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    smitler
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:01 PM ET #301

    Usually use Betus for AJM and BookMaker for JM.
    Almost always at least a half point difference.
    BookMaker only lets you buy 2 points, but its like getting 2.5 points for -150 as opposed to 3 at betus for -170 for the same point spread.

    I encourage you to get a Betus account if you are playing AJM.
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    Usually use Betus for AJM and BookMaker for JM.
    Almost always at least a half point difference.
    BookMaker only lets you buy 2 points, but its like getting 2.5 points for -150 as opposed to 3 at betus for -170 for the same point spread.

    I encourage you to get a Betus account if you are playing AJM.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:38 PM ET #302

    Quote Originally Posted by BN727:

    Tahoe

    Sometimes with a 2 gamer like this
    I just do a teaser with both!

    Has worked !

    that defeats the whole purpose of the system...either lay your money down on the chase or not....there will be so many occassions where you have multiple games going and you split them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BN727:

    Tahoe

    Sometimes with a 2 gamer like this
    I just do a teaser with both!

    Has worked !

    that defeats the whole purpose of the system...either lay your money down on the chase or not....there will be so many occassions where you have multiple games going and you split them...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 1:22 AM ET #303

    AJM: A-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                         L by 14
            B-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110                       W by 6
            C-1/27-Clippers at Nets    No line yet

    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves +6.5/8.5 -150 BM           L by 27
            C-1/27-Wolves +13.5/15.5 -150 BM

    JM1: A-1/25-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -155 5Dimes     L by 11
            B-1/26-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -150 BM          W by 5    51-2
    AJM: A-1/25-Nuggets -5 -110 Betus                W by 11  51-2
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    AJM: A-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                         L by 14
            B-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110                       W by 6
            C-1/27-Clippers at Nets    No line yet

    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves +6.5/8.5 -150 BM           L by 27
            C-1/27-Wolves +13.5/15.5 -150 BM

    JM1: A-1/25-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -155 5Dimes     L by 11
            B-1/26-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -150 BM          W by 5    51-2
    AJM: A-1/25-Nuggets -5 -110 Betus                W by 11  51-2
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 9:17 AM ET #304

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    AJM: A-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                         L by 14
            B-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110                       W by 6
            C-1/27-Clippers at Nets    No line yet

    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves +6.5/8.5 -150 BM           L by 27
            C-1/27-Wolves +13.5/15.5 -150 BM

    JM1: A-1/25-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -155 5Dimes     L by 11
            B-1/26-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -150 BM          W by 5    51-2
    AJM: A-1/25-Nuggets -5 -110 Betus                W by 11  51-2
    Smitler, whats your plays tonight. A question for you, are you gonna antijm with the ver3 plays also or are you just going to stick to v1 and v2 for the antijm, thanks and gl
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    AJM: A-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                         L by 14
            B-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110                       W by 6
            C-1/27-Clippers at Nets    No line yet

    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves +6.5/8.5 -150 BM           L by 27
            C-1/27-Wolves +13.5/15.5 -150 BM

    JM1: A-1/25-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -155 5Dimes     L by 11
            B-1/26-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -150 BM          W by 5    51-2
    AJM: A-1/25-Nuggets -5 -110 Betus                W by 11  51-2
    Smitler, whats your plays tonight. A question for you, are you gonna antijm with the ver3 plays also or are you just going to stick to v1 and v2 for the antijm, thanks and gl
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 2:59 PM ET #305

    Nets are only +6.5, wtf? I will wait for a better line or possibly not play.
    TWolves 13.5/15.5 -150

    Version 3 Plays

    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120
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    Nets are only +6.5, wtf? I will wait for a better line or possibly not play.
    TWolves 13.5/15.5 -150

    Version 3 Plays

    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 4:49 PM ET #306

    and the difference with version 3 is?
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    and the difference with version 3 is?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 4:56 PM ET #307

    Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    OK here are all of JM NBA V3 plays

    JM V3 is a 3 game road trip with teams all in the same conference.


    JM NBA V3.0

    Jan 27 Miami Heat
    Jan 27 Denver Nuggets
    Jan 31 Golden State Warriors
    Jan 31 Phoenix Suns
    Feb 1 Milwaukee Bucks
    Feb 3 New Jersey Nets
    Feb 3 Miami Heat
    Feb 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Feb 3 San Antonio Spurs
    Feb 8 Dallas Mavericks
    Feb 10 Miami Heat
    Feb 16 Utah Jazz
    Feb 17 Sacramento Kings
    Feb 25 Milwaukee Bucks
    Mar 2 Sacramento Kings
    Mar 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Mar 10 Denver Nuggets
    Mar 12 Los Angeles Lakers
    Mar 14 Minnesota Timberwolves
    Mar 14 New Orleans Hornets
    Mar 18 Orlando Magic
    Mar 19 Charlotte Bobcats
    Mar 22 Miami Heat
    Mar 24 Los Angeles Lakers
    Apr 1 Portland Trailblazers
    Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
    Apr 7 Utah Jazz
    Apr 9 Dallas Mavericks
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    Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    OK here are all of JM NBA V3 plays

    JM V3 is a 3 game road trip with teams all in the same conference.


    JM NBA V3.0

    Jan 27 Miami Heat
    Jan 27 Denver Nuggets
    Jan 31 Golden State Warriors
    Jan 31 Phoenix Suns
    Feb 1 Milwaukee Bucks
    Feb 3 New Jersey Nets
    Feb 3 Miami Heat
    Feb 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Feb 3 San Antonio Spurs
    Feb 8 Dallas Mavericks
    Feb 10 Miami Heat
    Feb 16 Utah Jazz
    Feb 17 Sacramento Kings
    Feb 25 Milwaukee Bucks
    Mar 2 Sacramento Kings
    Mar 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Mar 10 Denver Nuggets
    Mar 12 Los Angeles Lakers
    Mar 14 Minnesota Timberwolves
    Mar 14 New Orleans Hornets
    Mar 18 Orlando Magic
    Mar 19 Charlotte Bobcats
    Mar 22 Miami Heat
    Mar 24 Los Angeles Lakers
    Apr 1 Portland Trailblazers
    Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
    Apr 7 Utah Jazz
    Apr 9 Dallas Mavericks
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 4:57 PM ET #308

    Raptors -3 Betus
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 10:16 PM ET #309

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Raptors -3 Betus
    Hey smitler, nice call on Tonto,     but Im curious why didnt you bet Houston?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Raptors -3 Betus
    Hey smitler, nice call on Tonto,     but Im curious why didnt you bet Houston?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2010 - 11:33 PM ET #310

    I bet everything listed in post 303 and 305.
    You do understand the format right?
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    I bet everything listed in post 303 and 305.
    You do understand the format right?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2010 - 10:19 AM ET #311

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    I bet everything listed in post 303 and 305.
    You do understand the format right?
    Thanks, Sorry my bad, I dont know how I didnt see it, so you are betting ajm for v1,v2,v3 in nba, is that correct?  I wish someone would check to see the past results (wins/loses) with jm's version 3. I've been with jm for 3 -4years now...if I remember right he was adamant about "not" playing games in conference...now all of a sudden he says its ok to do play in conference games.  I think he notices that this year is a fluke and the in conference games are winning so he changed his mind, so I would be very cautious with the v3 plays. Smitler I'll be tailing you, thanks and keep up the good work
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    I bet everything listed in post 303 and 305.
    You do understand the format right?
    Thanks, Sorry my bad, I dont know how I didnt see it, so you are betting ajm for v1,v2,v3 in nba, is that correct?  I wish someone would check to see the past results (wins/loses) with jm's version 3. I've been with jm for 3 -4years now...if I remember right he was adamant about "not" playing games in conference...now all of a sudden he says its ok to do play in conference games.  I think he notices that this year is a fluke and the in conference games are winning so he changed his mind, so I would be very cautious with the v3 plays. Smitler I'll be tailing you, thanks and keep up the good work
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2010 - 12:45 PM ET #312

    No problem.
    I am betting V3 both ways but for only half $ of V1 and V2.
    Are you getting emails from JM for V1 and V2 plays?
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    No problem.
    I am betting V3 both ways but for only half $ of V1 and V2.
    Are you getting emails from JM for V1 and V2 plays?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2010 - 5:37 PM ET #313

    Since your betting both sides of AJM and JM for V1 and V2, how many units are you up or down? I feel like catching the middle is hard to do. Am I again misunderstanding your plays? haha. Thanks again.

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    Since your betting both sides of AJM and JM for V1 and V2, how many units are you up or down? I feel like catching the middle is hard to do. Am I again misunderstanding your plays? haha. Thanks again.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2010 - 6:51 PM ET #314

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    No problem.
    I am betting V3 both ways but for only half $ of V1 and V2.
    Are you getting emails from JM for V1 and V2 plays?
    just v1
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    No problem.
    I am betting V3 both ways but for only half $ of V1 and V2.
    Are you getting emails from JM for V1 and V2 plays?
    just v1
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 1:52 AM ET #315

    AJM: A-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                         L by 14
            B-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110                       W by 6
            C-1/27-Nets +7 -110                               W by 15    52-2

    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves +6.5/8.5 -150 BM           L by 27
            C-1/27-Wolves +13.5/15.5 -150 BM       L by 14        52-2

    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150                   L by 8
             B-1/29-Heat
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110                   W by 8        1-0

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150                   W by 5        1-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120                    L by 5
            B-1/29-Thunder
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    AJM: A-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                         L by 14
            B-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110                       W by 6
            C-1/27-Nets +7 -110                               W by 15    52-2

    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves +6.5/8.5 -150 BM           L by 27
            C-1/27-Wolves +13.5/15.5 -150 BM       L by 14        52-2

    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150                   L by 8
             B-1/29-Heat
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110                   W by 8        1-0

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150                   W by 5        1-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120                    L by 5
            B-1/29-Thunder
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 2:04 AM ET #316

    Quote Originally Posted by ketut:

    Thanks, Sorry my bad, I dont know how I didnt see it, so you are betting ajm for v1,v2,v3 in nba, is that correct?  I wish someone would check to see the past results (wins/loses) with jm's version 3. I've been with jm for 3 -4years now...if I remember right he was adamant about "not" playing games in conference...now all of a sudden he says its ok to do play in conference games.  I think he notices that this year is a fluke and the in conference games are winning so he changed his mind, so I would be very cautious with the v3 plays. Smitler I'll be tailing you, thanks and keep up the good work

     

    No, you gotta remember that JM isn't the originate of any of these systems. He steals almost all of them from Tod at Platinum sports investing. Tod just came out with the (What JM calls V3) and JM quickly marketed it. Remember that Tod recommends the Labouchere method of money management though so this is a case where the system will probably work well for him but not with JM's martingale approach as there are going to be a few more losses. JM has pretty much killed the V1 system by overmarketing it and now the lines are always out of whack against us so hence the new versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketut:

    Thanks, Sorry my bad, I dont know how I didnt see it, so you are betting ajm for v1,v2,v3 in nba, is that correct?  I wish someone would check to see the past results (wins/loses) with jm's version 3. I've been with jm for 3 -4years now...if I remember right he was adamant about "not" playing games in conference...now all of a sudden he says its ok to do play in conference games.  I think he notices that this year is a fluke and the in conference games are winning so he changed his mind, so I would be very cautious with the v3 plays. Smitler I'll be tailing you, thanks and keep up the good work

     

    No, you gotta remember that JM isn't the originate of any of these systems. He steals almost all of them from Tod at Platinum sports investing. Tod just came out with the (What JM calls V3) and JM quickly marketed it. Remember that Tod recommends the Labouchere method of money management though so this is a case where the system will probably work well for him but not with JM's martingale approach as there are going to be a few more losses. JM has pretty much killed the V1 system by overmarketing it and now the lines are always out of whack against us so hence the new versions.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 5:33 AM ET #317

    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe29:

    Since your betting both sides of AJM and JM for V1 and V2, how many units are you up or down? I feel like catching the middle is hard to do. Am I again misunderstanding your plays? haha. Thanks again.



    You are misunderstanding the plays, you do not have to hit the middle to win. Both JM and AJM are chase-systems, if one of them hits you stop that chase but you continue the other until you win there.

    Look at the chase for Bobcats the other day:

    First game vs Denver you play +8,5 on JM and -5,5 on AJM, that results in a win on AJM and the AJM chase is over.
    The next game against Phoenix you play +8,5 on JM and win and the JM chase is over.

    The problem is when the JM is a winner in all 3 games, which happend several times last season, then AJM will loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe29:

    Since your betting both sides of AJM and JM for V1 and V2, how many units are you up or down? I feel like catching the middle is hard to do. Am I again misunderstanding your plays? haha. Thanks again.



    You are misunderstanding the plays, you do not have to hit the middle to win. Both JM and AJM are chase-systems, if one of them hits you stop that chase but you continue the other until you win there.

    Look at the chase for Bobcats the other day:

    First game vs Denver you play +8,5 on JM and -5,5 on AJM, that results in a win on AJM and the AJM chase is over.
    The next game against Phoenix you play +8,5 on JM and win and the JM chase is over.

    The problem is when the JM is a winner in all 3 games, which happend several times last season, then AJM will loose.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 8:44 AM ET #318

    Thank you very much sahlsa.
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    Thank you very much sahlsa.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 6:57 PM ET #319

    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150                   L by 8
             B-1/29-Heat -2/ML     -135
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110                   W by 8        1-0

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150                   W by 5        1-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120                    L by 5
            B-1/29-Thunder  -2    -110
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    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150                   L by 8
             B-1/29-Heat -2/ML     -135
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110                   W by 8        1-0

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150                   W by 5        1-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120                    L by 5
            B-1/29-Thunder  -2    -110
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2010 - 10:37 AM ET #320

    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150                   L by 8
             B-1/29-Heat -2/ML     -135                  W by 27      2-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110                   W by 8        1-0

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150                   W by 5        1-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120                    L by 5
            B-1/29-Thunder  -2    -110                   W by 16      2-0
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    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/27-Heat +3.5/5.5 -150                   L by 8
             B-1/29-Heat -2/ML     -135                  W by 27      2-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Raptors -3.5   -110                   W by 8        1-0

    JM3:  A-1/27-Nuggets +3/5 -150                   W by 5        1-0
    AJM: A-1/27-Rockets -2     -120                    L by 5
            B-1/29-Thunder  -2    -110                   W by 16      2-0
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2010 - 9:26 PM ET #321

    Smitler...looks like several v3 plays coming up....money mgt critical playing jm and ajm....will be several outstanding plays regardless...lets get em!
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    Smitler...looks like several v3 plays coming up....money mgt critical playing jm and ajm....will be several outstanding plays regardless...lets get em!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2010 - 11:23 PM ET #322

    Good spot to go against the clippers tomorrow...

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    Good spot to go against the clippers tomorrow...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2010 - 4:58 PM ET #323

    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/31-Suns +3.5/+6.5 -170
    AJM: A-1/31-Rockets -3.5/-3   -120

    JM3:  A-1/31-Warriors +8.5/+11.5 -170
    AJM: A-1/31-Thunder -8.5/-8 -120

    Gonna be away from computer for most of the night so I bought the hook on both AJM games at -120 each.
    Version 3 lines have been the same at all of my books.
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    Version 3 Plays
    JM3:  A-1/31-Suns +3.5/+6.5 -170
    AJM: A-1/31-Rockets -3.5/-3   -120

    JM3:  A-1/31-Warriors +8.5/+11.5 -170
    AJM: A-1/31-Thunder -8.5/-8 -120

    Gonna be away from computer for most of the night so I bought the hook on both AJM games at -120 each.
    Version 3 lines have been the same at all of my books.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2010 - 5:45 PM ET #324

    Smitler...where are you getting 3pts. @-170?
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    Smitler...where are you getting 3pts. @-170?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2010 - 8:29 PM ET #325

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