Just pretend to give Putin a little respect is all it took. Save hundreds of thousands of lives by pretending to respect Putin. That's how you negotiate.
Democrats like to act tough, and burn money and have hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian people die. But hey, they stood up to Putin. Let's waste another 100 billion, we have no chance to win. We showed Putin.
Or pretend to like Putin, so he stops killing Ukrainians, and burning everyone's money.
Trump the only one with any sense. If it was up to democrats... we would just keep funding a stupid war that we couldn't win.
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Just pretend to give Putin a little respect is all it took. Save hundreds of thousands of lives by pretending to respect Putin. That's how you negotiate.
Democrats like to act tough, and burn money and have hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian people die. But hey, they stood up to Putin. Let's waste another 100 billion, we have no chance to win. We showed Putin.
Or pretend to like Putin, so he stops killing Ukrainians, and burning everyone's money.
Trump the only one with any sense. If it was up to democrats... we would just keep funding a stupid war that we couldn't win.
Please! Trump sees himself as another Putin but he’s kidding himself. Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Trump is none of those things.
Please! Trump sees himself as another Putin but he’s kidding himself. Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Trump is none of those things.
Is it even pretending? How about, "Hey, he's a world leader. I'm not gonna act like I know what's best for every other country, not gonna but into other people's affairs with checkbook in tow, and give the guy a little respect."
And, oh, "not fawn over actor turned puppet president Zelensky, as if all of a sudden Ukraine is our ally." Did Ukraine at least send us some hot Ukrainian chicks for all the money we dumped into their defense effort?
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Is it even pretending? How about, "Hey, he's a world leader. I'm not gonna act like I know what's best for every other country, not gonna but into other people's affairs with checkbook in tow, and give the guy a little respect."
And, oh, "not fawn over actor turned puppet president Zelensky, as if all of a sudden Ukraine is our ally." Did Ukraine at least send us some hot Ukrainian chicks for all the money we dumped into their defense effort?
I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America.
I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America.
[Quote: Originally Posted by joe pockets]I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America.[/Quote]
@joe pockets
Quote :Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work.
Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin
[Quote: Originally Posted by joe pockets]I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America.[/Quote]
@joe pockets
Quote :Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work.
Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin
I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America.
@joe pockets Quote : Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin[/Quote
It’s just a class case of being heads and shoulders better equipped for the position! And I must add Putin having vastly more wealth! I dislike both equally…..Maybe not!
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America.
@joe pockets Quote : Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin[/Quote
It’s just a class case of being heads and shoulders better equipped for the position! And I must add Putin having vastly more wealth! I dislike both equally…..Maybe not!
Trump ending the war by manipulating Putin.. Just tell Putin hes the best, and everyone lives...
But that's not at all what the democrats and media want to hear. Especially a war they have so painstakingly nurtured and funded since day one. Think of all the money their military-industrial complex shareholders would miss out on. No. Not acceptable at all.
Trump ending the war by manipulating Putin.. Just tell Putin hes the best, and everyone lives...
But that's not at all what the democrats and media want to hear. Especially a war they have so painstakingly nurtured and funded since day one. Think of all the money their military-industrial complex shareholders would miss out on. No. Not acceptable at all.
Trump took a bullet for the American people. Pint-sized Zelensky hides in a bunker while outlawing opposition media and churches. Trump’s no coward, but Zelensky is.
Trump took a bullet for the American people. Pint-sized Zelensky hides in a bunker while outlawing opposition media and churches. Trump’s no coward, but Zelensky is.
This war is, and always was, a completely disgusting disregard for human life. Imagine the heartbreak for all those families who have lost sons, fathers, brothers etc. It should never have started, and must end immediately by any means possible. Thank you Trump for your efforts.
This war is, and always was, a completely disgusting disregard for human life. Imagine the heartbreak for all those families who have lost sons, fathers, brothers etc. It should never have started, and must end immediately by any means possible. Thank you Trump for your efforts.
President Trump’s bold move to replace Gen. C.Q. Brown with Lt. Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs signals a return to military excellence over woke bureaucracy. Brown’s tenure was marked by DEI initiatives and questionable leadership, while Caine’s proven track record in dismantling ISIS and special operations expertise aligns with Trump’s America-First vision. This change prioritizes warfighting over performative politics, ensuring our military remains the world’s strongest. Hegseth’s focus on meritocracy and lethality over identity politics is exactly what the Pentagon needs. Taxpayer dollars should fund warriors, not woke programs.
President Trump’s bold move to replace Gen. C.Q. Brown with Lt. Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs signals a return to military excellence over woke bureaucracy. Brown’s tenure was marked by DEI initiatives and questionable leadership, while Caine’s proven track record in dismantling ISIS and special operations expertise aligns with Trump’s America-First vision. This change prioritizes warfighting over performative politics, ensuring our military remains the world’s strongest. Hegseth’s focus on meritocracy and lethality over identity politics is exactly what the Pentagon needs. Taxpayer dollars should fund warriors, not woke programs.
I don't think Trump is supporting Russia or Putin. But I do think he is smart to not call Putin a dictator in public .. Its a diplomatic negotiation to end a war; Trump has to treat Putin with some basic level of respect and decorum to save a lot of lives and money. Trump just has to pretend to respect Putin and the war will end.
I don't think Trump is supporting Russia or Putin. But I do think he is smart to not call Putin a dictator in public .. Its a diplomatic negotiation to end a war; Trump has to treat Putin with some basic level of respect and decorum to save a lot of lives and money. Trump just has to pretend to respect Putin and the war will end.
Russia's military and economy have been devastated. It will take them generations to recover. All this without losing a single American soldier. Our investment in Ukraine has been very well spent. And now Trump wants Ukraine to basically surrender!
Is this the winning Trump is talking about!
Russia's military and economy have been devastated. It will take them generations to recover. All this without losing a single American soldier. Our investment in Ukraine has been very well spent. And now Trump wants Ukraine to basically surrender!
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America. @joe pockets Quote : Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin[/Quote It’s just a class case of being heads and shoulders better equipped for the position! And I must add Putin having vastly more wealth! I dislike both equally…..Maybe not! https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/ukrainewhat39s-the-next-step-103616945/98Trump ending the war by manipulating Putin.. Just tell Putin hes the best, and everyone lives... But that's not at all what the democrats and media want to hear. Especially a war they have so painstakingly nurtured and funded since day one. Think of all the money their military-industrial complex shareholders would miss out on. No. Not acceptable at all. Trump took a bullet for the American people. Pint-sized Zelensky hides in a bunker while outlawing opposition media and churches. Trump’s no coward, but Zelensky is.This war is, and always was, a completely disgusting disregard for human life. Imagine the heartbreak for all those families who have lost sons, fathers, brothers etc. It should never have started, and must end immediately by any means possible. Thank you Trump for your efforts.@lovethedough Tell to his bone spurs! He played college tennis but couldn’t serve his country!…. But he is smarter than all the generals!…Trumps a clown!President Trump’s bold move to replace Gen. C.Q. Brown with Lt. Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs signals a return to military excellence over woke bureaucracy. Brown’s tenure was marked by DEI initiatives and questionable leadership, while Caine’s proven track record in dismantling ISIS and special operations expertise aligns with Trump’s America-First vision. This change prioritizes warfighting over performative politics, ensuring our military remains the world’s strongest. Hegseth’s focus on meritocracy and lethality over identity politics is exactly what the Pentagon needs. Taxpayer dollars should fund warriors, not woke programs.I don't think Trump is supporting Russia or Putin. But I do think he is smart to not call Putin a dictator in public .. Its a diplomatic negotiation to end a war; Trump has to treat Putin with some basic level of respect and decorum to save a lot of lives and money. Trump just has to pretend to respect Putin and the war will end. Russia's military and economy have been devastated. It will take them generations to recover. All this without losing a single American soldier. Our investment in Ukraine has been very well spent. And now Trump wants Ukraine to basically surrender! Is this the winning Trump is talking about! Nonsense. The numbers do not support this. It is more Leftist Media narrative talking points.
How exactly does "devastating Russia military and economy" make us safer or more prosperous?
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America. @joe pockets Quote : Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin[/Quote It’s just a class case of being heads and shoulders better equipped for the position! And I must add Putin having vastly more wealth! I dislike both equally…..Maybe not! https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/ukrainewhat39s-the-next-step-103616945/98Trump ending the war by manipulating Putin.. Just tell Putin hes the best, and everyone lives... But that's not at all what the democrats and media want to hear. Especially a war they have so painstakingly nurtured and funded since day one. Think of all the money their military-industrial complex shareholders would miss out on. No. Not acceptable at all. Trump took a bullet for the American people. Pint-sized Zelensky hides in a bunker while outlawing opposition media and churches. Trump’s no coward, but Zelensky is.This war is, and always was, a completely disgusting disregard for human life. Imagine the heartbreak for all those families who have lost sons, fathers, brothers etc. It should never have started, and must end immediately by any means possible. Thank you Trump for your efforts.@lovethedough Tell to his bone spurs! He played college tennis but couldn’t serve his country!…. But he is smarter than all the generals!…Trumps a clown!President Trump’s bold move to replace Gen. C.Q. Brown with Lt. Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs signals a return to military excellence over woke bureaucracy. Brown’s tenure was marked by DEI initiatives and questionable leadership, while Caine’s proven track record in dismantling ISIS and special operations expertise aligns with Trump’s America-First vision. This change prioritizes warfighting over performative politics, ensuring our military remains the world’s strongest. Hegseth’s focus on meritocracy and lethality over identity politics is exactly what the Pentagon needs. Taxpayer dollars should fund warriors, not woke programs.I don't think Trump is supporting Russia or Putin. But I do think he is smart to not call Putin a dictator in public .. Its a diplomatic negotiation to end a war; Trump has to treat Putin with some basic level of respect and decorum to save a lot of lives and money. Trump just has to pretend to respect Putin and the war will end. Russia's military and economy have been devastated. It will take them generations to recover. All this without losing a single American soldier. Our investment in Ukraine has been very well spent. And now Trump wants Ukraine to basically surrender! Is this the winning Trump is talking about! Nonsense. The numbers do not support this. It is more Leftist Media narrative talking points.
How exactly does "devastating Russia military and economy" make us safer or more prosperous?
[Quote: Originally Posted by joe pockets]Please! Trump sees himself as another Putin but he’s kidding himself. Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Trump is none of those things.[/Quote]
Praising a foreign leader over America's Commander-in Chief....unreal!
Only in America can you do this.
[Quote: Originally Posted by joe pockets]Please! Trump sees himself as another Putin but he’s kidding himself. Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Trump is none of those things.[/Quote]
Praising a foreign leader over America's Commander-in Chief....unreal!
How doesn’t it not make NATO & America safer ? If Russia had known this would have played out as it has do you think they would have started it? I don’t! What does Russia have to do with are economy or prosperity? Not that much! I still believe in the possibility of a Russian collapse and end to the war, How long can prop up the economy ? Or Putin could pull back his troops at anytime and declare victory. He’s already gained a lot of territory. At this point the best news that helps Russia is Trump and his admiration for Putin! Hopefully the rest of NATO step to the plate and continues support and fills in what is needed to continue there defense of there country!…The question then is…And I wouldn’t be to surprised if our new President cancels some Russian sanctions ! You think not?
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How doesn’t it not make NATO & America safer ? If Russia had known this would have played out as it has do you think they would have started it? I don’t! What does Russia have to do with are economy or prosperity? Not that much! I still believe in the possibility of a Russian collapse and end to the war, How long can prop up the economy ? Or Putin could pull back his troops at anytime and declare victory. He’s already gained a lot of territory. At this point the best news that helps Russia is Trump and his admiration for Putin! Hopefully the rest of NATO step to the plate and continues support and fills in what is needed to continue there defense of there country!…The question then is…And I wouldn’t be to surprised if our new President cancels some Russian sanctions ! You think not?
They may have some issues in their economy -- like a lot of countries right no do. But the 'collapse' of their economy or that it is being 'propped up' is not accurate.
Just a couple of examples:
Russia’s economy has confounded expectations throughout the war and, despite suffering several complications, remains well-placed to support the Kremlin’s ambitions in Ukraine and beyond.
The tight labour market has benefitted many Russians used to stagnant income growth in the decade before the war. Real wages have soared since 2022, fuelling the fastest sustained growth in consumer spending in over a decade. Soaring military production and record-high wages for soldiers have helped reduce some of Russia’s chronic regional inequalities.
Inflation also has its advantages. Rising prices send important signals to firms to expand supply by investing in areas where prices are growing fastest. Investment – chronically low for most of the post-Soviet period – has grown faster than GDP since the war began. Rising prices have also helped swell public coffers, with turnover taxes like VAT growing at record levels and boosting the Kremlin’s fiscal position.
@joe pockets
They may have some issues in their economy -- like a lot of countries right no do. But the 'collapse' of their economy or that it is being 'propped up' is not accurate.
Just a couple of examples:
Russia’s economy has confounded expectations throughout the war and, despite suffering several complications, remains well-placed to support the Kremlin’s ambitions in Ukraine and beyond.
The tight labour market has benefitted many Russians used to stagnant income growth in the decade before the war. Real wages have soared since 2022, fuelling the fastest sustained growth in consumer spending in over a decade. Soaring military production and record-high wages for soldiers have helped reduce some of Russia’s chronic regional inequalities.
Inflation also has its advantages. Rising prices send important signals to firms to expand supply by investing in areas where prices are growing fastest. Investment – chronically low for most of the post-Soviet period – has grown faster than GDP since the war began. Rising prices have also helped swell public coffers, with turnover taxes like VAT growing at record levels and boosting the Kremlin’s fiscal position.
Not praise! Comparison! Similar to a Mercedes & a Hugo when comes how they built! Putin handled Tucker like bread dough! And Tucker throws softballs to Trump and he still fouled them off! ….Mid-Terms are not far away ! Enjoy
@SarasotaSlim
Not praise! Comparison! Similar to a Mercedes & a Hugo when comes how they built! Putin handled Tucker like bread dough! And Tucker throws softballs to Trump and he still fouled them off! ….Mid-Terms are not far away ! Enjoy
The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO...Russia has consistently opposed the idea of Ukraine becoming a member, fearing it would bring NATO forces too close to its borders.
@joe pockets
The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO...Russia has consistently opposed the idea of Ukraine becoming a member, fearing it would bring NATO forces too close to its borders.
You answered a question with a question, which means you don't have an answer. I'll answer your question though.
If Russia was truly pushed to an economic brink, and had exhausted all military resources, it could bring about a mutually assured destruction scenario. That definitely makes America, along with all NATO countries, along with the entire world, less safe. Russia is also a major oil producer. Turmoil in a oil producing country is bad for tje global economy. The current iteration of the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war is a huge contributor to current inflation yet somehow that's rarely acknowledged.
I'll ask you another question. Why do you want a Russian collapse?
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@joe pockets
You answered a question with a question, which means you don't have an answer. I'll answer your question though.
If Russia was truly pushed to an economic brink, and had exhausted all military resources, it could bring about a mutually assured destruction scenario. That definitely makes America, along with all NATO countries, along with the entire world, less safe. Russia is also a major oil producer. Turmoil in a oil producing country is bad for tje global economy. The current iteration of the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war is a huge contributor to current inflation yet somehow that's rarely acknowledged.
I'll ask you another question. Why do you want a Russian collapse?
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