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    jakeandba
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    Posted: May. 13, 2010 - 12:18 AM ET #551

    have you found any significance to the TR diff and a % of series wins vs just betting the system as is?

     

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    have you found any significance to the TR diff and a % of series wins vs just betting the system as is?

     

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2010 - 12:35 AM ET #552

    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    have you found any significance to the TR diff and a % of series wins vs just betting the system as is?

     

    Nothing concrete as of yet.  We are definitely not helping ourselves much thus far playing on road teams.  I posted the numbers on the previous page.  2 of the 3 losses have come from road plays.  As the rankings get more settled in we may see more patterns we can capitalize on

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    have you found any significance to the TR diff and a % of series wins vs just betting the system as is?

     

    Nothing concrete as of yet.  We are definitely not helping ourselves much thus far playing on road teams.  I posted the numbers on the previous page.  2 of the 3 losses have come from road plays.  As the rankings get more settled in we may see more patterns we can capitalize on

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2010 - 3:55 PM ET #553

    STL about to get swept by HOU at home. Dirty birds.
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    STL about to get swept by HOU at home. Dirty birds.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2010 - 7:23 PM ET #554

    Wow i think my cat could have played better than those cardinals in this series
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    Wow i think my cat could have played better than those cardinals in this series
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 10:57 AM ET #555

    wow the update lines are going to look ugly

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    wow the update lines are going to look ugly

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 3:08 PM ET #556

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    Plays for 5/13:

    System record 59-3-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    Series #67 (G3) 1:40          hou @ STL -220, RL -130 

    *Series #68 (G1) 8:40           was @ COL -190, RL 100 

      Guys, I got a push on colorado as I play anything above 190 on RL will update lines according to that. 

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =40

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U (Martingale)

    +34.0U aggressive labby updated 5/12 PM

    5-5-5-41-39           (push)

    x-x-x-x-51      

    x-5-56-39           (lost 78, put half here, half to 1, new line

    bad day guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    Plays for 5/13:

    System record 59-3-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    Series #67 (G3) 1:40          hou @ STL -220, RL -130 

    *Series #68 (G1) 8:40           was @ COL -190, RL 100 

      Guys, I got a push on colorado as I play anything above 190 on RL will update lines according to that. 

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =40

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U (Martingale)

    +34.0U aggressive labby updated 5/12 PM

    5-5-5-41-39           (push)

    x-x-x-x-51      

    x-5-56-39           (lost 78, put half here, half to 1, new line

    bad day guys.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 3:24 PM ET #557

    Plays for 5/14:

    System record 59-4-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    *Series #69 (G1) 2:20      pit @ CHC -199, RL -110   10

    *Series #68 (G1/2) 8:40           was @ COL -228, RL -120

     *Series #70 (G1) 7:05          min @ NYY -168      9.5

    Series #71 (G1) 7:10            sea @ TB  -182        8.5

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =40

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U+ pending (Martingale)

    +34.0U aggressive labby updated 5/14 PM

    5-5-5-41-39          

    x-x-x-x-51      

    x-5-56-39          

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    Plays for 5/14:

    System record 59-4-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    *Series #69 (G1) 2:20      pit @ CHC -199, RL -110   10

    *Series #68 (G1/2) 8:40           was @ COL -228, RL -120

     *Series #70 (G1) 7:05          min @ NYY -168      9.5

    Series #71 (G1) 7:10            sea @ TB  -182        8.5

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =40

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U+ pending (Martingale)

    +34.0U aggressive labby updated 5/14 PM

    5-5-5-41-39          

    x-x-x-x-51      

    x-5-56-39          

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 3:27 PM ET #558

    Watch the Hou at SF line, if closes above 150 will be a play.  Sorry about getting the plays up late.  I barely got my wager for the cubs in as I missed there was an afternoon play today.
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    Watch the Hou at SF line, if closes above 150 will be a play.  Sorry about getting the plays up late.  I barely got my wager for the cubs in as I missed there was an afternoon play today.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 4:17 PM ET #559

    Series info:

     

    min (4, 102.0) @ NYY (1, 105.5) = +3, +3.5               NYY -200

    sea (29, 96.9) @ TB (10, 101.3) = +19, +4.4              TB -280

    pit (30,95.3)  @ CHC (24, 98.3) = +6, +3.0                     ??

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    Series info:

     

    min (4, 102.0) @ NYY (1, 105.5) = +3, +3.5               NYY -200

    sea (29, 96.9) @ TB (10, 101.3) = +19, +4.4              TB -280

    pit (30,95.3)  @ CHC (24, 98.3) = +6, +3.0                     ??

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 5:59 PM ET #560

    Why are the cubs heavy favorites all the time!  These a holes are constantly lucky to squeak out a win one game of every series!  This season is really trying my patience
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    Why are the cubs heavy favorites all the time!  These a holes are constantly lucky to squeak out a win one game of every series!  This season is really trying my patience
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 6:52 PM ET #561

    I've about had it with the fucking NL Central!!
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 10:50 PM ET #562

    i think i am going to play each series start with the filter of 9 or higher o/u.  Your numbers seem to support a great rate of return.

    Considering playing the last game of series if home fav lost first two. 

    trying to eliminate or at least cut the rate of having bad weeks like these past two.

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    i think i am going to play each series start with the filter of 9 or higher o/u.  Your numbers seem to support a great rate of return.

    Considering playing the last game of series if home fav lost first two. 

    trying to eliminate or at least cut the rate of having bad weeks like these past two.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 12:47 AM ET #563

    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    i think i am going to play each series start with the filter of 9 or higher o/u.  Your numbers seem to support a great rate of return.

    Considering playing the last game of series if home fav lost first two. 

    trying to eliminate or at least cut the rate of having bad weeks like these past two.

    yeah jake, i hear you.  It has been rough the last few weeks.  Dogs have been barking like crazy lately.  I have also been noticing teams that cause us a loss end up winning the next game, so I took a shot with STL tonight and won. of course, thanks to the cubs and rays I still ended up in the negative because of the juice.  The labby lines should get most of it back for us over time but in the short term not very good.  I have been playing all the games at least on -1 and a lot of -1.5 because I just can't justify laying the juice on some of these teams.  The lines are going to be getting too large.  I would recommend splitting them until things settle down some.  We are going to have a break coming up with a lot of two game series next week and then interleague games.  I was hoping we would have gotten a lot of our losses back this weekend but we are not off to a great start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    i think i am going to play each series start with the filter of 9 or higher o/u.  Your numbers seem to support a great rate of return.

    Considering playing the last game of series if home fav lost first two. 

    trying to eliminate or at least cut the rate of having bad weeks like these past two.

    yeah jake, i hear you.  It has been rough the last few weeks.  Dogs have been barking like crazy lately.  I have also been noticing teams that cause us a loss end up winning the next game, so I took a shot with STL tonight and won. of course, thanks to the cubs and rays I still ended up in the negative because of the juice.  The labby lines should get most of it back for us over time but in the short term not very good.  I have been playing all the games at least on -1 and a lot of -1.5 because I just can't justify laying the juice on some of these teams.  The lines are going to be getting too large.  I would recommend splitting them until things settle down some.  We are going to have a break coming up with a lot of two game series next week and then interleague games.  I was hoping we would have gotten a lot of our losses back this weekend but we are not off to a great start.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 2:30 AM ET #564

    Plays for 5/14:

    System record 59-4-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    *Series #69 (G1) 2:20      pit @ CHC -199, RL -110 

    *Series #68 (G1/2) 8:40           was @ COL -228, RL -120 ppd

     *Series #70 (G1) 7:05          min @ NYY -168     

    Series #71 (G1) 7:10            sea @ TB  -182       

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =40

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U+ pending (Martingale)

    +26.6U aggressive labby updated 5/14 PM

    x-5-5-41-x-59           (won 44, lost 48 + 70.4)

    5-5-5-51-59      

    x-5-56-39   

    if your lines are getting too fat consider splitting your last numbers.  we need a rally really badly!       

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    Plays for 5/14:

    System record 59-4-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    *Series #69 (G1) 2:20      pit @ CHC -199, RL -110 

    *Series #68 (G1/2) 8:40           was @ COL -228, RL -120 ppd

     *Series #70 (G1) 7:05          min @ NYY -168     

    Series #71 (G1) 7:10            sea @ TB  -182       

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =40

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U+ pending (Martingale)

    +26.6U aggressive labby updated 5/14 PM

    x-5-5-41-x-59           (won 44, lost 48 + 70.4)

    5-5-5-51-59      

    x-5-56-39   

    if your lines are getting too fat consider splitting your last numbers.  we need a rally really badly!       

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 12:51 PM ET #565

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    Plays for 5/15:

    System record 60-4-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    *Series #69 (G2) 1:05             pit @ CHC -240, RL -115 

    *Series #68 (G1/2) 2:10           was @ COL -240, RL -120

    Series #71 (G2) 4:10            sea @ TB  -210, RL even      

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =41

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U+ pending (Martingale)

    +26.6U aggressive labby updated 5/14 PM

    x-5-5-41-x-59          

    5-5-5-51-59      

    x-5-56-39   

    if your lines are getting too fat consider splitting your last numbers.  we need a rally really badly!       

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    Plays for 5/15:

    System record 60-4-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

    Series       Game   Time       Teams        o/u      TR diff          

    *Series #69 (G2) 1:05             pit @ CHC -240, RL -115 

    *Series #68 (G1/2) 2:10           was @ COL -240, RL -120

    Series #71 (G2) 4:10            sea @ TB  -210, RL even      

    OPTIONAL SERIES (Non System)       

     

    **meet o/u filter of 9+

     

    TR diffs(for reference only)

    Series Prices (for future reference only)

     

    Game 1 wins =41

    Game 2 wins = 13

    Game 3 wins = 6

    *Losses = 3 , -42.6U+ pending (Martingale)

    +26.6U aggressive labby updated 5/14 PM

    x-5-5-41-x-59          

    5-5-5-51-59      

    x-5-56-39   

    if your lines are getting too fat consider splitting your last numbers.  we need a rally really badly!       

     
    CInderellaStory
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 5:13 PM ET #566

    We all need to slapped in the face for actually laying our money on the CUBS.
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    We all need to slapped in the face for actually laying our money on the CUBS.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 5:26 PM ET #567

    Rizz:  need to ask if you can post the game break down for all games using the o/u 9 filter (just like you do for all games played)?

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    Rizz:  need to ask if you can post the game break down for all games using the o/u 9 filter (just like you do for all games played)?

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 5:49 PM ET #568

    Quote Originally Posted by CInderellaStory:

    We all need to slapped in the face for actually laying our money on the CUBS.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.  I didn't play cubs today but did put them in a parlay with col and phi.  I don't understand their lines being so high.  I think the books just love seeing people pay the chalk on them plus this series is a JM chase series and seems like they jack the chalk up in these cases also.  Some of the filters we are coming up with are a little arbitrary but look at chc ranking.  I don't think we should be laying that much on the 24th ranked home team.  I post all the potential plays especially for tracking but my feeling is this is the type of series we will be filtering out next season based on the ranking alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CInderellaStory:

    We all need to slapped in the face for actually laying our money on the CUBS.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.  I didn't play cubs today but did put them in a parlay with col and phi.  I don't understand their lines being so high.  I think the books just love seeing people pay the chalk on them plus this series is a JM chase series and seems like they jack the chalk up in these cases also.  Some of the filters we are coming up with are a little arbitrary but look at chc ranking.  I don't think we should be laying that much on the 24th ranked home team.  I post all the potential plays especially for tracking but my feeling is this is the type of series we will be filtering out next season based on the ranking alone.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 6:05 PM ET #569

    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    Rizz:  need to ask if you can post the game break down for all games using the o/u 9 filter (just like you do for all games played)?

    With o/u 9+ filter in place:

    Record = 28-1 all teams, 23-0 home teams

    All teams:

    G1 = 17-12

    G2 = 8-4

    G3 = 3-1

    Home teams

    G1 = 16 - 7

    G2 = 5-2

    G3 = 2-0

    Of course we have our friends the cubs waiting as a game 3 as a home team who passes the o/u filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    Rizz:  need to ask if you can post the game break down for all games using the o/u 9 filter (just like you do for all games played)?

    With o/u 9+ filter in place:

    Record = 28-1 all teams, 23-0 home teams

    All teams:

    G1 = 17-12

    G2 = 8-4

    G3 = 3-1

    Home teams

    G1 = 16 - 7

    G2 = 5-2

    G3 = 2-0

    Of course we have our friends the cubs waiting as a game 3 as a home team who passes the o/u filter.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 6:24 PM ET #570

    wow those are great numbers for playing a 3 game chase with the o/u filter of 9....i think it says volumns
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    wow those are great numbers for playing a 3 game chase with the o/u filter of 9....i think it says volumns
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:06 PM ET #571

    Rizz, I know you are probably burned out on backtesting!  Is there any way you could look at last seasons results implementing this O/U filter?
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    Rizz, I know you are probably burned out on backtesting!  Is there any way you could look at last seasons results implementing this O/U filter?
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:10 PM ET #572

    Quote Originally Posted by CInderellaStory:

    Rizz, I know you are probably burned out on backtesting!  Is there any way you could look at last seasons results implementing this O/U filter?

    I did that at some point. It was 152-2 with the o/u filter, I posted the game breakdowns also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CInderellaStory:

    Rizz, I know you are probably burned out on backtesting!  Is there any way you could look at last seasons results implementing this O/U filter?

    I did that at some point. It was 152-2 with the o/u filter, I posted the game breakdowns also.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:13 PM ET #573

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    2009 AL with O/U filter

    ML Record 88-1

    Game 1 = 58-31, 65.2%

    Game 2 = 21-10, 67.7%

    Game 3 = 9-1, 90%

     

    RL record for all games regardless of odds = 85-4

    Game 1 = 45-44, 50.6%

    Game 2 = 24-20, 54.5%

    Game 3 = 16-4, 80%

    Here it is CS.  I will figure out the same with just playing home teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    2009 AL with O/U filter

    ML Record 88-1

    Game 1 = 58-31, 65.2%

    Game 2 = 21-10, 67.7%

    Game 3 = 9-1, 90%

     

    RL record for all games regardless of odds = 85-4

    Game 1 = 45-44, 50.6%

    Game 2 = 24-20, 54.5%

    Game 3 = 16-4, 80%

    Here it is CS.  I will figure out the same with just playing home teams

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:16 PM ET #574

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    NL 2009 with 9+ O/U filter

    ML record = 63-1

    Game 1 = 51-13, 79.7%  ---- holy schnikes!

    Game 2 = 9-4, 69.2%

    Game 3 = 3-1, 75%

     

    Runline record for all 3 games regardless of odds = 60-4

    Game 1 = 37-27, 57.8%

    Game 2 = 16-11, 59.3%

    Game 3 = 7-4, 63.6%

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    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    NL 2009 with 9+ O/U filter

    ML record = 63-1

    Game 1 = 51-13, 79.7%  ---- holy schnikes!

    Game 2 = 9-4, 69.2%

    Game 3 = 3-1, 75%

     

    Runline record for all 3 games regardless of odds = 60-4

    Game 1 = 37-27, 57.8%

    Game 2 = 16-11, 59.3%

    Game 3 = 7-4, 63.6%

     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 7:35 PM ET #575

    Eliminating road teams doesn't change things much with the filter and didn't elminate any losses

    For AL -7 G1's, -3 G2's, and -2 G3's

    For NL: -3 G1's, -1 G2's

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    Eliminating road teams doesn't change things much with the filter and didn't elminate any losses

    For AL -7 G1's, -3 G2's, and -2 G3's

    For NL: -3 G1's, -1 G2's

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