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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2010 - 7:11 PM ET #576

    Quote Originally Posted by movado12080:

    sorry if this has already been asked, but is AJM version 3 a play? (lakers tnite)

    i know its up to me to play it if i want, just wondering if you guys do..

    thanks



    I do believe you would get the official email from JM stating memphis is his V3 play.  I only get V1 emails so can't be 100% sure.  I'm playing it the usual both ways.
    V3 JM record was 26-2 so its not as reliable as V1 and V2.  You will need good money management to turn a profit at 26-2.  AJM V3 record was so bad I stopped playing it last year.
    I may go back and see what the AJM record would have been if I kept playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by movado12080:

    sorry if this has already been asked, but is AJM version 3 a play? (lakers tnite)

    i know its up to me to play it if i want, just wondering if you guys do..

    thanks



    I do believe you would get the official email from JM stating memphis is his V3 play.  I only get V1 emails so can't be 100% sure.  I'm playing it the usual both ways.
    V3 JM record was 26-2 so its not as reliable as V1 and V2.  You will need good money management to turn a profit at 26-2.  AJM V3 record was so bad I stopped playing it last year.
    I may go back and see what the AJM record would have been if I kept playing it.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2010 - 9:55 PM ET #577

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:



    I do believe you would get the official email from JM stating memphis is his V3 play.  I only get V1 emails so can't be 100% sure.  I'm playing it the usual both ways.
    V3 JM record was 26-2 so its not as reliable as V1 and V2.  You will need good money management to turn a profit at 26-2.  AJM V3 record was so bad I stopped playing it last year.
    I may go back and see what the AJM record would have been if I kept playing it.

    that would be awesome and very helpful! how do you get emails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:



    I do believe you would get the official email from JM stating memphis is his V3 play.  I only get V1 emails so can't be 100% sure.  I'm playing it the usual both ways.
    V3 JM record was 26-2 so its not as reliable as V1 and V2.  You will need good money management to turn a profit at 26-2.  AJM V3 record was so bad I stopped playing it last year.
    I may go back and see what the AJM record would have been if I kept playing it.

    that would be awesome and very helpful! how do you get emails?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2010 - 11:17 PM ET #578

    Quote Originally Posted by movado12080:

    that would be awesome and very helpful! how do you get emails?



    You have to buy his system.  I bought it when he only had Version 1.
    Then of course he wanted me to buy 2 and 3, but then I found covers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by movado12080:

    that would be awesome and very helpful! how do you get emails?



    You have to buy his system.  I bought it when he only had Version 1.
    Then of course he wanted me to buy 2 and 3, but then I found covers.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2010 - 12:04 AM ET #579

    ALL AJM V3 PLAYERS RUN FOR Z HILLS!
    LOOKED BACK AT THE RECORD AND IT WAS 20-9. THREE OF THOSE BEING 4 GAME BEAT DOWNS.

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    JM NBA V3.0

    Jan 27 Miami Heat                             1-0
    Jan 27 Denver Nuggets                       2-0
    Jan 31 Golden State Warriors             3-0
    Jan 31 Phoenix Suns                         4-0
    Feb 1 Milwaukee Bucks                      5-0
    Feb 3 New Jersey Nets                       6-0
    Feb 3 Miami Heat                               7-0
    Feb 3 Oklahoma City Thunder              8-0
    Feb 3 San Antonio Spurs                     9-0
    Feb 8 Dallas Mavericks                       10-0
    Feb 10 Miami Heat                              11-0
    Feb 16 Utah Jazz                                  12-0
    Feb 17 Sacramento Kings                  12-1
    Feb 25 Milwaukee Bucks                     13-1
    Mar 2 Sacramento Kings                      14-1
    Mar 3 Oklahoma City Thunder              15-1
    Mar 10 Denver Nuggets                         16-1
    Mar 12 Los Angeles Lakers                   17-1
    Mar 14 Minnesota Timberwolves           17-2
    Mar 14 New Orleans Hornets                 18-2
    Mar 18 Orlando Magic                               19-2
    Mar 19 Charlotte Bobcats                          20-2
    Mar 22 Miami Heat                                      21-2
    Mar 24 Los Angeles Lakers                      22-2
    Apr 1 Portland Trailblazers                        23-2
    Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs                           24-2
    Apr 7 Utah Jazz                                             25-2
    Apr 9 Dallas Mavericks                               26-2
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    ALL AJM V3 PLAYERS RUN FOR Z HILLS!
    LOOKED BACK AT THE RECORD AND IT WAS 20-9. THREE OF THOSE BEING 4 GAME BEAT DOWNS.

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    JM NBA V3.0

    Jan 27 Miami Heat                             1-0
    Jan 27 Denver Nuggets                       2-0
    Jan 31 Golden State Warriors             3-0
    Jan 31 Phoenix Suns                         4-0
    Feb 1 Milwaukee Bucks                      5-0
    Feb 3 New Jersey Nets                       6-0
    Feb 3 Miami Heat                               7-0
    Feb 3 Oklahoma City Thunder              8-0
    Feb 3 San Antonio Spurs                     9-0
    Feb 8 Dallas Mavericks                       10-0
    Feb 10 Miami Heat                              11-0
    Feb 16 Utah Jazz                                  12-0
    Feb 17 Sacramento Kings                  12-1
    Feb 25 Milwaukee Bucks                     13-1
    Mar 2 Sacramento Kings                      14-1
    Mar 3 Oklahoma City Thunder              15-1
    Mar 10 Denver Nuggets                         16-1
    Mar 12 Los Angeles Lakers                   17-1
    Mar 14 Minnesota Timberwolves           17-2
    Mar 14 New Orleans Hornets                 18-2
    Mar 18 Orlando Magic                               19-2
    Mar 19 Charlotte Bobcats                          20-2
    Mar 22 Miami Heat                                      21-2
    Mar 24 Los Angeles Lakers                      22-2
    Apr 1 Portland Trailblazers                        23-2
    Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs                           24-2
    Apr 7 Utah Jazz                                             25-2
    Apr 9 Dallas Mavericks                               26-2
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2010 - 11:25 PM ET #580

    curious if anyone has ever tried an ANTI JM NHL system....essentially fading a team going on a 3 game road trip?
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    curious if anyone has ever tried an ANTI JM NHL system....essentially fading a team going on a 3 game road trip?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2010 - 12:24 AM ET #581

    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    curious if anyone has ever tried an ANTI JM NHL system....essentially fading a team going on a 3 game road trip?


    I play all things JM: "Anti"
    Played it last year, but would have to look back to see how it did.
    Not playing it this year so it must not have been that remarkable.  I like my own system better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    curious if anyone has ever tried an ANTI JM NHL system....essentially fading a team going on a 3 game road trip?


    I play all things JM: "Anti"
    Played it last year, but would have to look back to see how it did.
    Not playing it this year so it must not have been that remarkable.  I like my own system better.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2010 - 3:01 PM ET #582

    Hey smitler are u playing this system again this year??? i'm gonna try it out with the labby system only for v1 and v2.........

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    Hey smitler are u playing this system again this year??? i'm gonna try it out with the labby system only for v1 and v2.........

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2010 - 4:18 PM ET #583

    Yes I'm playing it both ways and will probably spot play a few V3 plays.
    I do it a little differently though.  I almost always use betus for AJM and another book for JM and only buy 2 points at -150.
    Betus is usually 1/2 point or more higher for JM lines than other books.
    For example, its like getting the AJM play at -5 -110 and the JM play at +7.5 -150 (buying 2 points with a 1/2 point difference between books).
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    Yes I'm playing it both ways and will probably spot play a few V3 plays.
    I do it a little differently though.  I almost always use betus for AJM and another book for JM and only buy 2 points at -150.
    Betus is usually 1/2 point or more higher for JM lines than other books.
    For example, its like getting the AJM play at -5 -110 and the JM play at +7.5 -150 (buying 2 points with a 1/2 point difference between books).
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2010 - 7:08 PM ET #584

    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Yes I'm playing it both ways and will probably spot play a few V3 plays.
    I do it a little differently though.  I almost always use betus for AJM and another book for JM and only buy 2 points at -150.
    Betus is usually 1/2 point or more higher for JM lines than other books.
    For example, its like getting the AJM play at -5 -110 and the JM play at +7.5 -150 (buying 2 points with a 1/2 point difference between books).
    sure wish you would track plays like last year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitler:

    Yes I'm playing it both ways and will probably spot play a few V3 plays.
    I do it a little differently though.  I almost always use betus for AJM and another book for JM and only buy 2 points at -150.
    Betus is usually 1/2 point or more higher for JM lines than other books.
    For example, its like getting the AJM play at -5 -110 and the JM play at +7.5 -150 (buying 2 points with a 1/2 point difference between books).
    sure wish you would track plays like last year!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:02 AM ET #585

    AJM should be a nice one with the LAC

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    AJM should be a nice one with the LAC

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 8:25 PM ET #586

    with AntiJM v1 and 2  a play is when the opposite team is playing at home or it doesn't matter?
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    with AntiJM v1 and 2  a play is when the opposite team is playing at home or it doesn't matter?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 8:54 PM ET #587

    no you fading the team you would normally chase.
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    no you fading the team you would normally chase.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 9:32 PM ET #588

    Quote Originally Posted by JJsLocks:

    no you fading the team you would normally chase.


    Following  every game for v1 and v2 wouldn't that give us more than 100 series so i dont understand why smitler record for last year is 80-2..
    Am i missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJsLocks:

    no you fading the team you would normally chase.


    Following  every game for v1 and v2 wouldn't that give us more than 100 series so i dont understand why smitler record for last year is 80-2..
    Am i missing something?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 7:17 PM ET #589

    how would you set up the labby line for the system(s)?  sorry if that is a stupid question.  thanks.
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    how would you set up the labby line for the system(s)?  sorry if that is a stupid question.  thanks.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 10:45 PM ET #590

    can anyone help and just go over system and what to fade & whats v1 v2? or where to go to get this system thanks
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    can anyone help and just go over system and what to fade & whats v1 v2? or where to go to get this system thanks
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 10:48 PM ET #591

    Well most of us lost the B on Chicago because of a final second shot and now we have to go to a C for Anti-JM NBA.Those of us who got the line for Chicago at -2, is a push considered a win and we stop the chase? or do we chase the C game?
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    Well most of us lost the B on Chicago because of a final second shot and now we have to go to a C for Anti-JM NBA.Those of us who got the line for Chicago at -2, is a push considered a win and we stop the chase? or do we chase the C game?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 1:18 AM ET #592

    Am I the only one really worried about potentially getting crushed here? Playing V1, V2, and V3 there are currently 4 pending C-bets.Cleveland (V3), LA Clippers (V3), Denver (V2), and Boston (V2) are a combined 8-0 ATS on their trips.

    Tonight had Bulls -3 and Mavs -3, each one point losses. I understand these things happen with chase systems and there will be losses, but this is ridiculous.

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    Am I the only one really worried about potentially getting crushed here? Playing V1, V2, and V3 there are currently 4 pending C-bets.Cleveland (V3), LA Clippers (V3), Denver (V2), and Boston (V2) are a combined 8-0 ATS on their trips.

    Tonight had Bulls -3 and Mavs -3, each one point losses. I understand these things happen with chase systems and there will be losses, but this is ridiculous.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 1:41 AM ET #593

    Options are to tease and/or parlay all three in addition to playing each small or in lieu thereof.
    There are many options. I see it as an opportunity.

    Although I haven't done this across versions before I will parlay and maybe tease these 3 C bets tomorrow and play just a little (if any) on each straight up.
    It's early in the season and I don't think all three will hit so save your money to fight another day.  But just in case all three do hit that parlay saved your ass.

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    Options are to tease and/or parlay all three in addition to playing each small or in lieu thereof.
    There are many options. I see it as an opportunity.

    Although I haven't done this across versions before I will parlay and maybe tease these 3 C bets tomorrow and play just a little (if any) on each straight up.
    It's early in the season and I don't think all three will hit so save your money to fight another day.  But just in case all three do hit that parlay saved your ass.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 7:39 AM ET #594

    Anti JM version 3 and 4 didn't do very well last year.  Version 1 and 2 were the ones that went 80-2 or whatever.  Be careful with the Cleveland and LAC bets.  I'm sure at least one of the Boston/Chicago bets will cover though, if not both.

    NASTY loss on the Chicago game last night.  Absolutely fucking ridiculous

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    Anti JM version 3 and 4 didn't do very well last year.  Version 1 and 2 were the ones that went 80-2 or whatever.  Be careful with the Cleveland and LAC bets.  I'm sure at least one of the Boston/Chicago bets will cover though, if not both.

    NASTY loss on the Chicago game last night.  Absolutely fucking ridiculous

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert9756:

    Well most of us lost the B on Chicago because of a final second shot and now we have to go to a C for Anti-JM NBA.Those of us who got the line for Chicago at -2, is a push considered a win and we stop the chase? or do we chase the C game?


    It is never smart to play a chase after a push...this system is based on probability and if you pushed or lost by a few points....that game more than likely should have been your hit...

    I think Smitler's recommendation of putting a small play on the Pacers is the safest play...This is a pick em, never the best case scenario in a game 3 bet....'live to fight another day'.

    I am not playing Anti JM on the V3 because of its track record...so no advice there....I could see the Nets winning, leaning them on a straight play.

    What scares me is the TWolves.........just one cover all season and they have the Lakers.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert9756:

    Well most of us lost the B on Chicago because of a final second shot and now we have to go to a C for Anti-JM NBA.Those of us who got the line for Chicago at -2, is a push considered a win and we stop the chase? or do we chase the C game?


    It is never smart to play a chase after a push...this system is based on probability and if you pushed or lost by a few points....that game more than likely should have been your hit...

    I think Smitler's recommendation of putting a small play on the Pacers is the safest play...This is a pick em, never the best case scenario in a game 3 bet....'live to fight another day'.

    I am not playing Anti JM on the V3 because of its track record...so no advice there....I could see the Nets winning, leaning them on a straight play.

    What scares me is the TWolves.........just one cover all season and they have the Lakers.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 12:21 PM ET #596

    Also, not sure if you guys discussed but '1 unit' should be 5-10% of your bankroll at a maximum.....this will help avoid getting crushed and in situations of early season losses...Labourchere should be even more conservative.
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    Also, not sure if you guys discussed but '1 unit' should be 5-10% of your bankroll at a maximum.....this will help avoid getting crushed and in situations of early season losses...Labourchere should be even more conservative.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 1:13 PM ET #597

    Smither, Smdio, JJ     Thanks for the advice

    This season is my first playing an NBA Chase system, so naturally getting a little frustrated. Started playing JM but wasn't comfortable laying so much juice buying 3 pts every game.

    Switched to A-JM and plays are 2-8 so far, but the season is young. I will continue to play V1 and V2, but will tread lightly with V3 and decide whether to play or pass on a case by case basis depending on the teams. The big picture in the NBA should be much clearer in a month or so.

    I see 2 new A-JM V1 chases tonight. UTA @MIA and DET @POR

    As for the 4 C-bets I will wait and see what the spreads are at closer to gametime. Currently there has been line movement towards the road team in all 6 system games tonight.

    I will likely tease as well given there have been so many 1-2 pt losses.

    BOL everyone  let's try to recoup some losses tonight

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    Smither, Smdio, JJ     Thanks for the advice

    This season is my first playing an NBA Chase system, so naturally getting a little frustrated. Started playing JM but wasn't comfortable laying so much juice buying 3 pts every game.

    Switched to A-JM and plays are 2-8 so far, but the season is young. I will continue to play V1 and V2, but will tread lightly with V3 and decide whether to play or pass on a case by case basis depending on the teams. The big picture in the NBA should be much clearer in a month or so.

    I see 2 new A-JM V1 chases tonight. UTA @MIA and DET @POR

    As for the 4 C-bets I will wait and see what the spreads are at closer to gametime. Currently there has been line movement towards the road team in all 6 system games tonight.

    I will likely tease as well given there have been so many 1-2 pt losses.

    BOL everyone  let's try to recoup some losses tonight

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 1:20 PM ET #598

    Make that 3 c-bets tonight. BOS @MIA 11/11 is the 4th pending

    Also JJ MIN already lost ATS @HOU so I don't believe they are a play tonight

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    Make that 3 c-bets tonight. BOS @MIA 11/11 is the 4th pending

    Also JJ MIN already lost ATS @HOU so I don't believe they are a play tonight

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashColt:

    Make that 3 c-bets tonight. BOS @MIA 11/11 is the 4th pending

    Also JJ MIN already lost ATS @HOU so I don't believe they are a play tonight

    I am play JM v3 and not AJM v3.....so the Twolves would be the chase....is that not correct????

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashColt:

    Make that 3 c-bets tonight. BOS @MIA 11/11 is the 4th pending

    Also JJ MIN already lost ATS @HOU so I don't believe they are a play tonight

    I am play JM v3 and not AJM v3.....so the Twolves would be the chase....is that not correct????

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 10:08 AM ET #600

    Cs went 2-1 + 5pt teaser - 3tp parlay got a good portion of that lost $ back without risking a shit load.

    Those are behind us and we live to fight another day.
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    Cs went 2-1 + 5pt teaser - 3tp parlay got a good portion of that lost $ back without risking a shit load.

    Those are behind us and we live to fight another day.
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