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    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2022 - 12:24 PM ET #576

    There is going to be modest gun control measures. Has to be after these crazy shootings. And they will at most, modestly help. Our society is a society of violence, recent years has shown some tolerate violence to achieve goals. Only promotes more violence. You cannot vilify our law enforcement, promote violence for any cause, and water down criminal justice without having more violence, all of which has taken place. 

     

     

     

     

    On another note after reading plane comments; 5 suicidal men in separate incidences since 2010 have purposely killed themselves and have taken more than 550 innocent lives with them. The most recent was March 21st of this year, 131 innocent lives. Suicidal pilots. Not in the US yet, just a matter of time. Yes planes are not guns and guns are designed to kill, still many innocent lives. 

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    There is going to be modest gun control measures. Has to be after these crazy shootings. And they will at most, modestly help. Our society is a society of violence, recent years has shown some tolerate violence to achieve goals. Only promotes more violence. You cannot vilify our law enforcement, promote violence for any cause, and water down criminal justice without having more violence, all of which has taken place. 

     

     

     

     

    On another note after reading plane comments; 5 suicidal men in separate incidences since 2010 have purposely killed themselves and have taken more than 550 innocent lives with them. The most recent was March 21st of this year, 131 innocent lives. Suicidal pilots. Not in the US yet, just a matter of time. Yes planes are not guns and guns are designed to kill, still many innocent lives. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2022 - 12:31 PM ET #577

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Liberal logic:  Protect schools with tax dollars? Too expensive.  Protect Ukraine with tax dollars? Priceless. It's funny how you pretend to care about anything besides yourself

    It’s not my fault that you’ve been conditioned to believe that a person must virtue signal in order to care about others. 

    Pea brain mentality. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Liberal logic:  Protect schools with tax dollars? Too expensive.  Protect Ukraine with tax dollars? Priceless. It's funny how you pretend to care about anything besides yourself

    It’s not my fault that you’ve been conditioned to believe that a person must virtue signal in order to care about others. 

    Pea brain mentality. 

     

    sleep2

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2022 - 2:03 PM ET #578

    Why would democrats focus on getting guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens instead of focusing on getting guns out of the hands of criminals? 

    I’ve never seen a good answer to this question. 

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    Why would democrats focus on getting guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens instead of focusing on getting guns out of the hands of criminals? 

    I’ve never seen a good answer to this question. 

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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2022 - 7:51 PM ET #579

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why would democrats focus on getting guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens instead of focusing on getting guns out of the hands of criminals? 

    Myth is that gun control punish law abiding gun owners.  There is a human cost to gun violence and survivors feel the punishment every day.  Licensing gun owners and registering guns do not prevent guns from being used for legitimate purposes.

    Myth is that crime control is needed because criminals don't bother with gun control.  Stronger control over legal guns reduce the chance they go to dangerous people.  Controls over legal guns are essential to prevent diversion and to choke illegal supply.  Since registered guns aren't often used in crimes, this suggests gun control works.

    Myth is that gun control doesn't work.  Evidences show stronger gun control reduces rates of homicides, suicides and accidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why would democrats focus on getting guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens instead of focusing on getting guns out of the hands of criminals? 

    Myth is that gun control punish law abiding gun owners.  There is a human cost to gun violence and survivors feel the punishment every day.  Licensing gun owners and registering guns do not prevent guns from being used for legitimate purposes.

    Myth is that crime control is needed because criminals don't bother with gun control.  Stronger control over legal guns reduce the chance they go to dangerous people.  Controls over legal guns are essential to prevent diversion and to choke illegal supply.  Since registered guns aren't often used in crimes, this suggests gun control works.

    Myth is that gun control doesn't work.  Evidences show stronger gun control reduces rates of homicides, suicides and accidents.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2022 - 9:54 PM ET #580

    Police union and Ohio federation of teachers oppose training teachers as armed guards in schools.  Teachers aren't trusted to teach but they are trusted to handle guns after only 24 hours of training compared to 60 hours for police.  Normally, 737 hours training required.  Lack of evidence show more guns would make schools safer.

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    Police union and Ohio federation of teachers oppose training teachers as armed guards in schools.  Teachers aren't trusted to teach but they are trusted to handle guns after only 24 hours of training compared to 60 hours for police.  Normally, 737 hours training required.  Lack of evidence show more guns would make schools safer.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2022 - 9:57 PM ET #581

    Florida man in Orlando was fatally shot in the back after his two-year-old found an illegal loaded gun. The gun was found in a bag on the floor. At least the kid shot his Dad & not himself.

    "According to Sheriff Mina, both of the boy's parents are convicted felons on probation and left a loaded gun out in the house," said the report. "The shooting victim was identified as Reggie Mabry. His wife Marie Ayala was arrested for manslaughter by culpable negligence and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon."

    Law enforcement needs to squeeze this Mom to find out how/where they got the gun.

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    Florida man in Orlando was fatally shot in the back after his two-year-old found an illegal loaded gun. The gun was found in a bag on the floor. At least the kid shot his Dad & not himself.

    "According to Sheriff Mina, both of the boy's parents are convicted felons on probation and left a loaded gun out in the house," said the report. "The shooting victim was identified as Reggie Mabry. His wife Marie Ayala was arrested for manslaughter by culpable negligence and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon."

    Law enforcement needs to squeeze this Mom to find out how/where they got the gun.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2022 - 10:02 PM ET #582

    Librarians in Texas have requested their weapons come with a silencer.

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    Librarians in Texas have requested their weapons come with a silencer.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2022 - 6:04 AM ET #583

     

        Just America going about its normal business this weekend
    under the deadly daily shadow of gun violence, as a staggering
    13 mass shootings since Friday  deepened trauma from
    recent massacres at a Buffalo supermarket, a Texas elementary
    school and a mass shooting at a Tulsa, Oklahoma medical center.

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        Just America going about its normal business this weekend
    under the deadly daily shadow of gun violence, as a staggering
    13 mass shootings since Friday  deepened trauma from
    recent massacres at a Buffalo supermarket, a Texas elementary
    school and a mass shooting at a Tulsa, Oklahoma medical center.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 6:50 AM ET #584

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Just America going about its normal business this weekend under the deadly daily shadow of gun violence, as a staggering 13 mass shootings since Friday  deepened trauma from recent massacres at a Buffalo supermarket, a Texas elementary school and a mass shooting at a Tulsa, Oklahoma medical center.

     

    This outrage compares with other advanced western society's how??! confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Just America going about its normal business this weekend under the deadly daily shadow of gun violence, as a staggering 13 mass shootings since Friday  deepened trauma from recent massacres at a Buffalo supermarket, a Texas elementary school and a mass shooting at a Tulsa, Oklahoma medical center.

     

    This outrage compares with other advanced western society's how??! confused

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 7:02 AM ET #585

    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” 

    sleep2

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    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” 

    sleep2

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 10:08 AM ET #586

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Second amendment intent has been distorted.  "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of people to bear arms shall not be infringed."  The militia is the police and national guard.  Individuals are not well regulated.  Nor are they the state militia.  The 5th amendment separates persons from the militia, proving they are not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Second amendment intent has been distorted.  "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of people to bear arms shall not be infringed."  The militia is the police and national guard.  Individuals are not well regulated.  Nor are they the state militia.  The 5th amendment separates persons from the militia, proving they are not the same.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 10:29 AM ET #587

    A state militia isn’t the people. That would be the government. 

    How could you form a well regulated militia without any guns to start with? 

    “Hi Mr State, we would like to fight you and your tyranny but firstwe ask that you kindly release some guns for us to use against you. 

    Sincerely, 

    The People” 

     

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    A state militia isn’t the people. That would be the government. 

    How could you form a well regulated militia without any guns to start with? 

    “Hi Mr State, we would like to fight you and your tyranny but firstwe ask that you kindly release some guns for us to use against you. 

    Sincerely, 

    The People” 

     

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 11:59 AM ET #588

    Suddenly all the inner city shootings makes the news. Seems like yesterday that was taboo for MSM. 

    Of course they're now lumped into the mass shooting category. 

    Amazing how that works. 

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    Suddenly all the inner city shootings makes the news. Seems like yesterday that was taboo for MSM. 

    Of course they're now lumped into the mass shooting category. 

    Amazing how that works. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 12:11 PM ET #589

    I agree, arming school staff a bit ridiculous. 

    Making schools safer the way to go. External cameras that can be monitored by law enforcement or private agency. Photo ID bar coded badges for always locked doors.

    I had Homeland Security Training for critical infrastructure years ago in Rhode Island. Same approach needed here. 

    And I am all for 21 years of age and more stringent background checks. 

    So that will specifically help with school shootings, what about all those "other" mass shootings. Do we address those or just use them for now?

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    I agree, arming school staff a bit ridiculous. 

    Making schools safer the way to go. External cameras that can be monitored by law enforcement or private agency. Photo ID bar coded badges for always locked doors.

    I had Homeland Security Training for critical infrastructure years ago in Rhode Island. Same approach needed here. 

    And I am all for 21 years of age and more stringent background checks. 

    So that will specifically help with school shootings, what about all those "other" mass shootings. Do we address those or just use them for now?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 7:03 PM ET #590

    BREAKING: The House just voted to change the age requirement for buying semi-automatic weapons to 21 yrs old.... I wanna see more of this. 

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    BREAKING: The House just voted to change the age requirement for buying semi-automatic weapons to 21 yrs old.... I wanna see more of this. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2022 - 7:08 PM ET #591

    Unfortunately the NRA will block it in the Senate...

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    Unfortunately the NRA will block it in the Senate...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2022 - 12:04 AM ET #592

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Unfortunately the NRA will block it in the Senate...

    That is a given.  The NRA will block any such legislation in the senate, despite the vast majority of Americans wanting changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Unfortunately the NRA will block it in the Senate...

    That is a given.  The NRA will block any such legislation in the senate, despite the vast majority of Americans wanting changes.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2022 - 5:59 PM ET #593

    From James Woods.

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    From James Woods.

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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2022 - 1:11 AM ET #594

    Busy day at the Capitol Hill, yet there is another shooting results in three deaths in Maryland today. Senseless gun violence keeps happening in this country, it just wont quit.  

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/multiple-people-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-county-manufacturing-plant/3073621/

     

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    Busy day at the Capitol Hill, yet there is another shooting results in three deaths in Maryland today. Senseless gun violence keeps happening in this country, it just wont quit.  

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/multiple-people-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-county-manufacturing-plant/3073621/

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2022 - 2:42 PM ET #595

    @Europa

     2 kids drown in a pool with 3 life guards.  Time to ban pools.

    LOL LOL

     

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @Europa

     2 kids drown in a pool with 3 life guards.  Time to ban pools.

    LOL LOL

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2022 - 5:52 PM ET #596

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Busy day at the Capitol Hill, yet there is another shooting results in three deaths in Maryland today. Senseless gun violence keeps happening in this country, it just wont quit.   https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/multiple-people-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-county-manufacturing-plant/3073621/

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    Busy day at the Capitol Hill, yet there is another shooting results in three deaths in Maryland today. Senseless gun violence keeps happening in this country, it just wont quit.   https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/multiple-people-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-county-manufacturing-plant/3073621/

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Busy day at the Capitol Hill, yet there is another shooting results in three deaths in Maryland today. Senseless gun violence keeps happening in this country, it just wont quit.   https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/multiple-people-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-county-manufacturing-plant/3073621/ sad

     

    It's really sad, and it keeps happening with no end in sight in this country. Lessons to learn from other countries, like Australia, New Zealand, UK, Canada, Norway, ban assault rifles after mass shooting occurrences. It saves lives.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Busy day at the Capitol Hill, yet there is another shooting results in three deaths in Maryland today. Senseless gun violence keeps happening in this country, it just wont quit.   https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/multiple-people-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-county-manufacturing-plant/3073621/ sad

     

    It's really sad, and it keeps happening with no end in sight in this country. Lessons to learn from other countries, like Australia, New Zealand, UK, Canada, Norway, ban assault rifles after mass shooting occurrences. It saves lives.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2022 - 9:33 AM ET #598

     

    Want to find a mass shooting? Google most major cities especially those with soft prosecutors. Every weekend same thing, since I can remember.

    Chicago

    A drive-by mass shooting on Saturday afternoon in Chicago has left four people injured, with one considered to be in critical condition.

    LOUISVILLE

    Five teenagers were left injured after they were shot Saturday near the Big Four Bridge in Louisville, Kentucky, the The Louisville Metro Police Department said.

    DETROIT

    Four Detroit residents celebrating at a bachelor party were shot early Saturday at a home on the northwest side of the city.

    ST LOUIS

    Police are investigating after 2 teens died in a murder-suicide in north St. Louis County on Saturday night.

    May 15th: Six people were killed and eight others were wounded in shootings that occurred in St. Louis City this weekend.

    PHILLY 6/5

    A bustling entertainment district turned into a scene of carnage when multiple shooters opened fire in the South Street area of Philadelphia, killing at least three people and wounding 11 others, police said.

    NEW YORK 5/16

    Between 11 p.m. Sunday and 6 a.m. Monday, officers responded to shootings in East New York, Brooklyn and Ridgewood, Queens, as well as in Manhattan’s Inwood and Hell’s Kitchen, where a 24-year-old man was shot in the chest.

    LA

    Los Angeles police tracked the source of an online threat that raised alarm this week in downtown Los Angeles.

    The threat made on social media warned of a mass shooting in the area, where leaders from several nations, including President Biden, gathered for the Summit of the Americas. The threat was posted Tuesday and circulated Wednesday, police said.

    May 22nd; Police on Sunday were investigating after one man was killed and eight people were wounded in a weekend shooting at a party that drew about 100 people to a Southern California hookah lounge.

     

     

     

     

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    Want to find a mass shooting? Google most major cities especially those with soft prosecutors. Every weekend same thing, since I can remember.

    Chicago

    A drive-by mass shooting on Saturday afternoon in Chicago has left four people injured, with one considered to be in critical condition.

    LOUISVILLE

    Five teenagers were left injured after they were shot Saturday near the Big Four Bridge in Louisville, Kentucky, the The Louisville Metro Police Department said.

    DETROIT

    Four Detroit residents celebrating at a bachelor party were shot early Saturday at a home on the northwest side of the city.

    ST LOUIS

    Police are investigating after 2 teens died in a murder-suicide in north St. Louis County on Saturday night.

    May 15th: Six people were killed and eight others were wounded in shootings that occurred in St. Louis City this weekend.

    PHILLY 6/5

    A bustling entertainment district turned into a scene of carnage when multiple shooters opened fire in the South Street area of Philadelphia, killing at least three people and wounding 11 others, police said.

    NEW YORK 5/16

    Between 11 p.m. Sunday and 6 a.m. Monday, officers responded to shootings in East New York, Brooklyn and Ridgewood, Queens, as well as in Manhattan’s Inwood and Hell’s Kitchen, where a 24-year-old man was shot in the chest.

    LA

    Los Angeles police tracked the source of an online threat that raised alarm this week in downtown Los Angeles.

    The threat made on social media warned of a mass shooting in the area, where leaders from several nations, including President Biden, gathered for the Summit of the Americas. The threat was posted Tuesday and circulated Wednesday, police said.

    May 22nd; Police on Sunday were investigating after one man was killed and eight people were wounded in a weekend shooting at a party that drew about 100 people to a Southern California hookah lounge.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2022 - 9:37 AM ET #599

    @UNIMAN

     Never happening not part of the (WLE) WHITE LIBERAL ELITIST narrative.

    Black-on-black crime (murders) daily - MSM nowhere to be found.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @UNIMAN

     Never happening not part of the (WLE) WHITE LIBERAL ELITIST narrative.

    Black-on-black crime (murders) daily - MSM nowhere to be found.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2022 - 9:39 AM ET #600

    Remember our war on drugs? Remember Biden holding up a quarter size rock of crack will get you years of prison back in the 90's.

    Now New York Health Dept.now has subway posters that say " safe drug use" is "empowering". an_roll_laugh

    Ten years from now it will be " safe gun use is empowering"!!! an_roll_laugh

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    Remember our war on drugs? Remember Biden holding up a quarter size rock of crack will get you years of prison back in the 90's.

    Now New York Health Dept.now has subway posters that say " safe drug use" is "empowering". an_roll_laugh

    Ten years from now it will be " safe gun use is empowering"!!! an_roll_laugh

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