Schumer shutdown continues to endanger Americans

@THEMUGG

Yes.  But what takes it into the emotional and irrational part is that they will insist illegals are not hurting the economy and that they are not taking more than they are giving, etc.

But when presented with black and white numbers that show this to be the case, they stick to it.  Because they will not allow facts to deter them from what they really want to believe to be true.

@THEMUGG

 What could possibly lead someone to think that way? Hate America & Americans? Or is it just that their hate for Trump is so strong that it clouds any sense of logic? 

I think a lot of folks have been this way long before Trump got into politics.  Sure, their hatred of him has added to it.

But look at any of the '80/20' things or some of the facts that prove any of the narrative-driven pet-projects do not work.  

These have nothing to do with who is in office at the time.

This is where kids are being indoctrinated in school and adults through the various media sources.  These folks have not been taught to critically examine issues on both sides for themselves.

They are taught to just believe someone because they say it from an authority-sounding platform.

@THEMUGG

 Easy answer but you wont like it because you and Raiders share partisan views but the answer to your question is simple. Correlation is not causation. Your focus is on illegals that BIDEN LET IN which is false and misleading and discriminatory. Your side and Trump especially have turned brown skin into a vote grab and his trowel mouth shows this. Nothing further than the eating cats and dogs needs to be stated but there are many more examples of this and the way ICE is trolling skin color is a fact and is fascist nonsense.

Your side and you especially try to portray the brown skin and Biden and illegals as to the woes of your life and the difference with ME and most of those nasty liberals per you is that I am concerned with CRIME and abuse not skin color or creating a fake narrative about the border.

On that topic what is going on with the border anyway? I think Mr 5 minute attention span left that topic long ago and moved to other brown skinned pastures like Minny or Ohio or Home Depot parking lot any possible way to irradicate America from the scourge of the brown skin. I am more concerned with crime and abuse but that includes white doods so that does not fit your narrative.

The TNC is not about crime or social protection it and you are about blame pointing, vote grab and debasing minorities. The nasty DEMS do not agree with your viewpoint and that is the issue.

@wallstreetcappers

  Your denial of reality isn't convincing......& your trying to make it a racial issue doesn't help. Not every one of the millions that crossed over during Biden's free-for-all were "brown". You should probably be boxed for your tone.

@THEMUGG

 Ok lets use your logic in reverse to prove a point.

Guns kill people, get rid of the guns and remove them from society and we all live happily ever after.

Does this correlation/causation work with you? We know the answer and the border being open equating to the woes of your existence is the same. 

The existence of guns does kill people and that truth has literal figure based statistics that cannot be denied, so do you like correlation causation or just when it fits your partisan narrative?

If you were to seal up the border and call it the GREATEST WALL TRUMP EVER BUILT then guess what, human nature still exists and crime drugs etc still happen. Its the Dr.Seuss proof that you cannot change human nature even if you remove the stars and try to segregate it means nothing. 

Your Biden illegals blame is weak and ineffective to the same degree you will retort a GUN correlation argument. 

So on that topic how goes the GREATEST WALL EVER BUILT? Is it about finished and under budget?

@wallstreetcappers

  That's a sideways look at one part of the problem. We've already seen that when criminals are allowed to roam free, they will commit crimes, some violent or deadly. Eliminating guns would just reduce the choice of weapons. You seem to be under the delusion that EVERYONE that crosses into this country is here to help. Did you ever consider many are here to just take advantage of our system? Like Tony Montana said, "this place is just a big box waiting to get fucked". You need to realize that the lib soft-on-crime stance is like an invitation to people all over the world to come here & do as they will. What consequences? You're against capital punishment because, you stated, "even one mistake is too many". But millions of unknowns pouring into this country is, meh, OK.....they're not all bad......they're just here to build a better life..........but at who's expense? Do you NOT understand how silly that sounds? 

@THEMUGG

 So do you accept correlation/causation for the border topic only because it fits your partisan narrative but not when it comes to guns? Its the same. Your border crime woe is me narrative is exactly the same as gun death and harm. 

Your retort about weapons kill and there is some other weapon is actually my exact point. The border being closed is not going to eliminate crime, removing all the brown bad guys wont change crime just in the same way that you claim guns are a weapon and there are other weapons if you remove them and the horse manure about protection from government. 

Can you update us on the big beautiful border wall status? How much is built and staffed and how much is left, this was the most important partisan pillar Trump used to sucker you guys into voting for him so given it was the MOST important thing there has to be progress now that we are 15 months into the fascist regime.

Let me know...

Legal experts say Trump order to pay TSA agents is illegal.  Violation of US constitution to divert border security funds for purposes not authorized by congress.  Unanimous senate bill that House speaker Johnson calls a joke is so far the best bipartisan solution.  Similar to democrats proposal separating controversial ICE and CBP funding from the rest of homeland security funding.

@wallstreetcappers

  The fascist regime ended when Biden left office.

@THEMUGG

 See that is the interesting thing because to you DEI and trans and all that is fascist so you consider Biden a fascist for forwarding equality for a very very small minority and that is because you did not agree with equality and representation for that group. I would imagine if your parents were like you they thought MLK was a fascist too for forwarding equal rights for African Americans and that womens rights was also forwarded by the liberal fascist left...that is how you think.

Those nasty liberals are not calling Trump a fascist for his Christian/Israel white male agenda even though that is the same as what you are bashing Biden about. Libs those nasty DEMS are calling him a fascist for the way he usurps power from our government and eliminates congress on a regular basis.

But on that other note it is disgusting and abhorrent to see the Defense Secretary preaching zionism Christianity in a sickening way and alienating our allies because he also is a bully like Trump and considers those who are not kissing his boots as deserving of insults and reprimand. 

Big difference...but to you since you are partisan and white male it seems on point.

@wallstreetcappers

  If I said what you just said, you would box me. But I have no recourse.

"The DHS shutdown is not our fault...and we'll keep it shut down until our demands are met!"

@THEMUGG

 Box for what? Saying you consider DEI to be fascist? Or that using this logic would mean other minorities over time have faced the exact same thing? What is wrong with saying that?

How about you say what was fascist about Biden then if it wasnt DEI? You are able to post more than a single line and have a discussion. Ive seen you bash Biden for DEI many times in the past, you do it regularly so that is what I based my reply on, your words. 

My historical comments should not be offensive, that is how MANY people felt, many people who are white and many many who are male thus the African American and women specific wording. I will agree with you the pretense that minorities are repressed and pushed down IS repulsive and disgusting, same goes for LGBT groups.

Well the TNC has decided to chain lots of departments and groups to their ICE cause, so given that the DEMS are not going along with the entire bucket o fun how can you say it is inaccurate?

Yep.  Too many things they keep tied together.  
So many of these things should be stand alone issues.  

This is done all the time by both parties....they tie so many things in bills to get them passed....it's done intentionally, so this is nothing new....

Yes.  They do it to have a little bit of give and take.  "We want this and you want this, so we can both be happy", sort of thing.

But the main problem is that there are "so many things in bills".  There should not be.  They do too much now as it is.

Additionally, some things are too important to have other things alongside them.  

Whatever party wants something important passed should have it as a standalone issue.  Otherwise, you 'force' people to vote against something they want because they do not want to be seen as 'voting' for something they are against, etc.