Jesus was a great teacher, plain and simple. He was so good at what he did, that people really actually believed he had god within him.
But he did, WE ALL DO.
That part of the bible where he says me and god are one. If you actually think he meant he had a relationship with god like you do with your mom and dad your nuts.
What he meant by that is he has gods message within him. He is a living model of what god wanted in mankind. Does that mean he is gods actual son? NO and you are fucking nuts if you dont see that
When jesus would refer to god as father, everybody takes it way too literally, I dont think he was reffering to god as his actual father. Its like when you call your priest father. Jesus even said
“And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven”
Ok, well if he is YOUR father jesus why are you also telling us he is OUR fater....the answer to that is because he is ALL our fathers. Jesus IS NOT the actual son of god. Thats insane
A very very gifted spiritual teacher- yes
but when people start taking things to literally and one person says something and everyone follows..this creates a mess.
And like i said before if 93% of our country today believes in the christian religion....what do you think would happen if we took those same 93% back to jesus's time and let them make the same decision of what relgion to follow. Back in Jesus's time lots of people did not believe he was the messiah.
Ok, so do you believe Jesus performed miracles? 
You either have faith in it or you dont.
I have established than man has faith in alot of things that he does, its wether you want to put your faith in Christ.
If you want to take the line that because it is written by man it should be discounted, then anything that anyone writes anywhere by man should be discounted?
Ok, so do you believe Jesus performed miracles?
No, that doesnt bother me. You would think there would be but that doesnt bother me. It is recorded in the word of God, that is good enough for me.
You cant apply logic to humans all the time.
97% of people lose when they gamble, so why do they still gamble?
It is very clear to me that God wants us to live a life by pure faith and free will. By this it is our own decision to turn to Christ. No one is forcing us, u make the choice.
If God revealed himself everyday via a cross in the sky or something, it would defeat the purpose of faith and furthermore it would restrict free will.
Just like if i want to speed and there is a policeman behind me, i aint gonna do it. But if i cant physically see him, i will do it, even though i know its wrong.
In the old testament we see God talking directly to people and performing miracles, ie, parting of the red sea.
after Christ (new testament), it marked a new era where man should live by faith
It is very clear to me that God wants us to live a life by pure faith and free will. By this it is our own decision to turn to Christ. No one is forcing us, u make the choice.
If God revealed himself everyday via a cross in the sky or something, it would defeat the purpose of faith and furthermore it would restrict free will.
Just like if i want to speed and there is a policeman behind me, i aint gonna do it. But if i cant physically see him, i will do it, even though i know its wrong.
In the old testament we see God talking directly to people and performing miracles, ie, parting of the red sea.
after Christ (new testament), it marked a new era where man should live by faith
Really dude, are you serious?.....I believe the exact opposite. Pure faith and free will goes against the bible. Hence why there is so much war and destruction from religion in the worlds existence.
God gave us a book of truth, the bible. I believe in creation and the old testament. I will not try to say that something happened, if i can not prove it through the bible.
That is where our earth went wrong. Everybody can not just believe what is written, its like greed takes over in humans and we want more and more answers so we make them up. That is NOT the answer.
Religion is deceiving, but it cant be good. The Old Testament, God, Love, and the message god gave us to master the Earth and evolve as human beings is what we should believe in
Just like I thought.
Rostos and SJD totally ignore the video I posted.
Just like everything else they ignore.
I give.
What I have come to realize about you is that no matter how we answer you, you are just not satisfied with any responses. That leads me to believe you are a very stubborn, irrational person who is totally incapable of having any kind of discussion with.
You brother van need help in understanding and comprehending what you read.
I suggest you read the Holy Bible on your own for your answers because I certainly can't get your stubborn mind to understand anything in a rational way.
I leave you with this proverb because at times I feel I'm talking to a child...lol From now on I'm just going to ignore you and I hope brother Rostos does the same thing just like how ignore all of sister systems posts.
My child, pay attention to what I say. Listen carefully to my words. Don't lose sight of them. Let them penetrate deep into your heart, for they bring life to those who find them, and healing to their whole body. ---Proverbs 4:20-22
Praise the Lord Almighty!!
What I have come to realize about you is that no matter how we answer you, you are just not satisfied with any responses. That leads me to believe you are a very stubborn, irrational person who is totally incapable of having any kind of discussion with.
You brother van need help in understanding and comprehending what you read.
I suggest you read the Holy Bible on your own for your answers because I certainly can't get your stubborn mind to understand anything in a rational way.
I leave you with this proverb because at times I feel I'm talking to a child...lol From now on I'm just going to ignore you and I hope brother Rostos does the same thing just like how ignore all of sister systems posts.
My child, pay attention to what I say. Listen carefully to my words. Don't lose sight of them. Let them penetrate deep into your heart, for they bring life to those who find them, and healing to their whole body. ---Proverbs 4:20-22
Praise the Lord Almighty!!
System, many atheists state that Jesus never lived, He is mentioned by many contemporary, non-Christian historians.
Flavius Josephus, a first century Jewish historian wrote of Jesus Sand the Christians: "so he [Ananus, son of Ananus the high priest] assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before him the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others (or some of his companions) and when he had formed an accusation against them, he delivered them to be stoned."
Other Jewish rabbinical writings, including Rabbi Eliezer and writers of the Talmud, talk about Jesus and his miracles. Surprisingly to many atheists, they never denied that miracles took place, but attempted to explain them as a result of evil.
Cornelius Tacitus wrote about Jesus and the first century Christians in his Annals (a history of the Roman empire):
"Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus."
Thallus, a Samaritan historian, wrote ca. 52 A.D. attempting to give a natural explanation for the earthquake and darkness which occurred at the crucifixion of Jesus. Mara Bar-Seraphon wrote a letter to his son in 73 A.D. which tells of the deaths of Socrates, Pythagoras, and of Jesus, "What advantage did the person gain from executing their wise king?...Nor did the wise king die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given." Jesus is also mentioned by Phlegon, a first-century historian, Lucian of Samosata (in The Passing Peregrinus), and Plinius Secundus, (Pliny the Younger).
Scholars have made statements such as, "no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non-historicity of Jesus ." The Encyclopedia Britannica says in its discussion of the multiple extra-biblical witnesses:
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
Even the atheist H. G. Wells spoke of Jesus, "...one is obliged to say, "Here was a man. This part of the tale could not have been invented."
System, many atheists state that Jesus never lived, He is mentioned by many contemporary, non-Christian historians.
Flavius Josephus, a first century Jewish historian wrote of Jesus Sand the Christians: "so he [Ananus, son of Ananus the high priest] assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before him the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others (or some of his companions) and when he had formed an accusation against them, he delivered them to be stoned."
Other Jewish rabbinical writings, including Rabbi Eliezer and writers of the Talmud, talk about Jesus and his miracles. Surprisingly to many atheists, they never denied that miracles took place, but attempted to explain them as a result of evil.
Cornelius Tacitus wrote about Jesus and the first century Christians in his Annals (a history of the Roman empire):
"Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus."
Thallus, a Samaritan historian, wrote ca. 52 A.D. attempting to give a natural explanation for the earthquake and darkness which occurred at the crucifixion of Jesus. Mara Bar-Seraphon wrote a letter to his son in 73 A.D. which tells of the deaths of Socrates, Pythagoras, and of Jesus, "What advantage did the person gain from executing their wise king?...Nor did the wise king die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given." Jesus is also mentioned by Phlegon, a first-century historian, Lucian of Samosata (in The Passing Peregrinus), and Plinius Secundus, (Pliny the Younger).
Scholars have made statements such as, "no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non-historicity of Jesus ." The Encyclopedia Britannica says in its discussion of the multiple extra-biblical witnesses:
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
Even the atheist H. G. Wells spoke of Jesus, "...one is obliged to say, "Here was a man. This part of the tale could not have been invented."
Smartapple123, I have only heard Christian cults claim that Jesus never said He was God. However, the biblical evidence shows that this concept is false.
It is true that Jesus never said, "I am God" directly. However, most of His teachings were done through parables, and not by direct statements. His disciples asked Him why He taught this way. His answer was:And He answered and said to them, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven. but to them it has not been granted. For whoever has, to him shall more be given, and he shall have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him. Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand." Matthew 13:11-13.
Those who make the claim that Jesus never claimed to be God are blind and deaf to God's word, by their own choices.
Although the title "Son of Man" may seem fairly innocuous, it is, in fact, a title of the Messiah, of whom the book of Daniel claims that all people will serve and that His kingdom would never end:
"I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him. "And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed. Daniel 7:13-14.
Obviously, if the Son of Man were only human, He would not be able to establish an eternal kingdom. Likewise, He would not be able to convince all peoples to serve Him. Such abilities and honors are reserved for God alone.
The Bible says that Jesus is the Christ, or Messiah - the anointed One of God. Jesus Himself made the claim or acknowledged that He was the Messiah. The title is especially significant with regard to the question at hand - is Jesus God? The Old Testament tells us that the Messiah is God and the eternal Father:
For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6.
Other prophecies of the OT tell us that the Messiah would be God:
"The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness. Jeremiah 23:5-6.
The title, "The LORD Our Righteousness" indicates that the Messiah is God. The Hebrew word translated "LORD" is yhvh (Yahweh), which is the personal name of God.
Also note the exchange between Jesus and Thomas after Jesus rose from the dead. Thomas, the ever-skeptical disciple, was unconvinced that Jesus had risen from the dead and wanted to see direct proof. However, when the Lord Jesus appeared to him, his only reaction was "My Lord and my God!"
Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." John 20:28-29
What was Jesus' reaction to the title of God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was Lord and God. If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!
System, you stated; "If someone was performing these so called miracles, you would think there would be other books about it"
.....So, I presented one of the several accounts of contemporary, non-christian historians that recorded the miracles of Jesus and in addition, other documentation outside the Gospel in case you were interested.
As for your "childhood" question, if you are not a misologist, you will find your answers upon reading the Gospel according to Matthew.
System, many atheists state that Jesus never lived, He is mentioned by many contemporary, non-Christian historians.
Flavius Josephus, a first century Jewish historian wrote of Jesus Sand the Christians: "so he [Ananus, son of Ananus the high priest] assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before him the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others (or some of his companions) and when he had formed an accusation against them, he delivered them to be stoned."
Other Jewish rabbinical writings, including Rabbi Eliezer and writers of the Talmud, talk about Jesus and his miracles. Surprisingly to many atheists, they never denied that miracles took place, but attempted to explain them as a result of evil.
Cornelius Tacitus wrote about Jesus and the first century Christians in his Annals (a history of the Roman empire):
"Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus."
Thallus, a Samaritan historian, wrote ca. 52 A.D. attempting to give a natural explanation for the earthquake and darkness which occurred at the crucifixion of Jesus. Mara Bar-Seraphon wrote a letter to his son in 73 A.D. which tells of the deaths of Socrates, Pythagoras, and of Jesus, "What advantage did the person gain from executing their wise king?...Nor did the wise king die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given." Jesus is also mentioned by Phlegon, a first-century historian, Lucian of Samosata (in The Passing Peregrinus), and Plinius Secundus, (Pliny the Younger).
Scholars have made statements such as, "no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non-historicity of Jesus ." The Encyclopedia Britannica says in its discussion of the multiple extra-biblical witnesses:
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
Even the atheist H. G. Wells spoke of Jesus, "...one is obliged to say, "Here was a man. This part of the tale could not have been invented."
Great. Flavius Josephus was born in 37AD.
In fact everyone you list was not a contemporary of Jesus.
The point of the question was if someone so spectacular actually lived and performed miracles, why isnt there a recording of it anywhere outside of the bible?
System, you stated; "If someone was performing these so called miracles, you would think there would be other books about it"
.....So, I presented one of the several accounts of contemporary, non-christian historians that recorded the miracles of Jesus and in addition, other documentation outside the Gospel in case you were interested.
As for your "childhood" question, if you are not a misologist, you will find your answers upon reading the Gospel according to Matthew.
Not contemporary. In fact, none are contemporary.
Dont you find it strange that every reference you make, and every reference there is - was written well after the death of Jesus? Every person you list was born AFTER JESUS WAS DEAD.
Come on. Quit with the bullshit.
I leave you with this proverb because at times I feel I'm talking to a child...lol From now on I'm just going to ignore you and I hope brother Rostos does the same thing just like how ignore all of sister systems posts.
You have been ignoring me all thread because the questions I ask are unanswerable, and they make you uncomfortable.
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