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A Victorian man has pleaded guilty to brutally murdering his niece with a hammer, saying bushranger Ned Kelly inspired him to enter a plea.

Gavin John Brooker, 52, of Benalla, attacked Annette Brooker, 31, with a hammer before stabbing her in the chest during an argument at her flat in February.

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I really like what the above guy did, good stuff.

Well done. I completely agree with what he did.

Society has determined that killing someone in most circumstances is immoral.  If you like what the guy did, super.  Good for you.  Who cares if you like what he did?  Society will process the guy as immoral, and he will  deal with the law.  Your opinion makes no difference because you are outnumbered by humanity.

What is so hard to understand?

Oh, so now I have the wrong VERSION of the bible.

Care to tell me the correct version of the bible so I can requote those?

Come on Larry, you have got to be kidding?  Thats all you got?

Hey Larry - is the King James Version OK with you?

⁴⁵Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

⁴⁶And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

Hey Moe - I answered yours, now why dont you answer mine?

(5th repost, 5th time ignored)

Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

br.Kitty again you are not understanding. Those writers did not speak directly to God like two people having a normal conversation...lol

 

But rather he inspired them to write what was written.

 

The Bible is the very word from God. It came from God himself---he is the author. Over hundreds of years, he chose certain individuals to write down exactly what he wanted to tell humankind.

 

This process is called "inspiration." One of Jesus closest followers, Peter wrote, "Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet's own understanding, or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God" (2 Peter 1:20-21).

 

Furthermore in the New Testament, several of Jesus Christ disciples wrote their books or Gospels about the life of Jesus Christ whom they had followed and witnessed the miracles he performed healing the sick, making the blind see again, cripples walking again but the real clincher was when they witnessed his crucifixion and then 3 days later witnessed his resurrection from the dead which in their own eyes proved to them he was the Son of God.

 

He then commanded them to spread the word, the Good News, the Gospel, which they did regardless that their lives would be in danger. Many of them were crucified themselves for spreading Christianity.

 

Now tell me why would they do this if Jesus Christ was a fake? They were getting persecuted spreading the word!! All that is in history books about the persecutions they suffered.

So are you going to argue that even the history books are false? Wake up! there is still time to believe, to have faith, in Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

 

Praise the Lord Almighty!!

 

 

 

 

Hey Curly, thanks for clarifying that God actually did write the following:

²⁰ There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

God must be a big fan of porn!!

vanzack, since you are the aristophren of Christianity, your Hebrew and Greek have been absent from the conversation.  Anurag Dikshit is not pleased with your maledicent sermocination and claims.

Logical points of inconsistency will not be tolerated.  They will not even be acknowledged.

They will be ignored, twisted, or misunderstood.

What is the version Larry?  You havent answered.

Put away your thesaurus, and answer the question.

Where did Moe run off to?

I am sensing an incredibly moronic post to my question about slavery is being formulated as I type.

I am flush with anticipation.

So your point is that if I obtain the scrolls, I would see that there was no slavery in the bible?

OK Larry.  So the scrolls are the only acceptable version?  So all of the posts by Moe and Curly are null and void - and 99% of the christian world also follows a book that is invalid?

Please stop.  My sides hurt.

vanzack, after 46 pages, could you please not stand behind "I don't know" and prove that God does not exist. The floor is yours.....

Why?  Because you ask me to?  It is up to me to prove that god doesnt exist?  Why is this my responsibility?  Do I have to prove that dragons and unicorns dont exist either? 

Larry, you have proven yourself a fool in this thread.  A longwinded fool with a thesaurus, but a fool nonetheless - with some flavor of crazy mixed in.

Once again for you br. kitty: God inspired the writers to write down exactly what he wanted to tell humankind.

The definition of the word inspired when associated with God is defined as: to cause, guide, communicate, or motivate as by divine or supernatural influence.

Do you have anything to say about Jesus Christ disciples?...wait, I already know what you are going to say.

Those who trust in the Lord are as secure as Mount Zion; they will not be defeated but will endure forever. ---Psalm 125:1

Praise the Lord Almighty!!

"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelled your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?"

"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."

"Yet you still believe in him?"

"Yes."

"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"

"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."

"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"

"Yes."

"And is there such a thing as cold?"

"Yes, son, there's cold too."

"No sir, there isn't."

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested.  

The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain, "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.  Everybody or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.   Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat.  We cannot measure cold.  Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"

"Yes,"  the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word.  In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"

"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.  Sir, science can't even explain a thought.  It uses electricity and20magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.  To view death as the opposite of life is t o be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.  Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it. 

"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"

"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."

"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir?  Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."  The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" 

The class breaks out into laughter.

"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain?  No one appears to have done so.  So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.  So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust you r lectures, sir?"

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."

"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues.  "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"

Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course, there is.  We see it every day.  It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man.  It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world.  These manifestations are nothing else but evil."