all !! Ummmm this tonight game can potentially be fixes to the other side.



     Well ? What do I know 
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    Many times( it's called life) can't win them all !! Ummmm this tonight game can potentially be fixes to the other side.



     Well ? What do I know 
     
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    idk about this one man think the cavs tear celts a new *hole cause they want to kill gsw
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    I had to create an account so I could post on this.  Been gambling for a lot of years and I will be betting Boston +16.5 on principle.  I usually just do player props but this is an investment opportunity.

    Scalabrine-great write up, all situations I look for

    Regular season player stats don't mean anything in the playoffs.  I remember my barber telling me how Isaiah was gonna give the Cavs trouble two years ago in the first rd and I laughed.  Same crowd here if you think that Isaiah is a top 15 player in this league. Bottom line is the guy is a midget and doesn't get the duck in for contact calls on the road anyways.  Avg 8 ppg less on the road in playoffs than regular season. You're also half a step to a step closer on rotations since he's so damn small.

    Last point is people are on here saying Brad Stevens can't coach?!  He's one of the top 5 in the NBA.  To get this group to where they are is remarkable.  This is the best I've ever seen Horford play.  Crowder and Bradley should be bench players but he's made them better.  He'll have them motivated and where it needs to show up is on the glass.

    Rosier and Smart will pack enough punch to be competitive.  Don't think the Celtics will try to muck it up with some scuffles but their play does the talking tonight.  If Thomas was playing, I'd take the first half on a spread of 14 at 7.5-8 but it might take some time for the Celtics to get comfortable on offense.

    100% agree with the angle that the public can't get this fat without regressing to the norm.  All these 75% public plays can't keep hitting with this volume of action.  I weighted this way too much betting CBB in the 15-16 season instead of just trying to pick winners but 16.5 is insane.



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    I had to create an account so I could post on this.  Been gambling for a lot of years and I will be betting Boston +16.5 on principle.  I usually just do player props but this is an investment opportunity.

    Scalabrine-great write up, all situations I look for

    Regular season player stats don't mean anything in the playoffs.  I remember my barber telling me how Isaiah was gonna give the Cavs trouble two years ago in the first rd and I laughed.  Same crowd here if you think that Isaiah is a top 15 player in this league. Bottom line is the guy is a midget and doesn't get the duck in for contact calls on the road anyways.  Avg 8 ppg less on the road in playoffs than regular season. You're also half a step to a step closer on rotations since he's so damn small.

    Last point is people are on here saying Brad Stevens can't coach?!  He's one of the top 5 in the NBA.  To get this group to where they are is remarkable.  This is the best I've ever seen Horford play.  Crowder and Bradley should be bench players but he's made them better.  He'll have them motivated and where it needs to show up is on the glass.

    Rosier and Smart will pack enough punch to be competitive.  Don't think the Celtics will try to muck it up with some scuffles but their play does the talking tonight.  If Thomas was playing, I'd take the first half on a spread of 14 at 7.5-8 but it might take some time for the Celtics to get comfortable on offense.

    100% agree with the angle that the public can't get this fat without regressing to the norm.  All these 75% public plays can't keep hitting with this volume of action.  I weighted this way too much betting CBB in the 15-16 season instead of just trying to pick winners but 16.5 is insane.



     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2017 - 1:19 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by GH16:

    I had to create an account so I could post on this.  Been gambling for a lot of years and I will be betting Boston +16.5 on principle.  I usually just do player props but this is an investment opportunity.

    Scalabrine-great write up, all situations I look for

    Regular season player stats don't mean anything in the playoffs.  I remember my barber telling me how Isaiah was gonna give the Cavs trouble two years ago in the first rd and I laughed.  Same crowd here if you think that Isaiah is a top 15 player in this league. Bottom line is the guy is a midget and doesn't get the duck in for contact calls on the road anyways.  Avg 8 ppg less on the road in playoffs than regular season. You're also half a step to a step closer on rotations since he's so damn small.

    Last point is people are on here saying Brad Stevens can't coach?!  He's one of the top 5 in the NBA.  To get this group to where they are is remarkable.  This is the best I've ever seen Horford play.  Crowder and Bradley should be bench players but he's made them better.  He'll have them motivated and where it needs to show up is on the glass.

    Rosier and Smart will pack enough punch to be competitive.  Don't think the Celtics will try to muck it up with some scuffles but their play does the talking tonight.  If Thomas was playing, I'd take the first half on a spread of 14 at 7.5-8 but it might take some time for the Celtics to get comfortable on offense.

    100% agree with the angle that the public can't get this fat without regressing to the norm.  All these 75% public plays can't keep hitting with this volume of action.  I weighted this way too much betting CBB in the 15-16 season instead of just trying to pick winners but 16.5 is insane.




    Thanks for the post GH. Great points.

    To your point about Thomas being a 'midget'.

    While I don't promote the slang for  being short, it is a valid point.

    Colin Cowherd on his radio show (a square, but an intelligent one and the best listen on the radio when it comes to capping, again however square, he has some insightful commentary) was breaking down this series and he said something that struck me:

    "When do you see 'small' players dominate the NBA?" 
    "When do you see them with rings?" 
    "When do you feel they are dominating the league?" 

     His point was that the more talented, more experienced teams, bigger sized teams eventually overpower the 'smaller dominant player' (Curry as an exception as he is a once in a lifetime talent from the outside) that drives inside, that is, teams were finding ways to overcome IT and his scoring. And the Cavs were.

    Many here will respond with 'IVERSON!' And yes he was dominant per se. But with how many shots per game? People don't realize Larry Brown BUILT that team around him, assembling the perfect pieces to get them to the finals where they were CRUSHED by the more dominant, bigger Lakers team.

    Now we remove Thomas from the floor (And he wasn't the same player since his teeth go knocked out and as this poster noted, he wasn't the same in the playoffs either outside of the 53 point outburst, which was tied to the sister), and 'go big' per se, mix it up (and I trust Stevens to do so), and we can still hit a ton of threes with our big men. It's a nice change of pace. We get a different formula today the Cavs haven't seen.

    Again, the Cavs can DOMINATE them, win by 14 and we WIN with the Celtics!!! Who here doesn't understand that? Apparently many!

    A RECORD-SETTING Spread NEVER to be seen again in a decade, or DECADES, and you have posters here chirping 16/18/20 ...doesn't matter.

    WOW.

    The thread title is apropos because I've never seen so many people revert to a full-blown Square Seduction laying this gargantuan number!
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    I had to create an account so I could post on this.  Been gambling for a lot of years and I will be betting Boston +16.5 on principle.  I usually just do player props but this is an investment opportunity.

    Scalabrine-great write up, all situations I look for

    Regular season player stats don't mean anything in the playoffs.  I remember my barber telling me how Isaiah was gonna give the Cavs trouble two years ago in the first rd and I laughed.  Same crowd here if you think that Isaiah is a top 15 player in this league. Bottom line is the guy is a midget and doesn't get the duck in for contact calls on the road anyways.  Avg 8 ppg less on the road in playoffs than regular season. You're also half a step to a step closer on rotations since he's so damn small.

    Last point is people are on here saying Brad Stevens can't coach?!  He's one of the top 5 in the NBA.  To get this group to where they are is remarkable.  This is the best I've ever seen Horford play.  Crowder and Bradley should be bench players but he's made them better.  He'll have them motivated and where it needs to show up is on the glass.

    Rosier and Smart will pack enough punch to be competitive.  Don't think the Celtics will try to muck it up with some scuffles but their play does the talking tonight.  If Thomas was playing, I'd take the first half on a spread of 14 at 7.5-8 but it might take some time for the Celtics to get comfortable on offense.

    100% agree with the angle that the public can't get this fat without regressing to the norm.  All these 75% public plays can't keep hitting with this volume of action.  I weighted this way too much betting CBB in the 15-16 season instead of just trying to pick winners but 16.5 is insane.




    Thanks for the post GH. Great points.

    To your point about Thomas being a 'midget'.

    While I don't promote the slang for  being short, it is a valid point.

    Colin Cowherd on his radio show (a square, but an intelligent one and the best listen on the radio when it comes to capping, again however square, he has some insightful commentary) was breaking down this series and he said something that struck me:

    "When do you see 'small' players dominate the NBA?" 
    "When do you see them with rings?" 
    "When do you feel they are dominating the league?" 

     His point was that the more talented, more experienced teams, bigger sized teams eventually overpower the 'smaller dominant player' (Curry as an exception as he is a once in a lifetime talent from the outside) that drives inside, that is, teams were finding ways to overcome IT and his scoring. And the Cavs were.

    Many here will respond with 'IVERSON!' And yes he was dominant per se. But with how many shots per game? People don't realize Larry Brown BUILT that team around him, assembling the perfect pieces to get them to the finals where they were CRUSHED by the more dominant, bigger Lakers team.

    Now we remove Thomas from the floor (And he wasn't the same player since his teeth go knocked out and as this poster noted, he wasn't the same in the playoffs either outside of the 53 point outburst, which was tied to the sister), and 'go big' per se, mix it up (and I trust Stevens to do so), and we can still hit a ton of threes with our big men. It's a nice change of pace. We get a different formula today the Cavs haven't seen.

    Again, the Cavs can DOMINATE them, win by 14 and we WIN with the Celtics!!! Who here doesn't understand that? Apparently many!

    A RECORD-SETTING Spread NEVER to be seen again in a decade, or DECADES, and you have posters here chirping 16/18/20 ...doesn't matter.

    WOW.

    The thread title is apropos because I've never seen so many people revert to a full-blown Square Seduction laying this gargantuan number!
     
     
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