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    If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

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    Crashdavis565
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2011 - 9:46 PM ET #1

    what is the big deal?

    I mean he is the son of God, why does it matter that he gave his human life on the cross. What is a human life worth in the Kingdom of God?

    Is this really that big of a sacrifice? Think about it. If he dies at 27 or at 77 what is the difference? If he dies in his sleep or on the cross, what is the big deal? He is the son of God for crying out loud, what would the worldly issues matter for his life when he will spend the next 10,000 years at the right hand of God?

     

    Puzzling.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    what is the big deal?

    I mean he is the son of God, why does it matter that he gave his human life on the cross. What is a human life worth in the Kingdom of God?

    Is this really that big of a sacrifice? Think about it. If he dies at 27 or at 77 what is the difference? If he dies in his sleep or on the cross, what is the big deal? He is the son of God for crying out loud, what would the worldly issues matter for his life when he will spend the next 10,000 years at the right hand of God?

     

    Puzzling.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 11:03 AM ET #2

    How bout Joseph's bad luck.....he stuck to anal and still got the bitch pregnant. That's the real mind boggler
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    How bout Joseph's bad luck.....he stuck to anal and still got the bitch pregnant. That's the real mind boggler
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 11:07 AM ET #3

    i won my bets this weekend.
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    i won my bets this weekend.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 11:08 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    i won my bets this weekend.


    I lost my biggest bet of the year on serena williams Nice to see someone had a good weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    i won my bets this weekend.


    I lost my biggest bet of the year on serena williams Nice to see someone had a good weekend
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 11:42 AM ET #5

    reason this sacrifice is significant is because he lived on this earth without sin

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    reason this sacrifice is significant is because he lived on this earth without sin

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 12:09 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by gimmemines:

    reason this sacrifice is significant is because he lived on this earth without sin



    So it's a big loss because he coulda lived another 50 or 60 perfect years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmemines:

    reason this sacrifice is significant is because he lived on this earth without sin



    So it's a big loss because he coulda lived another 50 or 60 perfect years?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:



    I lost my biggest bet of the year on serena williams Nice to see someone had a good weekend

    i didnt know covers had a serena williams emoticon  

    side note tennis: i would like to see 3 gang members beat the snot out of andy roddick on youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:



    I lost my biggest bet of the year on serena williams Nice to see someone had a good weekend

    i didnt know covers had a serena williams emoticon  

    side note tennis: i would like to see 3 gang members beat the snot out of andy roddick on youtube

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 3:36 PM ET #8

    do you have a son? a daughter?

    if you know that your son know people who are drug addicts (sinners)

    and he dies for them for some sort of reason. maybe saving them from a fire or whatever

    wont it be a big deal to you ?
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    do you have a son? a daughter?

    if you know that your son know people who are drug addicts (sinners)

    and he dies for them for some sort of reason. maybe saving them from a fire or whatever

    wont it be a big deal to you ?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 3:43 PM ET #9

    jesus
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    jesus
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 3:46 PM ET #10


    Awesome thread.


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    Awesome thread.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 4:19 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:



    I lost my biggest bet of the year on serena williams Nice to see someone had a good weekend

    you made your biggest bet of the year on serena williams?

    say it aint so mess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:



    I lost my biggest bet of the year on serena williams Nice to see someone had a good weekend

    you made your biggest bet of the year on serena williams?

    say it aint so mess

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 4:53 PM ET #12

    He didn't have to die brother.  He went through that horrible experience even though he could have called on God to destroy the whole world. 
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    He didn't have to die brother.  He went through that horrible experience even though he could have called on God to destroy the whole world. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 5:37 PM ET #13

    Santa didn't leave me a present, the tooth fairy didn't leave me a quarter, the coyote will never catch the roadrunner.  But I was lucky to pick Arkansas to win this weekend.
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    Santa didn't leave me a present, the tooth fairy didn't leave me a quarter, the coyote will never catch the roadrunner.  But I was lucky to pick Arkansas to win this weekend.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 7:56 PM ET #14

    religion is social construct..as far as jesus goes...LINK
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    religion is social construct..as far as jesus goes...LINK
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2011 - 8:49 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    So it's a big loss because he coulda lived another 50 or 60 perfect years?



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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    So it's a big loss because he coulda lived another 50 or 60 perfect years?



     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 1:50 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

    He didn't have to die brother.  He went through that horrible experience even though he could have called on God to destroy the whole world. 

    This is kind of my point. I am not much of a guy. I drink a little too much and gamble too much but as I was thinking about the dying on the cross thing it came to me that I would take one for the team too. I mean, do not get me wrong,  I really appreciate what he did and all but would not anyone do that?
    We have kids go "over the hill" in war into a hail of bullets and take one for the team. The Japanese have kamikazes.  These people are sacrificing themselves for others. Jesus made a good call and all by dying on the cross to take care of all the sins of man but I think most people when faced with this decision would have done the same?
    Not all that big of a deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

    He didn't have to die brother.  He went through that horrible experience even though he could have called on God to destroy the whole world. 

    This is kind of my point. I am not much of a guy. I drink a little too much and gamble too much but as I was thinking about the dying on the cross thing it came to me that I would take one for the team too. I mean, do not get me wrong,  I really appreciate what he did and all but would not anyone do that?
    We have kids go "over the hill" in war into a hail of bullets and take one for the team. The Japanese have kamikazes.  These people are sacrificing themselves for others. Jesus made a good call and all by dying on the cross to take care of all the sins of man but I think most people when faced with this decision would have done the same?
    Not all that big of a deal?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #17

    https://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-christ-like-figures-who-pre-date-jesus/
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    https://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-christ-like-figures-who-pre-date-jesus/
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

    He didn't have to die brother.  He went through that horrible experience even though he could have called on God to destroy the whole world. 

     

    Few guys go up a mountain and write a book and you guys believe every word of it.  If 5 guys went up a mountain today with no proof of anything and wrote a book of invisable men, would you believe it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

    He didn't have to die brother.  He went through that horrible experience even though he could have called on God to destroy the whole world. 

     

    Few guys go up a mountain and write a book and you guys believe every word of it.  If 5 guys went up a mountain today with no proof of anything and wrote a book of invisable men, would you believe it?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 12:37 AM ET #19

    let's get one thing clear for those confused...



    Jesus was human....so therefore he cannot be God or the son of God.

    He is a messenger of God




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    let's get one thing clear for those confused...



    Jesus was human....so therefore he cannot be God or the son of God.

    He is a messenger of God




     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 4:16 AM ET #20

    [Quote: Originally Posted by 165yds]  

    Few guys go up a mountain and write a book and you guys believe every word of it.  If 5 guys went up a mountain today with no proof of anything and wrote a book of invisable men, would you believe it?

    [/Quote

    How did the writer of Genesis some 2000 years ago know that the universe had a beginning? Something that scientists with all the technology they have are only now able to confirm.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by 165yds]  

    Few guys go up a mountain and write a book and you guys believe every word of it.  If 5 guys went up a mountain today with no proof of anything and wrote a book of invisable men, would you believe it?

    [/Quote

    How did the writer of Genesis some 2000 years ago know that the universe had a beginning? Something that scientists with all the technology they have are only now able to confirm.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 4:18 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by PASA818:

    Santa didn't leave me a present, the tooth fairy didn't leave me a quarter, the coyote will never catch the roadrunner.  But I was lucky to pick Arkansas to win this weekend.

    Comparing God to Santa and the tooth fairy....

    Stop appealing to the fallacy of equivocation....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PASA818:

    Santa didn't leave me a present, the tooth fairy didn't leave me a quarter, the coyote will never catch the roadrunner.  But I was lucky to pick Arkansas to win this weekend.

    Comparing God to Santa and the tooth fairy....

    Stop appealing to the fallacy of equivocation....

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 4:30 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    what is the big deal?

    I mean he is the son of God, why does it matter that he gave his human life on the cross. What is a human life worth in the Kingdom of God?

    Is this really that big of a sacrifice? Think about it. If he dies at 27 or at 77 what is the difference? If he dies in his sleep or on the cross, what is the big deal? He is the son of God for crying out loud, what would the worldly issues matter for his life when he will spend the next 10,000 years at the right hand of God?

     

    Puzzling.

    'For the Son of Man himself did not come to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many'.

    Words attributed to Jesus in Mark 10:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    what is the big deal?

    I mean he is the son of God, why does it matter that he gave his human life on the cross. What is a human life worth in the Kingdom of God?

    Is this really that big of a sacrifice? Think about it. If he dies at 27 or at 77 what is the difference? If he dies in his sleep or on the cross, what is the big deal? He is the son of God for crying out loud, what would the worldly issues matter for his life when he will spend the next 10,000 years at the right hand of God?

     

    Puzzling.

    'For the Son of Man himself did not come to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many'.

    Words attributed to Jesus in Mark 10:45

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 4:42 AM ET #23

    No disrespect intended but he died on cross right?  Why would you pray to that cross?  If some new messenger of god start a new religion and somehow become huge , persecuted , ended up in electric chair and dies. His follower pray to electric chair?  It's just weird thing to pray for. 
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    No disrespect intended but he died on cross right?  Why would you pray to that cross?  If some new messenger of god start a new religion and somehow become huge , persecuted , ended up in electric chair and dies. His follower pray to electric chair?  It's just weird thing to pray for. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 5:04 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Chimpo:

    No disrespect intended but he died on cross right?  Why would you pray to that cross?  If some new messenger of god start a new religion and somehow become huge , persecuted , ended up in electric chair and dies. His follower pray to electric chair?  It's just weird thing to pray for. 

    I know what you are saying, it is not so much about the cross itself, it is more about respecting the symbolism..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimpo:

    No disrespect intended but he died on cross right?  Why would you pray to that cross?  If some new messenger of god start a new religion and somehow become huge , persecuted , ended up in electric chair and dies. His follower pray to electric chair?  It's just weird thing to pray for. 

    I know what you are saying, it is not so much about the cross itself, it is more about respecting the symbolism..

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 5:17 AM ET #25

    Respecting the symbolism i can understand that. But to make a cross as the symbol....   tool of execution as a symbol.  Hard to understand for me as a non christian/catholic.  That's all.
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    Respecting the symbolism i can understand that. But to make a cross as the symbol....   tool of execution as a symbol.  Hard to understand for me as a non christian/catholic.  That's all.
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