Btw just for context if you push Europe enough so they end up siding with China (in your guys conflict) - those two economies combined would be somewhere in the 60-70% region of the combined wealth in the world for the continent and country in the world with the least amount of debt (as the cherry on top) - go figure what economic position that would put you guys in
Europe is in dying and facing unstoppable decline .. uncontrolled immigration, an ageing population, it's militarily is weak ,,and there birth rate in 2023 was 5.4 % less than in 2022, when 3.88 million births were registered. This sharp decline is the largest annual drop in the EU birth rate since 1961. ( Under Putin pregnant girls receive a payment of 100,000 rubles - USD $1,210.81 to have a baby...)
and Europe's leaders no longer wield the global influence of old. Economists say the absence of growth, fiscal imbalances and political intransigence could lead to decline and a loss of standing for Europe as a whole..
The EU is dying fast.....
Just around 7 months ago month ...French President Emmanuel Macron issued a stark warning for a Europe ....he said is over-regulating and under-investing:" the EU could die" ...he added, that if the bloc continues to follow its “classical agenda,” it will be “out of the market” in two or three years..
Screw the EU....
This comment will age like old milk (we only will get more influence while you guys are busy destroying your own country - the markets don’t lie mate - look at the Euro versus the dollar since the orange clown took office and get back to me) - and we haven’t even tried destroy your market with counter tariffs - your market took a bigger hit when Trump threatened EU than ours did
the markets don’t lie mate
What have they done the last 25, 50, 75, 100 years?
I truly don't know, but I'd venture a guess it's up and down vs. steady trajectory in either direction.
No one is going anywhere, not for a while. China will eventually take all of the marbles only question that remains is when but be assured it won't be the next 3 years.
No they won’t. I wrote about this earlier. They are a dumpster fire, by and large. 
@SarasotaSlim
It is a bleaker picture than you have painted.
They are forecast to have 1% or less growth in GDP this year. The worry is that they are on the verge of a recession with any drop at all. The drop may come if the global economy looks to slowdown.
Another issue with their drop in fertility rate is that the immigrants, illegal or not do not have that issue as much.
Energy is in crisis and the productivity is a huge concern.
Along with a myriad of other worries.
First of all, you do realize that GDP projections are set by the countries themselves, right?
To say that your country has a more relaxed attitude toward the truth (wouldn't be that far fetched of a statement - more so now than ever I might add) - So I wouldn't believe everything I read online.
Second, who the F. cares what happens in 20-30 years when either India or China becomes the world leader? I care about what happens in the next 5-20 years (that is the years left in my youth), - and in that timeframe the euro will overtake the USD (unless Asia creates its own currency) as the world reserve. That means we will have the privilege you guys have had throughout your entire history: the ability to "print" as much money as we want and live of other peoples money.
OK, I have, going back to 2016. Same roller coaster ride each year. Other years with higher peaks than now. 
Trump falsely claims the world is ripping off the US to justify his trade war. Actually US dollar as world currency allows US to enjoy huge advantages of cheap debt and imports. Rich countries can afford to buy more than what they produce. In worst scenario, decades of US economic war or sanctions force countries to diversify away from US market. MAGA is really about isolating the US.
Gonna isolate the USA into complete ruins
@Calde13
I dont see the Euro overtaking the USD, you have too many bloated crappy countries in the union that drag the whole thing down. Without Germany the Euro would be at 60 cents to the dollar. If the Germans ever left the union it would go south in seconds. You have multiple dead governments in the union and few that are carrying the load and that is why the UK left in the first place.
Denmark for you and Sweden are fine, the dead weight are Greece, Italy etc the ones who nearly went BK after 2008.
Kyiv strikes Moscow 3 days in a row
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/05/07/disrupting-the-victory-day-parade-ukrainian-drones-paralyse-moscow-airspace-for-three-days
Ukrainian drones caused massive disruptions at Moscow airports days before Russia’s Victory Day parade on Friday. At least 60,000 people had their trips delayed or cancelled, with around 350 flights reportedly affected.
Yeah you are right that we of course have our own baggage to work with - it is actually mostly our further and further expansion and our Veto system that hold us back - the problem with Greece and Italy etc is their economy is tied to much on tourism - but my statement of us overtaking the USD isn’t based so much on us owning you guys (because we have happily had it like this for decades and we haven’t tried advancing the Euro as the main currency) my statement is mostly bound to the market losing fate in USD (and that is easily observed in the market - the two most important aspect for a main world currency is that the country/countries of said currency obey to the international trade deal acts and that they are trustworthy which both are aspects Trump burn faster than Melanie’s love rate) and Euro at the moment being the obvious candidate to take over
Ok but then you don’t know what to look for and who can blame you (neither would Trumps best financial advisors) it isn’t the rise or fall in price that is important it is when they happened ! When the stock market experience uncertainties or turmoil the market move their money into safe heavens to keep it safe from what happens in the market - that has ALWAYS happened with the USD apart from now - and if your Trump infected brain can’t comprehend what that means - that means the market don’t see the USD as a safe heaven anymore
Btw can any of this not be undone ? Of course not - but Trump is playing with fire in one of the only aspects in life that is built 100% on trust and reliability- the economical world (and you and him will pay the price for that for decades maybe forever if he doesn’t change the way he go about those things - trust can sometimes not be rebuilt)
Esp. Cause what you are doing right now is fucking over also those that already have trusted and borrowed/funded you once (no hate to Howard university - but I don’t think you have to be graduate from them to figure out what that can mean to future trust, credit scores and lending involving you guys)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/9/after-minerals-deal-trump-approves-arms-to-ukraine-plays-down-peace-plan
Time to escalate. More crippling sanctions end . And finest kind of weapons ... The blood bath continues...
And front lines state send more north Koreans the last ones were delicious soft and tender....
IMO, find you a condescending idiot. They are not going to take safe haven in the dollar with uncertainty of growth caused by tariffs.
Btw it is so fun discussing with those of you that learned about tariffs less than a year ago discuss like you are some economical experts :) - mate I have done this my entire life - and if you think tarriffs is the worst that is about to happen to your country I don’t even know if I should give you economical nightmares - this is litterally nothing compared to what you will face when you go into stagnation - which is a journey your country more or less already has started (an unlike tarriffs that journey is a one way ticket that is irrepressible on your own - so if that happens how most country see you by now - I think it is in order I say enjoy the ride)
@Calde13
Stagflation of course not stagnation - Stupid autocorrect :( - Can't believe my typo took your situation from "Ok that is bad - but we can fix that within 3 months or around that" - to "That problem is close to unsolvable on our own and we are fucked" - If it makes you happier I feel terrible I gave you false hopes and if I could I would make my autocorrect feel more useless than Trump did Stormy Daniels 
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