One other very interesting comment, watch that vid I put there and compare Obama and Trump. This guy was discussing deportation and executive orders which is similar in many ways to current day. Obama said he cannot ignore the rule of law and reach around congress via an executive order. It is so glaringly obvious the difference between an educated, experienced, respectful Obama and this piece of garbage Trump..one has full regard for the country the branches of government and laws that exist and Trump has NONE of those attributes or deep care for anyone but himself and his profiling objectives.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
One other very interesting comment, watch that vid I put there and compare Obama and Trump. This guy was discussing deportation and executive orders which is similar in many ways to current day. Obama said he cannot ignore the rule of law and reach around congress via an executive order. It is so glaringly obvious the difference between an educated, experienced, respectful Obama and this piece of garbage Trump..one has full regard for the country the branches of government and laws that exist and Trump has NONE of those attributes or deep care for anyone but himself and his profiling objectives.
So how many times did I say heckler and how many times did I not? It is your claim, so back it up.
You asked for instances of a politician being interrupted and having a question asked, I gave you EXACTLY THAT and shockingly precisely on point to the topic. How did Obama handle the interruption? How did Noem handle it, how does Trump handle it? I was not offended at how he asked his question no more than Obama was at being interrupted and in fact did you hear his response? He said the guy did not need to be removed and he turned DIRECTLY TO HIM and ADDRESSED HIM..there was no take down there was no shut up you stupid moron there was no slight to his nationality, Obama directly and respectfully addressed him. Noem needs to learn how to handle a situation she is horrible at it.
If you are not enraged, good for you..I said it SEEMS...that means from my vantage point you are grasping at minute opportunities to push a narrative, you tried with the political term you try with the poor Noem narrative, you suggested this interruption does not happen. I prove over and over the opposite, you said he did belong in that room every attempt you make I refute with precision.
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So how many times did I say heckler and how many times did I not? It is your claim, so back it up.
You asked for instances of a politician being interrupted and having a question asked, I gave you EXACTLY THAT and shockingly precisely on point to the topic. How did Obama handle the interruption? How did Noem handle it, how does Trump handle it? I was not offended at how he asked his question no more than Obama was at being interrupted and in fact did you hear his response? He said the guy did not need to be removed and he turned DIRECTLY TO HIM and ADDRESSED HIM..there was no take down there was no shut up you stupid moron there was no slight to his nationality, Obama directly and respectfully addressed him. Noem needs to learn how to handle a situation she is horrible at it.
If you are not enraged, good for you..I said it SEEMS...that means from my vantage point you are grasping at minute opportunities to push a narrative, you tried with the political term you try with the poor Noem narrative, you suggested this interruption does not happen. I prove over and over the opposite, you said he did belong in that room every attempt you make I refute with precision.
1. Did you or did you not use the word "heckler"? It's a yes or no question. You chose to use that word.
2. I asked for instances of people barging in and interrupting "press conferences". You posted video of a town hall. And to be perfectly honest, you say there are tons on instances of this. There aren't. A handful at most. And literally zero instances of someone, who isn't even a member of the press, barging in an interrupting a press conference. The issue isn't his question, or even how he asked. It's that he barged in to a press conference, and tried "to ask a question" right in the middle of her statement. That never happens.
3. You are the only one trying to cradt narratives. You do everything from misquoting posters and all printing all out falsehoods.
4. How am I supposed to know you are saying "I seen enraged" if you can't be bothered to place a comma.
And where did I say he didn't belong there? You constantly misquote.
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1. Did you or did you not use the word "heckler"? It's a yes or no question. You chose to use that word.
2. I asked for instances of people barging in and interrupting "press conferences". You posted video of a town hall. And to be perfectly honest, you say there are tons on instances of this. There aren't. A handful at most. And literally zero instances of someone, who isn't even a member of the press, barging in an interrupting a press conference. The issue isn't his question, or even how he asked. It's that he barged in to a press conference, and tried "to ask a question" right in the middle of her statement. That never happens.
3. You are the only one trying to cradt narratives. You do everything from misquoting posters and all printing all out falsehoods.
4. How am I supposed to know you are saying "I seen enraged" if you can't be bothered to place a comma.
And where did I say he didn't belong there? You constantly misquote.
Can anyone put forth an instance where a legal U.S. citizen has been detained and/or deported? Democrats are playing the race card with brown people in the same way they have played it with black people for decades. Telling ghost stories about "storm troopers" kicking down your door, snatching you out of bed, and putting you on a bus out of the country. I have heard things like, "They're targeting all brown people!" They're coming for anyone that isn't white!" The reality is they are serving warrants on people with expired visas, and on those who entered the country illegally and then skipped out on hearings. They're targeting for removal those in this country illegally. I applaud this effort. Democrats act as if they care so much about brown people but what about those that are legal citizens who have seen their neighborhoods overrun? Most Democrats talk it but they don't walk it. They are out of touch with what's actually going on in these communities. And the only brown person they know mows their lawn.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Can anyone put forth an instance where a legal U.S. citizen has been detained and/or deported? Democrats are playing the race card with brown people in the same way they have played it with black people for decades. Telling ghost stories about "storm troopers" kicking down your door, snatching you out of bed, and putting you on a bus out of the country. I have heard things like, "They're targeting all brown people!" They're coming for anyone that isn't white!" The reality is they are serving warrants on people with expired visas, and on those who entered the country illegally and then skipped out on hearings. They're targeting for removal those in this country illegally. I applaud this effort. Democrats act as if they care so much about brown people but what about those that are legal citizens who have seen their neighborhoods overrun? Most Democrats talk it but they don't walk it. They are out of touch with what's actually going on in these communities. And the only brown person they know mows their lawn.
4. I said seems, that is how you know I said it, I used the word and you are going to read it of you are going to refute it. Post 93 you suggested he did not identify himself, what does that mean to you exactly? Why would he need to identify himself in an open room with multiple people there IF he didnt belong there? I do not think after entrance he needed to do anything else, he did not need to state position and he DID belong there as anyone who was in the building does to an open room, that is the point. You seem to be suggesting that because he did not identify himself that he could be forcefully taken down or that she did not need to answer the question or that there is a fault of him not doing that, so if you feel he DID belong there then what is the purpose of identifying himself? To me that is unnecessary IF you are entering an open room in a federal building having been vetted to be in the building.
3. No clue the need for this you give no examples or context to your point.
2. I said politicians being interrupted and asking questions, THIS was a presser that was not the only qualifier I stated politicians being interrupted and asked questions, I also stated it is happening to TNC reps in local meetings, not sure the value or validity on the deflection as if a presser is different than a large organized scripted event like in the video with Obama...Noem was speaking and he asked a question which interrupted her prepared words, Obama was interrupted and asked a question when he was delivering a planned discord, we have seen multiple videos of politicians being interrupted when at a meeting where citizens are there to listen and learn, many are not standing at a pulpit they are yelling out a comment just like Padilla did, like the guy with Obama did, it happens and Noem handled it horribly and she is in leadership for the exact issue he was asking about, this is her issue and her organization it is a direct and valid question to a leader.
1. I used heckler for a reason, I think I used it once and other terms like question and strong and several other terms much more frequently, heckler is because your side views it as inappropriate or interrupting or out of place and that the guy deserved what happened to him. I do not consider him a heckler and Ive stated THAT more times than I used that word you keep using in error. I also do not consider the Obama video as a heckler, as I stated a heckler to me is not asking a direct and pertinent question usually it is making a pot shot or some noise to interrupt and be annoying not that a heckler has any purpose regarding a point or a question. So claps for you to say I used a term and I guess I have to identify MULTIPLE times why I do not consider it so and why I used the word and the context when the purpose for you hen pecking on it seems oddly wacko to me.
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4. I said seems, that is how you know I said it, I used the word and you are going to read it of you are going to refute it. Post 93 you suggested he did not identify himself, what does that mean to you exactly? Why would he need to identify himself in an open room with multiple people there IF he didnt belong there? I do not think after entrance he needed to do anything else, he did not need to state position and he DID belong there as anyone who was in the building does to an open room, that is the point. You seem to be suggesting that because he did not identify himself that he could be forcefully taken down or that she did not need to answer the question or that there is a fault of him not doing that, so if you feel he DID belong there then what is the purpose of identifying himself? To me that is unnecessary IF you are entering an open room in a federal building having been vetted to be in the building.
3. No clue the need for this you give no examples or context to your point.
2. I said politicians being interrupted and asking questions, THIS was a presser that was not the only qualifier I stated politicians being interrupted and asked questions, I also stated it is happening to TNC reps in local meetings, not sure the value or validity on the deflection as if a presser is different than a large organized scripted event like in the video with Obama...Noem was speaking and he asked a question which interrupted her prepared words, Obama was interrupted and asked a question when he was delivering a planned discord, we have seen multiple videos of politicians being interrupted when at a meeting where citizens are there to listen and learn, many are not standing at a pulpit they are yelling out a comment just like Padilla did, like the guy with Obama did, it happens and Noem handled it horribly and she is in leadership for the exact issue he was asking about, this is her issue and her organization it is a direct and valid question to a leader.
1. I used heckler for a reason, I think I used it once and other terms like question and strong and several other terms much more frequently, heckler is because your side views it as inappropriate or interrupting or out of place and that the guy deserved what happened to him. I do not consider him a heckler and Ive stated THAT more times than I used that word you keep using in error. I also do not consider the Obama video as a heckler, as I stated a heckler to me is not asking a direct and pertinent question usually it is making a pot shot or some noise to interrupt and be annoying not that a heckler has any purpose regarding a point or a question. So claps for you to say I used a term and I guess I have to identify MULTIPLE times why I do not consider it so and why I used the word and the context when the purpose for you hen pecking on it seems oddly wacko to me.
Republican Murkowski is shocked by assault on Padillo at Noem press conference. There was no need to force him onto the floor because he wasn't a threat. He was authorized to be in building and FBI escorted him to her conference. Trying to ask questions is not a crime despite Fox news gaslighting of events.
Republican Murkowski is shocked by assault on Padillo at Noem press conference. There was no need to force him onto the floor because he wasn't a threat. He was authorized to be in building and FBI escorted him to her conference. Trying to ask questions is not a crime despite Fox news gaslighting of events.
let's just take thirds post here in the spotlight.
Padillo was not a threat?? yes, he was very much a threat with the way he acted. He had a question?? F**ked up way to ask a question
Padillo was authorized to be in the building because he has an office there, and had other business there until he learned Noem was there for a presser
this is all public knowledge btw
as I stated before the hallway takedown was unnecessary and over the top, but it had ZERO to do with Noem
her crew handled it, if you want to blame after the removal point, well that has FBI all over it
let's get the facts straight before fingers are pointed
let's just take thirds post here in the spotlight.
Padillo was not a threat?? yes, he was very much a threat with the way he acted. He had a question?? F**ked up way to ask a question
Padillo was authorized to be in the building because he has an office there, and had other business there until he learned Noem was there for a presser
this is all public knowledge btw
as I stated before the hallway takedown was unnecessary and over the top, but it had ZERO to do with Noem
her crew handled it, if you want to blame after the removal point, well that has FBI all over it
let's get the facts straight before fingers are pointed
Quote Originally Posted by soup-can: she didn't ignore any question, you can't have compassion for interruption she was interrupted and kept reading so if anything negative here it falls on?? this is not a position to stand on Part of the missing piece, we don't know her briefing. I am sure there is a protocol for something like this which speaks to stop, continue, address the heckler....I mean senator.
UG, I get your question as I ask it too. I have been fair as I can't back either camp, but this one I had to call out the mod Wall. I have nothing against anyone here, but with this it needs to be fair. We can have fair discussion
Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
Quote Originally Posted by soup-can: she didn't ignore any question, you can't have compassion for interruption she was interrupted and kept reading so if anything negative here it falls on?? this is not a position to stand on Part of the missing piece, we don't know her briefing. I am sure there is a protocol for something like this which speaks to stop, continue, address the heckler....I mean senator.
UG, I get your question as I ask it too. I have been fair as I can't back either camp, but this one I had to call out the mod Wall. I have nothing against anyone here, but with this it needs to be fair. We can have fair discussion
Padillo was not a threat?? yes, he was very much a threat with the way he acted. He had a question?? F**ked up way to ask a question
Legal defense fund condemns unjustified assault on Padilla. He didn't lunge or engage in any threatening behavior. He didn't barge into room. Video shows he identified himself as senator. His polo shirt indicates he is an US senator. Contrary to disinformation from Homeland security department. Later secret service agents interviewed Padilla to discover no intention to harm Noem. So no charges filed and Padilla was released.
As senator, Padilla has every right to attend press conference to ask questions. Congressional oversight is part of his job. US constitution protects congress from arrest while performing official duties. Although Padilla hasn't yet pressed charges, there is legal basis to pursue lawsuit or tort claim because of excess force used and violation of rights. Abuse of power for Trump administration to silence dissent.
Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:
Padillo was not a threat?? yes, he was very much a threat with the way he acted. He had a question?? F**ked up way to ask a question
Legal defense fund condemns unjustified assault on Padilla. He didn't lunge or engage in any threatening behavior. He didn't barge into room. Video shows he identified himself as senator. His polo shirt indicates he is an US senator. Contrary to disinformation from Homeland security department. Later secret service agents interviewed Padilla to discover no intention to harm Noem. So no charges filed and Padilla was released.
As senator, Padilla has every right to attend press conference to ask questions. Congressional oversight is part of his job. US constitution protects congress from arrest while performing official duties. Although Padilla hasn't yet pressed charges, there is legal basis to pursue lawsuit or tort claim because of excess force used and violation of rights. Abuse of power for Trump administration to silence dissent.
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