Minny fraud

Ice agents grabbed a white priest off the street cause he was there protesting in Minnesota and while they had him in lockup, they kept asking him if he was afraid over and over again. They endured letting him go with an agent saying your white, so you wouldn't be any fun to them. These ice agents are sick sucker's and the longer this behavior goes on the harder it will be to stop trumps goon force

Fraud investigations looming for WA & Ohio.

@THEMUGG

 I don't believe you..... Washington?  Yes.  But Ohio?  Ohio is a RED State therefore it cannot be investigated for fraud because "they" only investigate fraud in Blue States.... sorry, I don't make the rules, I'm only sharing them as they have been presented in this cesspool..... 

oh my

Check out the # of people convicted for fraud that have been pardoned by Fiberace.

While you're at it, check out the members of Congress who unnecessarily received PPP loans that have been forgiven.

Fraud is all around us & if you have the money, you can easily give Donnie Fatso a donation for your freedom.

yup if they want to find real fraud, just look in the white house for fraud

Minnesota is the norm rather than the exception in fraud.  During pandemic emergency, many countries decided that providing financial assistance quickly to population was more important than safeguards to prevent fraud.

@thirdperson

 Minnesota is the norm rather than the exception in fraud.

Minnesota fraud is the "norm".  Yes, I think we all agree that the shit in Minny is going to be exposed in other places.  There is rampant widespread fraud across the board and it shouldn't matter where it comes from.  My red/blue comment was obviously tongue in cheek and regardless of State it should be investigated and prosecuted as needed.  If Ohio is actually next on the list that is a good sign.  

I know people like to hate on what DOGE did early on before Trump dismantled it but has anyone ever considered that some of what was discovered is directly related to these mass level fraud systems and now investigations?  It is too early to tell but it will be interesting to see how it all plays out over the next several years.  As some have pointed out, there will likely be people who "pay for their pardons" before 2028 expires but if the fraud systems are found and dismantled that would be a nice "base expectation".    

 Now they're lookin into Dept. of Educ. in some of these states......

Interesting that MSP, in the midst of a massive fraud scandal, is the only "sanctuary city" that has local leaders (& Gov.) constantly egging on their constituents to go out & harass ICE agents.

 Anger? Embarrassment? Deflection? All of the above?

Isnt that similar to what the colonists did, what African Americans did what women did which is go protest when you feel there is fascism and abuses taking place? You frame it as harass but to those being abused it is standing up for what you feel is right and protesting. ICE has no place being there and what these citizens are doing is squarely in the rights and freedoms every US citizen has.

@wallstreetcappers

 Who is being "abused"?

@THEMUGG

 I think that depends on your partisan slant. To you ICE is doing their job because that is what Trump and Noem and the TNC tell you, I see their presence as unnecessary as excessive as abusive. There are several people who died there and I see that as abusive and I see that as overreach. I see that as people who are not properly trained who have no protocol and have no feeling of restraint or accountability being abusive when there are multiple alternative solutions and ways to handle this situation.

To me it is 100% abusive and I am surprised it has not been worse from a citizen perspective, to me these citizens are acting better than I would anticipate given the way Trump handled this and his fascist aggressive bull approach. There has been absolutely no attempt from the TNC to work with the state and local authorities and to listen to those living and working there, Trump stormed in and has done pretty much everything in the exact opposite way it should be handled. The FEDS should SUPPORT local efforts not trample and abuse as we see happening.

Magas will never accept the things you just wrote, its truly not in their DNA to look at things differently then their own thoughts and thats because they really dont care what others think and believe. There is zero middle ground for these folks.

@wallstreetcappers

  I don't entirely agree with this approach to deporting illegals. It seems a bit extreme to me. But the root cause of it is the results of the Biden admins. actions. Let's face it, if they hadn't opened up our border to millions & then literally lied about it to the country, none of this would be going on right now, ie one extreme measure led to the current extreme measure.

 And to reiterate, this particular area is the only one that has chosen to resist the efforts, which leads one to reason that it's act of frustration/deflection for being caught stealing.

@THEMUGG

 It doesnt matter even if you think Biden is to blame, that is not an excuse for the entire platform Trump has decided to take which is to dominate and control based on what HE wants, this goes completely against the framework of this country and what your political party allegedly forwards which is that the FEDS support the states, that the status quo is that states make decisions and actions that it is up to the states and the FEDS are not involved unless the state asks for their participation.

Trump likes states rights narrative when it helps him and he could give two craps about it when it goes against his agenda. You cannot support states rights and suggest in any fashion that this is the platform and then go along with his ICE fascist attacks with no involvement or collab with states, and that is exactly what we have seen since he took over. States that AGREE with him are ok but if they do not Trump does not respect and uphold states rights.

Face it, Trump is not GOP he is 100% TNC and either you agree with it or you will be trampled, sued, jailed or killed.

@THEMUGG

 I don't entirely agree with this approach to deporting illegals.

I asked him before and never got an answer.  I have asked others in person and never got anything coherent.  

So, I ask you a sincere question:  how would you do it?

@Raiders22

 This is not accurate at all, why do you misquote and misrepresent like this over and over?

The approach the TNC has is wrong from its foundation and without the proper framework and foundation there really cannot be a real discussion. 

Do you care more about respect, order and safety for the general citizen or do you care about quotas and agendas which erroneously claim to be forwarding "deportation"?

Deportation is not a one day, one week, one month, one year, one decade event. Are we interested in flushing everything brown and hope that we catch a few of the bad ones and many of the good ones? Is the agenda and generalized approach being blunt and ineffective what we are wanting to pursue?

I do not think you or any of the TNC really want to properly pursue deportation because there is no SPLASH with proper implementation of mid to long term strategy for true removal of those people illegal that we do not want here. For Trump and anyone who supports his agenda it is chaotic, buck shot, thought of the moment approach because you cannot have a plan in place within a few months and they aggressively attack as the TNC has done, that is not a proper plan. A proper plan takes state and local engagement it takes funding it takes infrastructure it takes methodical and slow moving actions to do the most good and the least harm. None of what the TNC has forwarded is about removing illegals because there is a total lack of comprehensive plan or strategy, when Trump is asked there has NEVER been a plan laid out and fine points made it is generalizations and we are getting to it and we will have a wonderful plan but a total lack of any comprehensive strategy.

My view is to completely STOP what Trump is doing, admit failure and take time to develop a plan which has buy in from state and local groups that is funded and has infrastructure and has a LONG horizon. This is Trump 1.0 border fiasco rinse and repeat...no plan no strategy no timeline no implementation just blow horn yelling and we wonder why we are here right now in this position.

@wallstreetcappers

This is not accurate at all, why do you misquote and misrepresent like this over and over?

What do you mean?  What is ‘not accurate’?

Every single word you stated. None of what you said is accurate or maybe it is that you fail to read replies and content that does not agree with your partisan agenda. Its intentionally comical that I address your false comments and then the very next message you just parrot yourself again completely intentionally ignoring what was written.

@wallstreetcappers

  I didn’t ‘quote’ anything, for one thing.  

So, that was not wrong. 
You also did not answer it when I asked it.  Simply go back and read it. 
So, that was not wrong either. 
Nothing I said was wrong at all. 

As I stated in the other thread the whole problem is those who aided and abetted mass illegal immigration (far bigger than just Biden) ( and for political gain) are now breaking the law to prevent deportations. Somehow they think they don't have to abide by federal law. They've gotten away with it before so it's a shock when the feds don't back down. We will stomp and scream and you go away. 

NO. It's not going to happen.

@wallstreetcappers

 This is the original question that you never answered, if you would like to go back and read you reply about it.  

@wallstreetcappers

 You keep saying this as if it makes a point?

Let’s assume it does. 
So, how would you do it?

What would be your plan to get rid of all of the illegals?