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    Pittsburgh at Cleveland (11/24/2013)

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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:10 AM ET #1

    Away:  Pittsburgh [4-6 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [5-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: FirstEnergy Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Pittsburgh:
    Passing: Ben Roethlisberger (2901)
    Rushing: Le'Veon Bell (375)
    Receiving: Antonio Brown (952)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brandon Weeden (1152)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (275)
    Receiving: Josh Gordon (751)

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    Away:  Pittsburgh [4-6 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [5-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: FirstEnergy Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Pittsburgh:
    Passing: Ben Roethlisberger (2901)
    Rushing: Le'Veon Bell (375)
    Receiving: Antonio Brown (952)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brandon Weeden (1152)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (275)
    Receiving: Josh Gordon (751)

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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:37 AM ET #2

    STEELERS +1

    I think Pitt defense shutting out Detroit in the 2nd. half is 'meaningful' towards this game.

    I think Campbell regressing vs.a banged up Cincy D is also 'meaningful' towards this game.

    Offensively, Pittsburgh can the run the ball noticeably better than the Browns.  After that you are left with Big Ben vs. Campbell in a pressure season saving game....imo .    BOL...

     

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    STEELERS +1

    I think Pitt defense shutting out Detroit in the 2nd. half is 'meaningful' towards this game.

    I think Campbell regressing vs.a banged up Cincy D is also 'meaningful' towards this game.

    Offensively, Pittsburgh can the run the ball noticeably better than the Browns.  After that you are left with Big Ben vs. Campbell in a pressure season saving game....imo .    BOL...

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 1:59 AM ET #3

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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 8:29 AM ET #4

    I can't Believe Cleveland's sorry azz team is favored in anything.     But miracles do happen.   LMAO for PIttsburgh fall off so far.       I'm taking Pittsburgh to Cover  + 1
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    I can't Believe Cleveland's sorry azz team is favored in anything.     But miracles do happen.   LMAO for PIttsburgh fall off so far.       I'm taking Pittsburgh to Cover  + 1
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 11:49 AM ET #5

    I'm a Browns fan but after the two blocked punts versus Cincy last week, I've decided this team f'n sucks.  They were up 13-0 and had Cincy and crowd on ropes and pissed their pants.  Ben and Steelers are hot, Browns more interested in draft.  Take the Steelers, this Browns team makes me sick
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    I'm a Browns fan but after the two blocked punts versus Cincy last week, I've decided this team f'n sucks.  They were up 13-0 and had Cincy and crowd on ropes and pissed their pants.  Ben and Steelers are hot, Browns more interested in draft.  Take the Steelers, this Browns team makes me sick
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 3:27 PM ET #6

    I think pitts no matter how bad they still better that clevland clowns opps sorry browns
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    I think pitts no matter how bad they still better that clevland clowns opps sorry browns
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2013 - 1:25 AM ET #7

    This rivalry has been a little lopsided the past several years, but I expect it to be fully renewed on Sunday.  The Steeler's should be fired up after losing in Cleveland last year, a game that helped keep Pittsburgh out of the playoffs.  Cleveland is always fired up to play the Steeler's, because after they have a terrible season, they can always say "at least we beat Pittsburgh".  While Big Ben and the offense have been playing very well, the low total and line of Browns -1 are leading me to take the under in this one.  These two teams hate each other and I can see the Browns strong front 7 keeping Ben and the running game contained.  The only way Cleveland can win this game is with their defense, and based on the 41 total and the fact they're favored, I'm liking the under.  Refuse to bet on or against my own team, but I'm thinking Steelers 20 Browns 17   
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    This rivalry has been a little lopsided the past several years, but I expect it to be fully renewed on Sunday.  The Steeler's should be fired up after losing in Cleveland last year, a game that helped keep Pittsburgh out of the playoffs.  Cleveland is always fired up to play the Steeler's, because after they have a terrible season, they can always say "at least we beat Pittsburgh".  While Big Ben and the offense have been playing very well, the low total and line of Browns -1 are leading me to take the under in this one.  These two teams hate each other and I can see the Browns strong front 7 keeping Ben and the running game contained.  The only way Cleveland can win this game is with their defense, and based on the 41 total and the fact they're favored, I'm liking the under.  Refuse to bet on or against my own team, but I'm thinking Steelers 20 Browns 17   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2013 - 2:37 AM ET #8

    Good tease game - you could probably take 'em both and be O.K.
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    Good tease game - you could probably take 'em both and be O.K.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2013 - 9:51 AM ET #9

    Pitt covers
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    Pitt covers
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2013 - 1:04 PM ET #10

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1
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    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2013 - 6:46 PM ET #11

    Steel City Brawlers crash their way through Cleveland and toward the post season. I'm looking for Pittsburgh to go up 3 scores by half... The Browns are pretenders.  
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    Steel City Brawlers crash their way through Cleveland and toward the post season. I'm looking for Pittsburgh to go up 3 scores by half... The Browns are pretenders.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2013 - 6:48 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1

    Can't believe I'm quoting this guy,but he's 100 % correct in his assessments here.

    CLEVELAND   - 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1

    Can't believe I'm quoting this guy,but he's 100 % correct in his assessments here.

    CLEVELAND   - 1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2013 - 11:42 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1
      Antonio Brown is easily the Steelers top receiver this season....if HE was out I would be on the Browns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1
      Antonio Brown is easily the Steelers top receiver this season....if HE was out I would be on the Browns.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2013 - 12:01 AM ET #14

    Brownies win this game in a slug fest! Snow in the forecast.Browns defense wins this one.Prediction: 17-13 CLEVELAND
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    Brownies win this game in a slug fest! Snow in the forecast.Browns defense wins this one.Prediction: 17-13 CLEVELAND
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2013 - 12:57 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Jshimmy:

    This game is a tough one. Cleveland has nothing to play for now, they are out of the AFC north race and with rumors about trading Josh Gordon...hmmm seems like someones already planning for the offseason. But on the other hand Big Ben has not been to big this year, The steelers are in the wild card hunt, but them making it is very doubtful. With two teams with not much to play for and the QB's doing pretty bad, ill take the under this game. Next

    O.K. - you're new here, so you get one pass - but JUST ONE!!!

    If both teams are 4-6, and in the same division, how is it one of them "has nothing to play for", while the other is "in the wild card hunt"????

    You might want to "Double-Check" that, my friend.... Tongs are in your seatback..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshimmy:

    This game is a tough one. Cleveland has nothing to play for now, they are out of the AFC north race and with rumors about trading Josh Gordon...hmmm seems like someones already planning for the offseason. But on the other hand Big Ben has not been to big this year, The steelers are in the wild card hunt, but them making it is very doubtful. With two teams with not much to play for and the QB's doing pretty bad, ill take the under this game. Next

    O.K. - you're new here, so you get one pass - but JUST ONE!!!

    If both teams are 4-6, and in the same division, how is it one of them "has nothing to play for", while the other is "in the wild card hunt"????

    You might want to "Double-Check" that, my friend.... Tongs are in your seatback..........

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2013 - 11:04 PM ET #16

    UNDER 40   (Prime Play!)

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    UNDER 40   (Prime Play!)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2013 - 11:13 PM ET #17

    Cleveland backers are apparently forgetting that jason campbell is their quarterback and they have no running game whatsoever. Ill take my chances on pittsburgh in this one. 
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    Cleveland backers are apparently forgetting that jason campbell is their quarterback and they have no running game whatsoever. Ill take my chances on pittsburgh in this one. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2013 - 2:53 PM ET #18

    5 star play , Pitt money line !!
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    5 star play , Pitt money line !!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2013 - 3:56 PM ET #19

    exactly joedaddy!!!!. people do forget how bad they really are. I think them and giants fans are fing delusional thinking there gonna finish strong. pitt and gmen are failures this year plain and simple.
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    exactly joedaddy!!!!. people do forget how bad they really are. I think them and giants fans are fing delusional thinking there gonna finish strong. pitt and gmen are failures this year plain and simple.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2013 - 4:45 PM ET #20

    This Week's Over / Under Math Plays:

    Saints @ Falcons UNDER 52.5

    Steelers @ Browns OVER 41.5

    Buccaneers @ Lions OVER 48.5

    Vikings @ Packers OVER 44

    Jaguars @ Texans OVER 43.5

    Chargers @ Chiefs UNDER 41

    Bears @ Rams OVER 45

    Colts @ Cardinals UNDER 45

    Broncos @ Patriots OVER 55

    Niners @ Redskins OVER 47

     

     

     

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    This Week's Over / Under Math Plays:

    Saints @ Falcons UNDER 52.5

    Steelers @ Browns OVER 41.5

    Buccaneers @ Lions OVER 48.5

    Vikings @ Packers OVER 44

    Jaguars @ Texans OVER 43.5

    Chargers @ Chiefs UNDER 41

    Bears @ Rams OVER 45

    Colts @ Cardinals UNDER 45

    Broncos @ Patriots OVER 55

    Niners @ Redskins OVER 47

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2013 - 9:18 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:

    Cleveland backers are apparently forgetting that jason campbell is their quarterback and they have no running game whatsoever. Ill take my chances on pittsburgh in this one. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:

    Cleveland backers are apparently forgetting that jason campbell is their quarterback and they have no running game whatsoever. Ill take my chances on pittsburgh in this one. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2013 - 12:46 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i'm pretty surprised to see so may pittsburgh backers on here.  i guess people have short memories or do not understand how bad these steelers really are.  now theyre going to be missing their best WR in Sanders.  how are they gonna light up the scoreboard?  cuzz that cleveland secondary is one of best in the league and theyre very eager to hand pittsburgh an overdue beatdown.

    pittburgh isnt going anywhere.  big ben is a big statue back there and will suffer a fierce pass rush which is something that steelers does not have.

    this is great value as cleveland should be a 3pt favorite in this game.

    BROWNS -1
        
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2013 - 1:46 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    This Week's Over / Under Math Plays:

    Saints @ Falcons UNDER 52.5

    Steelers @ Browns OVER 41.5

    Buccaneers @ Lions OVER 48.5

    Vikings @ Packers OVER 44

    Jaguars @ Texans OVER 43.5

    Chargers @ Chiefs UNDER 41

    Bears @ Rams OVER 45

    Colts @ Cardinals UNDER 45

    Broncos @ Patriots OVER 55

    Niners @ Redskins OVER 47

     

     

     

    does your model factor in 20-30 MPH winds throughout the Northeast?  Going to be hard to complete deep passes and make FG's with winds like these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    This Week's Over / Under Math Plays:

    Saints @ Falcons UNDER 52.5

    Steelers @ Browns OVER 41.5

    Buccaneers @ Lions OVER 48.5

    Vikings @ Packers OVER 44

    Jaguars @ Texans OVER 43.5

    Chargers @ Chiefs UNDER 41

    Bears @ Rams OVER 45

    Colts @ Cardinals UNDER 45

    Broncos @ Patriots OVER 55

    Niners @ Redskins OVER 47

     

     

     

    does your model factor in 20-30 MPH winds throughout the Northeast?  Going to be hard to complete deep passes and make FG's with winds like these.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2013 - 6:51 AM ET #24

    Steelers are 1-4 ATS and SU on the road this season !
    Something to consider.
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    Steelers are 1-4 ATS and SU on the road this season !
    Something to consider.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2013 - 7:53 AM ET #25

    STEELERS MONEYLINE garbage!!
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    STEELERS MONEYLINE garbage!!
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