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    smitler
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2010 - 4:12 PM ET #276

    Yes I play both at the same time. I wish I would have laid off the Wizards today since AJM won on 1/21. Should be ok though.
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    Yes I play both at the same time. I wish I would have laid off the Wizards today since AJM won on 1/21. Should be ok though.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2010 - 4:13 PM ET #277

    Thanks for the info.  I'll check those other books out
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    Thanks for the info.  I'll check those other books out
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 12:45 AM ET #278

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:



    JM is 47-3

    AJM record states 55-2


    So smitler, the JM system is 47-3, NOT buying points or buying points? If it is with buying points, then I'm going to backtest without buying points and come back with the results.

    and the AJM system is 55-2 WITHOUT buying points? If so, that's some amazing profit there. Roughly $3000 for the dime bettor. I'm looking to tail these plays too as well as something that's already been in the works since early in the season.

    Let me know! Thanks smit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:



    JM is 47-3

    AJM record states 55-2


    So smitler, the JM system is 47-3, NOT buying points or buying points? If it is with buying points, then I'm going to backtest without buying points and come back with the results.

    and the AJM system is 55-2 WITHOUT buying points? If so, that's some amazing profit there. Roughly $3000 for the dime bettor. I'm looking to tail these plays too as well as something that's already been in the works since early in the season.

    Let me know! Thanks smit.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 8:14 AM ET #279

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Yes I play both at the same time. I wish I would have laid off the Wizards today since AJM won on 1/21. Should be ok though.
    Smitler can you show me how you are betting the Charoltte game today(in $$ Dollar amounts). Buying the 3 points with JM system and then betting and playing your sytem fading JM and betting Denver in $ dollar amounts. Thanks and gl
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Yes I play both at the same time. I wish I would have laid off the Wizards today since AJM won on 1/21. Should be ok though.
    Smitler can you show me how you are betting the Charoltte game today(in $$ Dollar amounts). Buying the 3 points with JM system and then betting and playing your sytem fading JM and betting Denver in $ dollar amounts. Thanks and gl
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 11:12 AM ET #280

    This system is brilliant and thanks for all the hard work Smitler...one question. So you play against the JM play on the 'A' game, and if you win (JM pick oses) then you jump over and play the JM 'B' bet for 2-3 game chase, correct?  If this is the case one could play JM 'A' bet and if it wins jump over and fade the next 2-3 games fading the JM road team, right? Thanks again, Stick.
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    This system is brilliant and thanks for all the hard work Smitler...one question. So you play against the JM play on the 'A' game, and if you win (JM pick oses) then you jump over and play the JM 'B' bet for 2-3 game chase, correct?  If this is the case one could play JM 'A' bet and if it wins jump over and fade the next 2-3 games fading the JM road team, right? Thanks again, Stick.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 11:14 AM ET #281

    Smitler with all do respect buddy. I looked at your system and I did not get what you have. I am showing 9 chase loses going against JM so far. One or two had a push in one of their games, but then they won the remaing games in that series, so that would be considered a loss unless after a push you say stop the series and dont bet it anymore. This is what I show, 9 chase series that the away team won all of the games "ATS" 

    Bos- 'N29 Dec1,3 (Won all 3 ats)

    Phil- Nov 21 ,24,25  (won all 3 ats

    Clev- Nov6,11,12  (won all 3 ats

    atl- nov 1,3,4  (won all 3 ats

    char- Dec30 Jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Was- Dec 14 Push, dec16,dec18  (push 1 game and won 2 ats

    Memphis -Dec 30,jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Portl- Nov10,11,13 (won all 3 ats

    Port- Dec19 Push, dec20,22,23 (Push 1 and won 3 ats

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    Smitler with all do respect buddy. I looked at your system and I did not get what you have. I am showing 9 chase loses going against JM so far. One or two had a push in one of their games, but then they won the remaing games in that series, so that would be considered a loss unless after a push you say stop the series and dont bet it anymore. This is what I show, 9 chase series that the away team won all of the games "ATS" 

    Bos- 'N29 Dec1,3 (Won all 3 ats)

    Phil- Nov 21 ,24,25  (won all 3 ats

    Clev- Nov6,11,12  (won all 3 ats

    atl- nov 1,3,4  (won all 3 ats

    char- Dec30 Jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Was- Dec 14 Push, dec16,dec18  (push 1 game and won 2 ats

    Memphis -Dec 30,jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Portl- Nov10,11,13 (won all 3 ats

    Port- Dec19 Push, dec20,22,23 (Push 1 and won 3 ats

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 11:27 AM ET #282

    i'm fading the bobcats tonight...might be good decision to buy the nuggets down to 3. 
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    i'm fading the bobcats tonight...might be good decision to buy the nuggets down to 3. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 11:32 AM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by JJsLocks:

    i'm fading the bobcats tonight...might be good decision to buy the nuggets down to 3. 
    Im not sure because Carmelo Anthony might not play tonight because of his ankle, he's listed as doubtful for tonights game. I was goint to do what you said, but now with Anthony hurt I dont know what Im gonna do
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJsLocks:

    i'm fading the bobcats tonight...might be good decision to buy the nuggets down to 3. 
    Im not sure because Carmelo Anthony might not play tonight because of his ankle, he's listed as doubtful for tonights game. I was goint to do what you said, but now with Anthony hurt I dont know what Im gonna do
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 2:28 PM ET #284

    Quote Originally Posted by henryk:

    Smitler with all do respect buddy. I looked at your system and I did not get what you have. I am showing 9 chase loses going against JM so far. One or two had a push in one of their games, but then they won the remaing games in that series, so that would be considered a loss unless after a push you say stop the series and dont bet it anymore. This is what I show, 9 chase series that the away team won all of the games "ATS" 

    Bos- 'N29 Dec1,3 (Won all 3 ats)

    Phil- Nov 21 ,24,25  (won all 3 ats

    Clev- Nov6,11,12  (won all 3 ats

    atl- nov 1,3,4  (won all 3 ats

    char- Dec30 Jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Was- Dec 14 Push, dec16,dec18  (push 1 game and won 2 ats

    Memphis -Dec 30,jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Portl- Nov10,11,13 (won all 3 ats

    Port- Dec19 Push, dec20,22,23 (Push 1 and won 3 ats



    You are very confused.
    First thing you need to do is educate yourself.  Please read what the JM systems are all about. Go to post #3, thread titled "Here NBA V2.0", posted by "HotShotPicks"
    Second thing you should do is learn what teams belong to each conference.
    Last, but not least, no malice intended, you should get your head out of your ass.

    Bos- 'N29 Dec1,3 (Won all 3 ats) Not a JM play. 2 of 4 games in same conference.

    Phil- Nov 21 ,24,25  (won all 3 ats  Not a JM play. Games in same conference.

    Clev- Nov6,11,12  (won all 3 ats  Not a JM play. Games in same conference.

    atl- nov 1,3,4  (won all 3 ats  See post #1 herein.

    char- Dec30 Jan2,5  (won all 3 ats Not a JM play. Games in same conference.

    Was- Dec 14 Push, dec16,dec18  (push 1 game and won 2 ats see post #112 and #114 herein.

    Memphis -Dec 30,jan2,5  (won all 3 ats Not a JM play.  3 of 4 games in same conference.

    Portl- Nov10,11,13 (won all 3 ats 11/13 Loss 11/14 Loss  11/16 Win

    Port- Dec19 Push, dec20,22,23 (Push 1 and won 3 ats post #132 herein.


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    Quote Originally Posted by henryk:

    Smitler with all do respect buddy. I looked at your system and I did not get what you have. I am showing 9 chase loses going against JM so far. One or two had a push in one of their games, but then they won the remaing games in that series, so that would be considered a loss unless after a push you say stop the series and dont bet it anymore. This is what I show, 9 chase series that the away team won all of the games "ATS" 

    Bos- 'N29 Dec1,3 (Won all 3 ats)

    Phil- Nov 21 ,24,25  (won all 3 ats

    Clev- Nov6,11,12  (won all 3 ats

    atl- nov 1,3,4  (won all 3 ats

    char- Dec30 Jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Was- Dec 14 Push, dec16,dec18  (push 1 game and won 2 ats

    Memphis -Dec 30,jan2,5  (won all 3 ats

    Portl- Nov10,11,13 (won all 3 ats

    Port- Dec19 Push, dec20,22,23 (Push 1 and won 3 ats



    You are very confused.
    First thing you need to do is educate yourself.  Please read what the JM systems are all about. Go to post #3, thread titled "Here NBA V2.0", posted by "HotShotPicks"
    Second thing you should do is learn what teams belong to each conference.
    Last, but not least, no malice intended, you should get your head out of your ass.

    Bos- 'N29 Dec1,3 (Won all 3 ats) Not a JM play. 2 of 4 games in same conference.

    Phil- Nov 21 ,24,25  (won all 3 ats  Not a JM play. Games in same conference.

    Clev- Nov6,11,12  (won all 3 ats  Not a JM play. Games in same conference.

    atl- nov 1,3,4  (won all 3 ats  See post #1 herein.

    char- Dec30 Jan2,5  (won all 3 ats Not a JM play. Games in same conference.

    Was- Dec 14 Push, dec16,dec18  (push 1 game and won 2 ats see post #112 and #114 herein.

    Memphis -Dec 30,jan2,5  (won all 3 ats Not a JM play.  3 of 4 games in same conference.

    Portl- Nov10,11,13 (won all 3 ats 11/13 Loss 11/14 Loss  11/16 Win

    Port- Dec19 Push, dec20,22,23 (Push 1 and won 3 ats post #132 herein.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 2:46 PM ET #285

    But if you play both the JM and AJM...are you doing them for different games? Or are you playing both the JM and AJM for the same game and hoping to middle? Thanks. Also I would like to know if there are plays for tonight and how you going to be betting. Thanks again Smit.

     

     

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    But if you play both the JM and AJM...are you doing them for different games? Or are you playing both the JM and AJM for the same game and hoping to middle? Thanks. Also I would like to know if there are plays for tonight and how you going to be betting. Thanks again Smit.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 2:56 PM ET #286

    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe29:

    But if you play both the JM and AJM...are you doing them for different games? Or are you playing both the JM and AJM for the same game and hoping to middle? Thanks. Also I would like to know if there are plays for tonight and how you going to be betting. Thanks again Smit.

     

     



    As already mentioned Bobcats to loose is the game for AntiJM tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe29:

    But if you play both the JM and AJM...are you doing them for different games? Or are you playing both the JM and AJM for the same game and hoping to middle? Thanks. Also I would like to know if there are plays for tonight and how you going to be betting. Thanks again Smit.

     

     



    As already mentioned Bobcats to loose is the game for AntiJM tonight.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 3:06 PM ET #287

    Hey guys - so I understand Morrison 3.0 is road team on 3 game road trip vs. teams all in the same conference. From what I am reading it wouldn't be wise to fade this, correct?
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    Hey guys - so I understand Morrison 3.0 is road team on 3 game road trip vs. teams all in the same conference. From what I am reading it wouldn't be wise to fade this, correct?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 3:17 PM ET #288

    Official Records through Jan 24 head to head.
    JM:  50-2
    JM says he hasn't lost any. LIE!, I personally lost 3 (Pistons, Rockets, Nets ) I may have won the Nets A game if I bought 3 points and was lucky enough to get the line at +8.5 so that loss is on me. Fortunately I got my head out of my ass after Nets B game and stopped.

    AJM: 49-2 with a B game pending

    I will track the record as above from now on and separate the optional chases.This should avoid any confusion.

    Remember the AJM system has not been back-tested. It could crash at any time. Be careful.
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    Official Records through Jan 24 head to head.
    JM:  50-2
    JM says he hasn't lost any. LIE!, I personally lost 3 (Pistons, Rockets, Nets ) I may have won the Nets A game if I bought 3 points and was lucky enough to get the line at +8.5 so that loss is on me. Fortunately I got my head out of my ass after Nets B game and stopped.

    AJM: 49-2 with a B game pending

    I will track the record as above from now on and separate the optional chases.This should avoid any confusion.

    Remember the AJM system has not been back-tested. It could crash at any time. Be careful.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 3:25 PM ET #289

    OK here are all of JM NBA V3 plays

    JM V3 is a 3 game road trip with teams all in the same conference.


    JM NBA V3.0

    Jan 27 Miami Heat
    Jan 27 Denver Nuggets
    Jan 31 Golden State Warriors
    Jan 31 Phoenix Suns
    Feb 1 Milwaukee Bucks
    Feb 3 New Jersey Nets
    Feb 3 Miami Heat
    Feb 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Feb 3 San Antonio Spurs
    Feb 8 Dallas Mavericks
    Feb 10 Miami Heat
    Feb 16 Utah Jazz
    Feb 17 Sacramento Kings
    Feb 25 Milwaukee Bucks
    Mar 2 Sacramento Kings
    Mar 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Mar 10 Denver Nuggets
    Mar 12 Los Angeles Lakers
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    Mar 14 New Orleans Hornets
    Mar 18 Orlando Magic
    Mar 19 Charlotte Bobcats
    Mar 22 Miami Heat
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    Apr 1 Portland Trailblazers
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    OK here are all of JM NBA V3 plays

    JM V3 is a 3 game road trip with teams all in the same conference.


    JM NBA V3.0

    Jan 27 Miami Heat
    Jan 27 Denver Nuggets
    Jan 31 Golden State Warriors
    Jan 31 Phoenix Suns
    Feb 1 Milwaukee Bucks
    Feb 3 New Jersey Nets
    Feb 3 Miami Heat
    Feb 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Feb 3 San Antonio Spurs
    Feb 8 Dallas Mavericks
    Feb 10 Miami Heat
    Feb 16 Utah Jazz
    Feb 17 Sacramento Kings
    Feb 25 Milwaukee Bucks
    Mar 2 Sacramento Kings
    Mar 3 Oklahoma City Thunder
    Mar 10 Denver Nuggets
    Mar 12 Los Angeles Lakers
    Mar 14 Minnesota Timberwolves
    Mar 14 New Orleans Hornets
    Mar 18 Orlando Magic
    Mar 19 Charlotte Bobcats
    Mar 22 Miami Heat
    Mar 24 Los Angeles Lakers
    Apr 1 Portland Trailblazers
    Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
    Apr 7 Utah Jazz
    Apr 9 Dallas Mavericks
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 3:34 PM ET #290

    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    Hey guys - so I understand Morrison 3.0 is road team on 3 game road trip vs. teams all in the same conference. From what I am reading it wouldn't be wise to fade this, correct?

    tonights game is vs. 3 in opp. conference, but i am going with the opposite...bobcats have just 3 wins on the road, i would rather have my money on them to lose one of three ats than win ats.  with anothy hurt, i am going to just play it w/out points...just too much uncertain to spend the extra money...because the injury could have denver that messed up where they lose su.

    i've never played them both...just too much, the middle will rarely hit anyways....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    Hey guys - so I understand Morrison 3.0 is road team on 3 game road trip vs. teams all in the same conference. From what I am reading it wouldn't be wise to fade this, correct?

    tonights game is vs. 3 in opp. conference, but i am going with the opposite...bobcats have just 3 wins on the road, i would rather have my money on them to lose one of three ats than win ats.  with anothy hurt, i am going to just play it w/out points...just too much uncertain to spend the extra money...because the injury could have denver that messed up where they lose su.

    i've never played them both...just too much, the middle will rarely hit anyways....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2010 - 5:52 PM ET #291

    I will eventually summarize all plays and verify records, but for now this is what's in play.

    JM1: B&A-1/24-Clippers +2.5/5.5 -170 Betus        W by 14      50-2
            JM got a double win here, for version 2 it was a B game and for version 1 it was an A game.
    AJM: A2-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                           L by 14
            This was an A game for version 1 since the version 2 A game won on 1/21.
            B2-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110


    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves
    AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7         -110 Betus         W by 33   50-2


    JM1: A-1/25-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -155 5Dimes         $31 to win $20
    Remember JM says buy 3, but at -200 I'm only buying 2.
    AJM: A-1/25-Nuggets -5 -110 Betus                     $22 to win $20

    To avoid confusion I won't list the optional plays and results until I go through all the data.
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    I will eventually summarize all plays and verify records, but for now this is what's in play.

    JM1: B&A-1/24-Clippers +2.5/5.5 -170 Betus        W by 14      50-2
            JM got a double win here, for version 2 it was a B game and for version 1 it was an A game.
    AJM: A2-1/24-Wizards  -2 -110                           L by 14
            This was an A game for version 1 since the version 2 A game won on 1/21.
            B2-1/25-Celtics -11.5 -110


    JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7/10  -170 Betus          L by 33
            B-1/26-Wolves
    AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7         -110 Betus         W by 33   50-2


    JM1: A-1/25-Bobcats +5.5/7.5 -155 5Dimes         $31 to win $20
    Remember JM says buy 3, but at -200 I'm only buying 2.
    AJM: A-1/25-Nuggets -5 -110 Betus                     $22 to win $20

    To avoid confusion I won't list the optional plays and results until I go through all the data.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 12:28 PM ET #292

    Just signed up for a 5Dimes account and the Juice for same line is higher.

    5 Dimes has Twolves +6.5. Buy 3 to +9.5 is -200
    Betus has Twolves +6. Buy 3.5 to +9.5 is -195

    What a rip-off.
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    Just signed up for a 5Dimes account and the Juice for same line is higher.

    5 Dimes has Twolves +6.5. Buy 3 to +9.5 is -200
    Betus has Twolves +6. Buy 3.5 to +9.5 is -195

    What a rip-off.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET #293

    so I take it thats a JM play?

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    so I take it thats a JM play?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 12:42 PM ET #294

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Just signed up for a 5Dimes account and the Juice for same line is higher.

    5 Dimes has Twolves +6.5. Buy 3 to +9.5 is -200
    Betus has Twolves +6. Buy 3.5 to +9.5 is -195

    What a rip-off.
    smitler this will help you, if you use linesmaker they have it at -170 buying the 3 points.   I have a question are you going to bet Charlette as a jm (B)play since they lost the "A" bet as a jm play? Now they did win as an anti JM play as an "A" bet. thnaks and gl
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Just signed up for a 5Dimes account and the Juice for same line is higher.

    5 Dimes has Twolves +6.5. Buy 3 to +9.5 is -200
    Betus has Twolves +6. Buy 3.5 to +9.5 is -195

    What a rip-off.
    smitler this will help you, if you use linesmaker they have it at -170 buying the 3 points.   I have a question are you going to bet Charlette as a jm (B)play since they lost the "A" bet as a jm play? Now they did win as an anti JM play as an "A" bet. thnaks and gl
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 12:50 PM ET #295

    Thanks ketut. I will check LM out.

    I will play Charlotte as a JM B game but waiting for line to move.

    AJM A game won last night so that chase is over.
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    Thanks ketut. I will check LM out.

    I will play Charlotte as a JM B game but waiting for line to move.

    AJM A game won last night so that chase is over.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 12:53 PM ET #296

    Yes Tahoe29, Twolves B game tonight.
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    Yes Tahoe29, Twolves B game tonight.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 4:14 PM ET #297

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Yes I play both at the same time. I wish I would have laid off the Wizards today since AJM won on 1/21. Should be ok though.

     

    this is great stuff, been watching for a while...

    do you play both sides of the same game at the same book? i was told you can get limited or banned making these kinds of bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Yes I play both at the same time. I wish I would have laid off the Wizards today since AJM won on 1/21. Should be ok though.

     

    this is great stuff, been watching for a while...

    do you play both sides of the same game at the same book? i was told you can get limited or banned making these kinds of bets.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 4:44 PM ET #298

    I can only buy one point for Twolves and the Charlotte games. I know your suppose to buy three for more insurance but since that three points has played a factor only in a few games, do you think it's fine to play them both with buying one point? Thanks.
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    I can only buy one point for Twolves and the Charlotte games. I know your suppose to buy three for more insurance but since that three points has played a factor only in a few games, do you think it's fine to play them both with buying one point? Thanks.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 4:49 PM ET #299

    Tahoe

    Sometimes with a 2 gamer like this
    I just do a teaser with both!

    Has worked !

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    Tahoe

    Sometimes with a 2 gamer like this
    I just do a teaser with both!

    Has worked !

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 4:53 PM ET #300

    Why only 1 point? What book is that?
    Get a different one.
    Can't answer your question without going back through the thread if buying 1 point versus 2 or 3 made any difference but you can if you want to. All the info should be there.
    I am working on a spreadsheet that will have all of this seasons data including game totals for the JM/AJM games.  I hope to have it done in a week then I will be able to quickly answer that question among others.
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    Why only 1 point? What book is that?
    Get a different one.
    Can't answer your question without going back through the thread if buying 1 point versus 2 or 3 made any difference but you can if you want to. All the info should be there.
    I am working on a spreadsheet that will have all of this seasons data including game totals for the JM/AJM games.  I hope to have it done in a week then I will be able to quickly answer that question among others.
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