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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 2:18 AM ET #1076

    And Aerial, or anyone who is ignoring me - why is it that there is nothing written about Jesus when he was young?

    I mean here is the virgin birth, and then fast forward to when Jesus is an adult.  You would think that if that actually happened chronologically, someone would be documenting the god childs every move.  It sure seems possible that the the whole story was made up much later out of another agenda.  A fabricated story with holes in it.

    But what do I know.

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    And Aerial, or anyone who is ignoring me - why is it that there is nothing written about Jesus when he was young?

    I mean here is the virgin birth, and then fast forward to when Jesus is an adult.  You would think that if that actually happened chronologically, someone would be documenting the god childs every move.  It sure seems possible that the the whole story was made up much later out of another agenda.  A fabricated story with holes in it.

    But what do I know.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:26 AM ET #1077

    Rostos said it best: You either believe EVERYTHING in the bible or NOTHING.

    I find this interesting because vanzack, system, and others have posted bible verses that seem to directly contradict Christian ideals and Jesus' teachings. But they're in the bible, so they must be right...right? Rostos and SJD like to ignore these. So once again, Rostos contradicts himself.

    Rostos also said "you either have faith or you don't." And you know what, I can accept this answer because it's inherently irrational. If you are so lost in life and so mindless that you are willing to have faith without reason or justification, then go for it, have fun, waste your life away. I for one won't do anything or believe anything without logic or reason. But hey, that's just my opinion, right? Who am I to say logic and reason are relevant in society today?

    And SJD is saying vanzack is irrational for not accepting SJD's answers? SJD says to read the bible? We've already established that the bible is no more reliable than a Harry Potter book. But even if we grant it more credibility than it deserves, it doesn't give any answers. Like vanzack said, it states prophecies in one part, then they become fulfilled in another part. This doesn't answer anything. The bible provides no answers. Smartapple understands the purpose of the bible: to provide morals and ideals to live by, not to be taken literally. Do you really think Jesus was born of a virgin mother? Yet somehow that's NEVER happened any other time. Sure...you're NUTS if you do.
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    Rostos said it best: You either believe EVERYTHING in the bible or NOTHING.

    I find this interesting because vanzack, system, and others have posted bible verses that seem to directly contradict Christian ideals and Jesus' teachings. But they're in the bible, so they must be right...right? Rostos and SJD like to ignore these. So once again, Rostos contradicts himself.

    Rostos also said "you either have faith or you don't." And you know what, I can accept this answer because it's inherently irrational. If you are so lost in life and so mindless that you are willing to have faith without reason or justification, then go for it, have fun, waste your life away. I for one won't do anything or believe anything without logic or reason. But hey, that's just my opinion, right? Who am I to say logic and reason are relevant in society today?

    And SJD is saying vanzack is irrational for not accepting SJD's answers? SJD says to read the bible? We've already established that the bible is no more reliable than a Harry Potter book. But even if we grant it more credibility than it deserves, it doesn't give any answers. Like vanzack said, it states prophecies in one part, then they become fulfilled in another part. This doesn't answer anything. The bible provides no answers. Smartapple understands the purpose of the bible: to provide morals and ideals to live by, not to be taken literally. Do you really think Jesus was born of a virgin mother? Yet somehow that's NEVER happened any other time. Sure...you're NUTS if you do.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 9:41 AM ET #1078

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    yeah, i think we need to take it easy with the bin laden is going to hell talk.  first, as system indicates, if he found jesus or whatever he needed to do when our armed forces showed up and he knew his time was up, he goes to the christian heaven, as i udnerstand the rules. 

    alternatively, his religion and his god, which he followed more sincerely than most of the part-time, cherry picking christians out there follow their religion and their god, say that he goes to heaven for how he lived his life.  if he's right, and again, he's infinitely smarter and more resourceful than your average person, he's banging (or more likely, trying to tune out after banging) some virgins right now. 

    who doesn't think bin laden is in heaven and why not?  if anyone can shed some light on this question in a logical manner, i will convert to your religion and bring vanzack, KK, system, mwhit, hutch and caca with me. 



    I will bow down to any1 who thinks they can convert me to any Religious belief!!!  I personally think that religion and belief are in direct conflict w/ eachother in today's intellectual society!!! Maybe back in the day when my townsfolk explained to me that X was the way to believe (nazi's) then I probably would be persuaded. But I live and understand as well as THINK in this decade AND I truly KNOW any religious belief is simply JADED!!! If god really spoke to you then I'm guessing you're fucking nuts and all judicial courts would find you crazy!!! Maybe I should just bow down to the invisible concepts, but this fucking brain in my head tells me it's total BULLSHIT. Maybe I wish My Mind Couldn't Think, but Orwell taught me otherwise and I realize God is just as bullshit!!!

    As my boy Too Short explains LIFE IS......I guess everyone thinks they know the answer, while there IS NO ANSWER. Life EXISTS, shit happens, and to try to explain y life supports your opinion is complete foolishness!!!!
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    yeah, i think we need to take it easy with the bin laden is going to hell talk.  first, as system indicates, if he found jesus or whatever he needed to do when our armed forces showed up and he knew his time was up, he goes to the christian heaven, as i udnerstand the rules. 

    alternatively, his religion and his god, which he followed more sincerely than most of the part-time, cherry picking christians out there follow their religion and their god, say that he goes to heaven for how he lived his life.  if he's right, and again, he's infinitely smarter and more resourceful than your average person, he's banging (or more likely, trying to tune out after banging) some virgins right now. 

    who doesn't think bin laden is in heaven and why not?  if anyone can shed some light on this question in a logical manner, i will convert to your religion and bring vanzack, KK, system, mwhit, hutch and caca with me. 



    I will bow down to any1 who thinks they can convert me to any Religious belief!!!  I personally think that religion and belief are in direct conflict w/ eachother in today's intellectual society!!! Maybe back in the day when my townsfolk explained to me that X was the way to believe (nazi's) then I probably would be persuaded. But I live and understand as well as THINK in this decade AND I truly KNOW any religious belief is simply JADED!!! If god really spoke to you then I'm guessing you're fucking nuts and all judicial courts would find you crazy!!! Maybe I should just bow down to the invisible concepts, but this fucking brain in my head tells me it's total BULLSHIT. Maybe I wish My Mind Couldn't Think, but Orwell taught me otherwise and I realize God is just as bullshit!!!

    As my boy Too Short explains LIFE IS......I guess everyone thinks they know the answer, while there IS NO ANSWER. Life EXISTS, shit happens, and to try to explain y life supports your opinion is complete foolishness!!!!
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 9:43 AM ET #1079

    look what your god did here, rostos.  vanzack is not going to be pleased. 

    there are people who have lost relatives, their homes and everything they have due to extreme weather (which arguably your god can control) in the midwest and of course there are the  normal debilitating, terminal diseases that affect children all over the world, yet your god ignores them but chooses to show her all-encompassing power to answer this nut's prayers?  what do you have to say about that?

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    look what your god did here, rostos.  vanzack is not going to be pleased. 

    there are people who have lost relatives, their homes and everything they have due to extreme weather (which arguably your god can control) in the midwest and of course there are the  normal debilitating, terminal diseases that affect children all over the world, yet your god ignores them but chooses to show her all-encompassing power to answer this nut's prayers?  what do you have to say about that?

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 1:42 PM ET #1080

    The best part is, that family, those people, are so incredibly stupid and close-minded that they actually think god answered their prayers. They think god, in all his glory, spent his time and energy providing them with $1 million, while all those people you mentioned are sick and dying from "natural disasters."

    Those people are sickening and they're borderline worse than criminals for actually being that sick and twisted in the head.
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    The best part is, that family, those people, are so incredibly stupid and close-minded that they actually think god answered their prayers. They think god, in all his glory, spent his time and energy providing them with $1 million, while all those people you mentioned are sick and dying from "natural disasters."

    Those people are sickening and they're borderline worse than criminals for actually being that sick and twisted in the head.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 2:20 PM ET #1081

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    look what your god did here, rostos.  vanzack is not going to be pleased. 

    there are people who have lost relatives, their homes and everything they have due to extreme weather (which arguably your god can control) in the midwest and of course there are the  normal debilitating, terminal diseases that affect children all over the world, yet your god ignores them but chooses to show her all-encompassing power to answer this nut's prayers?  what do you have to say about that?

    give my mom a million dollars. if you want me to believe in you thats what you'll do.

    "the following day, the lord made it rain"

    now that i know hes buying believers, let the bidding begin

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    look what your god did here, rostos.  vanzack is not going to be pleased. 

    there are people who have lost relatives, their homes and everything they have due to extreme weather (which arguably your god can control) in the midwest and of course there are the  normal debilitating, terminal diseases that affect children all over the world, yet your god ignores them but chooses to show her all-encompassing power to answer this nut's prayers?  what do you have to say about that?

    give my mom a million dollars. if you want me to believe in you thats what you'll do.

    "the following day, the lord made it rain"

    now that i know hes buying believers, let the bidding begin

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 2:40 PM ET #1082

    Quote Originally Posted by misfits:

    give my mom a million dollars. if you want me to believe in you thats what you'll do.

    "the following day, the lord made it rain"

    now that i know hes buying believers, let the bidding begin


    I'll make it easy on you, God. If you make just $1 appear in my pocket tomorrow morning, I'll believe in you. $1...that's it. I mean, you gave this family $1 million to believe in you, all I'm asking for is one one-millionth of what you gave them. That's not unreasonable, right?
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    give my mom a million dollars. if you want me to believe in you thats what you'll do.

    "the following day, the lord made it rain"

    now that i know hes buying believers, let the bidding begin


    I'll make it easy on you, God. If you make just $1 appear in my pocket tomorrow morning, I'll believe in you. $1...that's it. I mean, you gave this family $1 million to believe in you, all I'm asking for is one one-millionth of what you gave them. That's not unreasonable, right?
     
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    The Book of Esther

    The author was Mordecai, (although some have suggested Ezra or Nehemiah, based on similarities in writing style) written around 470 B.C.

    With drama, intrigue, romance, and murder, the book of Esther tells of the near destruction of the Jewish people. It tells how a Jewish woman named Esther risked her life to save her people. Esther and her uncle lived in the land of Persia, where the person were in exile. After Vashti, queen of Persia, insulted her husband, the king, she was deposed, and the king began looking for a new queen. Esther was selected for her beauty, but she kept her Jewish nationality a secret. Meanwhile, a wicked man named Haman became the king's adviser and began plotting the extermination of all person in the empire. Esther's uncle learned of the plot and begged Esther to intervene, pleading, "Who knows if perhaps you were made queen for just such a time as this?" (4:14). So Esther risked her life and approached the king about the matter. The king heard her plea, and the person were saved, while Haman was hanged on a gallows he had prepared for Esther's uncle. The remarkable deliverance of the person is celebrated by the Jewish feast of Purim.

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    The Book of Esther

    The author was Mordecai, (although some have suggested Ezra or Nehemiah, based on similarities in writing style) written around 470 B.C.

    With drama, intrigue, romance, and murder, the book of Esther tells of the near destruction of the Jewish people. It tells how a Jewish woman named Esther risked her life to save her people. Esther and her uncle lived in the land of Persia, where the person were in exile. After Vashti, queen of Persia, insulted her husband, the king, she was deposed, and the king began looking for a new queen. Esther was selected for her beauty, but she kept her Jewish nationality a secret. Meanwhile, a wicked man named Haman became the king's adviser and began plotting the extermination of all person in the empire. Esther's uncle learned of the plot and begged Esther to intervene, pleading, "Who knows if perhaps you were made queen for just such a time as this?" (4:14). So Esther risked her life and approached the king about the matter. The king heard her plea, and the person were saved, while Haman was hanged on a gallows he had prepared for Esther's uncle. The remarkable deliverance of the person is celebrated by the Jewish feast of Purim.

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:43 PM ET #1084

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    I'll make it easy on you, God. If you make just $1 appear in my pocket tomorrow morning, I'll believe in you. $1...that's it. I mean, you gave this family $1 million to believe in you, all I'm asking for is one one-millionth of what you gave them. That's not unreasonable, right?

    KK, maybe you or vanzack can put some money in my pocket by telling me who is going to win the finals tomorrow.  i'll pray as well and let you know what i come up with.

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    I'll make it easy on you, God. If you make just $1 appear in my pocket tomorrow morning, I'll believe in you. $1...that's it. I mean, you gave this family $1 million to believe in you, all I'm asking for is one one-millionth of what you gave them. That's not unreasonable, right?

    KK, maybe you or vanzack can put some money in my pocket by telling me who is going to win the finals tomorrow.  i'll pray as well and let you know what i come up with.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 3:47 PM ET #1085

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    I was raised Jewish, went to Sunday School, had a Bar mitzvah. This was all injected into my head when I was young. I believed in god...then a strange thing happened. I started to think. And when I started to think (on my own, no outside influence), I realized what a bunch of horseshit this was. I proceeded with my bar mitzvah out of respect to my parents and that is the last time I have ever set foot in a temple.

    And I can guarantee I'm not the only one who was raised to believe in god but saw the lunacy in it on his own I grew older. So, if one proverb is a blatant, outright LIE (thou shalt not lie, looks like SJD just did, surely he's condemned to hell for all eternity now, right?), that means it's possible the entire story is bullshit...right?

    I can just imagine your poor parents being so disappointed and disgusted with you with your decision of never going back to the Temple. You probably never listened to your father when he corrected you and you probably neglected a lot of your mother's instructions.

    I haven't lied about anything on these threads, the Holy Bible is the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!

    My child, listen when you father corrects you. Don't neglect your mother's instruction. What you learn from them will crown you with grace and be a chain of honor around your neck. ---Proverbs 1:8-9

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

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    I was raised Jewish, went to Sunday School, had a Bar mitzvah. This was all injected into my head when I was young. I believed in god...then a strange thing happened. I started to think. And when I started to think (on my own, no outside influence), I realized what a bunch of horseshit this was. I proceeded with my bar mitzvah out of respect to my parents and that is the last time I have ever set foot in a temple.

    And I can guarantee I'm not the only one who was raised to believe in god but saw the lunacy in it on his own I grew older. So, if one proverb is a blatant, outright LIE (thou shalt not lie, looks like SJD just did, surely he's condemned to hell for all eternity now, right?), that means it's possible the entire story is bullshit...right?

    I can just imagine your poor parents being so disappointed and disgusted with you with your decision of never going back to the Temple. You probably never listened to your father when he corrected you and you probably neglected a lot of your mother's instructions.

    I haven't lied about anything on these threads, the Holy Bible is the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!

    My child, listen when you father corrects you. Don't neglect your mother's instruction. What you learn from them will crown you with grace and be a chain of honor around your neck. ---Proverbs 1:8-9

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

     
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    look what your god did here, rostos.  vanzack is not going to be pleased. 

    there are people who have lost relatives, their homes and everything they have due to extreme weather (which arguably your god can control) in the midwest and of course there are the  normal debilitating, terminal diseases that affect children all over the world, yet your god ignores them but chooses to show her all-encompassing power to answer this nut's prayers?  what do you have to say about that?

    after taxes and loss of disability assistance she would have been better off not winning
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    look what your god did here, rostos.  vanzack is not going to be pleased. 

    there are people who have lost relatives, their homes and everything they have due to extreme weather (which arguably your god can control) in the midwest and of course there are the  normal debilitating, terminal diseases that affect children all over the world, yet your god ignores them but chooses to show her all-encompassing power to answer this nut's prayers?  what do you have to say about that?

    after taxes and loss of disability assistance she would have been better off not winning
     
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    I can just imagine your poor parents being so disappointed and disgusted with you with your decision of never going back to the Temple. You probably never listened to your father when he corrected you and you probably neglected a lot of your mother's instructions.

    I haven't lied about anything on these threads, the Holy Bible is the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!

    My child, listen when you father corrects you. Don't neglect your mother's instruction. What you learn from them will crown you with grace and be a chain of honor around your neck. ---Proverbs 1:8-9

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

    dont you know person are going to hell too? person still abide by the old testament and think they are gods chosen people. why do you think the priests took jesus out? he was preaching that anyone could be saved, not just the person.
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    I can just imagine your poor parents being so disappointed and disgusted with you with your decision of never going back to the Temple. You probably never listened to your father when he corrected you and you probably neglected a lot of your mother's instructions.

    I haven't lied about anything on these threads, the Holy Bible is the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!

    My child, listen when you father corrects you. Don't neglect your mother's instruction. What you learn from them will crown you with grace and be a chain of honor around your neck. ---Proverbs 1:8-9

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

    dont you know person are going to hell too? person still abide by the old testament and think they are gods chosen people. why do you think the priests took jesus out? he was preaching that anyone could be saved, not just the person.
     
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    1.  Please enlighten me as to these prophecies that were filled by Jesus.  There are many many prophecies in the bible that have yet to be fulfilled. 

    2.  Are you saying you dont trust in the original books of the bible?..because I can say for one thing if you dont trust in those, you cant trust in God.  I dont think anybody that far back was trying to change Gods message.

    3.  Jesus was a leader by example for sure, when you say the way, the truth, and the life.  It sounds to me like Jesus was trying to bring consciousness to everyone surrounding him.  He wanted to get them to understand God through him, (but does that make him the messiah?)

    I think the christian religion is assuming Jesus did way more than he actually did.  Assuming things is not good.

    How can you possibly say that Jesus will have a second coming? How?.....Where in the Bible does it say that will happen?...Jesus was a teacher, he preached God, but that gets confused with everything else linked with him.

    the Bible was put here to read from and learn from.  Therefore I cannot accept many of the beliefs produced by many religions without proof.

    Its like somebody one day said Jesus will return as the messiah and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

    I feel we must evolve and grow using the bibles teachings, but in no way do i think we should assume other things for ourselves based on the bible.  We must learn from the bible.

    If 93% of the people today who say they are christians lived back in Jesus's time, I can almost assure you that that 93% would fall drastically. 






    1. Br. aerial gave you a whole list of prophecies fulfilled in an earlier post.

    2. I trust the entire Holy Bible, all 66 books, 39 books in the Old testament as well as 27 in the New Testament as the word of God, the message of God which is his instruction manual for all mankind.

    3. If you read the Old Testament it clearly speaks of a Messiah to come, then if you read the entire Book of Matthew, it will convince you that Jesus was indeed the Messiah who was prophesied to come in the Old Testament.

    4. Read the Book of Revelations, it tells of a 2nd coming of Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

    5. Yeah I can agree that many will fail, because the gates to heaven are narrow and not many will enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

    People with integrity walk safely, but those who follow crooked paths will slip and fall. ---Proverbs 10:9

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    1.  Please enlighten me as to these prophecies that were filled by Jesus.  There are many many prophecies in the bible that have yet to be fulfilled. 

    2.  Are you saying you dont trust in the original books of the bible?..because I can say for one thing if you dont trust in those, you cant trust in God.  I dont think anybody that far back was trying to change Gods message.

    3.  Jesus was a leader by example for sure, when you say the way, the truth, and the life.  It sounds to me like Jesus was trying to bring consciousness to everyone surrounding him.  He wanted to get them to understand God through him, (but does that make him the messiah?)

    I think the christian religion is assuming Jesus did way more than he actually did.  Assuming things is not good.

    How can you possibly say that Jesus will have a second coming? How?.....Where in the Bible does it say that will happen?...Jesus was a teacher, he preached God, but that gets confused with everything else linked with him.

    the Bible was put here to read from and learn from.  Therefore I cannot accept many of the beliefs produced by many religions without proof.

    Its like somebody one day said Jesus will return as the messiah and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

    I feel we must evolve and grow using the bibles teachings, but in no way do i think we should assume other things for ourselves based on the bible.  We must learn from the bible.

    If 93% of the people today who say they are christians lived back in Jesus's time, I can almost assure you that that 93% would fall drastically. 






    1. Br. aerial gave you a whole list of prophecies fulfilled in an earlier post.

    2. I trust the entire Holy Bible, all 66 books, 39 books in the Old testament as well as 27 in the New Testament as the word of God, the message of God which is his instruction manual for all mankind.

    3. If you read the Old Testament it clearly speaks of a Messiah to come, then if you read the entire Book of Matthew, it will convince you that Jesus was indeed the Messiah who was prophesied to come in the Old Testament.

    4. Read the Book of Revelations, it tells of a 2nd coming of Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

    5. Yeah I can agree that many will fail, because the gates to heaven are narrow and not many will enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

    People with integrity walk safely, but those who follow crooked paths will slip and fall. ---Proverbs 10:9

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by misfits:

    dont you know person are going to hell too? person still abide by the old testament and think they are gods chosen people. why do you think the priests took jesus out? he was preaching that anyone could be saved, not just the person.

    Yes, I know all about the person. They don't accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah and they believe the Messiah hasn't come yet.

     I was speaking in the point of view of sister's kittykat parents...on how they must have been very disappointed and disgusted with him.

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    dont you know person are going to hell too? person still abide by the old testament and think they are gods chosen people. why do you think the priests took jesus out? he was preaching that anyone could be saved, not just the person.

    Yes, I know all about the person. They don't accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah and they believe the Messiah hasn't come yet.

     I was speaking in the point of view of sister's kittykat parents...on how they must have been very disappointed and disgusted with him.

    Guard your heart above all else, for it determines the course of your life. ---Proverbs 4:23

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Correction:  I was speaking in the point of view of sister's kittykat parents...on how they must have been very disappointed and disgusted with her.

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    Correction:  I was speaking in the point of view of sister's kittykat parents...on how they must have been very disappointed and disgusted with her.

     
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    No my parents don't care because they're intelligent people as well. In fact, I really don't know anyone that believes in god. 90% of my friends are intelligent and as we know, there is a direct correlation between atheism and IQ (a positive ratio, real studies have been done, I'm not making this up). It's not like my parents swayed me one way or another. They performed their parental duties and gave me a taste of culture and I naturally rejected it because it is a bunch of bullshit. As a matter of fact, I don't think either of my parents have been to a temple since then either. They only did it for me. My mom kinda just went along with it for a while until she realized her kids didn't care. My dad never truly believed, but didn't wanna force me to not believe like him so he let me decide on my own (and like I said, did not influence me at all). Luckily, I am intelligent.

    For example: you just responded to smartapple with a bunch of bullshit. Like vanzack said, YOU CAN'T STATE PROPHECIES WITHIN A BOOK AND FULFILL THEM WITHIN THE SAME BOOK. THAT IS NOT FULFILLING PROPHECIES.

    And, as we know with 100% certainty, the bible was written by MAN so therefore, it is just as reliable as...my good friend, Harry Potter.

    And for the record, SJD, I am actually male, so you can refer to me as "brother." No attack on you there as many people mistakenly believe I am a girl because of my name, which is understandable. (But, come on, do you really think a woman could articulate arguments as well as I can lol)
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    No my parents don't care because they're intelligent people as well. In fact, I really don't know anyone that believes in god. 90% of my friends are intelligent and as we know, there is a direct correlation between atheism and IQ (a positive ratio, real studies have been done, I'm not making this up). It's not like my parents swayed me one way or another. They performed their parental duties and gave me a taste of culture and I naturally rejected it because it is a bunch of bullshit. As a matter of fact, I don't think either of my parents have been to a temple since then either. They only did it for me. My mom kinda just went along with it for a while until she realized her kids didn't care. My dad never truly believed, but didn't wanna force me to not believe like him so he let me decide on my own (and like I said, did not influence me at all). Luckily, I am intelligent.

    For example: you just responded to smartapple with a bunch of bullshit. Like vanzack said, YOU CAN'T STATE PROPHECIES WITHIN A BOOK AND FULFILL THEM WITHIN THE SAME BOOK. THAT IS NOT FULFILLING PROPHECIES.

    And, as we know with 100% certainty, the bible was written by MAN so therefore, it is just as reliable as...my good friend, Harry Potter.

    And for the record, SJD, I am actually male, so you can refer to me as "brother." No attack on you there as many people mistakenly believe I am a girl because of my name, which is understandable. (But, come on, do you really think a woman could articulate arguments as well as I can lol)
     
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    And btw, as society progresses and people become more intelligent and know more and more, atheism is on the rise.

    https://www.atheistempire.com/reference/stats/index.php

    Some interesting statistics:

    https://rationalistsblog.net/2010/02/23/interesting-atheism-statistics/
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    And btw, as society progresses and people become more intelligent and know more and more, atheism is on the rise.

    https://www.atheistempire.com/reference/stats/index.php

    Some interesting statistics:

    https://rationalistsblog.net/2010/02/23/interesting-atheism-statistics/
     
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    For example:  YOU CAN'T STATE PROPHECIES WITHIN A BOOK AND FULFILL THEM WITHIN THE SAME BOOK. THAT IS NOT FULFILLING PROPHECIES.

    And, as we know with 100% certainty, the bible was written by MAN so therefore, it is just as reliable as...my good friend, Harry Potter.

    And for the record, SJD, I am actually male, so you can refer to me as "brother." No attack on you there as many people mistakenly believe I am a girl because of my name, which is understandable. (But, come on, do you really think a woman could articulate arguments as well as I can lol)

    Yes, you can fulfill prophecies in the same book because the book were written over a large span of centuries. The first book Genesis written by Moses, written in 1450-1410 B.C. and the last book of Revelations written in A.D. 95 by John the Apostle.

     God used many authors...as many as forty writers--over a time period of many centuries to write the sixty-six books of the Bible.

    Yeah because of the name I assumed you were of the gurly gender...lol

    c'mon now there are women out there who are very well spoken for and very articulate...but then again you might be right because they are just a small minority...lol...jkd gurls!...lol

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    For example:  YOU CAN'T STATE PROPHECIES WITHIN A BOOK AND FULFILL THEM WITHIN THE SAME BOOK. THAT IS NOT FULFILLING PROPHECIES.

    And, as we know with 100% certainty, the bible was written by MAN so therefore, it is just as reliable as...my good friend, Harry Potter.

    And for the record, SJD, I am actually male, so you can refer to me as "brother." No attack on you there as many people mistakenly believe I am a girl because of my name, which is understandable. (But, come on, do you really think a woman could articulate arguments as well as I can lol)

    Yes, you can fulfill prophecies in the same book because the book were written over a large span of centuries. The first book Genesis written by Moses, written in 1450-1410 B.C. and the last book of Revelations written in A.D. 95 by John the Apostle.

     God used many authors...as many as forty writers--over a time period of many centuries to write the sixty-six books of the Bible.

    Yeah because of the name I assumed you were of the gurly gender...lol

    c'mon now there are women out there who are very well spoken for and very articulate...but then again you might be right because they are just a small minority...lol...jkd gurls!...lol

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    So it is really not just one book but 66 books compiled to make one book.

    If you help the poor, you are lending to the Lord---and he will repay you!

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    So it is really not just one book but 66 books compiled to make one book.

    If you help the poor, you are lending to the Lord---and he will repay you!

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 10 of 23. The CAUSE of Peace and Happiness

    It is a law as real, as inflexibly relentless as gravity! It governs and regulated all human relationships!

    Why should it seem incongruous that man's Maker---the Creator of all matter, force, and energy---the Creator of the laws of physics and chemistry, gravity and inertia---should also have created and set in motion this spiritual law to cause every good result for man?

    If the Creator is a God of love---if our Maker is a God of all power---could he possibly have done otherwise? Coud he have neglected to provide a way---a cause---to produce peace, happiness, prosperity, successful lives? There has to be a cause for every effect.

    If there is to be peace, happiness, abundant well-being, something must cause it! God could not be God without providing a cause for every desired good.

    Isn't it about time we realized that in love for the mankind he created, God also created and set inexorably in motion this spiritual law to provide the cause of every good result?

    Let's recapitulate: death is the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law! To transgress this law is to reject the way that would cause the good all humans want---to turn to the way that causes every evil result. God forbade Adam and Eve to take the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, under penalty of death.

    Why? Because he wanted them to choose the way of every desired good---because he wanted them to avoid causing evils, sorrows, pains, suffering, unhappiness. Therefore, taking this fruit was symbolic of transgressing God's spiritual law!

    To have taken of the tree of life would have been merely symbolic of receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit, the very love of God (Rom. 5:5) which fulfills this spiritual law (Rom. 13:10) and which God gives only to those who strive to obey his law (Acts 5:32).

    Consider further: A just God could not have warned the first humans of the death penalty without having fully revealed to them the spiritual law---the law later codified as the Ten Commandments---the transgression of which carried that penalty. Bear in mind that the details are not written here---only the highly condensed overall summary of what God taught them.

    So God had explained fully to Adam and Eve his way of life---the "give way"---his inexorable spiritual law. God had already set in motion the law that causes all good. He had explained also the way that causes evils---the transgression of that law---else he could not have told them that for transgression they would surely pay the penalty---death.

    More clearly stated, God gave man his own choice. He could choose to cause every good and to receive eternal life in happiness. Or, he could choose to cause evils. It is humanity---not God---that causes all the evils that befall man. The choice is man's. What man sows, that does he reap.

    Yet here's the crucial point: It was necessary for them to take his word for it---the spiritual law is as invisible as gravity and inertia! they could not see this law. But God had told them the way of good, and the way of evil.

    Now come to chapter 3 in Genesis.

    "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (verse 1).

    Much of the Bible is in symbols---but the Bible explains its own symbols. It is, of course, very out-of-date to believe in a devil today, but the Bible plainly speaks of a devil, named Satan. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, the symbol of a serpent is plainly explained to represent the devil.

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    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 10 of 23. The CAUSE of Peace and Happiness

    It is a law as real, as inflexibly relentless as gravity! It governs and regulated all human relationships!

    Why should it seem incongruous that man's Maker---the Creator of all matter, force, and energy---the Creator of the laws of physics and chemistry, gravity and inertia---should also have created and set in motion this spiritual law to cause every good result for man?

    If the Creator is a God of love---if our Maker is a God of all power---could he possibly have done otherwise? Coud he have neglected to provide a way---a cause---to produce peace, happiness, prosperity, successful lives? There has to be a cause for every effect.

    If there is to be peace, happiness, abundant well-being, something must cause it! God could not be God without providing a cause for every desired good.

    Isn't it about time we realized that in love for the mankind he created, God also created and set inexorably in motion this spiritual law to provide the cause of every good result?

    Let's recapitulate: death is the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law! To transgress this law is to reject the way that would cause the good all humans want---to turn to the way that causes every evil result. God forbade Adam and Eve to take the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, under penalty of death.

    Why? Because he wanted them to choose the way of every desired good---because he wanted them to avoid causing evils, sorrows, pains, suffering, unhappiness. Therefore, taking this fruit was symbolic of transgressing God's spiritual law!

    To have taken of the tree of life would have been merely symbolic of receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit, the very love of God (Rom. 5:5) which fulfills this spiritual law (Rom. 13:10) and which God gives only to those who strive to obey his law (Acts 5:32).

    Consider further: A just God could not have warned the first humans of the death penalty without having fully revealed to them the spiritual law---the law later codified as the Ten Commandments---the transgression of which carried that penalty. Bear in mind that the details are not written here---only the highly condensed overall summary of what God taught them.

    So God had explained fully to Adam and Eve his way of life---the "give way"---his inexorable spiritual law. God had already set in motion the law that causes all good. He had explained also the way that causes evils---the transgression of that law---else he could not have told them that for transgression they would surely pay the penalty---death.

    More clearly stated, God gave man his own choice. He could choose to cause every good and to receive eternal life in happiness. Or, he could choose to cause evils. It is humanity---not God---that causes all the evils that befall man. The choice is man's. What man sows, that does he reap.

    Yet here's the crucial point: It was necessary for them to take his word for it---the spiritual law is as invisible as gravity and inertia! they could not see this law. But God had told them the way of good, and the way of evil.

    Now come to chapter 3 in Genesis.

    "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (verse 1).

    Much of the Bible is in symbols---but the Bible explains its own symbols. It is, of course, very out-of-date to believe in a devil today, but the Bible plainly speaks of a devil, named Satan. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, the symbol of a serpent is plainly explained to represent the devil.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 10 of 23. The CAUSE of Peace and Happiness

    It is a law as real, as inflexibly relentless as gravity! It governs and regulated all human relationships!

    Why should it seem incongruous that man's Maker---the Creator of all matter, force, and energy---the Creator of the laws of physics and chemistry, gravity and inertia---should also have created and set in motion this spiritual law to cause every good result for man?

    If the Creator is a God of love---if our Maker is a God of all power---could he possibly have done otherwise? Coud he have neglected to provide a way---a cause---to produce peace, happiness, prosperity, successful lives? There has to be a cause for every effect.

    If there is to be peace, happiness, abundant well-being, something must cause it! God could not be God without providing a cause for every desired good.

    Isn't it about time we realized that in love for the mankind he created, God also created and set inexorably in motion this spiritual law to provide the cause of every good result?

    Let's recapitulate: death is the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law! To transgress this law is to reject the way that would cause the good all humans want---to turn to the way that causes every evil result. God forbade Adam and Eve to take the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, under penalty of death.

    Why? Because he wanted them to choose the way of every desired good---because he wanted them to avoid causing evils, sorrows, pains, suffering, unhappiness. Therefore, taking this fruit was symbolic of transgressing God's spiritual law!

    To have taken of the tree of life would have been merely symbolic of receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit, the very love of God (Rom. 5:5) which fulfills this spiritual law (Rom. 13:10) and which God gives only to those who strive to obey his law (Acts 5:32).

    Consider further: A just God could not have warned the first humans of the death penalty without having fully revealed to them the spiritual law---the law later codified as the Ten Commandments---the transgression of which carried that penalty. Bear in mind that the details are not written here---only the highly condensed overall summary of what God taught them.

    So God had explained fully to Adam and Eve his way of life---the "give way"---his inexorable spiritual law. God had already set in motion the law that causes all good. He had explained also the way that causes evils---the transgression of that law---else he could not have told them that for transgression they would surely pay the penalty---death.

    More clearly stated, God gave man his own choice. He could choose to cause every good and to receive eternal life in happiness. Or, he could choose to cause evils. It is humanity---not God---that causes all the evils that befall man. The choice is man's. What man sows, that does he reap.

    Yet here's the crucial point: It was necessary for them to take his word for it---the spiritual law is as invisible as gravity and inertia! they could not see this law. But God had told them the way of good, and the way of evil.

    Now come to chapter 3 in Genesis.

    "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (verse 1).

    Much of the Bible is in symbols---but the Bible explains its own symbols. It is, of course, very out-of-date to believe in a devil today, but the Bible plainly speaks of a devil, named Satan. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, the symbol of a serpent is plainly explained to represent the devil.

    I picture SJD posting this from his cell in the institution
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    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 10 of 23. The CAUSE of Peace and Happiness

    It is a law as real, as inflexibly relentless as gravity! It governs and regulated all human relationships!

    Why should it seem incongruous that man's Maker---the Creator of all matter, force, and energy---the Creator of the laws of physics and chemistry, gravity and inertia---should also have created and set in motion this spiritual law to cause every good result for man?

    If the Creator is a God of love---if our Maker is a God of all power---could he possibly have done otherwise? Coud he have neglected to provide a way---a cause---to produce peace, happiness, prosperity, successful lives? There has to be a cause for every effect.

    If there is to be peace, happiness, abundant well-being, something must cause it! God could not be God without providing a cause for every desired good.

    Isn't it about time we realized that in love for the mankind he created, God also created and set inexorably in motion this spiritual law to provide the cause of every good result?

    Let's recapitulate: death is the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law! To transgress this law is to reject the way that would cause the good all humans want---to turn to the way that causes every evil result. God forbade Adam and Eve to take the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, under penalty of death.

    Why? Because he wanted them to choose the way of every desired good---because he wanted them to avoid causing evils, sorrows, pains, suffering, unhappiness. Therefore, taking this fruit was symbolic of transgressing God's spiritual law!

    To have taken of the tree of life would have been merely symbolic of receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit, the very love of God (Rom. 5:5) which fulfills this spiritual law (Rom. 13:10) and which God gives only to those who strive to obey his law (Acts 5:32).

    Consider further: A just God could not have warned the first humans of the death penalty without having fully revealed to them the spiritual law---the law later codified as the Ten Commandments---the transgression of which carried that penalty. Bear in mind that the details are not written here---only the highly condensed overall summary of what God taught them.

    So God had explained fully to Adam and Eve his way of life---the "give way"---his inexorable spiritual law. God had already set in motion the law that causes all good. He had explained also the way that causes evils---the transgression of that law---else he could not have told them that for transgression they would surely pay the penalty---death.

    More clearly stated, God gave man his own choice. He could choose to cause every good and to receive eternal life in happiness. Or, he could choose to cause evils. It is humanity---not God---that causes all the evils that befall man. The choice is man's. What man sows, that does he reap.

    Yet here's the crucial point: It was necessary for them to take his word for it---the spiritual law is as invisible as gravity and inertia! they could not see this law. But God had told them the way of good, and the way of evil.

    Now come to chapter 3 in Genesis.

    "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (verse 1).

    Much of the Bible is in symbols---but the Bible explains its own symbols. It is, of course, very out-of-date to believe in a devil today, but the Bible plainly speaks of a devil, named Satan. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, the symbol of a serpent is plainly explained to represent the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 10 of 23. The CAUSE of Peace and Happiness

    It is a law as real, as inflexibly relentless as gravity! It governs and regulated all human relationships!

    Why should it seem incongruous that man's Maker---the Creator of all matter, force, and energy---the Creator of the laws of physics and chemistry, gravity and inertia---should also have created and set in motion this spiritual law to cause every good result for man?

    If the Creator is a God of love---if our Maker is a God of all power---could he possibly have done otherwise? Coud he have neglected to provide a way---a cause---to produce peace, happiness, prosperity, successful lives? There has to be a cause for every effect.

    If there is to be peace, happiness, abundant well-being, something must cause it! God could not be God without providing a cause for every desired good.

    Isn't it about time we realized that in love for the mankind he created, God also created and set inexorably in motion this spiritual law to provide the cause of every good result?

    Let's recapitulate: death is the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law! To transgress this law is to reject the way that would cause the good all humans want---to turn to the way that causes every evil result. God forbade Adam and Eve to take the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, under penalty of death.

    Why? Because he wanted them to choose the way of every desired good---because he wanted them to avoid causing evils, sorrows, pains, suffering, unhappiness. Therefore, taking this fruit was symbolic of transgressing God's spiritual law!

    To have taken of the tree of life would have been merely symbolic of receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit, the very love of God (Rom. 5:5) which fulfills this spiritual law (Rom. 13:10) and which God gives only to those who strive to obey his law (Acts 5:32).

    Consider further: A just God could not have warned the first humans of the death penalty without having fully revealed to them the spiritual law---the law later codified as the Ten Commandments---the transgression of which carried that penalty. Bear in mind that the details are not written here---only the highly condensed overall summary of what God taught them.

    So God had explained fully to Adam and Eve his way of life---the "give way"---his inexorable spiritual law. God had already set in motion the law that causes all good. He had explained also the way that causes evils---the transgression of that law---else he could not have told them that for transgression they would surely pay the penalty---death.

    More clearly stated, God gave man his own choice. He could choose to cause every good and to receive eternal life in happiness. Or, he could choose to cause evils. It is humanity---not God---that causes all the evils that befall man. The choice is man's. What man sows, that does he reap.

    Yet here's the crucial point: It was necessary for them to take his word for it---the spiritual law is as invisible as gravity and inertia! they could not see this law. But God had told them the way of good, and the way of evil.

    Now come to chapter 3 in Genesis.

    "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (verse 1).

    Much of the Bible is in symbols---but the Bible explains its own symbols. It is, of course, very out-of-date to believe in a devil today, but the Bible plainly speaks of a devil, named Satan. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, the symbol of a serpent is plainly explained to represent the devil.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 10 of 23. The CAUSE of Peace and Happiness

    It is a law as real, as inflexibly relentless as gravity! It governs and regulated all human relationships!

    Why should it seem incongruous that man's Maker---the Creator of all matter, force, and energy---the Creator of the laws of physics and chemistry, gravity and inertia---should also have created and set in motion this spiritual law to cause every good result for man?

    If the Creator is a God of love---if our Maker is a God of all power---could he possibly have done otherwise? Coud he have neglected to provide a way---a cause---to produce peace, happiness, prosperity, successful lives? There has to be a cause for every effect.

    If there is to be peace, happiness, abundant well-being, something must cause it! God could not be God without providing a cause for every desired good.

    Isn't it about time we realized that in love for the mankind he created, God also created and set inexorably in motion this spiritual law to provide the cause of every good result?

    Let's recapitulate: death is the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law! To transgress this law is to reject the way that would cause the good all humans want---to turn to the way that causes every evil result. God forbade Adam and Eve to take the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, under penalty of death.

    Why? Because he wanted them to choose the way of every desired good---because he wanted them to avoid causing evils, sorrows, pains, suffering, unhappiness. Therefore, taking this fruit was symbolic of transgressing God's spiritual law!

    To have taken of the tree of life would have been merely symbolic of receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit, the very love of God (Rom. 5:5) which fulfills this spiritual law (Rom. 13:10) and which God gives only to those who strive to obey his law (Acts 5:32).

    Consider further: A just God could not have warned the first humans of the death penalty without having fully revealed to them the spiritual law---the law later codified as the Ten Commandments---the transgression of which carried that penalty. Bear in mind that the details are not written here---only the highly condensed overall summary of what God taught them.

    So God had explained fully to Adam and Eve his way of life---the "give way"---his inexorable spiritual law. God had already set in motion the law that causes all good. He had explained also the way that causes evils---the transgression of that law---else he could not have told them that for transgression they would surely pay the penalty---death.

    More clearly stated, God gave man his own choice. He could choose to cause every good and to receive eternal life in happiness. Or, he could choose to cause evils. It is humanity---not God---that causes all the evils that befall man. The choice is man's. What man sows, that does he reap.

    Yet here's the crucial point: It was necessary for them to take his word for it---the spiritual law is as invisible as gravity and inertia! they could not see this law. But God had told them the way of good, and the way of evil.

    Now come to chapter 3 in Genesis.

    "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (verse 1).

    Much of the Bible is in symbols---but the Bible explains its own symbols. It is, of course, very out-of-date to believe in a devil today, but the Bible plainly speaks of a devil, named Satan. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, the symbol of a serpent is plainly explained to represent the devil.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    A Victorian man has pleaded guilty to brutally murdering his niece with a hammer, saying bushranger Ned Kelly inspired him to enter a plea.

    Gavin John Brooker, 52, of Benalla, attacked Annette Brooker, 31, with a hammer before stabbing her in the chest during an argument at her flat in February.

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    I really like what the above guy did, good stuff.

    Well done. I completely agree with what he did.

    Talk about not getting a response from the atheists....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    A Victorian man has pleaded guilty to brutally murdering his niece with a hammer, saying bushranger Ned Kelly inspired him to enter a plea.

    Gavin John Brooker, 52, of Benalla, attacked Annette Brooker, 31, with a hammer before stabbing her in the chest during an argument at her flat in February.

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    I really like what the above guy did, good stuff.

    Well done. I completely agree with what he did.

    Talk about not getting a response from the atheists....

     
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    The thing is, i made those comments above in light of an atheistic world view (no absolute morals) and the lack of response confirms the atheistic view (i knew no body would bite and say "i am wrong for what i said cause of what we have discussed"). Here is the thing, if an outsider came and and viewed my comment on the above article and saw a lack of comment or No comment at all by the non believers here saying how messed up i am and that i am wrong for thinking what i did, the neutral observer will think we are all f###ed up and messed up. Me for my comments, but more importantly, the rest of you for not "bashing" me for my comments.

    See how f####ed up and irrational it is to live in an atheistic world?

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    The thing is, i made those comments above in light of an atheistic world view (no absolute morals) and the lack of response confirms the atheistic view (i knew no body would bite and say "i am wrong for what i said cause of what we have discussed"). Here is the thing, if an outsider came and and viewed my comment on the above article and saw a lack of comment or No comment at all by the non believers here saying how messed up i am and that i am wrong for thinking what i did, the neutral observer will think we are all f###ed up and messed up. Me for my comments, but more importantly, the rest of you for not "bashing" me for my comments.

    See how f####ed up and irrational it is to live in an atheistic world?

     
     
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    In the atheistic world, if i said that I think Denise Richards is better looking than Carmen Electra, it is not different to me saying raping little girls is good.

    Hey, remember, there are no absolutes, everything is subjective. Each person decides what is right as there are no absolutes, isnt that right atheists....?

    No different at all.

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    In the atheistic world, if i said that I think Denise Richards is better looking than Carmen Electra, it is not different to me saying raping little girls is good.

    Hey, remember, there are no absolutes, everything is subjective. Each person decides what is right as there are no absolutes, isnt that right atheists....?

    No different at all.

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