Anti-JM NBA Thread
your 76ers play was an L but wasn't included in the optional chase record. Is there a reason for that?
its a 3-Game Chase, a L is only counted if it loses 3 Games.
your 76ers play was an L but wasn't included in the optional chase record. Is there a reason for that?
its a 3-Game Chase, a L is only counted if it loses 3 Games.
Why is the Nets chase stopped?
i don't know who makes the calls on the series but i faded the nets lastnight because they are the NETS....those are the type of teams you do not bet on with this system
i have stuck with 'the strategy' and have had two losers this season and am now fading with the home team when the road dawg is in the bottom 5-10 in overall standings
Why is the Nets chase stopped?
i don't know who makes the calls on the series but i faded the nets lastnight because they are the NETS....those are the type of teams you do not bet on with this system
i have stuck with 'the strategy' and have had two losers this season and am now fading with the home team when the road dawg is in the bottom 5-10 in overall standings
the system will fail every once in a while, but if you are not buying points that may make the system fail more often, if you are buying the points then the system will fail less but when it does fail it will wipe you out pretty good if you go all 3.
i stick to the calendar but use my own discresion, i try not to buy points to lower the risk...but i sometimes buy them to get favorite to - 2 or 3 or a dawg up to 6 or 7.....i fade the teams that suck...most of time the sucky teams cover but the goal of this strategy is to not loss any of your series...
the system will fail every once in a while, but if you are not buying points that may make the system fail more often, if you are buying the points then the system will fail less but when it does fail it will wipe you out pretty good if you go all 3.
i stick to the calendar but use my own discresion, i try not to buy points to lower the risk...but i sometimes buy them to get favorite to - 2 or 3 or a dawg up to 6 or 7.....i fade the teams that suck...most of time the sucky teams cover but the goal of this strategy is to not loss any of your series...
your 76ers play was an L but wasn't included in the optional chase record. Is there a reason for that?
I forgot to update it.
AJM: A 1/20 76ers +2 -120 betus L by 8 (score 98-90)
B 1/22 Celtics
The Nets are just horrible and they are 33% ats on the road. I already lost the A and B bet and am gonna cut bait.
your 76ers play was an L but wasn't included in the optional chase record. Is there a reason for that?
I forgot to update it.
AJM: A 1/20 76ers +2 -120 betus L by 8 (score 98-90)
B 1/22 Celtics
The Nets are just horrible and they are 33% ats on the road. I already lost the A and B bet and am gonna cut bait.
OK seriously when its close JM always says he won and for the poor souls who pushed or lost to continue with chase.
OK seriously when its close JM always says he won and for the poor souls who pushed or lost to continue with chase.
EM to JM 1/22/10
Dear Genius
LAL was never "bettable" @ 3 1/2. Will you ever "man up"???????? Show me your bet ticket @ 3 1/2 and I'll forever hold my tongue!!
John
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> John,
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> Depending on the spread you had on the Lakers, you could have won
> or pushed on your wager. Although the series is now closed at the
> +3.5 spread, you do have the option of remaking the [A] bet on
> their game vs. New York today and continue the series if you wish.
Any ideas on his new V3 version????????
EM to JM 1/22/10
Dear Genius
LAL was never "bettable" @ 3 1/2. Will you ever "man up"???????? Show me your bet ticket @ 3 1/2 and I'll forever hold my tongue!!
John
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> John,
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> Depending on the spread you had on the Lakers, you could have won
> or pushed on your wager. Although the series is now closed at the
> +3.5 spread, you do have the option of remaking the [A] bet on
> their game vs. New York today and continue the series if you wish.
Any ideas on his new V3 version????????
stay away from pushes for the most part...but i think with the lakers facing three easy opp i would continue to ride them.
I had the lakers at 3.5...what is the issue? should have bought them to 6, whenever i play a dawg in this strategy i try and get them at 6 or higher. regardless keep betting the lakers...
nets should have never been a play....why chase the nets? that is a good spot for a fade........good teams you chase and really bad teams you fade
i've been perfect so far in the new year with one loser on the strategy with the pistons back in november i think.
stay away from pushes for the most part...but i think with the lakers facing three easy opp i would continue to ride them.
I had the lakers at 3.5...what is the issue? should have bought them to 6, whenever i play a dawg in this strategy i try and get them at 6 or higher. regardless keep betting the lakers...
nets should have never been a play....why chase the nets? that is a good spot for a fade........good teams you chase and really bad teams you fade
i've been perfect so far in the new year with one loser on the strategy with the pistons back in november i think.
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
JM1: A 1/18 Nets +10 to +11.5 L by 11
B 1/20 Nets +12.5/14.5 -150 BM L by 24 chase stopped
C 1/22 Nets +7.5 I consider JM A win if u bought 3. I am not playing it.
JM1: A 1/18 Bulls up to +3 L by 17
B 1/20 Bulls +3.5/5.5 -150 BM L by 7 (score 104-97)
C 1/22 Bulls +6/+9 -170 Betus
Optional THIRD chase 5 road games left
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
(A3 means 3rd chase fading bulls on the road)
JM1: A 1/21 Lakers +3.5/+5.5 -150 BookMaker L by 6
B 1/22 Lakers -5.5/-3.5 -150 BookMaker
AJM: A 1/21 Cavs -3.5/-3 -120 BookMaker W by 6 53-2
Optional 2nd chase Lakers have 7 road games left
JM1: Not Applicable
AJM: A 1/22 Knicks +6 May not play since LA playing bad teams
JM1: A 1/21 Clippers +10/+12 -150 BookMaker L by 20
B 1/24 Clippers +2 opening line
AJM: A 1/21 Nuggets -10 -110 BookMaker W by 20 54-2
Optional 2nd chase Clippers have 7 road games left
JM1: Not Applicable
AJM-A2-1/24-Wizards-2 opening line
Observations: When the season started JM was wining many of the A games and AJM struggled. I stated that this couldn't last.
Recently the opposite has happened and AJM is kicking ass.
Although it would be nice for this trend to continue, I expect it to come full circle.
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
JM1: A 1/18 Nets +10 to +11.5 L by 11
B 1/20 Nets +12.5/14.5 -150 BM L by 24 chase stopped
C 1/22 Nets +7.5 I consider JM A win if u bought 3. I am not playing it.
JM1: A 1/18 Bulls up to +3 L by 17
B 1/20 Bulls +3.5/5.5 -150 BM L by 7 (score 104-97)
C 1/22 Bulls +6/+9 -170 Betus
Optional THIRD chase 5 road games left
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
(A3 means 3rd chase fading bulls on the road)
JM1: A 1/21 Lakers +3.5/+5.5 -150 BookMaker L by 6
B 1/22 Lakers -5.5/-3.5 -150 BookMaker
AJM: A 1/21 Cavs -3.5/-3 -120 BookMaker W by 6 53-2
Optional 2nd chase Lakers have 7 road games left
JM1: Not Applicable
AJM: A 1/22 Knicks +6 May not play since LA playing bad teams
JM1: A 1/21 Clippers +10/+12 -150 BookMaker L by 20
B 1/24 Clippers +2 opening line
AJM: A 1/21 Nuggets -10 -110 BookMaker W by 20 54-2
Optional 2nd chase Clippers have 7 road games left
JM1: Not Applicable
AJM-A2-1/24-Wizards-2 opening line
Observations: When the season started JM was wining many of the A games and AJM struggled. I stated that this couldn't last.
Recently the opposite has happened and AJM is kicking ass.
Although it would be nice for this trend to continue, I expect it to come full circle.
stay away from pushes for the most part...but i think with the lakers facing three easy opp i would continue to ride them.
I had the lakers at 3.5...what is the issue? should have bought them to 6, whenever i play a dawg in this strategy i try and get them at 6 or higher. regardless keep betting the lakers...
nets should have never been a play....why chase the nets? that is a good spot for a fade........good teams you chase and really bad teams you fade
i've been perfect so far in the new year with one loser on the strategy with the pistons back in november i think.
You didn't get that line at Betus and they are the only book I know where you can buy 3.
What book do you use?
stay away from pushes for the most part...but i think with the lakers facing three easy opp i would continue to ride them.
I had the lakers at 3.5...what is the issue? should have bought them to 6, whenever i play a dawg in this strategy i try and get them at 6 or higher. regardless keep betting the lakers...
nets should have never been a play....why chase the nets? that is a good spot for a fade........good teams you chase and really bad teams you fade
i've been perfect so far in the new year with one loser on the strategy with the pistons back in november i think.
You didn't get that line at Betus and they are the only book I know where you can buy 3.
What book do you use?
B 1/20 Nets +12.5/14.5 -150 BM L by 24 chase stopped
C 1/22 Nets +7.5/+31 L by 32
JM Won on A if you got it at 8.5 and bought 3 so record is 46-2
JM1: A 1/18 Bulls up to +3 L by 17
B 1/20 Bulls +3.5/5.5 -150 BM L by 7 (score 104-97)
C 1/22 Bulls +6/+9 -170 Betus W by 11 47-2
JM1: A 1/21 Lakers +3.5/+5.5 -150 BookMaker L by 6
B 1/22 Lakers -5.5/-3.5 -150 BookMaker W by 10 48-2
B 1/20 Nets +12.5/14.5 -150 BM L by 24 chase stopped
C 1/22 Nets +7.5/+31 L by 32
JM Won on A if you got it at 8.5 and bought 3 so record is 46-2
JM1: A 1/18 Bulls up to +3 L by 17
B 1/20 Bulls +3.5/5.5 -150 BM L by 7 (score 104-97)
C 1/22 Bulls +6/+9 -170 Betus W by 11 47-2
JM1: A 1/21 Lakers +3.5/+5.5 -150 BookMaker L by 6
B 1/22 Lakers -5.5/-3.5 -150 BookMaker W by 10 48-2
AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7 -120-Betus
Optional second chase 3 extra road games
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
C 1/23 Blazers @ Pistons -3 -110
Optional THIRD chase 4 road games left A3= 3rd chase fading Bulls
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
B3 1/23 Bulls @ Rockets -6 -110
AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7 -120-Betus
Optional second chase 3 extra road games
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
C 1/23 Blazers @ Pistons -3 -110
Optional THIRD chase 4 road games left A3= 3rd chase fading Bulls
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
B3 1/23 Bulls @ Rockets -6 -110
B-1/26-Wolves at Knicks
AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7 -120-Betus W by 33 55-2
JM1: B/A-Clippers +2.5/5.5 -170 Betus (JM says its an A game)
AJM: A2- Wizards -2 -110
Optional second chase 3 extra road games
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
C 1/23 Blazers @ Pistons -3 -110 Lost chase. 6-1
Optional THIRD chase 4 road games left A3= 3rd chase fading Bulls
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
B3 1/23 Bulls @ Rockets -6 -110
C3 1/25 Bulls @ Spurs
B-1/26-Wolves at Knicks
AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7 -120-Betus W by 33 55-2
JM1: B/A-Clippers +2.5/5.5 -170 Betus (JM says its an A game)
AJM: A2- Wizards -2 -110
Optional second chase 3 extra road games
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
C 1/23 Blazers @ Pistons -3 -110 Lost chase. 6-1
Optional THIRD chase 4 road games left A3= 3rd chase fading Bulls
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
B3 1/23 Bulls @ Rockets -6 -110
C3 1/25 Bulls @ Spurs
Real simple. Play the opposite of JM (home team) ATS and don't buy any points.
YTD: 3-0 with Raptors series going to B
11/1
JM A Hawks +11 Win
AJM A Lakers -6.5 Win
11/3
JM A Nuggets -1.5 Win
AJM A Pacers +6 Loss, 11/4-B Nets +9 Loss, 11/6-C Heat pk Win
11/3
JM A Suns +6 Win
AJM A Heat -3.5 Loss, 11/4-B Magic -8 Win
11/6
JM A Raptors +7 Win
AJM A Hornets -4 Loss
I try to wait for line movement so that's why the lines don't match.
Did a little unofficial tracking last year and it seemed promising, but no data gathered.
This system did go 11-0 in WNBA this past year.
Next Play: Raptors at Mavs 11/7
Real simple. Play the opposite of JM (home team) ATS and don't buy any points.
YTD: 3-0 with Raptors series going to B
11/1
JM A Hawks +11 Win
AJM A Lakers -6.5 Win
11/3
JM A Nuggets -1.5 Win
AJM A Pacers +6 Loss, 11/4-B Nets +9 Loss, 11/6-C Heat pk Win
11/3
JM A Suns +6 Win
AJM A Heat -3.5 Loss, 11/4-B Magic -8 Win
11/6
JM A Raptors +7 Win
AJM A Hornets -4 Loss
I try to wait for line movement so that's why the lines don't match.
Did a little unofficial tracking last year and it seemed promising, but no data gathered.
This system did go 11-0 in WNBA this past year.
Next Play: Raptors at Mavs 11/7
JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7.5/10.5 -170-Betus
AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7 -120-Betus
Optional second chase 3 extra road games
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
C 1/23 Blazers @ Pistons -3 -110
Optional THIRD chase 4 road games left A3= 3rd chase fading Bulls
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
B3 1/23 Bulls @ Rockets -6 -110
JM1: A-1/23-Wolves +7.5/10.5 -170-Betus
AJM: A-1/23-Bucks -7 -120-Betus
Optional second chase 3 extra road games
AJM: A 1/20 Blazers @ 76ers +2 -120 betus
B 1/22 Blazers @ Celtics -10 -120
C 1/23 Blazers @ Pistons -3 -110
Optional THIRD chase 4 road games left A3= 3rd chase fading Bulls
AJM: A3 1/22 Bulls @ Suns -6 -110 Betus
B3 1/23 Bulls @ Rockets -6 -110
- I play both JM and AJM plays.
- For JM plays I'm still experimenting with buying 2 points at -150 for JM picks if another book's line is 1/2 point or greater difference from what Betus has. Betus is the only book I know where I can buy 3 or more points and their line is almost always swayed against JM's plays. The max points you can buy at most other books is 2. As an example The Clippers were +2.5 at Betus and +3 at Bookmaker. So the decision is buy 3 (5.5) at Betus at -170, or buy 2 (5) at -150 and risk losing by 1/2 point.
- JM called the NJ chase a win at the Jan. 18 A game (+8.5+3=+11.5). However looking back at the line movement Betus had +8.5 from 9:43 am to 9:53 am. After that it went to +8 and lower. All other books had them at +8.5 or +9 but you can only buy 2 points so that would have been a push or loss. The only way you could have won that chase is if you had Betus and placed the bet between 9:43 am and 9:53 am.
- Other than that small window in the NJ series, buying 2 points did not affect the outcome of any JM chase.
- As for the AJM, I hate losing by a half point so many times i will buy a half.
- I play both JM and AJM plays.
- For JM plays I'm still experimenting with buying 2 points at -150 for JM picks if another book's line is 1/2 point or greater difference from what Betus has. Betus is the only book I know where I can buy 3 or more points and their line is almost always swayed against JM's plays. The max points you can buy at most other books is 2. As an example The Clippers were +2.5 at Betus and +3 at Bookmaker. So the decision is buy 3 (5.5) at Betus at -170, or buy 2 (5) at -150 and risk losing by 1/2 point.
- JM called the NJ chase a win at the Jan. 18 A game (+8.5+3=+11.5). However looking back at the line movement Betus had +8.5 from 9:43 am to 9:53 am. After that it went to +8 and lower. All other books had them at +8.5 or +9 but you can only buy 2 points so that would have been a push or loss. The only way you could have won that chase is if you had Betus and placed the bet between 9:43 am and 9:53 am.
- Other than that small window in the NJ series, buying 2 points did not affect the outcome of any JM chase.
- As for the AJM, I hate losing by a half point so many times i will buy a half.
As of 1/23, the records for both systems, game for game, is 48-2.
But really JM is 47-3 because many, many people lost the Pistons and Nets chase when JM called it a win.
The AJM record states 55-2 so that must include prior optional chases that I previously lumped together. Someday I will go back and separate them.
As of 1/23, the records for both systems, game for game, is 48-2.
But really JM is 47-3 because many, many people lost the Pistons and Nets chase when JM called it a win.
The AJM record states 55-2 so that must include prior optional chases that I previously lumped together. Someday I will go back and separate them.
- I play both JM and AJM plays.
- For JM plays I'm still experimenting with buying 2 points at -150 for JM picks if another book's line is 1/2 point or greater difference from what Betus has. Betus is the only book I know where I can buy 3 or more points and their line is almost always swayed against JM's plays. The max points you can buy at most other books is 2. As an example The Clippers were +2.5 at Betus and +3 at Bookmaker. So the decision is buy 3 (5.5) at Betus at -170, or buy 2 (5) at -150 and risk losing by 1/2 point.
- JM called the NJ chase a win at the Jan. 18 A game (+8.5+3=+11.5). However looking back at the line movement Betus had +8.5 from 9:43 am to 9:53 am. After that it went to +8 and lower. All other books had them at +8.5 or +9 but you can only buy 2 points so that would have been a push or loss. The only way you could have won that chase is if you had Betus and placed the bet between 9:43 am and 9:53 am.
- Other than that small window in the NJ series, buying 2 points did not affect the outcome of any JM chase.
- As for the AJM, I hate losing by a half point so many times i will buy a half.
- I play both JM and AJM plays.
- For JM plays I'm still experimenting with buying 2 points at -150 for JM picks if another book's line is 1/2 point or greater difference from what Betus has. Betus is the only book I know where I can buy 3 or more points and their line is almost always swayed against JM's plays. The max points you can buy at most other books is 2. As an example The Clippers were +2.5 at Betus and +3 at Bookmaker. So the decision is buy 3 (5.5) at Betus at -170, or buy 2 (5) at -150 and risk losing by 1/2 point.
- JM called the NJ chase a win at the Jan. 18 A game (+8.5+3=+11.5). However looking back at the line movement Betus had +8.5 from 9:43 am to 9:53 am. After that it went to +8 and lower. All other books had them at +8.5 or +9 but you can only buy 2 points so that would have been a push or loss. The only way you could have won that chase is if you had Betus and placed the bet between 9:43 am and 9:53 am.
- Other than that small window in the NJ series, buying 2 points did not affect the outcome of any JM chase.
- As for the AJM, I hate losing by a half point so many times i will buy a half.
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