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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2023 - 9:41 PM ET #101

    All of us .

    Because the limited time that we have in this life will again be taken up by the gratuitous pandering to our self indulgent egos that crave and love nothing more than to deal blame and give heartache .

    The world is a cartoon gentleman and you all are just the 6 year old boys watching it with your fingers in your noses .

    Enjoy the show .

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    All of us .

    Because the limited time that we have in this life will again be taken up by the gratuitous pandering to our self indulgent egos that crave and love nothing more than to deal blame and give heartache .

    The world is a cartoon gentleman and you all are just the 6 year old boys watching it with your fingers in your noses .

    Enjoy the show .

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2023 - 10:32 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @Zeus4par  Congrats on going 16-5 in college basketball. Your average juice was about -182 and one unit bets would have yielded 10.15 units won in your 16 wins. Minus the 5 loses would put your posted plays at +5.15 units. Nice job!      while constantly defending the rapist and convicted serial tax fraud who praises fascist dictators , perpetuated the big lie ,and wants to rip up our US constitution , the jealous maga troll who doesnt post a winning record in any sport posted the numbers above . he clearly struggles with simple arithmetic . lol that same uber-partisan-trump-apologist attacked fubah    speaking of chump and fux news   did u see the article where rupert murdock says sean hannity had been privately disgusted by trump for weeks but said nothing publicly bcuz hannity was terrified of losing viewers ?  that case gets public on monday !!!

    Actually +8.45 units using the same protocol for scoring that Covers uses. He's only a bit mistaken, by around  minus 40%      As for Hannity I am not surprised since he and most on FOX are gutless cowards publicly.  Still it's refreshing in one way to learn that behind the scenes they all understood what the non-MAGA-cult knows to be true. This Dominion case should be very interesting with all the revelations laid out before the public on all websites or tv channels that are not supportive of Trump fascism. WOndering if they will shape their testimonies to defend the fascist.  Not sure if the proceedings will be televised though

    That is excellent!!! And from only 21 bets!!!!

    That comes to  +.40 net units average per posted pick!!!  Nobody else on that forum (with at least 20 posted picks) comes anywhere close!!!!an_2drinks

     

    Attago Zeus! win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @Zeus4par  Congrats on going 16-5 in college basketball. Your average juice was about -182 and one unit bets would have yielded 10.15 units won in your 16 wins. Minus the 5 loses would put your posted plays at +5.15 units. Nice job!      while constantly defending the rapist and convicted serial tax fraud who praises fascist dictators , perpetuated the big lie ,and wants to rip up our US constitution , the jealous maga troll who doesnt post a winning record in any sport posted the numbers above . he clearly struggles with simple arithmetic . lol that same uber-partisan-trump-apologist attacked fubah    speaking of chump and fux news   did u see the article where rupert murdock says sean hannity had been privately disgusted by trump for weeks but said nothing publicly bcuz hannity was terrified of losing viewers ?  that case gets public on monday !!!

    Actually +8.45 units using the same protocol for scoring that Covers uses. He's only a bit mistaken, by around  minus 40%      As for Hannity I am not surprised since he and most on FOX are gutless cowards publicly.  Still it's refreshing in one way to learn that behind the scenes they all understood what the non-MAGA-cult knows to be true. This Dominion case should be very interesting with all the revelations laid out before the public on all websites or tv channels that are not supportive of Trump fascism. WOndering if they will shape their testimonies to defend the fascist.  Not sure if the proceedings will be televised though

    That is excellent!!! And from only 21 bets!!!!

    That comes to  +.40 net units average per posted pick!!!  Nobody else on that forum (with at least 20 posted picks) comes anywhere close!!!!an_2drinks

     

    Attago Zeus! win

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2023 - 10:34 PM ET #103

    Trump's buddies:

     

     

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    Trump's buddies:

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 1:04 PM ET #104

    an_police  New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:

     

    CNN NEWS CENTRAL

                with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto

     

    Decent format.  Time will tell.  an_cheers

     

     

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    an_police  New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:

     

    CNN NEWS CENTRAL

                with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto

     

    Decent format.  Time will tell.  an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 1:11 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:  

    CNN NEWS CENTRAL         

        with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto  

    Decent format.  Time will tell.

    an_clap      thumbs_up      

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:  

    CNN NEWS CENTRAL         

        with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto  

    Decent format.  Time will tell.

    an_clap      thumbs_up      

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 1:15 PM ET #106

    Yo that Kate , dogg , she’s a “ Bold One “ . I’d like to chimmichuri her steak . But I digress , looks aren’t everything , but god damn it bro , it’s not my fault that we’re programmed to procreate . It’s in our DNA .

    So I see a good looking girl and think stuff . So what ? That’s how we have 8 billion people in the world man . People think things , then they act , and if it’s reciprocated , a stork brings a baby 9 months later . Finding a woman to be hot is like the beginning of a romantic love story .

    That’s how it should be anyway . With the agreement to the fornication between consenting partners having been discussed and understood beforehand . I wish someone would have given that memo to Trump . That dirty bastard . Cuz if he raped that bookworm he should be jailed . We’re not animals man . We’re civilized . At least some of us peace_5

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    Yo that Kate , dogg , she’s a “ Bold One “ . I’d like to chimmichuri her steak . But I digress , looks aren’t everything , but god damn it bro , it’s not my fault that we’re programmed to procreate . It’s in our DNA .

    So I see a good looking girl and think stuff . So what ? That’s how we have 8 billion people in the world man . People think things , then they act , and if it’s reciprocated , a stork brings a baby 9 months later . Finding a woman to be hot is like the beginning of a romantic love story .

    That’s how it should be anyway . With the agreement to the fornication between consenting partners having been discussed and understood beforehand . I wish someone would have given that memo to Trump . That dirty bastard . Cuz if he raped that bookworm he should be jailed . We’re not animals man . We’re civilized . At least some of us peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 1:17 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:   CNN NEWS CENTRAL              with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto   Decent format.  Time will tell.

    Yeah,  it seems the days of having just one anchor hosting a one or 2 hour segment are winding down, but I do like their new setup

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:   CNN NEWS CENTRAL              with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto   Decent format.  Time will tell.

    Yeah,  it seems the days of having just one anchor hosting a one or 2 hour segment are winding down, but I do like their new setup

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 3:01 PM ET #108

    Republican Rep. Nancy Mace
    Calls Out Fellow Republicans

    "There are plenty of things that we can be doing besides
    offering prayers and silence," the South Carolina Republican said.

    Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Sunday called out her fellow
    Republican lawmakers for their “silence” on gun violence
    and “extreme” stances on abortion.

    “Every time there’s a mass shooting ? and they’re increasing
    every year ? every week, we don’t say anything. We want to
    bury our heads in the sand and hope that it goes away.
    But guess what? It’s not going away,” she added.

    “We’ve not learned anything from the midterm elections if we’re going to sit here on our hands silently, not offering any type of solution to reduce gun violence in our country.”

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    Republican Rep. Nancy Mace
    Calls Out Fellow Republicans

    "There are plenty of things that we can be doing besides
    offering prayers and silence," the South Carolina Republican said.

    Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Sunday called out her fellow
    Republican lawmakers for their “silence” on gun violence
    and “extreme” stances on abortion.

    “Every time there’s a mass shooting ? and they’re increasing
    every year ? every week, we don’t say anything. We want to
    bury our heads in the sand and hope that it goes away.
    But guess what? It’s not going away,” she added.

    “We’ve not learned anything from the midterm elections if we’re going to sit here on our hands silently, not offering any type of solution to reduce gun violence in our country.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 4:04 PM ET #109

    I know how she feels . Nobody ever offers solutions . And if they do they almost never follow through . Most people are afraid of hard work . They will do anything to avoid it . Like incessantly talking and repeating the same points over and over again instead of thinking outside of the box for once and actually attempting to make a difference . I know you understand how that feels . Right ? Oh , you’re Left . Sorry peace_5

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    I know how she feels . Nobody ever offers solutions . And if they do they almost never follow through . Most people are afraid of hard work . They will do anything to avoid it . Like incessantly talking and repeating the same points over and over again instead of thinking outside of the box for once and actually attempting to make a difference . I know you understand how that feels . Right ? Oh , you’re Left . Sorry peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 5:05 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:   CNN NEWS CENTRAL              with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto   Decent format.  Time will tell. Yeah,  it seems the days of having just one anchor hosting a one or 2 hour segment are winding down, but I do like their new setup

    progress i guess

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: New program on CNN in the 1 - 4 pm hour weekdays:   CNN NEWS CENTRAL              with Sanchez, Keilar, and Schiuto   Decent format.  Time will tell. Yeah,  it seems the days of having just one anchor hosting a one or 2 hour segment are winding down, but I do like their new setup

    progress i guess

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 8:46 PM ET #111

     

    Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US,

    with at least 162 already reported in 2023.

    It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

    The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts.

    - CNN

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    Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US,

    with at least 162 already reported in 2023.

    It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

    The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts.

    - CNN

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 8:54 PM ET #112

    Thank you for the information . Now help by doing something to stop it from happening peace_5

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    Thank you for the information . Now help by doing something to stop it from happening peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 9:09 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican Rep. Nancy Mace Calls Out Fellow Republicans "There are plenty of things that we can be doing besides offering prayers and silence," the South Carolina Republican said. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Sunday called out her fellow Republican lawmakers for their “silence” on gun violence and “extreme” stances on abortion. “Every time there’s a mass shooting ? and they’re increasing every year ? every week, we don’t say anything. We want to bury our heads in the sand and hope that it goes away. But guess what? It’s not going away,” she added. “We’ve not learned anything from the midterm elections if we’re going to sit here on our hands silently, not offering any type of solution to reduce gun violence in our country.”

    @fubah2

     Mace is not only reflective of the majority of all Americans but she is a rising voice on the moderate right

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican Rep. Nancy Mace Calls Out Fellow Republicans "There are plenty of things that we can be doing besides offering prayers and silence," the South Carolina Republican said. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Sunday called out her fellow Republican lawmakers for their “silence” on gun violence and “extreme” stances on abortion. “Every time there’s a mass shooting ? and they’re increasing every year ? every week, we don’t say anything. We want to bury our heads in the sand and hope that it goes away. But guess what? It’s not going away,” she added. “We’ve not learned anything from the midterm elections if we’re going to sit here on our hands silently, not offering any type of solution to reduce gun violence in our country.”

    @fubah2

     Mace is not only reflective of the majority of all Americans but she is a rising voice on the moderate right

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 10:13 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023.

    It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

    The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts.

    - CNN

    sensible and workable solutions have been offered   

    wont happen though

    gop will oppose everything

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023.

    It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

    The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts.

    - CNN

    sensible and workable solutions have been offered   

    wont happen though

    gop will oppose everything

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    @fubah2  Mace is not only reflective of the majority of all Americans but she is a rising voice on the moderate right

    On abortion,
    Mace said some of the stances Republicans had taken ?
    particularly in cases involving rape and incest or where t
    he mother’s life is at risk ? were “so extreme” that
    independent voters and those in the middle of the
    political spectrum “cannot support us.”

    Mace, a self-described fiscal and constitutional conservative,
    defeated a Donald Trump-backed primary challenger last year.
    She has been critical of the former president’s role
    in inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    @fubah2  Mace is not only reflective of the majority of all Americans but she is a rising voice on the moderate right

    On abortion,
    Mace said some of the stances Republicans had taken ?
    particularly in cases involving rape and incest or where t
    he mother’s life is at risk ? were “so extreme” that
    independent voters and those in the middle of the
    political spectrum “cannot support us.”

    Mace, a self-described fiscal and constitutional conservative,
    defeated a Donald Trump-backed primary challenger last year.
    She has been critical of the former president’s role
    in inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection

     
    Rush51
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 11:21 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023. It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts. - CNN sensible and workable solutions have been offered    wont happen though gop will oppose everything

    Let me guess... those solutions involve taking away a constitutional right granted to us law abiding citizens.

     

    But I suppose in your imaginary world that the criminals would give up their guns because it would be "illegal."

    Your sentence for such stupidity should be a life sentence in Chicago 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023. It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts. - CNN sensible and workable solutions have been offered    wont happen though gop will oppose everything

    Let me guess... those solutions involve taking away a constitutional right granted to us law abiding citizens.

     

    But I suppose in your imaginary world that the criminals would give up their guns because it would be "illegal."

    Your sentence for such stupidity should be a life sentence in Chicago 

     
    Rush51
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 11:25 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023. It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts. - CNN

    If you knew had to read a bar graph and also extrapolate data over 1 year , you would understand your first sentence is false... do your homework 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023. It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts. - CNN

    If you knew had to read a bar graph and also extrapolate data over 1 year , you would understand your first sentence is false... do your homework 

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 11:30 PM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    On abortion,
    Mace said some of the stances Republicans had taken 
    particularly in cases involving rape and incest or where 
    the mother’s life is at risk were “so extreme” that
    independent voters and those in the middle of the
    political spectrum “cannot support us.”

    Mace, a self-described fiscal and constitutional conservative,
    defeated a Donald Trump-backed primary challenger last year.
    She has been critical of the former president’s role
    in inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection

    @fubah2

    shes right      the vast majority of moderates and independents cant support those extreme positions    and they wont

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    On abortion,
    Mace said some of the stances Republicans had taken 
    particularly in cases involving rape and incest or where 
    the mother’s life is at risk were “so extreme” that
    independent voters and those in the middle of the
    political spectrum “cannot support us.”

    Mace, a self-described fiscal and constitutional conservative,
    defeated a Donald Trump-backed primary challenger last year.
    She has been critical of the former president’s role
    in inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection

    @fubah2

    shes right      the vast majority of moderates and independents cant support those extreme positions    and they wont

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 11:30 PM ET #119

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    On abortion,
    Mace said some of the stances Republicans had taken 
    particularly in cases involving rape and incest or where 
    the mother’s life is at risk were “so extreme” that
    independent voters and those in the middle of the
    political spectrum “cannot support us.”

    Mace, a self-described fiscal and constitutional conservative,
    defeated a Donald Trump-backed primary challenger last year.
    She has been critical of the former president’s role
    in inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection

    @fubah2

    shes right      the vast majority of moderates and independents cant support those extreme positions    and they wont

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    On abortion,
    Mace said some of the stances Republicans had taken 
    particularly in cases involving rape and incest or where 
    the mother’s life is at risk were “so extreme” that
    independent voters and those in the middle of the
    political spectrum “cannot support us.”

    Mace, a self-described fiscal and constitutional conservative,
    defeated a Donald Trump-backed primary challenger last year.
    She has been critical of the former president’s role
    in inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection

    @fubah2

    shes right      the vast majority of moderates and independents cant support those extreme positions    and they wont

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2023 - 11:55 PM ET #120

    FOX lies

    April 18: The right-wing network acknowledges it aired false claims about the 2020 election. Their repeated lies resulted in the largest publicly known defamation settlement involving a US media company in history!

    - CNN

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    FOX lies

    April 18: The right-wing network acknowledges it aired false claims about the 2020 election. Their repeated lies resulted in the largest publicly known defamation settlement involving a US media company in history!

    - CNN

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    those solutions involve taking away a constitutional right granted to us law abiding citizens.   But I suppose in your imaginary world that the criminals would give up their guns because it would be "illegal."

    Gun control doesn't prevent law abiding citizens from acquiring or keeping guns.  But easier for criminals to obtain guns because of weak gun control.  In the US, states with stronger gun control tend to have lower rates of gun violence than states with weak gun control.  For example, California suicide and homicide rates are far lower than the national average.  If US has California gun death rate in 2020, over 16,000 lives could be saved.   Every state with lower gun death rates have gun control as strict or stricter than California according to University of California study.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    those solutions involve taking away a constitutional right granted to us law abiding citizens.   But I suppose in your imaginary world that the criminals would give up their guns because it would be "illegal."

    Gun control doesn't prevent law abiding citizens from acquiring or keeping guns.  But easier for criminals to obtain guns because of weak gun control.  In the US, states with stronger gun control tend to have lower rates of gun violence than states with weak gun control.  For example, California suicide and homicide rates are far lower than the national average.  If US has California gun death rate in 2020, over 16,000 lives could be saved.   Every state with lower gun death rates have gun control as strict or stricter than California according to University of California study.

     
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    More truth...

    MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace told “Late Show” host Stephen Colbert
    what really scares her about the Republican Party following its
    capitulation to disgraced former President Donald Trump.

    an_light  Wallace, who served as WH communications director
    under former President George W. Bush, described herself as
    a “self-loathing former Republican.”


    She lamented how the GOP today isn’t even trying to spin events
    and is now just built on a foundation of Bullsh*t  . . .

    an_police

        “They are so far from the truth  that you can no longer
        have a conversation with them about how to solve
        anything because they won’t agree on what the problems
        are!!!”   the former republican said.

        an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap

    Reply

    More truth...

    MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace told “Late Show” host Stephen Colbert
    what really scares her about the Republican Party following its
    capitulation to disgraced former President Donald Trump.

    an_light  Wallace, who served as WH communications director
    under former President George W. Bush, described herself as
    a “self-loathing former Republican.”


    She lamented how the GOP today isn’t even trying to spin events
    and is now just built on a foundation of Bullsh*t  . . .

    an_police

        “They are so far from the truth  that you can no longer
        have a conversation with them about how to solve
        anything because they won’t agree on what the problems
        are!!!”   the former republican said.

        an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2023 - 2:20 PM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: too bad 1 of those cheerleaders wasn't fully armed to the hilt.So they could of been the "good guy with a gun",as a solution to the problem.

    Delusion that armed individuals and not the state, represent the ultimate guarantee of safety and freedom. Stanford University study found that states that pass right to carry gun laws saw 15% increase in violent crime.

    Thanks Thirdperson!  peace_5  Very interesting study results to say the least!

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: too bad 1 of those cheerleaders wasn't fully armed to the hilt.So they could of been the "good guy with a gun",as a solution to the problem.

    Delusion that armed individuals and not the state, represent the ultimate guarantee of safety and freedom. Stanford University study found that states that pass right to carry gun laws saw 15% increase in violent crime.

    Thanks Thirdperson!  peace_5  Very interesting study results to say the least!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2023 - 6:38 PM ET #124

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023. It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts. - CNN If you had to read a bar graph and also extrapolate data over several year s, you would understand your first sentence is spot on

    sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Mass shootings have escalated to a record pace in the US, with at least 162 already reported in 2023. It has been a week since the deadly mass shooting at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and there have been more than a dozen since, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The devastating frequency means more and more people are directly affected, and the general public is regularly exposed to the indirect impacts. - CNN If you had to read a bar graph and also extrapolate data over several year s, you would understand your first sentence is spot on

    sad

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2023 - 6:40 PM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican Rep. Nancy Mace Calls Out Fellow Republicans "There are plenty of things that we can be doing besides offering prayers and silence," the South Carolina Republican said. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Sunday called out her fellow Republican lawmakers for their “silence” on gun violence and “extreme” stances on abortion. “Every time there’s a mass shooting ? and they’re increasing every year ? every week, we don’t say anything. We want to bury our heads in the sand and hope that it goes away. But guess what? It’s not going away,” she added. “We’ve not learned anything from the midterm elections if we’re going to sit here on our hands silently, not offering any type of solution to reduce gun violence in our country.”

    a voice that needs to b heard on this issue 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Republican Rep. Nancy Mace Calls Out Fellow Republicans "There are plenty of things that we can be doing besides offering prayers and silence," the South Carolina Republican said. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Sunday called out her fellow Republican lawmakers for their “silence” on gun violence and “extreme” stances on abortion. “Every time there’s a mass shooting ? and they’re increasing every year ? every week, we don’t say anything. We want to bury our heads in the sand and hope that it goes away. But guess what? It’s not going away,” she added. “We’ve not learned anything from the midterm elections if we’re going to sit here on our hands silently, not offering any type of solution to reduce gun violence in our country.”

    a voice that needs to b heard on this issue 

     

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