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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 2:10 PM ET #876

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:



    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...
    Don't forget that your Trend plays your posting are not a System. Also you should send an email to StatFox and let them know that you are posting plays from their available power trends and classifying them as a System....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:



    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...
    Don't forget that your Trend plays your posting are not a System. Also you should send an email to StatFox and let them know that you are posting plays from their available power trends and classifying them as a System....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 2:11 PM ET #877

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

    RyS...where are you getting your public numbers, covers has all three plays by the system as non public faves (below 50%)...

    https://www.sportsinsights.com/affiliatewiz/aw.aspx?A=7
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

    RyS...where are you getting your public numbers, covers has all three plays by the system as non public faves (below 50%)...

    https://www.sportsinsights.com/affiliatewiz/aw.aspx?A=7
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 2:14 PM ET #878

    odds...they are not from StatFox... 
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    odds...they are not from StatFox... 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 2:44 PM ET #879

    Its was to late last night,
    Miami Ohio at Bowling Green,getting 7.5 isnt a play?
    I put Ball St who they dont play.
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    Its was to late last night,
    Miami Ohio at Bowling Green,getting 7.5 isnt a play?
    I put Ball St who they dont play.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 2:59 PM ET #880

    Quote Originally Posted by RyS:

    One thing Im gonna keep an eye on...

    One of the "angles" the system is based according to KP is playing against public perception, Thats why there was value on bad teams on the road getting > +6 pts vs not good teams at home..

    well I didnt check it before yesterday, but maybe this system got too "public", let me explain..

    Yesterdays system Idaho St. was a public favorite (wish contradicts the system) and lost, but N. Colorado was not favored by public (and won ats almost SU)

    I know that to base premises based in one day sample is not valid, but I'm gonna keep eye on it from now on and keep record of it(not here).

    Eg Today all 3 system plays are public favorite, also almost play (wrong conference) Army is public favorite while the other "almost" plays (Fordham, VA Milit, High Point) are not favored. 

    lets see how these develop..

    GL
    Rysuno



    I also noticed the same thing and hate playing public dogs. In fact I almost will never play a public dog (ie; took Georgetown and Kansas on Monday because of this and then last night took St. Louis and laid off Weber and TCU because of this) Of course it has been the right move the last couple nights and that does not always ring true. I use pregame and vegasinsider, along with another site or two if their is a discrepancy. The more "known" or "popular" a team is, the more I stick to this rule of thumb.  Again, pointing to the play against ND on Monday as a great example.

    Last night I played Idaho St for .5 units and No. Colorado for 1 unit based on this premise alone. Should have went with my gut and laid off Idaho St. altogether but I am trying to stick to the system and play every game.

    Interesting topic and I actually thought about bringing it up today myself. Using pregame you can go back and look at past dates so researching this on all past system plays is possible if you trust the information you are being given.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RyS:

    One thing Im gonna keep an eye on...

    One of the "angles" the system is based according to KP is playing against public perception, Thats why there was value on bad teams on the road getting > +6 pts vs not good teams at home..

    well I didnt check it before yesterday, but maybe this system got too "public", let me explain..

    Yesterdays system Idaho St. was a public favorite (wish contradicts the system) and lost, but N. Colorado was not favored by public (and won ats almost SU)

    I know that to base premises based in one day sample is not valid, but I'm gonna keep eye on it from now on and keep record of it(not here).

    Eg Today all 3 system plays are public favorite, also almost play (wrong conference) Army is public favorite while the other "almost" plays (Fordham, VA Milit, High Point) are not favored. 

    lets see how these develop..

    GL
    Rysuno



    I also noticed the same thing and hate playing public dogs. In fact I almost will never play a public dog (ie; took Georgetown and Kansas on Monday because of this and then last night took St. Louis and laid off Weber and TCU because of this) Of course it has been the right move the last couple nights and that does not always ring true. I use pregame and vegasinsider, along with another site or two if their is a discrepancy. The more "known" or "popular" a team is, the more I stick to this rule of thumb.  Again, pointing to the play against ND on Monday as a great example.

    Last night I played Idaho St for .5 units and No. Colorado for 1 unit based on this premise alone. Should have went with my gut and laid off Idaho St. altogether but I am trying to stick to the system and play every game.

    Interesting topic and I actually thought about bringing it up today myself. Using pregame you can go back and look at past dates so researching this on all past system plays is possible if you trust the information you are being given.



     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 3:16 PM ET #881

    Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:

    I played Miami O+7.5,what # is Ball St?
    god your lazy, and put a shirt on..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:

    I played Miami O+7.5,what # is Ball St?
    god your lazy, and put a shirt on..
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 3:22 PM ET #882

    Quote Originally Posted by p-lane1:

    god your lazy, and put a shirt on..


    if you have paid for ken-pom all you had to do was give the #,if not I didnt need an answer from you,but thanks for the help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p-lane1:

    god your lazy, and put a shirt on..


    if you have paid for ken-pom all you had to do was give the #,if not I didnt need an answer from you,but thanks for the help.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #883

    Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:



    if you have paid for ken-pom all you had to do was give the #,if not I didnt need an answer from you,but thanks for the help.

    Clearly you've never even tried to look up the # yourself. Try starting here: www.google.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:



    if you have paid for ken-pom all you had to do was give the #,if not I didnt need an answer from you,but thanks for the help.

    Clearly you've never even tried to look up the # yourself. Try starting here: www.google.com
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 4:19 PM ET #884

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:



    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...

    Nobody here is interested in all your nipicking.  You're really a sicko to keep harping on the same topic over and over!  You must NOT be taking your medication lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:



    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...

    Nobody here is interested in all your nipicking.  You're really a sicko to keep harping on the same topic over and over!  You must NOT be taking your medication lately.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 4:35 PM ET #885

    bigbozo...that is actually the first time I said anything about the Weber State wager...

    Just a reminder to Kine...I figured he just forgot last night about the extra (1/2) unit on weber...  
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    bigbozo...that is actually the first time I said anything about the Weber State wager...

    Just a reminder to Kine...I figured he just forgot last night about the extra (1/2) unit on weber...  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 4:41 PM ET #886

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:



    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...

    Can you just give it a fucking rest?? Why do you insist on being such a complete asshole?? No wonder you have so little respect here. You have you own thread. Stay in it!

    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:



    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...

    Can you just give it a fucking rest?? Why do you insist on being such a complete asshole?? No wonder you have so little respect here. You have you own thread. Stay in it!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 5:36 PM ET #887

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

    bigbozo...that is actually the first time I said anything about the Weber State wager...

    Just a reminder to Kine...I figured he just forgot last night about the extra (1/2) unit on weber...  


    Why would you think he forgot how much he bet and why do you even care,you have your own thread why not just take care of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

    bigbozo...that is actually the first time I said anything about the Weber State wager...

    Just a reminder to Kine...I figured he just forgot last night about the extra (1/2) unit on weber...  


    Why would you think he forgot how much he bet and why do you even care,you have your own thread why not just take care of that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

    bigbozo...that is actually the first time I said anything about the Weber State wager...

    Just a reminder to Kine...I figured he just forgot last night about the extra (1/2) unit on weber...  


    You are on the 1/2 unit Police....Get a Fucking Life....Better yet Just Get Lost...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

    bigbozo...that is actually the first time I said anything about the Weber State wager...

    Just a reminder to Kine...I figured he just forgot last night about the extra (1/2) unit on weber...  


    You are on the 1/2 unit Police....Get a Fucking Life....Better yet Just Get Lost...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 6:39 PM ET #889

    with KPs recent "tweaking" of the system, the kenpom cutoff was moved from 180 to 165. CS Fullerton (Northridge's opponent) is now at 166. So prior to the change, this wouldn't be a play. Now I know that it's not true to form to play this system religiously (like I do) and handicap but the games, but I just wanted to bring up this talking point... One of the main points for this system is that you are playing against a bad home team that has perhaps lost it's motivation at the end of the year. But am I confident that Fullerton is a "bad home team" that has thrown in the towel on the season? I'm by no means a brilliant handicapping mind, but a quick look at the Big West standings shows Fullerton tied for second with a conference record of 10-4 and an overall record of 19-8. I just wanted to bring this up as a talker for this group, as we work toward a common goal. If the common response is "shut up serpent and play it like a normal system play", then that's exactly what I'll be doing. KP and all the regulars, good luck!
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    with KPs recent "tweaking" of the system, the kenpom cutoff was moved from 180 to 165. CS Fullerton (Northridge's opponent) is now at 166. So prior to the change, this wouldn't be a play. Now I know that it's not true to form to play this system religiously (like I do) and handicap but the games, but I just wanted to bring up this talking point... One of the main points for this system is that you are playing against a bad home team that has perhaps lost it's motivation at the end of the year. But am I confident that Fullerton is a "bad home team" that has thrown in the towel on the season? I'm by no means a brilliant handicapping mind, but a quick look at the Big West standings shows Fullerton tied for second with a conference record of 10-4 and an overall record of 19-8. I just wanted to bring this up as a talker for this group, as we work toward a common goal. If the common response is "shut up serpent and play it like a normal system play", then that's exactly what I'll be doing. KP and all the regulars, good luck!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 6:39 PM ET #890

    with KPs recent "tweaking" of the system, the kenpom cutoff was moved from 180 to 165. CS Fullerton (Northridge's opponent) is now at 166. So prior to the change, this wouldn't be a play. Now I know that it's not true to form to play this system religiously (like I do) and handicap but the games, but I just wanted to bring up this talking point... One of the main points for this system is that you are playing against a bad home team that has perhaps lost it's motivation at the end of the year. But am I confident that Fullerton is a "bad home team" that has thrown in the towel on the season? I'm by no means a brilliant handicapping mind, but a quick look at the Big West standings shows Fullerton tied for second with a conference record of 10-4 and an overall record of 19-8. I just wanted to bring this up as a talker for this group, as we work toward a common goal. If the common response is "shut up serpent and play it like a normal system play", then that's exactly what I'll be doing. KP and all the regulars, good luck!
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    with KPs recent "tweaking" of the system, the kenpom cutoff was moved from 180 to 165. CS Fullerton (Northridge's opponent) is now at 166. So prior to the change, this wouldn't be a play. Now I know that it's not true to form to play this system religiously (like I do) and handicap but the games, but I just wanted to bring up this talking point... One of the main points for this system is that you are playing against a bad home team that has perhaps lost it's motivation at the end of the year. But am I confident that Fullerton is a "bad home team" that has thrown in the towel on the season? I'm by no means a brilliant handicapping mind, but a quick look at the Big West standings shows Fullerton tied for second with a conference record of 10-4 and an overall record of 19-8. I just wanted to bring this up as a talker for this group, as we work toward a common goal. If the common response is "shut up serpent and play it like a normal system play", then that's exactly what I'll be doing. KP and all the regulars, good luck!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 6:55 PM ET #891

    I agree w/ S erpent...The best Value of System games is E Mich ..which I put in at 4u....3u on W Mich and 3u on CS northr...The system is a guideline ..but I suggest you cap the plays and determine what value each game has to yourself,,,
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    I agree w/ S erpent...The best Value of System games is E Mich ..which I put in at 4u....3u on W Mich and 3u on CS northr...The system is a guideline ..but I suggest you cap the plays and determine what value each game has to yourself,,,
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:24 PM ET #892

    Kine,  been following your system, and just curious.......have you done any research on the ML's of the system plays winning?  I've noticed some winning outright, but haven't kept tract
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    Kine,  been following your system, and just curious.......have you done any research on the ML's of the system plays winning?  I've noticed some winning outright, but haven't kept tract
     
    roundrock9
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:34 PM ET #893

    1-1 so far with north ridge to go

    east mich won straight up. so far betting on ML would have yielded more $$$

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    1-1 so far with north ridge to go

    east mich won straight up. so far betting on ML would have yielded more $$$

     
    p-lane1
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:34 PM ET #894

    E.Mich ml+400      
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    E.Mich ml+400      
     
    eMDeAy
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:34 PM ET #895

    loving the results tonight so far

     

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    loving the results tonight so far

     

     
    eMDeAy
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:37 PM ET #896

    and pitchblack is still a fool haha

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    and pitchblack is still a fool haha

     
    JEG53
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:48 PM ET #897

    If the guy that is playing M/Ls took E.Mich on it that was a nice pay out,think Fullerton move down was losing last game on the road as a 12 point fav.to UC Davis,team tonight they beat on the road by 2 I think it was.
    Im taking it as a play because they were losers at LB St by 8 or something the first place team.

    Miami Ohio covered so didnt matter what # BG was,was also surprised to see them 118,
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    If the guy that is playing M/Ls took E.Mich on it that was a nice pay out,think Fullerton move down was losing last game on the road as a 12 point fav.to UC Davis,team tonight they beat on the road by 2 I think it was.
    Im taking it as a play because they were losers at LB St by 8 or something the first place team.

    Miami Ohio covered so didnt matter what # BG was,was also surprised to see them 118,
     
    JEG53
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 11:56 PM ET #898

    Another winner,knew I should of went for middle,1 point at half,7 point line for sec.half,11 point win for CSF.
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    Another winner,knew I should of went for middle,1 point at half,7 point line for sec.half,11 point win for CSF.
     
    Epaminondas
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 12:00 AM ET #899

    2-1

    Not bad.
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    2-1

    Not bad.
     
     
    ebnozn
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 12:03 AM ET #900

    2-1 ATS, and wagering $100 on each ML (which went 1-2), netted +200 overall.  Not bad indeed.  Nice to be on the right side of those end of game nailbiters after the last week or so.
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    2-1 ATS, and wagering $100 on each ML (which went 1-2), netted +200 overall.  Not bad indeed.  Nice to be on the right side of those end of game nailbiters after the last week or so.
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