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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2025 - 7:35 PM ET #1

    Without proof this is nothing less than murder! He should start striking the meth labs in Oklahoma, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee ,Indiana! 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Without proof this is nothing less than murder! He should start striking the meth labs in Oklahoma, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee ,Indiana! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 7:07 AM ET #2

    US military followed Trump illegal order to invade Venezuela.  Capturing president and wife.  Most Americans oppose presidential use of military abroad without congress approval according to survey by Institute for global affairs.  Also they see Trump foreign policy as reckless and making things worse.  His national security strategy is a return to imperialism.  Historically, forced regime changes risk unintended consequences. Those who don't learn from history are forced to repeat it.

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    US military followed Trump illegal order to invade Venezuela.  Capturing president and wife.  Most Americans oppose presidential use of military abroad without congress approval according to survey by Institute for global affairs.  Also they see Trump foreign policy as reckless and making things worse.  His national security strategy is a return to imperialism.  Historically, forced regime changes risk unintended consequences. Those who don't learn from history are forced to repeat it.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 9:14 AM ET #3

    I just knew it.

    I knew I would wake up some morning & that POS would have us in a new war. He has shown no proof that these attacks on fishing boats were due to drugs coming from Venezuela,

    His attempt to distract attention from his many fuckups isn't going to work. Americans should be outraged & this fucktard has got to go.

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    I just knew it.

    I knew I would wake up some morning & that POS would have us in a new war. He has shown no proof that these attacks on fishing boats were due to drugs coming from Venezuela,

    His attempt to distract attention from his many fuckups isn't going to work. Americans should be outraged & this fucktard has got to go.

    thumbs_down

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 10:37 AM ET #4

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     People are too informed to fall for this BS head fake.  Desperate men, do desperate things, in desperate situations.

    Just a clown... doing clown things
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    @Midnight1

     People are too informed to fall for this BS head fake.  Desperate men, do desperate things, in desperate situations.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 11:09 AM ET #5

    America first?

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    America first?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 11:22 AM ET #6

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     War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this?

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     War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 12:34 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this?

    You poor little innocent thing - like removing Saddam Hussein stopped the Iraq war etc.

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this?

    You poor little innocent thing - like removing Saddam Hussein stopped the Iraq war etc.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 12:41 PM ET #8

    We’re going to run the country.’ - Donald Trump Aka  Mr. Potato Head. paint_help …I a week he will be saying Maduro attacked the US ! Sounds like Putin!

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    We’re going to run the country.’ - Donald Trump Aka  Mr. Potato Head. paint_help …I a week he will be saying Maduro attacked the US ! Sounds like Putin!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 12:44 PM ET #9

    No need to look for weapons of mass destruction this time ! …To bad Jack Smith never had the chance to get this criminal in court for his attempted overthrow of the government!…! History will not be kind to this Administration!

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    No need to look for weapons of mass destruction this time ! …To bad Jack Smith never had the chance to get this criminal in court for his attempted overthrow of the government!…! History will not be kind to this Administration!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 1:43 PM ET #10

    Venezuelans celebrate across the globe as democrats fume.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article314137821.html

    https://nypost.com/2026/01/03/world-news/venezuelans-across-globe-celebrate-us-capture-of-nicolas-maduro/

     

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    Venezuelans celebrate across the globe as democrats fume.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article314137821.html

    https://nypost.com/2026/01/03/world-news/venezuelans-across-globe-celebrate-us-capture-of-nicolas-maduro/

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 1:44 PM ET #11

    With this action if I’m China I’m in Taiwan with both barrels tomorrow!…For National Security!

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    With this action if I’m China I’m in Taiwan with both barrels tomorrow!…For National Security!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 2:20 PM ET #12

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     Why are you not fuming? Is this proper action that was approved from congress and does not put security of the country and our citizens at risk?

    If you do approve what is the rationalization in your mind for doing this? Isnt the UN supposed to make decisions like this and not the US alone?

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    @UNIMAN

     Why are you not fuming? Is this proper action that was approved from congress and does not put security of the country and our citizens at risk?

    If you do approve what is the rationalization in your mind for doing this? Isnt the UN supposed to make decisions like this and not the US alone?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 2:50 PM ET #13

    Trump claim that Venezuela stole oil from US companies is baseless.  Actually, companies never owned oil or land and were never kicked out.  Chevron still operates in Venezuela and courts awarded compensations for companies affected by nationalization.  But US sanctions made it impossible for Venezuela to pay companies.

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    Trump claim that Venezuela stole oil from US companies is baseless.  Actually, companies never owned oil or land and were never kicked out.  Chevron still operates in Venezuela and courts awarded compensations for companies affected by nationalization.  But US sanctions made it impossible for Venezuela to pay companies.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 3:17 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this?

    The fact that some Venezuelans are cheering now doesn't alleviate their fear of what will happen in the days to come. It also doesn't give your boy the authority to kidnap the President of another country. So now, China can do the same thing in Thailand???

    But the Venezuelans here in South Florida know that their asses aren't out of the woods just yet. He wants to deport most of them.

    The opposing leaders party have a plan they say. A plan? A plan? You mean like Bubblebutt's healthcare plan??

    And now President Snoozer says the US will run the Venezuelan government until a peaceful transition can be arranged.

    What could possibly go wrong?  

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this?

    The fact that some Venezuelans are cheering now doesn't alleviate their fear of what will happen in the days to come. It also doesn't give your boy the authority to kidnap the President of another country. So now, China can do the same thing in Thailand???

    But the Venezuelans here in South Florida know that their asses aren't out of the woods just yet. He wants to deport most of them.

    The opposing leaders party have a plan they say. A plan? A plan? You mean like Bubblebutt's healthcare plan??

    And now President Snoozer says the US will run the Venezuelan government until a peaceful transition can be arranged.

    What could possibly go wrong?  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 4:36 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I just knew it. I knew I would wake up some morning & that POS would have us in a new war. He has shown no proof that these attacks on fishing boats were due to drugs coming from Venezuela, His attempt to distract attention from his many fuckups isn't going to work. Americans should be outraged & this fucktard has got to go.

    Well said! Dementia Don has always been eager to start a war. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I just knew it. I knew I would wake up some morning & that POS would have us in a new war. He has shown no proof that these attacks on fishing boats were due to drugs coming from Venezuela, His attempt to distract attention from his many fuckups isn't going to work. Americans should be outraged & this fucktard has got to go.

    Well said! Dementia Don has always been eager to start a war. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 4:38 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this? The fact that some Venezuelans are cheering now doesn't alleviate their fear of what will happen in the days to come. It also doesn't give your boy the authority to kidnap the President of another country. So now, China can do the same thing in Thailand??? But the Venezuelans here in South Florida know that their asses aren't out of the woods just yet. He wants to deport most of them. The opposing leaders party have a plan they say. A plan? A plan? You mean like Bubblebutt's healthcare plan?? And now President Snoozer says the US will run the Venezuelan government until a peaceful transition can be arranged. What could possibly go wrong?

    To the point made in your rhetorical question, there’s like 4 different factions that will want power. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this? The fact that some Venezuelans are cheering now doesn't alleviate their fear of what will happen in the days to come. It also doesn't give your boy the authority to kidnap the President of another country. So now, China can do the same thing in Thailand??? But the Venezuelans here in South Florida know that their asses aren't out of the woods just yet. He wants to deport most of them. The opposing leaders party have a plan they say. A plan? A plan? You mean like Bubblebutt's healthcare plan?? And now President Snoozer says the US will run the Venezuelan government until a peaceful transition can be arranged. What could possibly go wrong?

    To the point made in your rhetorical question, there’s like 4 different factions that will want power. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 5:27 PM ET #17

    So a bounty on Maduro during bush Obama Biden was ok. But arresting him oh that's too much....

    So when Clinton ordered the abduction and removal of Noriega that's fine.... But now I'm my God what ....

    Can we at least not look like the Republican party and seem to ooze of hypocrisy.

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    So a bounty on Maduro during bush Obama Biden was ok. But arresting him oh that's too much....

    So when Clinton ordered the abduction and removal of Noriega that's fine.... But now I'm my God what ....

    Can we at least not look like the Republican party and seem to ooze of hypocrisy.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 5:32 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  Why are you not fuming? Is this proper action that was approved from congress and does not put security of the country and our citizens at risk? If you do approve what is the rationalization in your mind for doing this? Isnt the UN supposed to make decisions like this and not the US alone?

    No different than Noriega 1989. The precedent was set then. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  Why are you not fuming? Is this proper action that was approved from congress and does not put security of the country and our citizens at risk? If you do approve what is the rationalization in your mind for doing this? Isnt the UN supposed to make decisions like this and not the US alone?

    No different than Noriega 1989. The precedent was set then. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    So a bounty on Maduro during bush Obama Biden was ok. But arresting him oh that's too much.... So when Clinton ordered the abduction and removal of Noriega that's fine.... But now I'm my God what .... Can we at least not look like the Republican party and seem to ooze of hypocrisy.

    I believe that was Bush not Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    So a bounty on Maduro during bush Obama Biden was ok. But arresting him oh that's too much.... So when Clinton ordered the abduction and removal of Noriega that's fine.... But now I'm my God what .... Can we at least not look like the Republican party and seem to ooze of hypocrisy.

    I believe that was Bush not Clinton.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 5:40 PM ET #20

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    So how are we applying this stuff then, did we arrest Netty who had a warrant out for his war crimes or do we just spin the wheel of justice to those we choose that makes money for our corporations?'

    The deflect stuff means you are no better than those you so strongly despise, using one bad decision to validate another is pretty pathetic.

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    @UNIMAN

    So how are we applying this stuff then, did we arrest Netty who had a warrant out for his war crimes or do we just spin the wheel of justice to those we choose that makes money for our corporations?'

    The deflect stuff means you are no better than those you so strongly despise, using one bad decision to validate another is pretty pathetic.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  Why are you not fuming? Is this proper action that was approved from congress and does not put security of the country and our citizens at risk? If you do approve what is the rationalization in your mind for doing this? Isnt the UN supposed to make decisions like this and not the US alone?

    1: I believe Trump was right, congress would have leaked it and American soldiers would have died.

    Second, as posted above same thing with Noriega, nothing Trump did was illegal. (Unless you put it in a New York court then anything Trump does is illegal)

    Third, it appears our CIA has a strong presence in Venezuela. Knowing where and when to find drug running boats, knowing the docks they use, and now, knowing exactly where Maduro was, how to get him, and how to get out. So I have to believe the CIA knows far more and this decision was deemed necessary. And I believe our CIA and military convinced Trump to carry it out. Not Trump telling them to do it as Trump haters and even Trump lovers would believe. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  Why are you not fuming? Is this proper action that was approved from congress and does not put security of the country and our citizens at risk? If you do approve what is the rationalization in your mind for doing this? Isnt the UN supposed to make decisions like this and not the US alone?

    1: I believe Trump was right, congress would have leaked it and American soldiers would have died.

    Second, as posted above same thing with Noriega, nothing Trump did was illegal. (Unless you put it in a New York court then anything Trump does is illegal)

    Third, it appears our CIA has a strong presence in Venezuela. Knowing where and when to find drug running boats, knowing the docks they use, and now, knowing exactly where Maduro was, how to get him, and how to get out. So I have to believe the CIA knows far more and this decision was deemed necessary. And I believe our CIA and military convinced Trump to carry it out. Not Trump telling them to do it as Trump haters and even Trump lovers would believe. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 6:16 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN So how are we applying this stuff then, did we arrest Netty who had a warrant out for his war crimes or do we just spin the wheel of justice to those we choose that makes money for our corporations?' The deflect stuff means you are no better than those you so strongly despise, using one bad decision to validate another is pretty pathetic.

    Where am I deflecting??

    What bad decision?

    Noriega was a bad decision? Is Panama not far better off today? 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN So how are we applying this stuff then, did we arrest Netty who had a warrant out for his war crimes or do we just spin the wheel of justice to those we choose that makes money for our corporations?' The deflect stuff means you are no better than those you so strongly despise, using one bad decision to validate another is pretty pathetic.

    Where am I deflecting??

    What bad decision?

    Noriega was a bad decision? Is Panama not far better off today? 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 6:33 PM ET #23

    Ok regine change who does he feel will take his place.

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    Ok regine change who does he feel will take his place.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 6:36 PM ET #24

    @UNIMAN

     Oh I think the Noriega decision as it went down was very bad as I feel the Saddam decision was and the CIA Bush lie for the Gulf War was, so many bad decisions and while the GOP seems to forward these more often both parties are responsible.

    The US has no valid right or reason for what just happened and what about the war criminal Netty, when is Trump going to arrest him for the MILLIONS of lives lost based on his actions? 

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    @UNIMAN

     Oh I think the Noriega decision as it went down was very bad as I feel the Saddam decision was and the CIA Bush lie for the Gulf War was, so many bad decisions and while the GOP seems to forward these more often both parties are responsible.

    The US has no valid right or reason for what just happened and what about the war criminal Netty, when is Trump going to arrest him for the MILLIONS of lives lost based on his actions? 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2026 - 7:06 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this? You poor little innocent thing - like removing Saddam Hussein stopped the Iraq war etc.
    You poor thing.....sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @Midnight1  War? The war lasted a couple hours. Why do you think so many Venezuelans are celebrating this? You poor little innocent thing - like removing Saddam Hussein stopped the Iraq war etc.
    You poor thing.....sad

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