Cincinnati @ St. Louis Game Overview

CIN vs STLRecords

CIN vs STLRecords

Team Table
Team W/L H/A $ RF RA Tot O/U
Cincinnati logo CIN 57-78 25-41 -978 4.53 5.22 9.75 70-60
St. Louis logo STL 76-59 37-29 756 4.62 4.04 8.66 60-68

CIN vs STLHead To Head

Win / Loss
5-5 Even
Over / Under
7-3-0
Head-To-Head
Date Home Result ML O/U CIN Starter (IP) STL Starter (IP)
Aug 31, '18 STL St. Louis logo 12 - 5 STL -180 o9.0 H. Bailey (5.0) A. Gomber (7.0)
Jul 25, '18 CIN Cincinnati logo 7 - 3 CIN +118 o9.0 S. Romano (6.0) J. Flaherty (5.0)
Jul 24, '18 CIN St. Louis logo 4 - 2 STL -121 u10.5 H. Bailey (6.2) A. Gomber (6.1)
Jul 23, '18 CIN Cincinnati logo 2 - 1 CIN -114 u9.5 L. Castillo (5.1) D. Ponce de Leon (7.0)
Jul 15, '18 STL St. Louis logo 6 - 4 STL -151 o8.5 A. DeSclafani (3.1) M. Mikolas (4.0)
Jul 14, '18 STL Cincinnati logo 8 - 2 CIN +127 o9.0 L. Castillo (5.0) J. Flaherty (5.0)
Jul 13, '18 STL Cincinnati logo 9 - 1 CIN +146 o9.0 M. Harvey (5.0) C. Martinez (5.0)
Jun 10, '18 CIN Cincinnati logo 6 - 3 CIN +106 u9.5 A. DeSclafani (5.0) C. Martinez (3.2)
Jun 09, '18 CIN St. Louis logo 6 - 4 STL +105 o9.5 L. Castillo (6.0) M. Wacha (5.2)
Jun 08, '18 CIN St. Louis logo 7 - 6 STL -132 o9.5 M. Harvey (6.0) L. Weaver (5.0)

Cincinnati logo Cincinnati Record Last 10

Win / Loss
2-8-0
Over / Under
5-5-0
ML
-$496
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Aug 31, '18 @ St. Louis logo STL L 5 - 12 L +165 o9.0 H. Bailey (5.0) A. Gomber (7.0)
Aug 30, '18 Milwaukee logo MIL L 1 - 2 L +131 u9.0 C. Reed (4.2) W. Miley (7.1)
Aug 29, '18 Milwaukee logo MIL L 12 - 13 L +134 o9.0 M. Harvey (4.0) F. Peralta (4.1)
Aug 28, '18 Milwaukee logo MIL W 9 - 7 W +113 o9.0 A. DeSclafani (6.2) J. Guerra (1.1)
Aug 26, '18 @ Chicago logo CHC L 0 - 9 L +232 u10.0 H. Bailey (5.0) K. Hendricks (7.0)
Aug 25, '18 @ Chicago logo CHC L 6 - 10 L +161 o10.0 L. Castillo (3.1) J. Quintana (5.0)
Aug 24, '18 @ Chicago logo CHC L 2 - 3 L +179 u11.5 M. Harvey (5.1) A. Mills (5.2)
Aug 23, '18 @ Chicago logo CHC L 1 - 7 L +180 u9.0 A. DeSclafani (6.0) C. Hamels (9.0)
Aug 22, '18 @ Milwaukee logo MIL L 0 - 4 L +241 u9.0 R. Stephenson (5.0) F. Peralta (7.0)
Aug 21, '18 @ Milwaukee logo MIL W 9 - 7 W +191 o9.0 S. Romano (5.0) J. Guerra (5.1)

Cincinnati Next 3 Games

St. Louis logo St. Louis Record Last 10

Win / Loss
8-2-0
Over / Under
3-7-0
ML
$759
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Aug 31, '18 Cincinnati logo CIN W 12 - 5 W -180 o9.0 A. Gomber (7.0) H. Bailey (5.0)
Aug 30, '18 Pittsburgh logo PIT W 5 - 0 W -109 u7.5 J. Gant (5.2) J. Musgrove (6.0)
Aug 29, '18 Pittsburgh logo PIT L 0 - 2 L -150 u8.0 M. Mikolas (5.0) T. Williams (6.0)
Aug 28, '18 Pittsburgh logo PIT W 5 - 2 W -163 u8.0 J. Flaherty (7.0) I. Nova (3.2)
Aug 26, '18 @ Colorado logo COL W 12 - 3 W +136 o11.5 A. Gomber (6.0) T. Anderson (0.2)
Aug 25, '18 @ Colorado logo COL L 1 - 9 L +143 u11.0 J. Gant (7.0) G. Marquez (7.0)
Aug 24, '18 @ Colorado logo COL W 7 - 5 W -125 o10.5 M. Mikolas (4.2) A. Senzatela (4.1)
Aug 22, '18 @ Los Angeles logo LAD W 3 - 1 W +161 u7.5 J. Flaherty (6.0) W. Buehler (7.0)
Aug 21, '18 @ Los Angeles logo LAD W 5 - 2 W +191 u8.0 D. Ponce de Leon (4.0) H. Ryu (4.0)
Aug 20, '18 @ Los Angeles logo LAD W 5 - 3 W +182 u8.5 A. Gomber (5.0) A. Wood (4.0)

St. Louis Next 3 Games

Series Stats

Remaining Games - Series CIN @ STL
Date CIN Starter STL Starter
Sun, Sep 2 14:15 ET A. DeSclafani R (7-8 4.93) L. Weaver R (7-11 4.95)

Series Game Records

Cincinnati - series game records
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 19-25 7-14 14-17
Game 2 17-25 10-10 12-19
Game 3 17-22 8-12 12-15
Game 4 4-6 4-2 0-6
St. Louis - series game records
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 24-20 14-13 13-12
Game 2 24-19 15-12 14-11
Game 3 22-16 12-15 13-7
Game 4 6-3 4-2 3-1

Next 3 Series

Cincinnati
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Sun, Sep 2 - Sun, Sep 2 @ STL logo STL 88-74 43-38 H
Mon, Sep 3 - Wed, Sep 5 @ PIT logo PIT 82-79 44-36 H
Thu, Sep 6 - Sun, Sep 9 vs SD logo SD 66-96 35-46 A
St. Louis
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Sun, Sep 2 - Sun, Sep 2 vs CIN logo CIN 67-95 30-51 A
Mon, Sep 3 - Wed, Sep 5 @ WAS logo WAS 82-80 41-40 H
Fri, Sep 7 - Sun, Sep 9 @ DET logo DET 64-98 38-43 H

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CIN vs STLInjury report

Cincinnati logoCincinnati's Injuries

Player POS Status Date Note
No injuries to report.

Cincinnati Starters Last Game

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St. Louis's Injuries

Player POS Status Date Note
No injuries to report.

St. Louis Starters Last Game

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CIN vs STL Starters Recent Games

Win / Loss
2-3
ERA
4.18
Avg. IP
5.1
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Aug 25, '18 CHC 10 - CIN 6
L +161 o10.0 3.1 5 5 5 2 1 2 64 19.2 2.5
Aug 19, '18 CIN 11 - SF 4
W -101 o8.5 6.2 6 3 1 9 0 0 98 14.7 2.0
Aug 12, '18 CIN 2 - AZ 9
L -101 o9.0 5.2 5 5 5 7 1 2 88 15.5 2.5
Aug 05, '18 WAS 2 - CIN 1
L +138 u9.0 5.1 6 2 2 3 2 1 88 16.5 7.0
Jul 29, '18 CIN 4 - PHI 0
W -113 u9.0 7.0 4 0 0 9 1 0 102 14.6 0.8
Last 5 Avg. 5.1 5.2 3.0 2.6 6.0 1.0 1.0 88.0 16.1 3.0
Last Vs St. Louis
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Jul 23, '18 CIN 2 - STL 1
W -114 u9.5 5.1 4 1 1 5 1 0 85 15.9 1.0
Jul 14, '18 STL 2 - CIN 8
W +127 o9.0 5.0 5 2 2 2 0 1 53 10.6 7.0
Jun 09, '18 CIN 4 - STL 6
L -114 o9.5 6.0 4 5 5 10 3 2 110 18.3 2.0
Last 3 Avg. 5.1 4.3 2.7 2.7 5.7 1.3 1.0 82.7 15.0 3.3
Win / Loss
1-1
ERA
0.82
Avg. IP
5.1
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Aug 21, '18 LAD 2 - STL 5
W +191 u8.0 4.0 5 1 1 8 1 0 90 22.5 0.5
Jul 23, '18 CIN 2 - STL 1
L +105 u9.5 7.0 0 0 0 3 3 0 116 16.6 1.0
Last 2 Avg. 5.1 2.5 0.5 0.5 5.5 2.0 0.0 103.0 19.5 0.8
Last Vs Cincinnati
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Jul 23, '18 CIN 2 - STL 1
L +105 u9.5 7.0 0 0 0 3 3 0 116 16.6 1.0
Last 1 Avg. 7.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 3.0 0.0 116.0 16.6 1.0

CIN vs STLStats

CIN vs STL Stats Analysis

All Pitchers
Team ERA AVG. OBP WHIP IP HR BB K
Cincinnati logo Cincinnati 4.83 .268 .328 1.39 8.2 1.5 3.0 7.7
St. Louis logo St. Louis 3.66 .240 .311 1.27 8.2 0.9 3.2 8.1

More Stats

Cincinnati Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Lucas Sims (R) 190 6 10.1 12 9 9 2 7 10 8.10 1.84 10:3
Last 3 3 4.1 4 2 2 0 3 3 4.50 1.62 6:2
Zack Weiss (R) 142 1 0.0 2 4 4 2 2 0 0.00 0.00 0:0
Last 3 1 0.0 2 4 4 2 2 0 0.00 0.00 0:0
Kevin Quackenbush (R) 132 10 9.0 13 11 11 3 5 7 11.00 2.00 9:5
Last 3 3 2.1 5 6 6 1 2 5 27.00 3.00 1:0
Kevin Shackelford (R) 105 5 8.0 13 8 7 0 3 7 7.88 2.00 8:6
Last 3 3 4.1 5 3 3 0 2 5 6.75 1.62 5:3
Dylan Floro (R) 60 46 59.0 51 16 15 3 14 52 2.29 1.10 72:26
Last 3 3 4.0 4 0 0 0 0 5 0.00 1.00 4:1
Tanner Rainey (R) 52 8 7.0 13 19 19 4 11 7 24.43 3.43 6:5
Last 3 3 2.0 9 11 11 2 5 2 49.50 7.00 1:2
Kyle Crockett (L) 37 15 9.1 16 8 6 1 1 11 6.00 1.82 10:1
Last 3 3 3.2 7 2 2 1 0 4 6.00 1.91 3:1
Jesus Reyes (R) 28 1 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 3:2
Last 3 1 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 3:2
Keury Mella (R) 20 4 9.1 13 9 9 4 8 8 9.00 2.25 10:6
Last 3 3 5.0 10 8 8 4 4 6 14.40 2.80 4:3
Amir Garrett (L) 7 58 57.2 52 27 27 8 20 66 4.26 1.25 40:29
Last 3 3 3.1 6 2 2 1 2 4 6.00 2.40 2:2
Robert Stephenson (R) 6 4 11.2 17 12 12 2 9 11 9.82 2.23 9:8
Last 3 3 7.2 14 9 9 2 6 7 11.57 2.61 7:4
Wandy Peralta (L) 4 50 40.1 47 27 22 1 28 28 4.95 1.86 47:18
Last 3 3 4.0 8 3 0 0 3 2 0.00 2.75 6:3
Raisel Iglesias (R) 3 54 59.1 47 18 17 10 14 64 2.59 1.03 53:25
Last 3 3 2.2 5 3 3 2 0 3 13.50 1.88 4:1
Austin Brice (R) 2 33 37.1 39 26 24 9 7 32 5.84 1.23 42:15
Last 3 3 4.1 4 4 4 3 1 2 9.00 1.15 8:1
David Hernandez (R) 2 46 52.0 38 16 15 5 14 52 2.60 1.00 39:31
Last 3 3 3.0 4 3 3 1 1 4 9.00 1.67 1:0
Jared Hughes (R) 2 60 66.1 49 14 14 4 19 52 1.91 1.03 93:20
Last 3 3 2.1 1 2 2 1 2 2 9.00 1.29 3:0
Michael Lorenzen (R) 2 37 57.2 54 23 20 4 25 42 3.16 1.37 69:25
Last 3 3 4.1 4 3 2 1 1 6 4.50 1.15 4:1
Cody Reed (L) 2 12 19.1 18 9 7 3 7 17 3.32 1.29 22:12
Last 3 3 7.1 5 1 1 0 4 7 1.29 1.23 10:2
Sal Romano (R) 2 29 132.0 140 82 79 22 45 96 5.39 1.40 157:72
Last 3 3 3.1 1 1 1 0 2 3 3.00 0.90 6:0
Homer Bailey (R) 0 19 101.1 135 79 69 23 23 71 6.15 1.56 115:55
Last 3 3 16.0 25 16 9 5 2 12 5.06 1.69 24:7
Matt Wisler (R) 0 8 28.2 31 16 16 6 6 24 5.14 1.29 18:16
Last 3 3 6.0 9 5 5 1 1 7 7.50 1.67 2:4
Jackson Stephens (R) 0 21 30.1 47 29 21 7 9 25 6.30 1.85 37:9
Last 3 3 2.1 7 6 6 1 2 2 27.00 3.86 3:0
Bullpen Total 798 527 808.0 847 462 423 123 277 682 4.71 1.39 869:389
Last 3 62 94.1 139 94 83 28 45 91 7.92 1.95 107:39
Available Bullpen 798 479 647.2 634 338 317 87 239 562 4.41 1.35 699:309


St. Louis Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Giovanny Gallegos (R) 190 4 10.0 10 5 5 2 3 10 4.50 1.30 10:7
Last 3 3 8.0 8 5 5 2 3 9 5.63 1.38 9:4
Ryan Sherriff (L) 116 5 5.2 8 4 4 1 2 3 7.20 1.76 8:3
Last 3 3 3.2 7 3 3 1 0 2 9.00 1.91 4:2
Alex Reyes (R) 94 1 4.0 3 0 0 0 2 2 0.00 1.25 2:2
Last 3 1 4.0 3 0 0 0 2 2 0.00 1.25 2:2
Preston Guilmet (R) 86 8 10.0 18 13 13 6 3 8 11.70 2.10 8:7
Last 3 3 3.2 8 6 6 3 2 2 18.00 2.73 3:5
Matt Bowman (R) 43 22 23.0 29 16 16 4 8 26 6.26 1.61 27:9
Last 3 3 3.1 8 5 5 0 0 3 15.00 2.40 4:1
Greg Holland (R) 42 45 35.0 39 29 23 1 24 33 5.91 1.80 36:16
Last 3 3 2.0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0.00 1.00 1:1
Tyler Lyons (L) 39 27 16.2 24 16 16 3 6 19 9.00 1.80 12:11
Last 3 3 2.0 5 5 5 0 1 2 22.50 3.00 1:2
Sam Tuivailala (R) 39 36 37.0 41 15 14 3 10 30 3.41 1.38 46:21
Last 3 3 2.2 3 1 1 0 1 3 4.50 1.50 2:1
Luke Gregerson (R) 38 17 12.2 14 10 10 2 6 12 7.50 1.58 18:4
Last 3 3 3.1 5 2 2 0 2 4 6.00 2.10 6:0
John Brebbia (R) 29 33 40.0 37 17 17 4 11 45 3.83 1.20 24:26
Last 3 3 3.2 3 2 2 1 2 5 6.00 1.36 0:3
Tyler Webb (L) 18 10 12.2 12 7 7 2 4 9 5.25 1.26 12:5
Last 3 3 3.2 2 0 0 0 1 3 0.00 0.82 2:2
Daniel Ponce de Leon (R) 10 7 21.2 13 5 5 2 10 18 2.14 1.06 16:14
Last 3 3 7.0 9 3 3 1 1 10 3.86 1.43 3:4
Tyson Ross (R) 6 26 137.2 120 68 64 16 56 112 4.20 1.28 158:63
Last 3 3 8.1 4 2 1 0 5 1 1.13 1.08 14:3
Mike Mayers (R) 6 42 45.2 46 22 21 5 12 42 4.20 1.27 45:18
Last 3 3 2.0 3 2 2 0 1 4 9.00 2.00 1:0
Bud Norris (R) 3 56 53.2 44 19 17 5 11 63 2.89 1.02 48:23
Last 3 3 3.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.00 0.67 7:0
Chasen Shreve (L) 2 51 46.2 47 25 20 10 22 56 3.91 1.48 36:25
Last 3 3 2.0 3 0 0 0 2 1 0.00 2.50 1:3
Dakota Hudson (R) 2 15 15.2 10 5 5 0 10 10 3.00 1.28 26:4
Last 3 3 1.2 4 3 3 0 2 2 27.00 3.60 3:0
Carlos Martinez (R) 2 22 104.2 90 45 38 5 49 101 3.29 1.33 113:43
Last 3 3 3.0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.00 0.00 1:2
Luke Weaver (R) 2 27 129.1 139 70 66 17 42 114 4.60 1.40 125:66
Last 3 3 4.0 5 1 1 1 0 2 2.25 1.25 7:2
Dominic Leone (R) 0 18 16.0 16 6 6 3 1 15 3.38 1.06 7:14
Last 3 3 3.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.33 3:3
Brett Cecil (L) 0 34 28.0 34 23 21 3 18 17 6.75 1.86 25:20
Last 3 3 1.1 5 6 6 1 2 2 54.00 5.25 2:0
Jordan Hicks (R) 0 63 67.1 51 25 23 1 35 58 3.09 1.28 97:21
Last 3 3 2.0 4 1 1 0 3 2 4.50 3.50 2:1
Bullpen Total 767 569 873.0 845 445 411 95 345 803 4.24 1.36 899:422
Last 3 64 77.1 91 47 46 10 33 64 5.35 1.60 78:41
Available Bullpen 767 454 761.2 744 391 361 88 291 713 4.27 1.36 770:367
Cincinnati All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Yovani Gallardo (R) 146 15 67.1 72 46 45 9 32 42 6.04 1.54 81:33
Brandon Finnegan (L) 118 5 20.2 27 20 17 5 13 14 7.65 1.94 20:16
Tyler Mahle (R) 30 22 109.0 120 66 60 21 43 105 4.95 1.50 100:54
Robert Stephenson (R) 6 4 11.2 17 12 12 2 9 11 9.82 2.23 9:8
Anthony DeSclafani (R) 4 15 87.0 84 44 42 18 20 75 4.34 1.20 83:50
Matt Harvey (R) 3 27 126.2 137 72 70 21 30 101 5.00 1.32 136:69
Michael Lorenzen (R) 2 37 57.2 54 23 20 4 25 42 3.16 1.37 69:25
Cody Reed (L) 2 12 19.1 18 9 7 3 7 17 3.32 1.29 22:12
Homer Bailey (R) 0 19 101.1 135 79 69 23 23 71 6.15 1.56 115:55


St. Louis All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Adam Wainwright (R) 111 4 18.0 19 9 8 2 13 15 4.00 1.78 22:6
Alex Reyes (R) 94 1 4.0 3 0 0 0 2 2 0.00 1.25 2:2
Michael Wacha (R) 73 15 84.1 68 36 30 9 36 71 3.21 1.23 96:40
Tyson Ross (R) 6 26 137.2 120 68 64 16 56 112 4.20 1.28 158:63
Jack Flaherty (R) 3 22 122.1 84 42 39 16 40 149 2.88 1.01 104:54
John Gant (R) 2 21 91.2 70 41 34 7 39 78 3.36 1.19 95:46
Dakota Hudson (R) 2 15 15.2 10 5 5 0 10 10 3.00 1.28 26:4
Carlos Martinez (R) 2 22 104.2 90 45 38 5 49 101 3.29 1.33 113:43
Miles Mikolas (R) 2 27 167.0 158 60 55 14 23 117 2.96 1.08 220:76
Austin Gomber (L) 0 24 55.1 49 20 17 3 21 45 2.78 1.27 49:32
Umpire G W-L AVG PIT STR B STR% STR BB K/BB HR O/U
Jerry Meals 27 14-13 8.07 300.67 188.89 111.78 62.8 17.5 6.1 2.84 2.07 10-15




Vs Reds
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
May 8, 2018 CIN 7 - NYM 2 W -137 U 9.5 Jason Vargas (L) Luis Castillo (R)
Apr 11, 2018 PHI 4 - CIN 3 W -107 U 7.5 Luis Castillo (R) Nick Pivetta (R)


Vs Cardinals
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
Jun 29, 2018 STL 1 - ATL 5 L -134 U 8.5 Julio Teheran (R) Miles Mikolas (R)
Jun 11, 2018 STL 5 - SD 2 W -172 U 8.5 Jordan Lyles (R) Jack Flaherty (R)
Apr 27, 2018 PIT 6 - STL 5 W +115 O 8.5 Miles Mikolas (R) Steven Brault (L)


Vs Luis Castillo (R)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
May 8, 2018 CIN 7 - NYM 2 W -137 U 9.5 Jason Vargas (L) Luis Castillo (R)
Apr 11, 2018 PHI 4 - CIN 3 W -107 U 7.5 Luis Castillo (R) Nick Pivetta (R)


Vs Daniel Ponce de Leon (R)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter

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Betting Terminology

  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds
  • O/U: Closing total and odds
  • IP: Innings pitched by the starter
  • H: Hits allowed by the starter
  • R: Runs allowed by the starter
  • ER: Earned runs allowed by the starter
  • SO: Strikeouts thrown by the starter
  • BB: Walks allowed by the starter
  • HR: Home runs allowed by the starter
  • PIT: Total pitches thrown by the starter
  • P/IP: Pitches thrown per inning by the starter
  • GB:FB: Groundball - flyball ratio by the starter

Betting Terminology

  • W/L: Win-loss record (last 10)
  • Net $: $ won/lost based on $100 bets (last 10)
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  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds for the game
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Betting Terminology

  • Runs/9: Runs per nine innings
  • AVG: Batting average
  • Hits: Average hits per game
  • HR: Average home runs per game
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) per game
  • EB Hits: Average extra base hits per game
  • SB: Average stolen bases per game
  • OBP: On base percentage
  • R: Runs allowed
  • ER: Earned runs allowed
  • AVG: Batting average allowed
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  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) allowed
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  • K(S): Average strikeouts by starters
  • K(B): Average strikeouts by bullpen
  • Rest(B): % of relievers that are available to pitch today
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