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    redmenrule
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 10:54 PM ET #851

    Another damn system loss for Idaho St.  Unbelievable, as I stated before system started too late this year.
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    Another damn system loss for Idaho St.  Unbelievable, as I stated before system started too late this year.
     
    ebnozn
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:02 PM ET #852

    Outside chance...need some good luck...mojo
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    Outside chance...need some good luck...mojo
     
    Sal_Tessio
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:03 PM ET #853

    Weber State didn't even cover +13.5 in an 8-point teaser.

    Good times.
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    Weber State didn't even cover +13.5 in an 8-point teaser.

    Good times.
     
    ebnozn
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:04 PM ET #854

    Ugh.. had a 3 pt attempt w/:16 left to push...another close loss....
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    Ugh.. had a 3 pt attempt w/:16 left to push...another close loss....
     
    Sal_Tessio
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:15 PM ET #855

    TCU







    Well, that's it for me.  Have a good thread!
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    TCU







    Well, that's it for me.  Have a good thread!
     
    jack4469
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:19 PM ET #856

    Rough stretch.take the. Good w the bad.kine will be back.gl to all .we will get. Through this and profit
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    Rough stretch.take the. Good w the bad.kine will be back.gl to all .we will get. Through this and profit
     
    sllab33
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:21 PM ET #857

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Tessio:

    TCU







    Well, that's it for me.  Have a good thread!

    good.  later. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Tessio:

    TCU







    Well, that's it for me.  Have a good thread!

    good.  later. 

     
    Fools_Gold
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:22 PM ET #858

    Quote Originally Posted by redmenrule:

    Another damn system loss for Idaho St.  Unbelievable, as I stated before system started too late this year.

    soooooooo...... note for next year start it when YOU want to.... I started the previous saturday rather than the sunday and picked up an extra 3 wins......

    don't get so bent out of shape.... obviously no system is gonna be a consistent 80%+ clip... cmon that's unrealistic.... but if it hits 65%+, that is money.... 

    And Jez I wish i was playin the MLs as well.... since that first saturday, the system is 6-12 SU (+1380) if playing $100 units

    Now that we all have the principles down, we can start when we please..... late in the season of course

    keep your head up... good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmenrule:

    Another damn system loss for Idaho St.  Unbelievable, as I stated before system started too late this year.

    soooooooo...... note for next year start it when YOU want to.... I started the previous saturday rather than the sunday and picked up an extra 3 wins......

    don't get so bent out of shape.... obviously no system is gonna be a consistent 80%+ clip... cmon that's unrealistic.... but if it hits 65%+, that is money.... 

    And Jez I wish i was playin the MLs as well.... since that first saturday, the system is 6-12 SU (+1380) if playing $100 units

    Now that we all have the principles down, we can start when we please..... late in the season of course

    keep your head up... good luck
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:57 PM ET #859

    Fools_Gold:  That's good info to know re: MLs.  I tracked all of the "pre' plays ryno23 was tabulating - if I recall, those were showing decent ML profits as well.

    Unfortunately, N Col just missed a ML for you tonight - hope you were at least on the side as well...
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    Fools_Gold:  That's good info to know re: MLs.  I tracked all of the "pre' plays ryno23 was tabulating - if I recall, those were showing decent ML profits as well.

    Unfortunately, N Col just missed a ML for you tonight - hope you were at least on the side as well...
     
    redmenrule
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2012 - 11:58 PM ET #860

    Oooohhh!  Just missed the money line to get some money back.  At least we finally got a cover.
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    Oooohhh!  Just missed the money line to get some money back.  At least we finally got a cover.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 12:40 AM ET #861

    N. Colo +8      (w)       cheers kp/ cigar
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    N. Colo +8      (w)       cheers kp/ cigar
     
    shazam1609
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 1:41 AM ET #862

    This is what I got for tomorrow

    Eastern Michigan + 9.5
    Central Michigan + 7.5
    Northridge + 13.5


    Fordham +6 ( Keep an eye on)

    Please correct me if I'm wrong
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    This is what I got for tomorrow

    Eastern Michigan + 9.5
    Central Michigan + 7.5
    Northridge + 13.5


    Fordham +6 ( Keep an eye on)

    Please correct me if I'm wrong
     
    KineProfessor
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 1:49 AM ET #863

    System 1-1

    Personal plays: 0-2

    There are lots of days I'm aggregated with myself for just flat betting 1-unit on all my plays, then there are days like today where I'm relieved. Gotta be in it for the long haul and as I've stated before I bet a higher percentage of my bankroll per play.  Those two losses dropped me under a "double up" for the season so as my bankroll increases my unit size goes up and when I lose and the bankroll shrinks so does the unit size. I'll expand more on this tomorrow:

    System plays per 5dimes:
    Eastern Michigan +9.5
    Central Michigan +7.5
    Northridge +13

    Almost: Fordham +6

    Also looking at: Tulsa +1.5
    Toledo -5 (only because kenpom has this a 10-pt Toledo win)
    Will look deeper at card if there is time tomorrow - good luck
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    System 1-1

    Personal plays: 0-2

    There are lots of days I'm aggregated with myself for just flat betting 1-unit on all my plays, then there are days like today where I'm relieved. Gotta be in it for the long haul and as I've stated before I bet a higher percentage of my bankroll per play.  Those two losses dropped me under a "double up" for the season so as my bankroll increases my unit size goes up and when I lose and the bankroll shrinks so does the unit size. I'll expand more on this tomorrow:

    System plays per 5dimes:
    Eastern Michigan +9.5
    Central Michigan +7.5
    Northridge +13

    Almost: Fordham +6

    Also looking at: Tulsa +1.5
    Toledo -5 (only because kenpom has this a 10-pt Toledo win)
    Will look deeper at card if there is time tomorrow - good luck
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 1:58 AM ET #864

    Hi KP,

    Much respect to you for all that you do... have been a silent follower untill now.... What would be your thoughts on LaSalle/Geo. Washington... I capped it at -4.5 for lasalle using kenpom numbers and Vegas opened it at -1.5.... Usually when there is this much discrepency with the vegas line, Makes me wonder what they know.....

    Perhaps You could help and enlighten me.

    Thanks in advance
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    Hi KP,

    Much respect to you for all that you do... have been a silent follower untill now.... What would be your thoughts on LaSalle/Geo. Washington... I capped it at -4.5 for lasalle using kenpom numbers and Vegas opened it at -1.5.... Usually when there is this much discrepency with the vegas line, Makes me wonder what they know.....

    Perhaps You could help and enlighten me.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 2:52 AM ET #865

    People, please don't complain in here. First off, nobody wants to hear it. Second off, complaining isn't going to turn your losing wager into a winner. Third off, once the wager is placed the outcome is completely out of your hands.

    The system went 1-1 tonight, so you should have lost around 0.10 units. No big deal.

    KP, keep workin' brother.

    I also like that you mention how your BR (bankroll) increases, so does your unit size. I was interested to know what % of your BR is each unit. 
    Right now I'm running about 3% of my BR per bet. 
    Maximum 7.5% of BR in play per day.

    Is that too much? 


    Thanks for all you do.
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    People, please don't complain in here. First off, nobody wants to hear it. Second off, complaining isn't going to turn your losing wager into a winner. Third off, once the wager is placed the outcome is completely out of your hands.

    The system went 1-1 tonight, so you should have lost around 0.10 units. No big deal.

    KP, keep workin' brother.

    I also like that you mention how your BR (bankroll) increases, so does your unit size. I was interested to know what % of your BR is each unit. 
    Right now I'm running about 3% of my BR per bet. 
    Maximum 7.5% of BR in play per day.

    Is that too much? 


    Thanks for all you do.
     
    JimmyTheLegend
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 4:34 AM ET #866

    Got a feeling that the new day, is a bullseye kind of day
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    Got a feeling that the new day, is a bullseye kind of day
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 7:45 AM ET #867

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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 8:03 AM ET #868

    I played Miami O+7.5,what # is Ball St?
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    I played Miami O+7.5,what # is Ball St?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 8:08 AM ET #869

    Also hit both NBA plays to almost break even,N.O. and Minn.,sec.one won outright,not going to see alot of +6.5s with them Im thinking anymore,they might just be a decent team.
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    Also hit both NBA plays to almost break even,N.O. and Minn.,sec.one won outright,not going to see alot of +6.5s with them Im thinking anymore,they might just be a decent team.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 10:15 AM ET #870

    Let the complainers keep up there complaining. I enjoy reading the plays you like yourself. You give great analysis and that is what I want to read and learn from. Lots of tournaments around the corner so hopefully you will be able to discuss games that fall into this catagory. Appreciate your time and effort.
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    Let the complainers keep up there complaining. I enjoy reading the plays you like yourself. You give great analysis and that is what I want to read and learn from. Lots of tournaments around the corner so hopefully you will be able to discuss games that fall into this catagory. Appreciate your time and effort.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 11:03 AM ET #871

    @CoverLane - well said all the way through. I'm riding it out and managing the risks. Far more at risk through my own stupid decisions that KP - love the feeling in the second half of having your team play like crap but only requiring a few breaks to get a cover...almost as good as your team blowing it out box to wire. 

    Lots of underdogs on the board tonight outside of the system. I went a bit crazy with Marquette (+2), Maryland(+18) and Umass(+11.5). 

    Marquette can run with anyone and even though Cincy has looked good, even on the road Marquette has held their own of late.

    I think N. Carolina isn't looking to make a statement heading into the Duke game and just want a win. Look for them to hold back in H2 unless Maryland catches them looking forward...either way, 18 points is a lot. 

    Lastly, Temple has been too inconsistent to impress me enough to be a historically good program by a dozen.
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    @CoverLane - well said all the way through. I'm riding it out and managing the risks. Far more at risk through my own stupid decisions that KP - love the feeling in the second half of having your team play like crap but only requiring a few breaks to get a cover...almost as good as your team blowing it out box to wire. 

    Lots of underdogs on the board tonight outside of the system. I went a bit crazy with Marquette (+2), Maryland(+18) and Umass(+11.5). 

    Marquette can run with anyone and even though Cincy has looked good, even on the road Marquette has held their own of late.

    I think N. Carolina isn't looking to make a statement heading into the Duke game and just want a win. Look for them to hold back in H2 unless Maryland catches them looking forward...either way, 18 points is a lot. 

    Lastly, Temple has been too inconsistent to impress me enough to be a historically good program by a dozen.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 12:16 PM ET #872

    GOOD LUCK TONIGHT BOYS 
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    GOOD LUCK TONIGHT BOYS 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #873

    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    System 1-1

    Personal plays: 0-2

    There are lots of days I'm aggregated with myself for just flat betting 1-unit on all my plays, then there are days like today where I'm relieved. Gotta be in it for the long haul and as I've stated before I bet a higher percentage of my bankroll per play.  Those two losses dropped me under a "double up" for the season so as my bankroll increases my unit size goes up and when I lose and the bankroll shrinks so does the unit size. I'll expand more on this tomorrow:

    System plays per 5dimes:
    Eastern Michigan +9.5
    Central Michigan +7.5
    Northridge +13

    Almost: Fordham +6

    Also looking at: Tulsa +1.5
    Toledo -5 (only because kenpom has this a 10-pt Toledo win)
    Will look deeper at card if there is time tomorrow - good luck


    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    System 1-1

    Personal plays: 0-2

    There are lots of days I'm aggregated with myself for just flat betting 1-unit on all my plays, then there are days like today where I'm relieved. Gotta be in it for the long haul and as I've stated before I bet a higher percentage of my bankroll per play.  Those two losses dropped me under a "double up" for the season so as my bankroll increases my unit size goes up and when I lose and the bankroll shrinks so does the unit size. I'll expand more on this tomorrow:

    System plays per 5dimes:
    Eastern Michigan +9.5
    Central Michigan +7.5
    Northridge +13

    Almost: Fordham +6

    Also looking at: Tulsa +1.5
    Toledo -5 (only because kenpom has this a 10-pt Toledo win)
    Will look deeper at card if there is time tomorrow - good luck


    Don't forget that you did wager 1.5 Units on Weber State...1 unit at 5...and a (1/2) unit more at 5.5...
     
    RyS
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 1:41 PM ET #874

    One thing Im gonna keep an eye on...

    One of the "angles" the system is based according to KP is playing against public perception, Thats why there was value on bad teams on the road getting > +6 pts vs not good teams at home..

    well I didnt check it before yesterday, but maybe this system got too "public", let me explain..

    Yesterdays system Idaho St. was a public favorite (wish contradicts the system) and lost, but N. Colorado was not favored by public (and won ats almost SU)

    I know that to base premises based in one day sample is not valid, but I'm gonna keep eye on it from now on and keep record of it(not here).

    Eg Today all 3 system plays are public favorite, also almost play (wrong conference) Army is public favorite while the other "almost" plays (Fordham, VA Milit, High Point) are not favored. 

    lets see how these develop..

    GL
    Rysuno
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    One thing Im gonna keep an eye on...

    One of the "angles" the system is based according to KP is playing against public perception, Thats why there was value on bad teams on the road getting > +6 pts vs not good teams at home..

    well I didnt check it before yesterday, but maybe this system got too "public", let me explain..

    Yesterdays system Idaho St. was a public favorite (wish contradicts the system) and lost, but N. Colorado was not favored by public (and won ats almost SU)

    I know that to base premises based in one day sample is not valid, but I'm gonna keep eye on it from now on and keep record of it(not here).

    Eg Today all 3 system plays are public favorite, also almost play (wrong conference) Army is public favorite while the other "almost" plays (Fordham, VA Milit, High Point) are not favored. 

    lets see how these develop..

    GL
    Rysuno
     
     
    PitchBlack2011
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 1:56 PM ET #875

    RyS...where are you getting your public numbers, covers has all three plays by the system as non public faves (below 50%)...
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    RyS...where are you getting your public numbers, covers has all three plays by the system as non public faves (below 50%)...
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