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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 4:30 AM ET #51

    By opening Venezuela oil fields the global oil market will experience a glut and price per gallon at the pump will drop.

     

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    By opening Venezuela oil fields the global oil market will experience a glut and price per gallon at the pump will drop.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 5:03 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    By opening Venezuela oil fields the global oil market will experience a glut and price per gallon at the pump will drop.

     

    No it will not - Russia is already selling way below market price - because they can't sell it legitimately - Canada will sell to Europe instead of you -- so you have just rerouted who sells oil to who -- Your government have went into Venezuela to ensure you have oil at all - because China legitimately own that oil - they brought it through a loan to Venezuela -- Oil prices will fall because the demand gets smaller because of investments in renewal energy - not because supply get even bigger 

     

    Cliffhanger explanation: The price was bound to fall no matter what happened in Venezuela

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    By opening Venezuela oil fields the global oil market will experience a glut and price per gallon at the pump will drop.

     

    No it will not - Russia is already selling way below market price - because they can't sell it legitimately - Canada will sell to Europe instead of you -- so you have just rerouted who sells oil to who -- Your government have went into Venezuela to ensure you have oil at all - because China legitimately own that oil - they brought it through a loan to Venezuela -- Oil prices will fall because the demand gets smaller because of investments in renewal energy - not because supply get even bigger 

     

    Cliffhanger explanation: The price was bound to fall no matter what happened in Venezuela

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 5:21 AM ET #53

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    "Canada will sell to Europe instead of you -"

    Irving oil Quebec sells products to Sprague energy here in Maine they have oil and gas holding facilities in South Portland smaller out fits rent space in tanks and tankers take products to delivery systems.

    I am not sure where else jd Irving sells products. But I am certain that USA is buying them in Maine any way....

    Bobby Kennedy worked with citgo providing low cost heating fuel in Massachusetts and Maine. The Venezuela company has been in this market under cn brown and big apple chains for many years....

    Not sure how Trump plans to stabilize the oil production in Venezuela but it is a needed global partner in OI supply.

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    @ Caldwell.

     

    "Canada will sell to Europe instead of you -"

    Irving oil Quebec sells products to Sprague energy here in Maine they have oil and gas holding facilities in South Portland smaller out fits rent space in tanks and tankers take products to delivery systems.

    I am not sure where else jd Irving sells products. But I am certain that USA is buying them in Maine any way....

    Bobby Kennedy worked with citgo providing low cost heating fuel in Massachusetts and Maine. The Venezuela company has been in this market under cn brown and big apple chains for many years....

    Not sure how Trump plans to stabilize the oil production in Venezuela but it is a needed global partner in OI supply.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 5:28 AM ET #54

    Oil is a commodity that is sold to the highest bidder - if Europe offered 1 cent more pr. barrel than you for Canadian oil - the routes would be changed tomorrow -- you have only had special treatment because Canada has stayed true to their promise regarding your mutual agreement - something Trump has chosen to dump in the toilet himself - they owe you nothing at this point

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    Oil is a commodity that is sold to the highest bidder - if Europe offered 1 cent more pr. barrel than you for Canadian oil - the routes would be changed tomorrow -- you have only had special treatment because Canada has stayed true to their promise regarding your mutual agreement - something Trump has chosen to dump in the toilet himself - they owe you nothing at this point

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 5:41 AM ET #55

    And oil is a "dying" commodity - every industrialised country on earth apart from you are investing tons of money in a future (in 50-60 years) where earth doesn't contain it as a natural ressource anymore -- but like we have grown to expect by now - you idiots over there are just pissing your pants to keep the heat for a few minutes - with no long term plan in mind --- Americans as we know them thejesterthejester 

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    And oil is a "dying" commodity - every industrialised country on earth apart from you are investing tons of money in a future (in 50-60 years) where earth doesn't contain it as a natural ressource anymore -- but like we have grown to expect by now - you idiots over there are just pissing your pants to keep the heat for a few minutes - with no long term plan in mind --- Americans as we know them thejesterthejester 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 7:26 AM ET #56

    The Monroe Doctrine was invoked in 1865 when the U.S. government exerted diplomatic and military pressure in support of the Mexican President Benito Juárez. This support enabled Juárez to lead a successful revolt against the Emperor Maximilian, who had been placed on the throne by the French government.

     

    Almost 40 years later, in 1904, European creditors of a number of Latin American countries threatened armed intervention to collect debts. President Theodore Roosevelt promptly proclaimed the right of the United States to exercise an "international police power" to curb such "chronic wrongdoing," in his so-called Roosevelt Corollary (or extension) to the Monroe Doctrine. 

     

    While the Monroe Doctrine’s message was designed to keep European powers out of the Western Hemisphere, Roosevelt would strengthen its meaning to justify sending the United States into other countries of the Western Hemisphere. As a result, U.S. Marines were sent into Santo Domingo in 1904, Nicaragua in 1911, and Haiti in 1915, ostensibly to keep the Europeans out. Other Latin American nations viewed these interventions with misgiving, and relations between the “great Colossus of the North” and its southern neighbors remained strained for many years.

     

    In 1962, the Monroe Doctrine was invoked symbolically when the Soviet Union began to build missile-launching sites in Cuba. With the support of the Organization of American States, President John F. Kennedy threw a naval and air quarantine around the island. After several tense days, the Soviet Union agreed to withdraw the missiles and dismantle the sites. Subsequently, the United States dismantled several of its obsolete air and missile bases in Turkey.

    Americans are resilient, and a super power. 

    Seems Trump decided to take the globe saying China can manage Asia, Europe has all it can do to deal with Europe and America has the western hemisphere...these policies will be short lived due to Trump's prospects of being re elected. It actually against the constitution for him to run again.

    But America interference with western hemisphere has been ongoing since the foundation of the nation. 

    Louisiana purchase and the need to remove Europe control has been established before . Trump now is threatening Columbia to stop the drugs coming to America. How far he will actually advance this to stopping drug trafficking remains to  be seen.

    And Trump power is a direction of who can stop America from invading their nation and creating regime change by force.

    Russia and Europe is tied up with Ukraine.

    China is looking at the south seas islands and nations they already annexed tibet for an example and tawain is next it seems.

    Realistically what can engage America to stop this....

    We don't comply with world court we have permanent veto power at the UN.... It is a much different world then when previous Presidents run this government.

     

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    The Monroe Doctrine was invoked in 1865 when the U.S. government exerted diplomatic and military pressure in support of the Mexican President Benito Juárez. This support enabled Juárez to lead a successful revolt against the Emperor Maximilian, who had been placed on the throne by the French government.

     

    Almost 40 years later, in 1904, European creditors of a number of Latin American countries threatened armed intervention to collect debts. President Theodore Roosevelt promptly proclaimed the right of the United States to exercise an "international police power" to curb such "chronic wrongdoing," in his so-called Roosevelt Corollary (or extension) to the Monroe Doctrine. 

     

    While the Monroe Doctrine’s message was designed to keep European powers out of the Western Hemisphere, Roosevelt would strengthen its meaning to justify sending the United States into other countries of the Western Hemisphere. As a result, U.S. Marines were sent into Santo Domingo in 1904, Nicaragua in 1911, and Haiti in 1915, ostensibly to keep the Europeans out. Other Latin American nations viewed these interventions with misgiving, and relations between the “great Colossus of the North” and its southern neighbors remained strained for many years.

     

    In 1962, the Monroe Doctrine was invoked symbolically when the Soviet Union began to build missile-launching sites in Cuba. With the support of the Organization of American States, President John F. Kennedy threw a naval and air quarantine around the island. After several tense days, the Soviet Union agreed to withdraw the missiles and dismantle the sites. Subsequently, the United States dismantled several of its obsolete air and missile bases in Turkey.

    Americans are resilient, and a super power. 

    Seems Trump decided to take the globe saying China can manage Asia, Europe has all it can do to deal with Europe and America has the western hemisphere...these policies will be short lived due to Trump's prospects of being re elected. It actually against the constitution for him to run again.

    But America interference with western hemisphere has been ongoing since the foundation of the nation. 

    Louisiana purchase and the need to remove Europe control has been established before . Trump now is threatening Columbia to stop the drugs coming to America. How far he will actually advance this to stopping drug trafficking remains to  be seen.

    And Trump power is a direction of who can stop America from invading their nation and creating regime change by force.

    Russia and Europe is tied up with Ukraine.

    China is looking at the south seas islands and nations they already annexed tibet for an example and tawain is next it seems.

    Realistically what can engage America to stop this....

    We don't comply with world court we have permanent veto power at the UN.... It is a much different world then when previous Presidents run this government.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 8:02 AM ET #57

    You are trying to isolate yourself in a globalized world - that is the problem ! - Btw you don't have to take a distant look into the future - trying to come up with a strategy how you handle your position as a "super power" - if this strategy of yours don't change and don't change fast - you will not have a future as one (you don't have neither the ressources nor the manpower of being one) an_cheers

    Drugs isn't a problem you can solve by getting rid of the source - you need to remove the demand for it if you want to remove drugs - as long as there is money to be made, someone will provide it !

     

    Btw Russia and Ukraine are both part of Europe - you most likely is referring to EU

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    You are trying to isolate yourself in a globalized world - that is the problem ! - Btw you don't have to take a distant look into the future - trying to come up with a strategy how you handle your position as a "super power" - if this strategy of yours don't change and don't change fast - you will not have a future as one (you don't have neither the ressources nor the manpower of being one) an_cheers

    Drugs isn't a problem you can solve by getting rid of the source - you need to remove the demand for it if you want to remove drugs - as long as there is money to be made, someone will provide it !

     

    Btw Russia and Ukraine are both part of Europe - you most likely is referring to EU

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 8:32 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    And oil is a "dying" commodity - every industrialised country on earth apart from you are investing tons of money in a future (in 50-60 years) where earth doesn't contain it as a natural ressource anymore -- but like we have grown to expect by now - you idiots over there are just pissing your pants to keep the heat for a few minutes - with no long term plan in mind --- Americans as we know them

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughAfraid that was Europe's problem. No problem getting LNG over here. We bailed your pissy pants out; https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/europe-soaked-up-nearly-all-us-lng-exports-last-month-data-show-2025-02-03/

    2023; https://energy.mit.edu/news/winter-is-coming-can-europe-keep-the-lights-on-and-homes-warm/

    There are three distinct aspects of the current energy crisis facing Europe this winter, collectively converging into a perfect storm. Europeans are experiencing unprecedented gas and electricity prices, struggling to ensure there is sufficient natural gas available to meet demands, while also trying to cope with possible disruptions to electricity supply.

    Instead of investing in the future (50-60 years from now) you idiots went full out Chicken Little shutting down nuke plants, mothballing coal power plants, building more gas pipelines to Russia and then pounded your chests claiming your headed to carbon zero. Meanwhile for every kilo of carbon you save China adds five more kilos, not to mention India. Russia gets rich and your paying four times higher energy bills. Europeon manufacturing is on it's way out because of it. 

    I say technology will lead us away from fossil fuels and it takes time. China talks the talk and continues to spew carbon at accelerating rates. Only when technology beats the cost of fossil fuels will change happen. Europe artifically raises fossil fuel cost and makes EV the better high price choice. I see 20 years from now we will look back at EV's and huge windmill turbines like we looked back at the first satelite dishes that were 10ft across planted in peoples yards in the 1970's and laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    And oil is a "dying" commodity - every industrialised country on earth apart from you are investing tons of money in a future (in 50-60 years) where earth doesn't contain it as a natural ressource anymore -- but like we have grown to expect by now - you idiots over there are just pissing your pants to keep the heat for a few minutes - with no long term plan in mind --- Americans as we know them

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughAfraid that was Europe's problem. No problem getting LNG over here. We bailed your pissy pants out; https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/europe-soaked-up-nearly-all-us-lng-exports-last-month-data-show-2025-02-03/

    2023; https://energy.mit.edu/news/winter-is-coming-can-europe-keep-the-lights-on-and-homes-warm/

    There are three distinct aspects of the current energy crisis facing Europe this winter, collectively converging into a perfect storm. Europeans are experiencing unprecedented gas and electricity prices, struggling to ensure there is sufficient natural gas available to meet demands, while also trying to cope with possible disruptions to electricity supply.

    Instead of investing in the future (50-60 years from now) you idiots went full out Chicken Little shutting down nuke plants, mothballing coal power plants, building more gas pipelines to Russia and then pounded your chests claiming your headed to carbon zero. Meanwhile for every kilo of carbon you save China adds five more kilos, not to mention India. Russia gets rich and your paying four times higher energy bills. Europeon manufacturing is on it's way out because of it. 

    I say technology will lead us away from fossil fuels and it takes time. China talks the talk and continues to spew carbon at accelerating rates. Only when technology beats the cost of fossil fuels will change happen. Europe artifically raises fossil fuel cost and makes EV the better high price choice. I see 20 years from now we will look back at EV's and huge windmill turbines like we looked back at the first satelite dishes that were 10ft across planted in peoples yards in the 1970's and laugh.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 9:32 AM ET #59

    No country within EU have tried to be a super power for 80 years - but nice try an_cheers EU is an economic superpower - never having tried being anything but - and Russia isn't getting rich what the fuck have you smoked (maybe Trump should try combat that - that shit don't seem healthy) - they are tieng you as the worst run super power ever to have existed 

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    No country within EU have tried to be a super power for 80 years - but nice try an_cheers EU is an economic superpower - never having tried being anything but - and Russia isn't getting rich what the fuck have you smoked (maybe Trump should try combat that - that shit don't seem healthy) - they are tieng you as the worst run super power ever to have existed 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2026 - 11:25 AM ET #60

    Where did I say EU trying to be superpower? I think they're too damn stupid to ever be one. Had someone, anyone, step in and resolve the Russia/Ukraine issues before the war you might be in a better place. But no, you let Biden of all people have the reins. Putin had his army on the border for 10 months before the invasion. And nobody cared, basically daring him to invade. And I say "might be in a better place" because if there was not this war the two Nordstream pipelines would be sending up to 110 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe. That was the plan, buy gas from Russia, make them rich. Trump saw what a farce it was! You wanted NATO to spend billions protecting you from Russia all the while you were going to depend on them for natural gas and make them rich. It took a damn war for Europe to figure it out. Remember the Germans laughing at Trump when he said that? Dumb asses.

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    Where did I say EU trying to be superpower? I think they're too damn stupid to ever be one. Had someone, anyone, step in and resolve the Russia/Ukraine issues before the war you might be in a better place. But no, you let Biden of all people have the reins. Putin had his army on the border for 10 months before the invasion. And nobody cared, basically daring him to invade. And I say "might be in a better place" because if there was not this war the two Nordstream pipelines would be sending up to 110 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe. That was the plan, buy gas from Russia, make them rich. Trump saw what a farce it was! You wanted NATO to spend billions protecting you from Russia all the while you were going to depend on them for natural gas and make them rich. It took a damn war for Europe to figure it out. Remember the Germans laughing at Trump when he said that? Dumb asses.

     
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    Ohh ok then I misunderstood what you meant mb - but that is how the world works though - countries do trades with each other also as a way of soft power - until 4 years ago we didn’t have much reason to think Russia would go nuts (they have basically been a mental patient since it was thought up as a country - so we have basically just gotten used to the daily threat - when he feel in the mood to calculate how quick his atomic bombs can reach different cities - he has been like the sick uncle everyone laughed at) - we have internal conflicts on the daily over here between each other - internal trade is one of the strongest forces holding us together - so I don’t know if I would say what Germany did was stupid per say - in hindsight of course it was ! But I won’t derail this thread more - I suspect there will be more than enough to talk about regarding this without mixing internal affairs in Europe into the mix thumbs_up

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    Ohh ok then I misunderstood what you meant mb - but that is how the world works though - countries do trades with each other also as a way of soft power - until 4 years ago we didn’t have much reason to think Russia would go nuts (they have basically been a mental patient since it was thought up as a country - so we have basically just gotten used to the daily threat - when he feel in the mood to calculate how quick his atomic bombs can reach different cities - he has been like the sick uncle everyone laughed at) - we have internal conflicts on the daily over here between each other - internal trade is one of the strongest forces holding us together - so I don’t know if I would say what Germany did was stupid per say - in hindsight of course it was ! But I won’t derail this thread more - I suspect there will be more than enough to talk about regarding this without mixing internal affairs in Europe into the mix thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Where did I say EU trying to be superpower? I think they're too damn stupid to ever be one. Had someone, anyone, step in and resolve the Russia/Ukraine issues before the war you might be in a better place. But no, you let Biden of all people have the reins. Putin had his army on the border for 10 months before the invasion. And nobody cared, basically daring him to invade. And I say "might be in a better place" because if there was not this war the two Nordstream pipelines would be sending up to 110 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe. That was the plan, buy gas from Russia, make them rich. Trump saw what a farce it was! You wanted NATO to spend billions protecting you from Russia all the while you were going to depend on them for natural gas and make them rich. It took a damn war for Europe to figure it out. Remember the Germans laughing at Trump when he said that? Dumb asses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Where did I say EU trying to be superpower? I think they're too damn stupid to ever be one. Had someone, anyone, step in and resolve the Russia/Ukraine issues before the war you might be in a better place. But no, you let Biden of all people have the reins. Putin had his army on the border for 10 months before the invasion. And nobody cared, basically daring him to invade. And I say "might be in a better place" because if there was not this war the two Nordstream pipelines would be sending up to 110 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe. That was the plan, buy gas from Russia, make them rich. Trump saw what a farce it was! You wanted NATO to spend billions protecting you from Russia all the while you were going to depend on them for natural gas and make them rich. It took a damn war for Europe to figure it out. Remember the Germans laughing at Trump when he said that? Dumb asses.
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    Secretary of State Marco Rubio declared that the Western Hemisphere is a core U.S. strategic area, and said President Trump will not allow threats from drug cartels, Iranian proxies, or hostile regimes to take root in the region—underscoring the administration’s aggressive stance on security following its actions in Venezuela and broader efforts to safeguard the hemisphere

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    Secretary of State Marco Rubio declared that the Western Hemisphere is a core U.S. strategic area, and said President Trump will not allow threats from drug cartels, Iranian proxies, or hostile regimes to take root in the region—underscoring the administration’s aggressive stance on security following its actions in Venezuela and broader efforts to safeguard the hemisphere

    Source White House 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    And oil is a "dying" commodity - every industrialised country on earth apart from you are investing tons of money in a future where earth doesn't contain it as a natural ressource anymore --

    In long term future, global demand for oil, gas and especially coal is expected to decline because of cheaper renewables and climate goals.  For Europe, investing in renewables ensure more energy independence.  By 2050, renewables are estimated to supply 65% of all US electricity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    And oil is a "dying" commodity - every industrialised country on earth apart from you are investing tons of money in a future where earth doesn't contain it as a natural ressource anymore --

    In long term future, global demand for oil, gas and especially coal is expected to decline because of cheaper renewables and climate goals.  For Europe, investing in renewables ensure more energy independence.  By 2050, renewables are estimated to supply 65% of all US electricity.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Secretary of State Marco Rubio declared that the Western Hemisphere is a core U.S. strategic area, and said President Trump will not allow threats from drug cartels, Iranian proxies, or hostile regimes to take root in the region—underscoring the administration’s aggressive stance on security following its actions in Venezuela and broader efforts to safeguard the hemisphere Source White House

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Secretary of State Marco Rubio declared that the Western Hemisphere is a core U.S. strategic area, and said President Trump will not allow threats from drug cartels, Iranian proxies, or hostile regimes to take root in the region—underscoring the administration’s aggressive stance on security following its actions in Venezuela and broader efforts to safeguard the hemisphere Source White House

    The Donroe Doctrine 

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    @UNIMAN

     So given that Ukraine is not part of the EU what exactly would you have the EU do with regards to Russia and Ukraine? Isnt that the area that the UN is the body to navigate and thus the US since we carry most of the UN unfortunately?

    Why do you insult Germany or any EU country for trying to get the best prices for NG given that they are net consumers not producers and the EU has worked with Russia for how long to supply their NG needs?

    For the insults you make there is nothing of substance that you say which would be better or preferred, you just like to elevate Trump and crap on anyone else as displayed in this thread and most every other.

    What has Trump done with regards to helping the EU with their NG needs, what has Trump done with regards to Ukraine and Russia? Absolutely nothing...so if you want to crap on others you are going to look foolish when the guy you back has done nothing better and is a real loser himself.

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    @UNIMAN

     So given that Ukraine is not part of the EU what exactly would you have the EU do with regards to Russia and Ukraine? Isnt that the area that the UN is the body to navigate and thus the US since we carry most of the UN unfortunately?

    Why do you insult Germany or any EU country for trying to get the best prices for NG given that they are net consumers not producers and the EU has worked with Russia for how long to supply their NG needs?

    For the insults you make there is nothing of substance that you say which would be better or preferred, you just like to elevate Trump and crap on anyone else as displayed in this thread and most every other.

    What has Trump done with regards to helping the EU with their NG needs, what has Trump done with regards to Ukraine and Russia? Absolutely nothing...so if you want to crap on others you are going to look foolish when the guy you back has done nothing better and is a real loser himself.

     
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    At United nations meeting, allies and enemies condemn Trump crime of aggression in clear violation of international law.  There is no justification for US use of force in Venezuela.  US military operation is illegal because it lacked United nations approval or Venezuelan consent and did not constitute self defense.  

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    At United nations meeting, allies and enemies condemn Trump crime of aggression in clear violation of international law.  There is no justification for US use of force in Venezuela.  US military operation is illegal because it lacked United nations approval or Venezuelan consent and did not constitute self defense.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  So given that Ukraine is not part of the EU what exactly would you have the EU do with regards to Russia and Ukraine? Isnt that the area that the UN is the body to navigate and thus the US since we carry most of the UN unfortunately? Why do you insult Germany or any EU country for trying to get the best prices for NG given that they are net consumers not producers and the EU has worked with Russia for how long to supply their NG needs? For the insults you make there is nothing of substance that you say which would be better or preferred, you just like to elevate Trump and crap on anyone else as displayed in this thread and most every other. What has Trump done with regards to helping the EU with their NG needs, what has Trump done with regards to Ukraine and Russia? Absolutely nothing...so if you want to crap on others you are going to look foolish when the guy you back has done nothing better and is a real loser himself.

    Are you an American? You talk about me insulting?

    you idiots over there are just pissing your pants to keep the heat for a few minutes - with no long term plan in mind --- Americans as we know them thejesterthejester 

    That's why I insulted. You seem hyperfocused on my comments and ignore all others. Guess mentioning that Trump was right got your undies in a bunch.

    Trump said this too; During the Russia/Ukraine war the EU has spent more money buying Russian fossil fuels then giving Ukraine assistance. surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  So given that Ukraine is not part of the EU what exactly would you have the EU do with regards to Russia and Ukraine? Isnt that the area that the UN is the body to navigate and thus the US since we carry most of the UN unfortunately? Why do you insult Germany or any EU country for trying to get the best prices for NG given that they are net consumers not producers and the EU has worked with Russia for how long to supply their NG needs? For the insults you make there is nothing of substance that you say which would be better or preferred, you just like to elevate Trump and crap on anyone else as displayed in this thread and most every other. What has Trump done with regards to helping the EU with their NG needs, what has Trump done with regards to Ukraine and Russia? Absolutely nothing...so if you want to crap on others you are going to look foolish when the guy you back has done nothing better and is a real loser himself.

    Are you an American? You talk about me insulting?

    you idiots over there are just pissing your pants to keep the heat for a few minutes - with no long term plan in mind --- Americans as we know them thejesterthejester 

    That's why I insulted. You seem hyperfocused on my comments and ignore all others. Guess mentioning that Trump was right got your undies in a bunch.

    Trump said this too; During the Russia/Ukraine war the EU has spent more money buying Russian fossil fuels then giving Ukraine assistance. surprised

     
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    @UNIMAN

     So if I am American then I have to blindly support Trump is that your line of logic?

    Europe is a large net importer of NG, prior to the sanctions they imported over 40% of their supply needs from Russia. So given that Ukraine is not a member of the EU what is your suggestion that is better given that the UN deals with this not the EU and they have been importing Russian NG for a very long time?

    What has Trump done to provide Europe with the NG lost from the sanctions and what has Trump done since day as his claim to finish the Russia/Ukraine situation?

    If you want to crap on the EU then provide a better plan and let us know what Trump has done to those things you are complaining.

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    @UNIMAN

     So if I am American then I have to blindly support Trump is that your line of logic?

    Europe is a large net importer of NG, prior to the sanctions they imported over 40% of their supply needs from Russia. So given that Ukraine is not a member of the EU what is your suggestion that is better given that the UN deals with this not the EU and they have been importing Russian NG for a very long time?

    What has Trump done to provide Europe with the NG lost from the sanctions and what has Trump done since day as his claim to finish the Russia/Ukraine situation?

    If you want to crap on the EU then provide a better plan and let us know what Trump has done to those things you are complaining.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  So if I am American then I have to blindly support Trump is that your line of logic?

    Europe is a large net importer of NG, prior to the sanctions they imported over 40% of their supply needs from Russia. So given that Ukraine is not a member of the EU

    what is your suggestion that is better given that the UN deals with this not the EU and they have been importing Russian NG for a very long time?

    What has Trump done to provide Europe with the NG lost from the sanctions

    and what has Trump done since day as his claim to finish the Russia/Ukraine situation? If you want to crap on the EU then provide a better plan and let us know what Trump has done to those things you are complaining.

    ---My line of logic is you asked Why I insult Germany and I answer because as an American I was insulted. No blind support mentioned.

    ---My suggestion would have been not to encourage a corrupt country that just overthrew their Russian favoring president to join NATO. 

    ---Biden, in the name of climate change paused any new LNG exports only to have Europe start asking questions. Turned out it was really nothing but talk.

    ---Jan 23, 2025; Jan 23 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Thursday the United States would guarantee supplies of liquefied natural gas to Europe, even amid worries that the booming export industry could boost prices of gas for U.S. consumers.

     

    In 2025, U.S. liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports to Europe surged, with the U.S. supplying about 57% of Europe's LNG imports, as the continent sought alternatives to Russian gas. This marked a significant increase, with U.S. shipments rising by 55% year-on-year, highlighting the growing reliance on American energy supplies.

    IMO, Trump saying he would end the war on day one was as stupid as Biden saying Putin has no soul. Biden could never negotiate with Putin after saying that and Putin will never allow Trump to take credit for ending the war. At least Trump tries and Biden never did. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  So if I am American then I have to blindly support Trump is that your line of logic?

    Europe is a large net importer of NG, prior to the sanctions they imported over 40% of their supply needs from Russia. So given that Ukraine is not a member of the EU

    what is your suggestion that is better given that the UN deals with this not the EU and they have been importing Russian NG for a very long time?

    What has Trump done to provide Europe with the NG lost from the sanctions

    and what has Trump done since day as his claim to finish the Russia/Ukraine situation? If you want to crap on the EU then provide a better plan and let us know what Trump has done to those things you are complaining.

    ---My line of logic is you asked Why I insult Germany and I answer because as an American I was insulted. No blind support mentioned.

    ---My suggestion would have been not to encourage a corrupt country that just overthrew their Russian favoring president to join NATO. 

    ---Biden, in the name of climate change paused any new LNG exports only to have Europe start asking questions. Turned out it was really nothing but talk.

    ---Jan 23, 2025; Jan 23 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Thursday the United States would guarantee supplies of liquefied natural gas to Europe, even amid worries that the booming export industry could boost prices of gas for U.S. consumers.

     

    In 2025, U.S. liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports to Europe surged, with the U.S. supplying about 57% of Europe's LNG imports, as the continent sought alternatives to Russian gas. This marked a significant increase, with U.S. shipments rising by 55% year-on-year, highlighting the growing reliance on American energy supplies.

    IMO, Trump saying he would end the war on day one was as stupid as Biden saying Putin has no soul. Biden could never negotiate with Putin after saying that and Putin will never allow Trump to take credit for ending the war. At least Trump tries and Biden never did. 

     
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    Why were you offended as an American ? Is it wrong what I said ? You as a country demilitarised us after WW2 because you wanted to be the one solving our military problems - this world is your design - and now you piss away your most important trading partner and one of the most influential economic super powers in the world — would you say that is how to run a “super power” genuinely asking - if we in the grand battle choose to side with China - Trump has single handly handed China two nuclear nations - 25 trillion dollars extra in potiential military spending - and 744 million extra potiential soldiers (not to talk about our influence in Africa + Middle East with 1.6 billion people and 600-700 million respectively) - really all for nothing gained - apart from feeding your ego - which I must admit I have seen how big it is interacting with people like you thumbs_up

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    Why were you offended as an American ? Is it wrong what I said ? You as a country demilitarised us after WW2 because you wanted to be the one solving our military problems - this world is your design - and now you piss away your most important trading partner and one of the most influential economic super powers in the world — would you say that is how to run a “super power” genuinely asking - if we in the grand battle choose to side with China - Trump has single handly handed China two nuclear nations - 25 trillion dollars extra in potiential military spending - and 744 million extra potiential soldiers (not to talk about our influence in Africa + Middle East with 1.6 billion people and 600-700 million respectively) - really all for nothing gained - apart from feeding your ego - which I must admit I have seen how big it is interacting with people like you thumbs_up

     
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    And regarding energy as discussed here - every major country that don’t focus on renewable energy are literally pissing their pants to keep the heat (that is just based on how oil is produced in the water and underground - I guess it would have done Trump and co. A lot of good to study instead of relying on a “guy” from a 2000 year old book come and save them when that times come where there is nothing left to drill an_angel) ! I don’t get how you take that argument over to who you buy energy from - and EU has every possibility to be at the forefront of renewable energy - we have the mindset for it and we have different countries that are experts in pretty every renewable energy source know to man ! - yours truly live in the country with the two BEST windturbine companies in the world  

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    And regarding energy as discussed here - every major country that don’t focus on renewable energy are literally pissing their pants to keep the heat (that is just based on how oil is produced in the water and underground - I guess it would have done Trump and co. A lot of good to study instead of relying on a “guy” from a 2000 year old book come and save them when that times come where there is nothing left to drill an_angel) ! I don’t get how you take that argument over to who you buy energy from - and EU has every possibility to be at the forefront of renewable energy - we have the mindset for it and we have different countries that are experts in pretty every renewable energy source know to man ! - yours truly live in the country with the two BEST windturbine companies in the world  

     
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    And you behave like you will just take that discussion when there is no oil left - as it is something you decide on Wednesday and then it is done by Monday kind of deal - well a windturbine park takes YEARS to set up 

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    And you behave like you will just take that discussion when there is no oil left - as it is something you decide on Wednesday and then it is done by Monday kind of deal - well a windturbine park takes YEARS to set up 

     
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    But Uniman if you get that easily offended  on behalf of your country I would suggest you stopped interacting with me - because as long as Trump is running it like he does I have nothing good to say about it - as my mom taught me never to lie even if it enrich me personally — I think Trump has sealed both of our continents destiny - mine for the better - yours 100% for the worse  an_cheers

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    But Uniman if you get that easily offended  on behalf of your country I would suggest you stopped interacting with me - because as long as Trump is running it like he does I have nothing good to say about it - as my mom taught me never to lie even if it enrich me personally — I think Trump has sealed both of our continents destiny - mine for the better - yours 100% for the worse  an_cheers

     
     
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    I am sure zelensky is breaking a huge sigh of relief cause Denmark and Germany is sympathetic to their cause.....

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    I am sure zelensky is breaking a huge sigh of relief cause Denmark and Germany is sympathetic to their cause.....

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