Ukraine secretly delivered FPV drones and wooden mobile cabins into Russia. The drones were hidden under the roofs of the cabins which were later mounted on trucks.
At the signal, the roofs were opened up remotely. Dozens of drones were launched directly from the trucks striking & destroying strategic Russian aircraft. Zelensky planned all this without the use of SIGNAL.
Looks like Zelensky did have a card or two to play. Take that Prince Trumperdink.
Vlady just got kicked in the balls!
We're talking Trojan Horse deception here.
Ukraine secretly delivered FPV drones and wooden mobile cabins into Russia. The drones were hidden under the roofs of the cabins which were later mounted on trucks.
At the signal, the roofs were opened up remotely. Dozens of drones were launched directly from the trucks striking & destroying strategic Russian aircraft. Zelensky planned all this without the use of SIGNAL.
Looks like Zelensky did have a card or two to play. Take that Prince Trumperdink.
Is the goal to move towards an end to this situation? If so these decisions are not moving in that direction and I do not see how the Ukrainian leadership is truly interested in a mutual agreement when they are offensively attacking Russia, in fact I would say these sort of events will do the exact opposite. The longer these type of decisions keep playing out the more innocent lives that will be lost and the more cash is drained from the US and the EU since Zelensky is non-stop Jerry Lewis telethoning the world to get more money to buy more weapons.
@Midnight1
Is the goal to move towards an end to this situation? If so these decisions are not moving in that direction and I do not see how the Ukrainian leadership is truly interested in a mutual agreement when they are offensively attacking Russia, in fact I would say these sort of events will do the exact opposite. The longer these type of decisions keep playing out the more innocent lives that will be lost and the more cash is drained from the US and the EU since Zelensky is non-stop Jerry Lewis telethoning the world to get more money to buy more weapons.
You call out uniman for being on this site to stir things up...What exactly do you offer to this forum? Really, maybe you should read many of your post that just insult, attack, and name call anybody that doesn't think like you. So I will ask again:
What exactly do you bring to this forum other then insults and to stir things up?
@cd329
You call out uniman for being on this site to stir things up...What exactly do you offer to this forum? Really, maybe you should read many of your post that just insult, attack, and name call anybody that doesn't think like you. So I will ask again:
What exactly do you bring to this forum other then insults and to stir things up?
@Midnight1 Is the goal to move towards an end to this situation? If so these decisions are not moving in that direction and I do not see how the Ukrainian leadership is truly interested in a mutual agreement when they are offensively attacking Russia, in fact I would say these sort of events will do the exact opposite. The longer these type of decisions keep playing out the more innocent lives that will be lost and the more cash is drained from the US and the EU since Zelensky is non-stop Jerry Lewis telethoning the world to get more money to buy more weapons.
If he can't get Putin to the negotiating table, what is Zelensky to do? When Putin bombs schools, hospitals & apartment buildings, what is Zelensky to do? When Putin calls for a cease fire & then breaks the cease fire prematurely, what is Zelensky to do?
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@Midnight1 Is the goal to move towards an end to this situation? If so these decisions are not moving in that direction and I do not see how the Ukrainian leadership is truly interested in a mutual agreement when they are offensively attacking Russia, in fact I would say these sort of events will do the exact opposite. The longer these type of decisions keep playing out the more innocent lives that will be lost and the more cash is drained from the US and the EU since Zelensky is non-stop Jerry Lewis telethoning the world to get more money to buy more weapons.
If he can't get Putin to the negotiating table, what is Zelensky to do? When Putin bombs schools, hospitals & apartment buildings, what is Zelensky to do? When Putin calls for a cease fire & then breaks the cease fire prematurely, what is Zelensky to do?
Well for sure doing these drone schemes is not moving towards the bargaining table. I do not think he is interested in an agreement, if this were his interest he would work more at moving to the bargaining table and less panhandling for cash and weapons to the US and EU and anyone else who will give to him.
I actually agree with Trump on the funding terms, if Z wants more BILLIONS then they need to sign over rights for their resources to pay for the weapons and cash. He did not seem interested in making a deal so I hope the US does not fund them going forward, we have spent money we do not have and it cannot be one sided based on a silly threat about Russia invading other areas, I find that reason to be so off base it is laughable.
@Midnight1
Well for sure doing these drone schemes is not moving towards the bargaining table. I do not think he is interested in an agreement, if this were his interest he would work more at moving to the bargaining table and less panhandling for cash and weapons to the US and EU and anyone else who will give to him.
I actually agree with Trump on the funding terms, if Z wants more BILLIONS then they need to sign over rights for their resources to pay for the weapons and cash. He did not seem interested in making a deal so I hope the US does not fund them going forward, we have spent money we do not have and it cannot be one sided based on a silly threat about Russia invading other areas, I find that reason to be so off base it is laughable.
I don't think Z expects anything but grief from the US as it appears we have changed our allegiance to him in the middle of the war. He has turned to the EU who are willing & able give him the support he needs.
It's being reported this attack has been planned for over a year & with talks of peace "on hold", the decision was made to dismantle as many aircraft as possible to reduce the number of attacks made on his country & civilians.
As far as the "silly threat" of invading other areas, I haven't heard of any plans to do so. I believe Putin did not expect the resolve of the Ukrainian people & thought they would roll over in a few days. That has been proven to be a big mistake. He is no longer capable of threatening others & peace will be difficult for as long as he's in power & the biggest obstacle to the war ending.
@wallstreetcappers
I don't think Z expects anything but grief from the US as it appears we have changed our allegiance to him in the middle of the war. He has turned to the EU who are willing & able give him the support he needs.
It's being reported this attack has been planned for over a year & with talks of peace "on hold", the decision was made to dismantle as many aircraft as possible to reduce the number of attacks made on his country & civilians.
As far as the "silly threat" of invading other areas, I haven't heard of any plans to do so. I believe Putin did not expect the resolve of the Ukrainian people & thought they would roll over in a few days. That has been proven to be a big mistake. He is no longer capable of threatening others & peace will be difficult for as long as he's in power & the biggest obstacle to the war ending.
The problem with you guys are you have never dealt with Russia (for real) - they don’t function like normal human beings - they are literally insane (always have been) - they interfere in everything even down to your guys election - they kill diplomats in different countries - they have already sent their fleet to interfere with an exercise by NATO - right now there are only two countries that are insane enough to go for world dominance if they had the military power to do so: North Korea and Russia ! Ukraine is not doing this for fun - Russia won’t stop before they have all the countries they had when they were the Sovjet Union (and they don’t respect sanctions or deals that are made)
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
The problem with you guys are you have never dealt with Russia (for real) - they don’t function like normal human beings - they are literally insane (always have been) - they interfere in everything even down to your guys election - they kill diplomats in different countries - they have already sent their fleet to interfere with an exercise by NATO - right now there are only two countries that are insane enough to go for world dominance if they had the military power to do so: North Korea and Russia ! Ukraine is not doing this for fun - Russia won’t stop before they have all the countries they had when they were the Sovjet Union (and they don’t respect sanctions or deals that are made)
You don’t have to help us - it isn’t like Ukraine is part of NATO or anything - but since you deliberately has made us depended on you for 80 years (by design - so you could control the world and make us buy all your overpriced military junk) it would be nice if you at least didn’t work against us - by shutting down star link for Ukraine etc. - I know you are egocentric idiots - but maybe you could hide it a little
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
You don’t have to help us - it isn’t like Ukraine is part of NATO or anything - but since you deliberately has made us depended on you for 80 years (by design - so you could control the world and make us buy all your overpriced military junk) it would be nice if you at least didn’t work against us - by shutting down star link for Ukraine etc. - I know you are egocentric idiots - but maybe you could hide it a little
The issue for me and I am not a Trumpster nor a fan of military excess, but the issue for me is if even ONE IOTA of suggestion that Russia was doing a single thing, the US would be on the scene in seconds, if anything Trump would be more assertive than Biden with regards to taking military action...that is not a good thing but I would say Trump is much more pro-military than Biden was.
I just do not see any scenario that Russia would even consider moving further than this table as their military is not historically strong and they are not equipped to engage Russia and Germany and the EU...I do not see this even in the universe of possibility. I think this approach is used as a toy for Z to go seek more money, the threat has been paying and I think it is a rouse.
@Calde13
The issue for me and I am not a Trumpster nor a fan of military excess, but the issue for me is if even ONE IOTA of suggestion that Russia was doing a single thing, the US would be on the scene in seconds, if anything Trump would be more assertive than Biden with regards to taking military action...that is not a good thing but I would say Trump is much more pro-military than Biden was.
I just do not see any scenario that Russia would even consider moving further than this table as their military is not historically strong and they are not equipped to engage Russia and Germany and the EU...I do not see this even in the universe of possibility. I think this approach is used as a toy for Z to go seek more money, the threat has been paying and I think it is a rouse.
@Calde13 The issue for me and I am not a Trumpster nor a fan of military excess, but the issue for me is if even ONE IOTA of suggestion that Russia was doing a single thing, the US would be on the scene in seconds, if anything Trump would be more assertive than Biden with regards to taking military action...that is not a good thing but I would say Trump is much more pro-military than Biden was. I just do not see any scenario that Russia would even consider moving further than this table as their military is not historically strong and they are not equipped to engage Russia and Germany and the EU...I do not see this even in the universe of possibility. I think this approach is used as a toy for Z to go seek more money, the threat has been paying and I think it is a rouse.
I would have no problem with it being like it is now - you guys give us access to star link etc. and we (EU) sets the rules and pay the money - it is us that has to deal with Russia now and in the future - and it is us that has seen what they are capable of doing - we were first “free” from them in 1989 - it isn’t for fun Finland has 1 million soldiers in reserve out of a population of 5 million
- but you are correct that if you deduct nuclear weapons Russia wouldn’t have any chance at all (not even versus EU alone) - but don’t expect logic like that would detour them from trying - and they basically only have to take one of the small “unimportant” countries that are part of NATO - for the entire organisation being tested - and if it doesn’t answer to the agression - NATO as an alliance would die that exact date
But Trumps entire actions about Ukraine shows he doesn’t care rather this war ends or not - he cares who is the one to solve it
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@Calde13 The issue for me and I am not a Trumpster nor a fan of military excess, but the issue for me is if even ONE IOTA of suggestion that Russia was doing a single thing, the US would be on the scene in seconds, if anything Trump would be more assertive than Biden with regards to taking military action...that is not a good thing but I would say Trump is much more pro-military than Biden was. I just do not see any scenario that Russia would even consider moving further than this table as their military is not historically strong and they are not equipped to engage Russia and Germany and the EU...I do not see this even in the universe of possibility. I think this approach is used as a toy for Z to go seek more money, the threat has been paying and I think it is a rouse.
I would have no problem with it being like it is now - you guys give us access to star link etc. and we (EU) sets the rules and pay the money - it is us that has to deal with Russia now and in the future - and it is us that has seen what they are capable of doing - we were first “free” from them in 1989 - it isn’t for fun Finland has 1 million soldiers in reserve out of a population of 5 million
- but you are correct that if you deduct nuclear weapons Russia wouldn’t have any chance at all (not even versus EU alone) - but don’t expect logic like that would detour them from trying - and they basically only have to take one of the small “unimportant” countries that are part of NATO - for the entire organisation being tested - and if it doesn’t answer to the agression - NATO as an alliance would die that exact date
But Trumps entire actions about Ukraine shows he doesn’t care rather this war ends or not - he cares who is the one to solve it
@cd329 You call out uniman for being on this site to stir things up...What exactly do you offer to this forum? Really, maybe you should read many of your post that just insult, attack, and name call anybody that doesn't think like you. So I will ask again: What exactly do you bring to this forum other then insults and to stir things up?
This post sure looks like an alias for Uniman. 112 posts since 2016 and you come to the rescue of one person out of all the members on this site. Yup,hello Uniman. Are you using a VPN?
Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:
@cd329 You call out uniman for being on this site to stir things up...What exactly do you offer to this forum? Really, maybe you should read many of your post that just insult, attack, and name call anybody that doesn't think like you. So I will ask again: What exactly do you bring to this forum other then insults and to stir things up?
This post sure looks like an alias for Uniman. 112 posts since 2016 and you come to the rescue of one person out of all the members on this site. Yup,hello Uniman. Are you using a VPN?
And in an all out war if Trump is still leader - you guys would side with Russia and China over EU - EU stands for everything Trump hates : Rules, order, slowness and regulations - doesn’t go well with the way he likes conducting business - where it is two all mighty men that can make deals with each other (not having to ask anyone for permission - so he likes dictatorships)
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
And in an all out war if Trump is still leader - you guys would side with Russia and China over EU - EU stands for everything Trump hates : Rules, order, slowness and regulations - doesn’t go well with the way he likes conducting business - where it is two all mighty men that can make deals with each other (not having to ask anyone for permission - so he likes dictatorships)
Ohh and it is also easier to convince you that you live in the greatest nation on earth and keep you hostage if EU wasn’t there - because if you made EU a dictatorship under Russian rule - there are like 2-3 countries left that might be as good as you - most of the countries right now better than you in quality of life metrics are European, only Canada and Australia being the outlier
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
Ohh and it is also easier to convince you that you live in the greatest nation on earth and keep you hostage if EU wasn’t there - because if you made EU a dictatorship under Russian rule - there are like 2-3 countries left that might be as good as you - most of the countries right now better than you in quality of life metrics are European, only Canada and Australia being the outlier
@Calde13 The issue for me and I am not a Trumpster nor a fan of military excess, but the issue for me is if even ONE IOTA of suggestion that Russia was doing a single thing, the US would be on the scene in seconds, if anything Trump would be more assertive than Biden with regards to taking military action...that is not a good thing but I would say Trump is much more pro-military than Biden was. I just do not see any scenario that Russia would even consider moving further than this table as their military is not historically strong and they are not equipped to engage Russia and Germany and the EU...I do not see this even in the universe of possibility. I think this approach is used as a toy for Z to go seek more money, the threat has been paying and I think it is a rouse.
This. So can we please stop with the 1) Putin wants to push further into the EU, and 2) The US would leave Europe high and dry, narratives. I think it has been made painstakingly clear that Putin had his hands full with just Ukraine.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@Calde13 The issue for me and I am not a Trumpster nor a fan of military excess, but the issue for me is if even ONE IOTA of suggestion that Russia was doing a single thing, the US would be on the scene in seconds, if anything Trump would be more assertive than Biden with regards to taking military action...that is not a good thing but I would say Trump is much more pro-military than Biden was. I just do not see any scenario that Russia would even consider moving further than this table as their military is not historically strong and they are not equipped to engage Russia and Germany and the EU...I do not see this even in the universe of possibility. I think this approach is used as a toy for Z to go seek more money, the threat has been paying and I think it is a rouse.
This. So can we please stop with the 1) Putin wants to push further into the EU, and 2) The US would leave Europe high and dry, narratives. I think it has been made painstakingly clear that Putin had his hands full with just Ukraine.
@cd329 Who am I...First you called my knockonwood and now I am Uniman. You are as confused as Biden.
Lmfaoooooooooooo knockwood you have always not been very bright and you just got hustled. I posted that cause i knew exactly what your next move was gonna be. Must drive you crazy that you cant post here under the name knockwood, lmfaoooooo.
Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:
@cd329 Who am I...First you called my knockonwood and now I am Uniman. You are as confused as Biden.
Lmfaoooooooooooo knockwood you have always not been very bright and you just got hustled. I posted that cause i knew exactly what your next move was gonna be. Must drive you crazy that you cant post here under the name knockwood, lmfaoooooo.
if you made EU a dictatorship under Russian rule - there are like 2-3 countries left that might be as good as you - most of the countries right now better than you in quality of life metrics are European, only Canada and Australia being the outlier
Best countries to live in tend to be democratic countries. Problem is that there are too many authoritarian countries in the world. But with Trump threatening to abandon Ukraine and NATO, Europeans should be worried about long term threat of Russia. Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. After years of rebuilding military, possible risk of Russia continuing its imperial ambition. The unthinkable is not impossible.
Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:
if you made EU a dictatorship under Russian rule - there are like 2-3 countries left that might be as good as you - most of the countries right now better than you in quality of life metrics are European, only Canada and Australia being the outlier
Best countries to live in tend to be democratic countries. Problem is that there are too many authoritarian countries in the world. But with Trump threatening to abandon Ukraine and NATO, Europeans should be worried about long term threat of Russia. Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. After years of rebuilding military, possible risk of Russia continuing its imperial ambition. The unthinkable is not impossible.
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