Post your tough questions in here regarding Christianity

Rostos -

Really.  You are bringing this down from a 5th grade debate to a 3rd grade debate.

You eat at the restaurant because you have calculated the risk of being poisoned at extremely low.  Out of all of your experience eating out, and all of your knowledge of others eating out - you have a very small chance of being poisoned.

Simply put - your desire to eat out outweighs the risk of being poisoned.

It is a mathematicl equation - and has nothing to do with faith. 

Can you get poisoned?  YEs.   Have people ever been poisoned?  I am sure it has happened.  Do the very small odds of it happening to you keep you from eating out?  No.

THERE IS NO FAITH IN ANY OF THAT.  There is mathematic probability calculation going on in your brains computer that tells you to eat out.

Since I know my previous response wont sit well with you - let me take a different approach....

You talk about faith when you eat out, fly, etc.  If christians had less of a statistical chance of having bad things happen to them than everyone else maybe that would be evidence of your god / faith being substantiated.

But unfortunately, christians get sick, poisoned, and die at the same rate as everyone else.  Did you hear about the missionary kids who drowned in Costa Rica last week?  Go read about it.  Everyone said that they had never met a more driven, godly person - but unfortunately they didnt have a good grasp of probability assignment and went swimming in a rip tide with FAITH.  They all died.  Go read it, and try to explain it to me.

Christians have the same rate of death, human suffering, illness, poverty, happiness levels - as everyone else in the general population.  There is no statistical difference between people of "faith" and everyone else.  Why is that?

I agree with you in that our friend rostos associated faith and probability.

But I am curious to hear his response to the notion that christians have the same set of faith / probability outcomes assigned to them as everyone else.  In other words, if you loaded a 6 shooter gun with 3 bullets, and spun - a devout christian would still be imposed with a 50% chance of being shot as a non-christian.

So if faith / probability all apply the same to all humans, what is the point of faith?  I prefer probability - because at least I can make intelligent calculations of risk - while the faith guy blindly walks in to the bullet.

I agree with you in that our friend rostos associated faith and probability.

But I am curious to hear his response to the notion that christians have the same set of faith / probability outcomes assigned to them as everyone else.  In other words, if you loaded a 6 shooter gun with 3 bullets, and spun - a devout christian would still be imposed with a 50% chance of being shot as a non-christian.

So if faith / probability all apply the same to all humans, what is the point of faith?  I prefer probability - because at least I can make intelligent calculations of risk - while the faith guy blindly walks in to the bullet.

Ahhhh, NOW we are getting somewhere....Finally a door has been opened....Lets now enter it...

yes, before you do something you look around you and look at the evidence........

If you are about to board a plane and you notice one of the mechanics is someone you once saw as a most wanted from Al Quada........Are u gonna enter the plane?

Most likely not.....Yes, you look around you and based on the evidence, you decide what to put your faith in.......

That is why the theist and the Atheist CANNOT provide 100% proof (certainty) that God exists or he doesnt.........Therefore both parties have faith........Thats all what my conclusion is

Rostos -

If by "getting somewhere" you mean "stating the obvious", then I guess we are getting somewhere. 

Nobody in this thread has stated that god can be proven 100% either way.  That was never a discussion, and never to be proven.  Check mark for you if you just realized this or think you have proven it.

If you are saying (which I totally disagree with) that the term faith is the same as the temr probability, then yes, we all use "faith" in determinging assigned risk to everything we do.  Another check mark for you.

Now, try to answer my post in #277.  Why did those missoionaries die - and why doesnt christian faith translate in to statistical diefferences between christians and non-christisn?

(BTW - to state and debate that the terms "faith" and "probability" are synonymous should be non-starter to anything posted further.  IT shows such a gross misunderstanding of the terms, and how they are applied - that anything posted afterwards should be discounted.  But I willl play along.)

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Praise the Lord Almighty!!

The guy that started the thread and though had all the answers has not answered one in a week...

Better than talking nonsense

Speak for yourself, dude.

Rostos we started this on post #47.. and I gotta tell you Im the stupid one..

300 posts laterwe are at the same place but now I think you got some kind of problem with understanding or logic..

Im the stupid one for trying to answer to somebody that wont answer me and trying to have an argument with somebody that just believes his own ideas...

Im done, Im christian, You are right as SirJD, Im wrong, God its the only important thing in this life and the bible has absolute truth .. you can explain the universe with it..

Praise the Lord !

My favorite verse as a christian is:

"The truth will set you free" John8:32

1. You have no rigth to call anyone a hypocrite (let he who is without sin, cast the first stone).

2. Christians are allowed to invest their money, by using sports, stocks, or any other legal and legit means.

3. His number one reason for being here may not be to spread God's word, but as a christian, he is to speak for God whenever the opportunity presents itself.

4. Sin is a part of life for the christian as well. To sin does not make us hypocrites. It means we are HUMAN. Forgiveness is what Gods grace is all about. I f there was more forgiveness in the world, this world might not see the greed, moral decay, and hatred it sees on a daily basis.

1. when somebody does hypocrisy then you can call him a hypocrite. thats the word given to it ! ( the first stone what ? Im not a christian, or agaisnt gambling and talking in a sports gambling forum.)

2. Gambling is not investing.. thats why it is called gamble !

3.The point of that was because a guy said maybe God wanted him here to spread the word ! so you took it out of context !

4.Sin is a part of christian life as well. but you have to really regret it and try not to fall in the same sin... that is why god forgives you..

that was the one I tried to put

Skin Colour? WTF?

After reading that tragic article about those 3 kids drowning in Costa Rica it appears that several reasons contributed to these tragic drownings. First there was a lack of life guards stationed at that beach, there were warnings signs at the entrance of the beach posting the danger of the currents. An emergency worker said, "Despite the lack of lifeguards, the accidents occurred from a bit of carelessness on the victims. You need a surfboard or boogie board. It's not for swimming."

Just because one is a Christian it doesn't mean you will be immune to suffering tragic deaths. Everyone will die someday, we don't know when or how but it will come.

A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. ---Proverbs 27:12

Praise the Lord Almighty!!

Wether you like it or not, no matter what names you call God or want to get away from him, you are gonna have to face him one day......

YOU DONT HAVE A CHOICE...Stop acting like you do.

Now for my question which will really get you thinking.......

One would it take for you to believe in God....From the time you wake up in the morning to the time you go to bed, what events would have to have transpired during the day for you to believe God exists?