Post your tough questions in here regarding Christianity

Council of Nicea in 325 AD  Jesus was proclaimed Holy and part of the Holy Trinity and not a man who had arisen to the divine.

The bible is a political tome rewritten by numerous victors. Word of God is the word of men who rewrote the bible to fit their philosophys.

God said to Abraham kill me a son

Abe said you must be putting me on

God said NO, Abe said But.

God said you can do what you want to But

the next time you see me coming you better run.

So Abe headed into the setting Sun

and set it all up on highway 61.

Dear oh dear....

If you only realised that you are agreeing with me.

The difference is, you are applying a mathematical term to the choices you are making, ie, the probaility (chance) of the plane crashing, car crashing etc etc

I am as well, however, i am using a philosophical  term (faith), to describe the exact same thing.

You are really something !

faith has to do with religion.. stop trying to find ways to use it on everyday situations.. so that you can say its the same but with a god..

The Free Dictionary

faith

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.

2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief, trust.

3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.

4. often Faith Christianity The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.

5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.

6. A set of principles or beliefs.

World English Dictionary

. 1.  strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence 

2.  a specific system of religious beliefs: the Jewish faith  

3.  Christianity  trust in God and in his actions and promises 

4.  a conviction of the truth of certain doctrines of religion, esp when this is not based on reason 

5.  complete confidence or trust in a person, remedy, etc 

6.  any set of firmly held principles or beliefs 

7.  allegiance or loyalty, as to a person or cause (esp in the phrases keep faith , break faith ) 

 Encyclopedia

faith

inner attitude, conviction, or trust relating man to a supreme God or ultimate salvation. In religious traditions stressing divine grace, it is the inner certainty or attitude of love granted by God himself. In Christian theology, faith is the divinely inspired human response to God's historical revelation through Jesus Christ and, consequently, is of crucial significance.

Where in all of those definitions do you find one that applies to pilots, drivers, mechanics, etc... ??

I put this in another reply so that you dont say I didnt asked anything..

"Faith is a fine invention" by Emily Dickinson

Read it and try to uderstand it..

Me something? Are you really stupid or are you just acting it?

"Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence"

As you board the plane...Can you guarantee 100% that the ground crew,  mechanics and flight engineers have all donte there jobs correctly? Do you go and observe each flight mechanic do there job properly? No you dont......therefore based on your definition, you have no material evidence they did there job properly......Therefore you are assuming they did there job correctly, if you didnt, would you hop on the plane? I dont think you would....

If you are assuming therefore you DONT have material evidence and therefore wether you like it or not, you have faith that the mechanics did there jobs properly...

Yes, you may look at the history of the airliner, etc etc etc, yes, just as i look at the signposts for Gods existence...

Neither of us have 100% material evidence in these cases, but based on the signposts, we both have faith.....I dont care what you say, YOU HAVE FAITH.

Just answer this question.......

When you go to a resteraunt for the first time....

Can you confirm 100% guarantee that the chef isnt going to poison you? Just answer yes or no........Can you guarantee it?

No you cant, so are yiou still gonna enter the resteraunt and eat? OR when you enter the resteraunt, are you gonna ask to watch the chef cook your food?

I cant believe you are posting a definition of faith and go on to contradict it...

The pilots, chefs, mechanics and even drivers.. go to a course, to a school, they need to study, to pass an exam..

Fligh school diploma, drivers license... that is logical proof AND material evidence !

Now whos the stupid one ?

Jeeeeeeeeeeesuuuuuuuuuuus you are like a child !

And the chef question is so stupid ! its like asking how do you know the pilot is not going to intentionally crash the plane ! or that another driver is not going to crash to you on purpose.. NONSENSE !

with that said.. that clearly does not apply to the pilots, mechanics, drivers, etc..

is there another definition you would like to try ??

Many Books, One Message

The Bible may look like one book, but it is actually sixty-six rolled into one. Thirty-nine books make up what we call the Old Testament, and twenty-seven make up the New Testament. God uses many authors-as many as forty-over a time-period of many centuries to write the sixty-six books of the Bible. This makes each book unique. But even though each book has its own style and character, each one contributes to God's life changing message. What is that message? Through the Bible, God makes it clear that he loves us and has a plan to save us from the destructive power of sin.

Praise the Lord Almighty!!

Fundamental christian #2 on the rescue.....

Still I want an answer Rostooooos... still waiting...

So why the f### do plane crashes occur? Why? According to you, because they are trained etc etc, there shouldnt be plane crashes....So why do they happen?

90% of the time is due to mechanical faults and pilot error (insufficient training).

NO ONE KNOWS when they are gonna happen, but when they do happen it is cause of human error.

When you enter a plane, that day might the day one of the mechanics made a f### up.......How do you know for a FACT that when u enter a plane the mechanics did everything properly???? HOW?? Just answer the question, how do you know for a fact? U DONT, U have faith and trust that they did the job properly, otherwise u wouldnt go on the plane....

I just want you to answer these questions.

Dont answer it with another question,

When you go to a resteraunt to eat, when you order your food, can you guarantee 100% proof that the chef wont poison you?

If not, then why do you still eat?

Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

Still waiting for a response...

Nothing to say about the quote I posted from your beloved bible

I guess only the ones you like count Must be nice to be able to pick and choose.  Who is the ignorant one

And so is Vanzack...

If your Mom and Dad command you to steal, what do you do?

As we have stated, God judges everyone RIGHTLY. If a childs parents teaches a boy to steal, then if that boy dies before he grows older, God will judge rightly......

If the boy grows to a mature person and KNOWS the difference between right and wrong, then i am sure God will judge rightly if he continues to steal.....God knows what is in our minds and hearts, that is why he is the only one that should judge.

Dont even try and go inside the mind of God...You honestly want to go inside the mind of a being that created the universe? The universe is not comprehendable and you want to try and understand the mind of God?

All you need to know is that God loves you and just follow the rules he states in the bible...Thats all it is...

God's Message

The Bible is the most powerful book ever written. Countless lives have been changed by it. Numerous authorities have tried to ban it. Some godless people have burned it. And many Christians have died to preserve it. Why had this book had such a huge impact on people? Because this book, the Bible, is the very word of God. It came from God himself--he is the author. Over hundreds of years, he chose certain individuals to write down exactly what he wanted to tell humankind. This process is called "inspiration." One of Jesus' closest followers, Peter, wrote, "Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet's own understanding, or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God" (2 Peter 1:20-21.

Although these authors wrote in Hebrew or Greek, their words have been carefully translated into many languages. So today we can read God's message in our own language---modern English.

Praise the Lord Almighty!!

You heard that system.. God loves you so much that he left some rules ! and you should follow because if you dont God will send you to an endless world of pain and suffering where you are going to be for the rest of eternity !

But always remember he loves you very much..

Thanks for calling the bible as it is.. rules... social control !

Again the Chef example is stupid !

How do you know a policeman with a gun is not going to shoot you ?

How do you know if the dentist while in a procedure is not going to put some cyanide in your mouth ?

How do you know if somebody at the air force during their training is not going to go all kamikaze and crash his plane during his flight ?

Because its faiiiiiiiith people..

Do you see the pattern in there ?           

Stupidity

There are a lot of things in these world that machines produce, where no human intervention is required..

So in that case I should have faith in the machine ? 

Rostos Im still waiting on your answer to what definition of faith do you apply on the case of drivers and pilots..

You changed subject ! just answer me....                      what definition of faith are you usiiiing ?????

By your very definition YOU POSTED,

"Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence"

When you go to a resteraunt to eat.......Can you give me 100% material evidence that the chef isnt going to poison you? yes or No? Just answer the question, i just want a yes or a no....When you are sitting at your table waiting after you ordered, can you give yourself 100% evidence that the chef in the kitchen doesnt put some rat poison in your soup? YES or NO?