Posted:
#3426
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
Oh my dear! Heavenly Father please forgive mik...for he knows not what he says!
Na, on the contrary, I think he knows EXACTLY what he says.
If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity
Posted:
#3428
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
Oh dear! Heavenly Father please forgive kk...for he knows not what he says!
Oh dear! Heavenly Father please do NOT forgive me (because you can't since things that don't exist can't DO anything)...for I know EXACTLY what I said.
Just in case you thought it may have been a temporary insane delusion, I will repeat it. I will NOT repent my "sins" on my death bed. I will give god one final "fuck you" and recede into unconsciousness, never to awake again lol
Posted:
#3429
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
Didn't you know? In christianity you can do whatever you want. All you have to do is claim god as your daddy and say youre sorry...
No, not true at all. Let me explain it for you once again.
Everyone should follow the Ten Commandments but the thing is everyone of us has broken at least a few of these commandments which is a 100% certainty. So wtih that said, every single one of us deserve to suffer eternal damnation in hell...I repeat every single one of us.
But because of the Lord's grace, He gives us salvation from our sins. In this way our sins are wiped clean off the slate and you become righteous again in His sight.
How you may ask does this forgiveness comes about?...through repentance, asking for forgiveness, and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior. Asking Jesus to come into your life to lead you into a righteous path. This is what they mean by "being born again".
This is how you begin the process of sinning no more. You can't keep on sinning and expect to be saved. You have to eventually stop your sinning ways and be saved.
It is very difficult to do this, that is why many will not be saved. Even Christians who go to church every sunday and worship the Lord, many of them will not be saved. (Matthew 7:21-23 explains this) also (Matthew 7:13-14 which is the Narrow Gate explains it as well)
Posted:
#3430
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
No, not true at all. Let me explain it for you once again.
Everyone should follow the Ten Commandments but the thing is everyone of us has broken at least a few of these commandments which is a 100% certainty. So wtih that said, every single one of us deserve to suffer eternal damnation in hell...I repeat every single one of us.
But because of the Lord's grace, He gives us salvation from our sins. In this way our sins are wiped clean off the slate and you become righteous again in His sight.
How you may ask does this forgiveness comes about?...through repentance, asking for forgiveness, and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior. Asking Jesus to come into your life to lead you into a righteous path. This is what they mean by "being born again".
This is how you begin the process of sinning no more. You can't keep on sinning and expect to be saved. You have to eventually stop your sinning ways and be saved.
It is very difficult to do this, that is why many will not be saved. Even Christians who go to church every sunday and worship the Lord, many of them will not be saved. (Matthew 7:21-23 explains this) also (Matthew 7:13-14 which is the Narrow Gate explains it as well)
bla bla bla...
Posted:
#3432
Quote Originally Posted by Sugarbear19:
Hey matt... I was going to continue our debate and attempting to debunk some of your claims, but I'm starting to suspect that you are not answering these questions yourself, but instead stealing from other people who have attempted to answer the same thing. I don't appreciate you plagiarizing from another in order to provide an unnecessarily dense response. Please understand that this is the only reason I will not continue to debate with you... You answers are well-structured but still logically implausible, and although I wanted to thank you for trying to valiantly to answer me, it seems all you've done is copy and paste and I don't appreciate that
Here is the website I believe you took your second answer almost word for word from
https://www.gotquestions.org/argument-existence-God.html
Hey matt... I was going to continue our debate and attempting to debunk some of your claims, but I'm starting to suspect that you are not answering these questions yourself, but instead stealing from other people who have attempted to answer the same thing. I don't appreciate you plagiarizing from another in order to provide an unnecessarily dense response. Please understand that this is the only reason I will not continue to debate with you... You answers are well-structured but still logically implausible, and although I wanted to thank you for trying to valiantly to answer me, it seems all you've done is copy and paste and I don't appreciate that
Here is the website I believe you took your second answer almost word for word from
https://www.gotquestions.org/argument-existence-God.html
So!...So what!...lol Does it really matter?...lol
All you're going to do is just refuse anything he says. And please don't act like you haven't been using some of your material from some atheist website...lol
Posted:
#3436
You can doubt the existence of God all you want but you obviously don't really believe that God doesn't exist because again I ask. Why would you spend countless hours on your smart phones or computer debating something that YOU say doesn't exist. That sounds crazy to me. Maybe I should be like Sugarbear and keep posting until one of you atheist answer the question. I mean really what's your real deal. Is it all just mental masturbation to you guys because there is no way you can be taken seriously at this point.
Posted:
#3437
Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:
You can doubt the existence of God all you want but you obviously don't really believe that God doesn't exist because again I ask. Why would you spend countless hours on your smart phones or computer debating something that YOU say doesn't exist. That sounds crazy to me. Maybe I should be like Sugarbear and keep posting until one of you atheist answer the question. I mean really what's your real deal. Is it all just mental masturbation to you guys because there is no way you can be taken seriously at this point.
You can doubt the existence of God all you want but you obviously don't really believe that God doesn't exist because again I ask. Why would you spend countless hours on your smart phones or computer debating something that YOU say doesn't exist. That sounds crazy to me. Maybe I should be like Sugarbear and keep posting until one of you atheist answer the question. I mean really what's your real deal. Is it all just mental masturbation to you guys because there is no way you can be taken seriously at this point.
if you go back and read carefully, you will find your answer. it has been addressed numerous times...
Posted:
#3438
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
So!...So what!...lol Does it really matter?...lol
All you're going to do is just refuse anything he says. And please don't act like you haven't been using some of your material from some atheist website...lol
if he has, it wouldn't be that hard to prove it...just like he did with matt
Posted:
#3439
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
No, not true at all. Let me explain it for you once again.
Everyone should follow the Ten Commandments but the thing is everyone of us has broken at least a few of these commandments which is a 100% certainty. So wtih that said, every single one of us deserve to suffer eternal damnation in hell...I repeat every single one of us.
But because of the Lord's grace, He gives us salvation from our sins. In this way our sins are wiped clean off the slate and you become righteous again in His sight.
How you may ask does this forgiveness comes about?...through repentance, asking for forgiveness, and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior. Asking Jesus to come into your life to lead you into a righteous path. This is what they mean by "being born again".
This is how you begin the process of sinning no more. You can't keep on sinning and expect to be saved. You have to eventually stop your sinning ways and be saved.
It is very difficult to do this, that is why many will not be saved. Even Christians who go to church every sunday and worship the Lord, many of them will not be saved. (Matthew 7:21-23 explains this) also (Matthew 7:13-14 which is the Narrow Gate explains it as well)
Lol all you did was expand what I said into a few paragraphs...
All you have to do is say you're sorry and say Jesus is your daddy lol
Posted:
#3440
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
So why don't NDEs happen to everyone? God only wants to talk to a few people. He's not very chatty I guess...
So why don't NDEs happen to everyone? God only wants to talk to a few people. He's not very chatty I guess...
Where do you come up with these questions of yours?...lol
You want him to answer you why don't 6.97 billion people have NDEs?...lol
I thought you and your buddy kk was all into logic and probability?...lol
He's not very chatty I guess....is your response?...lol
Posted:
#3441
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
Lol all you did was expand what I said into a few paragraphs...
All you have to do is say you're sorry and say Jesus is your daddy lol
You were saying in your post we Christians can keep on sinning and keep asking for forgiveness but I just told you no that is not true at all...that is not how forgiveness works. Do you have trouble comprehending what you read?...lol
The bottom line is that you can't continue to keep on sinning and think you are going to be saved everytime you ask for forgiveness....was that too hard for you to understand?...lol
Posted:
#3442
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikniks:
Aren't followers of christ supposed to give away all their stuff and only use what is necessary?
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No...silly!...lol
There are only Ten Commandments mik...not eleven...lol
Posted:
#3444
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
I've actually asked this before. Why does god hate amputees? Theists give some BS answer saying they will be rewarded in heaven lol
God loves everyone that He gave His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to shed His blood on the cross to save all mankind from their sins and whoever believes in Him shall have eternal life.
Does this answer help you to understand God hates no one?
Posted:
#3445
Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:
This is fucking ridiculous, why don't you guys just start your own forum for this shit. 138 pages of bitching at each other about who is right regarding a topic where NOBODY knows who is right... Get over this fucking thread.
This is fucking ridiculous, why don't you guys just start your own forum for this shit. 138 pages of bitching at each other about who is right regarding a topic where NOBODY knows who is right... Get over this fucking thread.
Oh...go read a Bible will ya?
Posted:
#3446
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
God loves everyone that He gave His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to shed His blood on the cross to save all mankind from their sins and whoever believes in Him shall have eternal life.
Does this answer help you to understand God hates no one?
It doesn't explain why god hates amputees.
Posted:
#3447
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
I was raised christian. I think I stopped believing near the end of grammar school. I have 2 brothers and a sister, none of which believe anymore.
Poor mom and dad...they must have been so heart-brokened and disappointed when their 4 children abandoned and started rejecting the Lord.
I can only speculate but maybe yall started hanging with the wrong crowd or something....shame!...shame!
Posted:
#3448
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
Poor mom and dad...they must have been so heart-brokened and disappointed when their 4 children abandoned and started rejecting the Lord.
I can only speculate but maybe yall started hanging with the wrong crowd or something....shame!...shame!
And I can speculate that you are a moron. My parents aren't heartbroken at all. They let us think for ourselves. You have some nerve telling me that we must have been around the wrong crowd. You're implying the "right" crowd contains religious people.
I'm sure you had religious freaks for parents, and I'm sure they're really proud of the closed minded moron they raised...
Posted:
#3450
Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:
You can doubt the existence of God all you want but you obviously don't really believe that God doesn't exist because again I ask. Why would you spend countless hours on your smart phones or computer debating something that YOU say doesn't exist. That sounds crazy to me. Maybe I should be like Sugarbear and keep posting until one of you atheist answer the question. I mean really what's your real deal. Is it all just mental masturbation to you guys because there is no way you can be taken seriously at this point.
You can doubt the existence of God all you want but you obviously don't really believe that God doesn't exist because again I ask. Why would you spend countless hours on your smart phones or computer debating something that YOU say doesn't exist. That sounds crazy to me. Maybe I should be like Sugarbear and keep posting until one of you atheist answer the question. I mean really what's your real deal. Is it all just mental masturbation to you guys because there is no way you can be taken seriously at this point.
Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be a logical fallacy.
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