Final Sep 22
TB 0 +125 o6.5
NYY 2 -136 u6.5
Final Sep 22
WAS 3 +135 o8.0
DET 1 -147 u8.0
Final Sep 22
MIL 4 +139 o7.0
PHI 6 -151 u7.0
Final Sep 22
STL 0 +146 o7.0
PIT 2 -160 u7.0
Final Sep 22
CLE 3 +109 o6.0
BOS 2 -118 u6.0
Final Sep 22
TB 6 +110 o6.0
NYY 1 -119 u6.0
Final Sep 22
CIN 4 +203 o9.5
ATL 0 -225 u9.5
Final Sep 22
CHW 14 -116 o8.0
KC 11 +107 u8.0
Final (12) Sep 22
MIA 8 +184 o6.5
CHC 2 -202 u6.5
Final Sep 22
NYM 6 +112 o8.5
TEX 3 -121 u8.5
Final Sep 22
AZ 7 -169 o11.0
COL 2 +155 u11.0
Final Sep 22
HOU 7 +116 o7.0
SEA 0 -126 u7.0
Final Sep 22
LAA 7 -105 o9.5
ATH 9 -103 u9.5
Final Sep 22
MIN 3 -139 o7.5
SF 2 +128 u7.5
Final Sep 22
SD 0 +114 o8.5
LAD 7 -124 u8.5
Seattle
Atlanta

Seattle vs Atlanta   Results, Match Player Stats & Records

Boxscore

Livescore Details
Team R H E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Seattle Mariners SEA Seattle 2 9 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
Atlanta Braves ATL Atlanta 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Seattle Pitcher Hisashi Iwakuma H. Iwakuma (W)

Atlanta Pitcher Michael Minor M. Minor (L)

Betting Information
Team ML O/U (Margin) ATS (Margin)
Seattle Mariners SEA Seattle +127 7o +1.5 (3.5)
Atlanta Braves ATL Atlanta -138 7u (5) -1.5

Batting Stats

Seattle Batting Stats Table
POS AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
W. Bloomquist 1B 4 0 1 0 1 1 2 .234
E. Chavez CF -RF 5 0 1 0 0 0 4 .190
R. Canó 2B 5 1 1 0 0 1 3 .330
S. Romero RF 4 0 2 0 0 1 0 .214
     J. Jones RP -CF 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 .283
K. Seager 3B 4 0 1 1 0 1 2 .265
M. Zunino C 4 0 1 0 0 3 3 .228
C. Gillespie LF 4 0 2 1 0 2 2 .303
B. Miller SS 3 0 0 0 1 3 3 .170
J. Smoak PH -1B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .211
Totals 35 2 9 2 3 13 20

Battling

  • 3B - Stefen Romero (2)
  • TB - William Bloomquist 1, Endy Chavez 1, Robinson Canó 1, Stefen Romero 4, Kyle Seager 1, Michael Zunino 1, Cole Gillespie 2
  • RBI - Kyle Seager (37), Cole Gillespie (2)
  • Team LOB - 20

Fielding

  • DP - 1
Atlanta Batting Stats Table
POS AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
J. Heyward RF 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 .254
M. Upton CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 .217
F. Freeman 1B 4 0 0 0 0 3 2 .290
J. Upton LF 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 .294
J. Gattis C 4 0 1 0 0 2 2 .260
T. La Stella 2B 3 0 1 0 0 0 1 .409
A. Simmons SS 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 .259
R. Doumit PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .197
Totals 29 0 5 0 0 8 11

Battling

  • TB - Jason Heyward 2, Justin Upton 1, James Gattis 1, Thomas La Stella 1
  • Team LOB - 12

Pitching Stats

Seattle Pitching Stats Table
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
H. Iwakuma (W 4-2) 7 .0 6 0 0 0 7 0 2.66
Y. Medina (H 10) 1 .0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3.13
F. Rodney (S 16) 1 .0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2.38
  • Pitches-Strikes - Hisashi Iwakuma 0-0, Yoervis Medina 0-0, Fernando Rodney 0-0
  • Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Hisashi Iwakuma 11-0, Yoervis Medina 1-0, Fernando Rodney 1-1
  • Batters Faced - Hisashi Iwakuma 26, Yoervis Medina 3, Fernando Rodney 3
Atlanta Pitching Stats Table
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
M. Minor (L 2-4) 7 .0 5 1 1 2 10 0 3.07
L. Avilán 0 .1 2 1 1 0 0 0 4.66
S. Simmons 0 .2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0.00
D. Carpenter 1 .0 2 0 0 0 1 0 3.75
  • Pitches-Strikes - Michael Minor 0-0, Luis Avilán 0-0, Shae Simmons 0-0, Darrell Carpenter 0-0
  • Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Michael Minor 9-2, Luis Avilán 1-0, Shae Simmons 0-0, Darrell Carpenter 0-1
  • Batters Faced - Michael Minor 29, Luis Avilán 3, Shae Simmons 2, Darrell Carpenter 5

Game Info

Location   Turner Field

Temperature   Temperature

Attendance  -  attendance

Home  Marty  Foster

1st  Will  Little

2nd  Ted  Barrett

3rd  Paul  Schrieber

SEA vs ATLRecords

SEA vs ATLRecords

Team Table
Team W/L H/A $ RF RA Tot O/U
Seattle logo SEA 30-28 16-13 325 4.22 3.83 8.05 28-27
Atlanta logo ATL 31-26 18-13 110 3.49 3.33 6.82 21-33

SEA vs ATLHead To Head

Win / Loss
5-2
Over / Under
5-2-0
Head-To-Head
Date Home Result ML O/U SEA Starter (IP) ATL Starter (IP)
Jun 03, '14 ATL Seattle logo 7 - 5 SEA +147 o7.5 E. Ramírez (3.0) G. Floyd (5.0)
Jun 29, '11 SEA Atlanta logo 5 - 3 ATL +133 o6.0 F. Hernández (7.2) D. Lowe (6.0)
Jun 28, '11 SEA Atlanta logo 5 - 4 ATL +105 o6.0 M. Pineda (6.1) T. Hanson (6.0)
Jun 27, '11 SEA Atlanta logo 3 - 1 ATL +105 u6.5 E. Bedard (7.0) B. Beachy (6.0)
Jun 22, '08 ATL Atlanta logo 8 - 3 ATL -197 o9.0 C. Silva (4.0) T. Hudson (7.0)
Jun 21, '08 ATL Atlanta logo 5 - 4 ATL -159 u9.5 J. Washburn (5.2) J. Jurrjens (6.0)
Jun 20, '08 ATL Seattle logo 10 - 2 SEA +120 o8.5 E. Bedard (3.0) J. Campillo (6.1)

Seattle logo Seattle Record Last 10

Win / Loss
6-4-0
Over / Under
5-5-0
ML
$320
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Jun 03, '14 @ Atlanta logo ATL W 7 - 5 W +147 o7.5 E. Ramírez (3.0) G. Floyd (5.0)
Jun 02, '14 @ New York logo NYY W 10 - 2 W -131 o7.5 F. Hernández (7.0) D. Phelps (6.0)
Jun 01, '14 Detroit logo DET W 4 - 0 W +145 u7.5 R. Elías (9.0) M. Scherzer (6.2)
May 31, '14 Detroit logo DET W 3 - 2 W +137 u7.5 C. Young (6.0) T. Smyly (4.0)
May 30, '14 Detroit logo DET L 3 - 6 L -110 o7.0 H. Iwakuma (6.0) J. Verlander (7.2)
May 29, '14 Los Angeles logo LAA L 5 - 7 L +108 o8.0 B. Maurer (4.0) M. Shoemaker (5.1)
May 28, '14 Los Angeles logo LAA W 3 - 1 W -126 u6.5 F. Hernández (8.2) C. Wilson (7.2)
May 27, '14 Los Angeles logo LAA L 4 - 6 L +120 o7.0 R. Elías (6.1) J. Weaver (6.0)
May 26, '14 Los Angeles logo LAA W 5 - 1 W +136 u7.5 C. Young (6.1) T. Skaggs (7.0)
May 25, '14 Houston logo HOU L 1 - 4 L -134 u6.5 H. Iwakuma (7.0) D. Keuchel (9.0)

Seattle Next 3 Games

Atlanta logo Atlanta Record Last 10

Win / Loss
4-6-0
Over / Under
4-6-0
ML
-$273
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Jun 03, '14 Seattle logo SEA L 5 - 7 L -160 o7.5 G. Floyd (5.0) E. Ramírez (3.0)
Jun 01, '14 @ Miami logo MIA W 4 - 2 W +106 u7.5 A. Harang (6.2) N. Eovaldi (8.0)
May 31, '14 @ Miami logo MIA W 9 - 5 W -119 o7.5 E. Santana (6.0) J. Turner (5.0)
May 30, '14 @ Miami logo MIA W 3 - 2 W -130 u7.5 J. Teheran (7.1) T. Koehler (7.0)
May 29, '14 @ Boston logo BOS L 3 - 4 L -113 u8.0 M. Minor (7.0) J. Peavy (8.0)
May 28, '14 @ Boston logo BOS L 0 - 4 L +130 u8.0 G. Floyd (5.0) J. Lackey (6.1)
May 27, '14 Boston logo BOS L 3 - 6 L -105 o7.0 A. Harang (6.0) J. Lester (6.0)
May 26, '14 Boston logo BOS L 6 - 8 L -131 o7.0 E. Santana (5.0) C. Buchholz (3.0)
May 25, '14 Colorado logo COL W 7 - 0 W -166 u7.5 J. Teheran (6.0) F. Morales (4.2)
May 24, '14 Colorado logo COL L 1 - 3 L -147 u7.5 M. Minor (6.1) J. Nicasio (6.0)

Atlanta Next 3 Games

Series Stats

Series Game Records

Seattle - series game records
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 14-6 15-10 18-10
Game 2 7-11 16-16 11-9
Game 3 9-6 12-11 11-11
Game 4 0-5 1-5 3-3
Atlanta - series game records
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 10-10 10-13 14-15
Game 2 12-7 17-7 9-19
Game 3 8-9 12-14 13-9
Game 4 1-0 2-3 2-3

Next 3 Series

Seattle
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Fri, Jun 6 - Mon, Jun 9 @ TB logo TB 77-85 36-45 H
Tue, Jun 10 - Thu, Jun 12 vs NYY logo NYY 84-78 41-40 A
Fri, Jun 13 - Sun, Jun 15 vs TEX logo TEX 67-95 34-47 A
Atlanta
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Fri, Jun 6 - Sun, Jun 8 @ AZ logo AZ 64-98 33-48 H
Mon, Jun 9 - Thu, Jun 12 @ COL logo COL 65-95 45-35 H
Fri, Jun 13 - Sun, Jun 15 vs LAA logo LAA 98-64 46-35 A

SEA vs ATL Preview

Last Meeting ( Jun 3, 2014 ) Seattle 7, Atlanta 5

SEA vs ATLInjury report

Seattle logoSeattle's Injuries

Seattle Starters Last Game

Pitchers
POS # Player
SP 0 Felix Hernandez
RP 0 Brandon Maurer
RP 0 Joe Beimel
RP 0 Yoervis Medina
RP 0 Danny Farquhar
Hitters
POS # Player
CF 0 Austin Jackson
RP-CF 0 * James Jones
LF 0 Dustin Ackley
LF 0 * Stefen Romero
2B 0 Robinson Cano
2B 0 * Brad Miller
DH 0 Kendrys Morales
3B 0 Kyle Seager
1B 0 Logan Morrison
RF 0 Michael Saunders
C 0 Mike Zunino
SS 0 Chris Taylor
(* - Change In Order)

Atlanta's Injuries

Atlanta Starters Last Game

Pitchers
POS # Player
RP 0 James Russell
RP 0 Luis Avilan
RP 0 Anthony Varvaro
RP 0 David Carpenter
RP 0 Craig Kimbrel
Hitters
POS # Player
CF 0 Emilio Bonifacio
SS 0 Phil Gosselin
1B 0 Freddie Freeman
C 0 Evan Gattis
LF 0 Ryan Doumit
RF 0 Joey Terdoslavich
2B 0 Tommy La Stella
PH 0 Gerald Laird
(* - Change In Order)

Marty Foster

2014

Jersey Number 0

Games Officiated 33

Home Team W/L 18-15


Home Avg. Margin 0.39

Home Money Total 31

Official Stats
Umpire G W-L AVG PIT STR B STR% STR BB K/BB HR O/U
Marty Foster 33 18-15 7.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 15.3 5.2 2.93 1.64 13-19
Game Stats

Game Stats

Average7.24
Starters Runs4.73
BullPens Runs2.52
Pitches0.0
Strikes0.0
Balls0.0
Strike%0.00 %
SO15.3
Walks5.2
SO/Walks2.93
HR1.6
Home Favourite & Underdog

Home Favourite

Home Underdog

-101 to -1203 - 0 100 to 1102 - 0
-121 to -1404 - 6 111 to 1302 - 2
-141 to -1603 - 1 131 to 1500 - 1
-161 to -1800 - 3 151 to 1701 - 0
-181 +3 - 2 171 +0 - 0
Over/Under by Total

Total

Over Under
7 or less44
7.537
823
8.513
912
9.510
1010
10.500
1100
11.500
1200
12.500
13+00


Vs Mariners
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
Apr 1, 2014 LAA 3 - SEA 8 L -166 O 7.5 Erasmo Ramírez (R) Christopher Wilson (L)


Vs Braves
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter


Vs Hisashi Iwakuma (R)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter


Vs Michael Minor (L)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter

SEA vs ATL Starters Recent Games

Win / Loss
2-3
ERA
2.68
Avg. IP
7.1
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
May 30, '14 SEA 3 - DET 6
L -110 o7.0 6.0 8 5 5 5 1 2 0 0.0 8.0
May 25, '14 SEA 1 - HOU 4
L -134 u6.5 7.0 9 4 4 6 0 2 0 0.0 1.0
May 20, '14 TEX 2 - SEA 6
W -108 u8.5 8.0 6 2 2 3 1 1 0 0.0 10.0
May 13, '14 SEA 1 - TB 2
L +111 u6.5 8.0 4 0 0 5 0 0 0 0.0 2.8
May 08, '14 SEA 1 - KC 0
W -119 u6.5 8.0 4 0 0 7 0 0 0 0.0 11.0
Last 5 Avg. 7.1 6.2 2.2 2.2 5.2 0.4 1.0 0.0 0.0 6.5
Last Vs Atlanta
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Hisashi Iwakuma has not played against ATL Braves.
Win / Loss
2-3
ERA
3.48
Avg. IP
6.0
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
May 29, '14 BOS 4 - ATL 3
L -113 u8.0 7.0 7 1 1 3 0 0 0 0.0 1.8
May 24, '14 ATL 1 - COL 3
L -147 u7.5 6.1 4 3 3 6 3 2 0 0.0 1.4
May 19, '14 ATL 9 - MIL 3
W -122 o7.0 6.2 5 2 2 5 2 1 0 0.0 1.5
May 13, '14 SF 0 - ATL 5
W -108 u7.0 6.2 3 0 0 6 2 0 0 0.0 1.2
May 07, '14 ATL 1 - STL 7
L +102 o7.0 4.1 11 6 6 6 2 1 0 0.0 3.0
Last 5 Avg. 6.0 6.0 2.4 2.4 5.2 1.8 0.8 0.0 0.0 1.8
Last Vs Seattle
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Michael Minor has not played against SEA Mariners.

SEA vs ATLStats

SEA vs ATL Stats Analysis

All Pitchers
Team ERA AVG. OBP WHIP IP HR BB K
Seattle logo Seattle 3.54 .238 .300 1.21 8.2 1.0 2.8 7.6
Atlanta logo Atlanta 3.00 .241 .297 1.20 8.2 0.7 2.6 8.4

More Stats

Seattle Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Lucas Luetge (L) 37 3 2.1 1 2 2 1 2 2 9.00 1.29 3:0
Last 3 3 2.1 1 2 2 1 2 2 9.00 1.29 3:0
Brandon Maurer (R) 5 7 32.1 43 29 27 5 14 17 7.59 1.76 35:22
Last 3 3 12.0 14 13 13 3 9 7 9.75 1.92 10:8
Christopher Young (R) 3 11 63.1 46 24 23 10 24 30 3.29 1.11 42:64
Last 3 3 18.2 12 7 7 4 8 12 3.50 1.07 9:20
Yoervis Medina (R) 3 24 22.0 17 9 8 2 11 23 3.27 1.27 25:7
Last 3 3 3.0 2 0 0 0 1 3 0.00 1.00 2:1
Joseph Beimel (L) 1 19 17.2 17 4 4 0 4 11 2.12 1.19 19:8
Last 3 3 3.2 3 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 1.09 5:1
Charles Furbush (L) 1 25 16.2 18 9 9 2 5 15 5.06 1.38 10:12
Last 3 3 2.1 2 1 1 1 0 2 4.50 0.86 2:2
Fernando Rodney (R) 0 23 21.2 22 8 6 1 10 27 2.57 1.48 22:8
Last 3 3 2.1 1 0 0 0 1 4 0.00 0.86 1:0
Daniel Farquhar (R) 0 24 26.2 22 8 8 1 10 28 2.77 1.20 22:18
Last 3 3 3.1 5 1 1 0 0 2 3.00 1.50 3:3
Erasmo Ramírez (R) 0 7 33.0 41 25 25 9 11 28 6.82 1.58 30:23
Last 3 3 15.0 17 10 10 5 4 16 6.00 1.40 8:14
Dominic Leone (R) 0 21 25.2 19 5 4 2 10 30 1.44 1.13 30:4
Last 3 3 4.2 5 1 1 0 1 6 2.25 1.29 5:1
Bullpen Total 50 164 261.1 246 123 116 33 101 211 3.99 1.33 238:166
Last 3 30 67.1 62 35 35 14 27 55 4.68 1.32 48:50
Available Bullpen 48 45 120.0 107 64 60 18 51 72 4.50 1.32 105:93


Atlanta Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
James Russell (L) 97 22 14.1 13 6 5 2 6 14 3.21 1.33 15:8
Last 3 3 2.1 2 0 0 0 0 2 0.00 0.86 2:3
Augustus Schlosser (R) 34 9 11.0 7 6 6 1 2 6 4.91 0.82 13:4
Last 3 3 5.0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1.80 0.20 6:3
Jordan Walden (R) 30 14 12.1 8 4 4 1 6 19 3.00 1.14 11:6
Last 3 3 3.0 2 2 2 1 1 4 6.00 1.00 3:1
Ian Thomas (L) 7 16 10.2 10 5 5 0 5 13 4.50 1.41 8:5
Last 3 3 2.1 2 2 2 0 2 2 9.00 1.71 1:1
David Hale (R) 3 16 39.0 29 8 6 0 15 19 1.38 1.13 56:18
Last 3 3 2.2 1 0 0 0 2 0 0.00 1.13 6:2
Craig Kimbrel (R) 3 22 20.1 12 6 4 0 9 37 1.80 1.03 11:9
Last 3 3 2.0 1 1 0 0 2 1 0.00 1.50 2:4
Darrell Carpenter (R) 3 27 23.0 29 12 10 2 6 28 3.91 1.52 13:17
Last 3 3 0.2 7 4 4 0 1 1 0.00 12.00 1:0
Shae Simmons (R) 2 2 1.1 2 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 2.25 2:0
Last 3 2 1.1 2 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 2.25 2:0
Luis Avilán (L) 0 29 19.0 21 9 9 1 6 15 4.26 1.42 30:4
Last 3 3 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0.00 0.50 3:1
Anthony Varvaro (R) 0 23 20.1 16 6 6 1 4 24 2.70 0.98 19:9
Last 3 3 2.1 2 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 1.29 3:1
Bullpen Total 179 180 171.1 147 62 55 8 60 176 2.89 1.21 178:80
Last 3 29 23.2 19 10 9 1 12 15 3.42 1.31 29:16
Available Bullpen 179 128 132.0 110 47 40 6 50 137 2.73 1.21 129:67
Seattle All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
James Paxton (L) 56 2 12.0 6 3 3 2 2 13 2.25 0.67 14:1
Roenis Elías (L) 2 12 74.0 64 33 29 7 26 65 3.53 1.22 77:29
Félix Hernández (R) 1 13 91.0 78 33 26 3 16 91 2.57 1.03 102:30
Thomas Wilhelmsen (R) 0 24 28.2 21 10 9 2 14 27 2.89 1.22 33:8


Atlanta All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Julio Teheran (R) 4 12 83.2 58 21 17 9 20 66 1.84 0.93 75:61
Ervin Santana (R) 3 10 63.2 62 29 29 5 19 58 4.14 1.27 68:25
Aaron Harang (R) 2 12 72.1 67 29 26 3 21 73 3.25 1.22 54:35
Robert Wood (L) 0 16 59.0 62 23 23 7 14 61 3.51 1.29 54:28
Gavin Floyd (R) 0 6 35.1 43 18 11 3 9 31 2.83 1.47 40:14

Betting Terminology

  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds
  • O/U: Closing total and odds
  • IP: Innings pitched by the starter
  • H: Hits allowed by the starter
  • R: Runs allowed by the starter
  • ER: Earned runs allowed by the starter
  • SO: Strikeouts thrown by the starter
  • BB: Walks allowed by the starter
  • HR: Home runs allowed by the starter
  • PIT: Total pitches thrown by the starter
  • P/IP: Pitches thrown per inning by the starter
  • GB:FB: Groundball - flyball ratio by the starter

Betting Terminology

  • W/L: Win-loss record (last 10)
  • Net $: $ won/lost based on $100 bets (last 10)
  • O/U: Over under record (last 10)
  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds for the game
  • O/U: Closing total and odds for the game
  • Away/Home Starter: Starting pitchers for the game
  • Last vs: The result last time the teams played
  • Schedule Starter: Expected starter for the upcoming game

Betting Terminology

Records below refer to the game # of all series across the season. Game 1, game 2 etc.

  • Overall: Team’s season record
  • After Win: Team’s record for the game immediately after a win
  • After Loss: Team’s record for the game immediately after a loss

Betting Terminology

  • Runs/9: Runs per nine innings
  • AVG: Batting average
  • Hits: Average hits per game
  • HR: Average home runs per game
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) per game
  • EB Hits: Average extra base hits per game
  • SB: Average stolen bases per game
  • OBP: On base percentage
  • R: Runs allowed
  • ER: Earned runs allowed
  • AVG: Batting average allowed
  • HR: Average home runs allowed
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) allowed
  • IP(S): Average innings pitched by starters
  • K(S): Average strikeouts by starters
  • K(B): Average strikeouts by bullpen
  • Rest(B): % of relievers that are available to pitch today
  • RF: Average team runs for. The run support pitchers are getting

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