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    😲 Trump, in effect, *SURRENDERS* to Iran 😲 for the chaos HE created by STARTING a war!

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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 1:07 AM ET #76

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    I know tons of Republicans who do what I do, Volunteer all the time! I know tons of Republicans who give $ to the poor. The Neoconservatives in the Republican Party are Trotskyist = Communist look at the founders. There are also Fascist in the Republican Party, Prescott Bush funded the Nazis. Dems are the Party of the KKK & Slavery they have done nothing for African Americans. Hillary Clinton’s mentor Senator Byrd was a Grand Wizard in the KKK.

    USSR was not a Communist Republic it was a Technocracy according to the CIA & anyone who knows what Communism is. Vladimir Lenin stated he didn’t complete his mission transforming Russia into a Communist Country. Stalin was a Ruthless Dictator who also failed at converting USSR into Communism. USSR was a Centralized Technocracy. USSR never lost to USA, USSR tried to switch from a Centralized Economy to a market based economy but screwed it all up.

    A True Marxist Communist Country or Company has no leader & certainly no Dictator it’s controlled by the Masses. USA is functioning as a Plutocracy & is a bad example of Capitalism.

    We are in a real bad spot if Dems & Conservatives can’t come together we are all screwed! Trump promised to abolish Obamacare he lied he’s done nothing! Things are getting real bad in USA but far bettor than Europe. Our Healthcare Insurance cost will rise 14% in 2027. 

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    I know tons of Republicans who do what I do, Volunteer all the time! I know tons of Republicans who give $ to the poor. The Neoconservatives in the Republican Party are Trotskyist = Communist look at the founders. There are also Fascist in the Republican Party, Prescott Bush funded the Nazis. Dems are the Party of the KKK & Slavery they have done nothing for African Americans. Hillary Clinton’s mentor Senator Byrd was a Grand Wizard in the KKK.

    USSR was not a Communist Republic it was a Technocracy according to the CIA & anyone who knows what Communism is. Vladimir Lenin stated he didn’t complete his mission transforming Russia into a Communist Country. Stalin was a Ruthless Dictator who also failed at converting USSR into Communism. USSR was a Centralized Technocracy. USSR never lost to USA, USSR tried to switch from a Centralized Economy to a market based economy but screwed it all up.

    A True Marxist Communist Country or Company has no leader & certainly no Dictator it’s controlled by the Masses. USA is functioning as a Plutocracy & is a bad example of Capitalism.

    We are in a real bad spot if Dems & Conservatives can’t come together we are all screwed! Trump promised to abolish Obamacare he lied he’s done nothing! Things are getting real bad in USA but far bettor than Europe. Our Healthcare Insurance cost will rise 14% in 2027. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 2:12 AM ET #77

    Just checking - when you say “Europe” do you mean the UK ? Because it is going fine in the rest of Europe (better than it has been for decades - esp eastern and south Europe is going way beyond expectations - while the north and west for the most part just meets expectations - so apart from fighting a war on behalf of humanity on our own - we are doing fine ) primarily due to Trump actually - when US isn’t reliable any more - talent and money flows to the most reliable place on earth - that is EU and Canada as we speak - so those two are doing fine - but yeah it of course hurt other countries around the world

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    Just checking - when you say “Europe” do you mean the UK ? Because it is going fine in the rest of Europe (better than it has been for decades - esp eastern and south Europe is going way beyond expectations - while the north and west for the most part just meets expectations - so apart from fighting a war on behalf of humanity on our own - we are doing fine ) primarily due to Trump actually - when US isn’t reliable any more - talent and money flows to the most reliable place on earth - that is EU and Canada as we speak - so those two are doing fine - but yeah it of course hurt other countries around the world

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 2:24 AM ET #78

    EU has made big trade deals with pretty much all of South America and India while Trump has been in office - like real deals - deals written out - like India’s 1 billion something population (and one of the biggest emerging economies if not the biggest outright) binding to buy and sell at a favourable price to Europe ! While your president just make up numbers - so sorry to say ! US is not remotely close doing as well as Europe - or us doing as bad as you - sorry that is laughable 

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    EU has made big trade deals with pretty much all of South America and India while Trump has been in office - like real deals - deals written out - like India’s 1 billion something population (and one of the biggest emerging economies if not the biggest outright) binding to buy and sell at a favourable price to Europe ! While your president just make up numbers - so sorry to say ! US is not remotely close doing as well as Europe - or us doing as bad as you - sorry that is laughable 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 2:25 AM ET #79

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    In last 30 years, republicans move more to the right while democrats move more to the left.  Now in global political spectrum, republicans are considered extreme right while democrats are moderate right.  In no developed country would democrats be considered left wing.  But both parties are still not the same because of differences.  For examples, role of government on taxes, welfare, regulations and healthcare.

     

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    In last 30 years, republicans move more to the right while democrats move more to the left.  Now in global political spectrum, republicans are considered extreme right while democrats are moderate right.  In no developed country would democrats be considered left wing.  But both parties are still not the same because of differences.  For examples, role of government on taxes, welfare, regulations and healthcare.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 2:56 AM ET #80

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    BS UK, France, Germany & Central Europe are a mess because dumbasses are Racist against Russia! Russia was the primary energy & raw material supplier for Europe but corrupt NATO, UK, & USA staged a coup in Ukraine in 2014 bringing Ukraine Nazis into Power. Russia has the most advanced Military on earth & you guys lie about Russia & the War.

    Socialism has almost destroyed Europe & when USA dumps NATO because Americans are paying for Europe’s Defense your Social programs will be cut so you guys can go to war with the Boogyman Russia who will destroy Europe if provoked! Europe doesn’t have Manufacturing & Raw Materials to be a player with USA, Russia, China, & eventually Iran. Your major companies will relocate to USA or China so will your top talent.

    India is a mess, they keep their citizens poor to control them, they’re unreliable & extremely corrupt. The EU a creation of the German Nazi Party tried to unseat the Dollar with the Euro & as a result our CIA & Bankers are doing a number on you. USA is using the Ukraine War to export our inflation into Europe. USA & China are going to carve Europe up like a Turkey. The best friend you had was Russia!

    A Civilization must have Cheap Energy, Inexpensive Raw Materials, healthy/inexpensive food. USA is entering a civil war because our country doesn’t provide it when we have it.

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    BS UK, France, Germany & Central Europe are a mess because dumbasses are Racist against Russia! Russia was the primary energy & raw material supplier for Europe but corrupt NATO, UK, & USA staged a coup in Ukraine in 2014 bringing Ukraine Nazis into Power. Russia has the most advanced Military on earth & you guys lie about Russia & the War.

    Socialism has almost destroyed Europe & when USA dumps NATO because Americans are paying for Europe’s Defense your Social programs will be cut so you guys can go to war with the Boogyman Russia who will destroy Europe if provoked! Europe doesn’t have Manufacturing & Raw Materials to be a player with USA, Russia, China, & eventually Iran. Your major companies will relocate to USA or China so will your top talent.

    India is a mess, they keep their citizens poor to control them, they’re unreliable & extremely corrupt. The EU a creation of the German Nazi Party tried to unseat the Dollar with the Euro & as a result our CIA & Bankers are doing a number on you. USA is using the Ukraine War to export our inflation into Europe. USA & China are going to carve Europe up like a Turkey. The best friend you had was Russia!

    A Civilization must have Cheap Energy, Inexpensive Raw Materials, healthy/inexpensive food. USA is entering a civil war because our country doesn’t provide it when we have it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 3:08 AM ET #81

    @Calde13 Soon Trump will be a lame duck POTUS because his base is abandoning him! USA has a rising 37 Trillion debt with no way to pay the debt down. China is USA’s Siamese twin though we battle each other we’re going to raid Europe of everything valuable.

     

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    @Calde13 Soon Trump will be a lame duck POTUS because his base is abandoning him! USA has a rising 37 Trillion debt with no way to pay the debt down. China is USA’s Siamese twin though we battle each other we’re going to raid Europe of everything valuable.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 3:52 AM ET #82

    Ohh that is where you coming from - you think you are the important one ! Then I can easily understand your confusion !

    If the world was a store, then:

    Asia is the manufacturer and the cashier 

    Europe is the legislator and the payment terminal

    US is one of the customers !

     

    the customer is the only part of that equation that is changeable and that is what you feel in your country as we speak - if you don’t believe me - try dig into how much China is sucking our dicks over here as we speak for trying to not have us impose tariffs on them ? I don’t recall them crying when you did? 

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    Ohh that is where you coming from - you think you are the important one ! Then I can easily understand your confusion !

    If the world was a store, then:

    Asia is the manufacturer and the cashier 

    Europe is the legislator and the payment terminal

    US is one of the customers !

     

    the customer is the only part of that equation that is changeable and that is what you feel in your country as we speak - if you don’t believe me - try dig into how much China is sucking our dicks over here as we speak for trying to not have us impose tariffs on them ? I don’t recall them crying when you did? 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 3:54 AM ET #83

    Btw Russia is also part of Europe and last I checked they didn’t have their own race - so it is hard to be racism - bombing another nation might be the problem there 

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    Btw Russia is also part of Europe and last I checked they didn’t have their own race - so it is hard to be racism - bombing another nation might be the problem there 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 4:15 AM ET #84

    The only reason you still are alive as a country is because we hold the hands under you in enforcing dollar be the world reserve currency (and upholding the concept of the petro-dollar) - if we didn’t your country would bankrupt/default over night (maybe that is the reason China is interested in talking with the payment processors of the world) who knows

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    The only reason you still are alive as a country is because we hold the hands under you in enforcing dollar be the world reserve currency (and upholding the concept of the petro-dollar) - if we didn’t your country would bankrupt/default over night (maybe that is the reason China is interested in talking with the payment processors of the world) who knows

     
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    @Calde13 Not at all where I’m coming from! Again Cheap Inexpensive Energy is a must have if you don’t have it your civilization will fail! Though USA energy is expensive the reason for that is fraud not a lack of Energy. Europe doesn’t have Energy because you shut down your nuclear energy, ended much of your oil drilling, & cut off your primary source of energy Russia! The largest Nuclear Plant in Europe is located in Europe’s largest country, Ukraine. Russia has control of the resources in Ukraine which is also the bread basket of Europe.

    The Climate in Europe for farming can be sketchy the largest grain suppliers are Russia, USA, & Ukraine. That’s why you guys turned to India but India is vulnerable to drought. China wants Ukraine’s grain. Civilizations need reliable sources of food. You guys keep importing Immigrants which puts a strain on your resources.

    Civilizations need Raw Materials, the Processing Industry to refine the raw materials, & the supply chains to distribute the raw materials so the consumers can buy the raw materials inexpensively. Expensive Raw Materials will destroy your industry base. You don’t have great sources of raw materials.

    Russia is key to Europe’s survival & prosperity but you guys are brainwashed to hate everything Russian. Your elites thought they could destroy Russia & carve it up solving all of your problems that’s why they’re brainwashing you. It was the CIA who encouraged your Elites to take down Russia knowing you will fail. When you borrow money you buy USA bonds as assets so you can borrow money to give to Ukraine to fight Russia, then you buy USA weapons to fight Russia that’s how USA is exporting our inflation into Europe. That’s why your social programs are being cut so you can divert the money to buy weapons & build weapon manufacturing.

    Your top talent will want to be educated at the best schools & work for the best companies that’s why they will migrate to China & USA. Germany no longer makes Heavy Machinery, China makes it. Germany not USA transferred the valuable tech to China. The best BMWs are made in China. Your elites thought they could control & take over China. The EU wanted to rule the World using the USA as its Military arm, Saudi Arabia/UAE as the financial arm & the Vatican as the Religious arm. But USA, China, & Russia havd other things in mind. You guys gave Blood thirsty Predator USA an excuse to crush you so USA being what it is will.

    Earth is entering a new phase of technology evolution the AI phase will separate China, Russia, & USA from the rest of the World. USA is resource Rich that’s why after difficult times it will prosper. What we’re looking at is a World where China, Russia, & USA are advanced countries while the rest of the world Hunger Games. Iran is also resource Rich & has excellent talent in its population that’s why Israel wants to destroy it. England is the hidden hand behind Israel whose blackmailing Trump & the USA to destroy Iran.

     

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    @Calde13 Not at all where I’m coming from! Again Cheap Inexpensive Energy is a must have if you don’t have it your civilization will fail! Though USA energy is expensive the reason for that is fraud not a lack of Energy. Europe doesn’t have Energy because you shut down your nuclear energy, ended much of your oil drilling, & cut off your primary source of energy Russia! The largest Nuclear Plant in Europe is located in Europe’s largest country, Ukraine. Russia has control of the resources in Ukraine which is also the bread basket of Europe.

    The Climate in Europe for farming can be sketchy the largest grain suppliers are Russia, USA, & Ukraine. That’s why you guys turned to India but India is vulnerable to drought. China wants Ukraine’s grain. Civilizations need reliable sources of food. You guys keep importing Immigrants which puts a strain on your resources.

    Civilizations need Raw Materials, the Processing Industry to refine the raw materials, & the supply chains to distribute the raw materials so the consumers can buy the raw materials inexpensively. Expensive Raw Materials will destroy your industry base. You don’t have great sources of raw materials.

    Russia is key to Europe’s survival & prosperity but you guys are brainwashed to hate everything Russian. Your elites thought they could destroy Russia & carve it up solving all of your problems that’s why they’re brainwashing you. It was the CIA who encouraged your Elites to take down Russia knowing you will fail. When you borrow money you buy USA bonds as assets so you can borrow money to give to Ukraine to fight Russia, then you buy USA weapons to fight Russia that’s how USA is exporting our inflation into Europe. That’s why your social programs are being cut so you can divert the money to buy weapons & build weapon manufacturing.

    Your top talent will want to be educated at the best schools & work for the best companies that’s why they will migrate to China & USA. Germany no longer makes Heavy Machinery, China makes it. Germany not USA transferred the valuable tech to China. The best BMWs are made in China. Your elites thought they could control & take over China. The EU wanted to rule the World using the USA as its Military arm, Saudi Arabia/UAE as the financial arm & the Vatican as the Religious arm. But USA, China, & Russia havd other things in mind. You guys gave Blood thirsty Predator USA an excuse to crush you so USA being what it is will.

    Earth is entering a new phase of technology evolution the AI phase will separate China, Russia, & USA from the rest of the World. USA is resource Rich that’s why after difficult times it will prosper. What we’re looking at is a World where China, Russia, & USA are advanced countries while the rest of the world Hunger Games. Iran is also resource Rich & has excellent talent in its population that’s why Israel wants to destroy it. England is the hidden hand behind Israel whose blackmailing Trump & the USA to destroy Iran.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 4:55 AM ET #86

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    The Ukraine war forced Russia to cut ties with Europe then build relationships with Asia. Prior to the war many Russians viewed themselves as Europeans but no more. The Russians see the hate & discrimination so they forced themselves to turn to Asia where the growth & money is. Russia pivoted away from broke dying Europe to booming Asia. Do you now understand why USA’s Ukrainian operatives blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Russians are very sympathetic people, Putin is a good man, he knows what’s coming for Europe that’s why he keeps trying to reconnect your life line of resources & energy. What USA & China are doing to you is Evil but Putin has to put Russia first. Putin is begging you not to force him to destroy you.

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    The Ukraine war forced Russia to cut ties with Europe then build relationships with Asia. Prior to the war many Russians viewed themselves as Europeans but no more. The Russians see the hate & discrimination so they forced themselves to turn to Asia where the growth & money is. Russia pivoted away from broke dying Europe to booming Asia. Do you now understand why USA’s Ukrainian operatives blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Russians are very sympathetic people, Putin is a good man, he knows what’s coming for Europe that’s why he keeps trying to reconnect your life line of resources & energy. What USA & China are doing to you is Evil but Putin has to put Russia first. Putin is begging you not to force him to destroy you.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 5:03 AM ET #87

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    USA blew it being the reserve currency we abused it & messed up the entire global economy. China, Russia, etc.. want the USA dollar as the Reserve Currency, it was the EU who tried to replace the Dollar with the Euro as the reserve currency. The Dollar being the Reserve Currency is what hollowed out USA manufacturing making it too expensive to manufacture inside the USA.

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    USA blew it being the reserve currency we abused it & messed up the entire global economy. China, Russia, etc.. want the USA dollar as the Reserve Currency, it was the EU who tried to replace the Dollar with the Euro as the reserve currency. The Dollar being the Reserve Currency is what hollowed out USA manufacturing making it too expensive to manufacture inside the USA.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 5:08 AM ET #88

    EU has never tried to change the world reserve currency - mate Europe controls 4 out of 6 payment system used for international trades - if we wanted and it was in our interest we could block all world trade with the push of a button - and then we all had to trade like your idols in Russia does ! The only reason we can’t hurt them as bad as we could you - is because their entire system is built to be able to functions without our systems - if you come from a country that has conducted business on a large scale ever and used normal trading methods - your entire system is controlled by Europe - and yes Europe is the reason you are the world reserve currency together with your allies in the Middle East - Hehe you think Russia and China is the one helping you - sorry you must be trolling right ? Omg an_roll_laugh talk about brainwashedan_speechless

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    EU has never tried to change the world reserve currency - mate Europe controls 4 out of 6 payment system used for international trades - if we wanted and it was in our interest we could block all world trade with the push of a button - and then we all had to trade like your idols in Russia does ! The only reason we can’t hurt them as bad as we could you - is because their entire system is built to be able to functions without our systems - if you come from a country that has conducted business on a large scale ever and used normal trading methods - your entire system is controlled by Europe - and yes Europe is the reason you are the world reserve currency together with your allies in the Middle East - Hehe you think Russia and China is the one helping you - sorry you must be trolling right ? Omg an_roll_laugh talk about brainwashedan_speechless

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 5:17 AM ET #89

    Not only have we never pushed for euro becoming the world reserve currency - we have actively fought against it

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    Not only have we never pushed for euro becoming the world reserve currency - we have actively fought against it

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 1:25 PM ET #90

    Here we go again!The pedophile rapist POTUS has won the war 38 ,39 plus times. He is an expert in fucking up everything he touches midterms! Enjoy!

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    Here we go again!The pedophile rapist POTUS has won the war 38 ,39 plus times. He is an expert in fucking up everything he touches midterms! Enjoy!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 3:55 PM ET #91

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    Nonsense but there’s no point to this conversation anymore. Best of luck

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    Nonsense but there’s no point to this conversation anymore. Best of luck

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2026 - 4:38 PM ET #92

    Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise 

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    Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise

    Copenhagen (Denmark) tops the 2025 Global Liveability Index, making it the best city to live in the world.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise

    Copenhagen (Denmark) tops the 2025 Global Liveability Index, making it the best city to live in the world.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2026 - 3:59 AM ET #94

    You will never surpass us ! That would require a complete overhaul of your system - from infrastructure to childcare to political system and everything inbetween - compared to Denmark - US is not even a third world country - you are basically not a country at all - we own you on that many parameters (so comparing you to us would only set you up for fail - you are also too big a country probably) -  BUT you can easily improve massively - just changing your political system and tax the wealthy - that would take you so far in the right direction you don’t even realise 

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    You will never surpass us ! That would require a complete overhaul of your system - from infrastructure to childcare to political system and everything inbetween - compared to Denmark - US is not even a third world country - you are basically not a country at all - we own you on that many parameters (so comparing you to us would only set you up for fail - you are also too big a country probably) -  BUT you can easily improve massively - just changing your political system and tax the wealthy - that would take you so far in the right direction you don’t even realise 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2026 - 6:53 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise Copenhagen (Denmark) tops the 2025 Global Liveability Index, making it the best city to live in the world.

    But that is subjective....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise Copenhagen (Denmark) tops the 2025 Global Liveability Index, making it the best city to live in the world.

    But that is subjective....

     
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     Its a total difference in social mindset and priorities. Your society places emphasis more on what is good for the community and for the environment for the greater good where the US and our view of quasi capitalism is much more selfish and single minded that there are a faceless segment of the population TAKING from the other lot who feel that they are hard working and should not foot the bill for the social good. It manifests itself in pretty much every regard from educational priorities to the environment to healthcare to social programs and services. 

    I enjoy watching Clarkson Farms and this season had an episode where Jeremy and Co went for a drive up to your neck of the woods and showed the operations of a dairy farm which existed actually on the water and which was completely self sufficient and optimized to utilize solar and desalinization methods, using bread which came from local bakeries that was to be discarded etc and how everything worked in a large economic and social circle for the greater good of the entire society. It was an amazing setup and quite impressive but my first thought is this would NEVER exist in the USA because society does not work together and no way would subsidies required for this ecosystem be allowed in a capitalism economy and that nobody cares about harm to the environment or about waste or about use of pesticides or the over consumption of groundwater for this purpose...its all about capitalism and political subsidies to certain industries in a very inefficient and ineffective way.

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     Its a total difference in social mindset and priorities. Your society places emphasis more on what is good for the community and for the environment for the greater good where the US and our view of quasi capitalism is much more selfish and single minded that there are a faceless segment of the population TAKING from the other lot who feel that they are hard working and should not foot the bill for the social good. It manifests itself in pretty much every regard from educational priorities to the environment to healthcare to social programs and services. 

    I enjoy watching Clarkson Farms and this season had an episode where Jeremy and Co went for a drive up to your neck of the woods and showed the operations of a dairy farm which existed actually on the water and which was completely self sufficient and optimized to utilize solar and desalinization methods, using bread which came from local bakeries that was to be discarded etc and how everything worked in a large economic and social circle for the greater good of the entire society. It was an amazing setup and quite impressive but my first thought is this would NEVER exist in the USA because society does not work together and no way would subsidies required for this ecosystem be allowed in a capitalism economy and that nobody cares about harm to the environment or about waste or about use of pesticides or the over consumption of groundwater for this purpose...its all about capitalism and political subsidies to certain industries in a very inefficient and ineffective way.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2026 - 8:29 PM ET #97

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Calde13  Its a total difference in social mindset and priorities. Your society places emphasis more on what is good for the community and for the environment for the greater good where the US and our view of quasi capitalism is much more selfish and single minded that there are a faceless segment of the population TAKING from the other lot who feel that they are hard working and should not foot the bill for the social good. It manifests itself in pretty much every regard from educational priorities to the environment to healthcare to social programs and services.  I enjoy watching Clarkson Farms and this season had an episode where Jeremy and Co went for a drive up to your neck of the woods and showed the operations of a dairy farm which existed actually on the water and which was completely self sufficient and optimized to utilize solar and desalinization methods, using bread which came from local bakeries that was to be discarded etc and how everything worked in a large economic and social circle for the greater good of the entire society. It was an amazing setup and quite impressive but my first thought is this would NEVER exist in the USA because society does not work together and no way would subsidies required for this ecosystem be allowed in a capitalism economy and that nobody cares about harm to the environment or about waste or about use of pesticides or the over consumption of groundwater for this purpose...its all about capitalism and political subsidies to certain industries in a very inefficient and ineffective way.
    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Calde13  Its a total difference in social mindset and priorities. Your society places emphasis more on what is good for the community and for the environment for the greater good where the US and our view of quasi capitalism is much more selfish and single minded that there are a faceless segment of the population TAKING from the other lot who feel that they are hard working and should not foot the bill for the social good. It manifests itself in pretty much every regard from educational priorities to the environment to healthcare to social programs and services.  I enjoy watching Clarkson Farms and this season had an episode where Jeremy and Co went for a drive up to your neck of the woods and showed the operations of a dairy farm which existed actually on the water and which was completely self sufficient and optimized to utilize solar and desalinization methods, using bread which came from local bakeries that was to be discarded etc and how everything worked in a large economic and social circle for the greater good of the entire society. It was an amazing setup and quite impressive but my first thought is this would NEVER exist in the USA because society does not work together and no way would subsidies required for this ecosystem be allowed in a capitalism economy and that nobody cares about harm to the environment or about waste or about use of pesticides or the over consumption of groundwater for this purpose...its all about capitalism and political subsidies to certain industries in a very inefficient and ineffective way.
    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2026 - 9:09 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise Copenhagen (Denmark) tops the 2025 Global Liveability Index, making it the best city to live in the world. But that is subjective....

     

    We also won Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) for second year in a row etc. - we always win these - and they are only subjective to extend you can’t crown stuff like that objectively ! They do have objective measures they use for determining it - it is not just Frank and John from the local dinner deciding - they go like: Ok it is better not getting shot, how likely are you of that - Ok it is better not being poor - how likely is that etc. — Last time I took the time to look into these we won on pretty much all parameters 

    I do agree with wall. That it is a difference in priorities and mindset that for the most part dont make US a contender for these and which sets you apart from Europe in general - which is fine - you are not supposed to mimic us (that is for you to decide) - but you are not even the perfect version of your way of looking at things - we pretty much are ! Both Sweden and Denmark for instance has part of our land where people live entirely on their own - their own rules, no government interventions - no taxes etc. - that is what a mindset like yours would consider the optimal system — You have the worst of both worlds - you are not free and the government doesn’t take care of you 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Hehe “best of luck” I literally come from the best place on earth objectively speaking - we pretty much win that award every single year - to the point where I don’t even want to waste my time reading up on all the parameters we “owned” the world on - it should be me that wished you good luck - cause you will sure as hell need it - but let’s not kid ourselves here - I don’t care at all rather you have good luck or not - so why pretend otherwise Copenhagen (Denmark) tops the 2025 Global Liveability Index, making it the best city to live in the world. But that is subjective....

     

    We also won Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) for second year in a row etc. - we always win these - and they are only subjective to extend you can’t crown stuff like that objectively ! They do have objective measures they use for determining it - it is not just Frank and John from the local dinner deciding - they go like: Ok it is better not getting shot, how likely are you of that - Ok it is better not being poor - how likely is that etc. — Last time I took the time to look into these we won on pretty much all parameters 

    I do agree with wall. That it is a difference in priorities and mindset that for the most part dont make US a contender for these and which sets you apart from Europe in general - which is fine - you are not supposed to mimic us (that is for you to decide) - but you are not even the perfect version of your way of looking at things - we pretty much are ! Both Sweden and Denmark for instance has part of our land where people live entirely on their own - their own rules, no government interventions - no taxes etc. - that is what a mindset like yours would consider the optimal system — You have the worst of both worlds - you are not free and the government doesn’t take care of you 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2026 - 9:42 PM ET #99

    Your guys biggest advantage - was that we have been spoon-fed your “propaganda” for at least my entire lifetime - we have watched your movies and tv-series - we watched Friends too - just like you did etc. - so for years you have had free access to our brain - deciding what subjects we should find important - what brands to wear to be cool etc. - and you have painted an image of how you should be perceived as country - and how important you are for us all - that is the image Trump is tearing down ! You guys had the most important thing for staying relevant on the global scene (you had the narrative) - without that you lost so much power on the global influence you have 

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    Your guys biggest advantage - was that we have been spoon-fed your “propaganda” for at least my entire lifetime - we have watched your movies and tv-series - we watched Friends too - just like you did etc. - so for years you have had free access to our brain - deciding what subjects we should find important - what brands to wear to be cool etc. - and you have painted an image of how you should be perceived as country - and how important you are for us all - that is the image Trump is tearing down ! You guys had the most important thing for staying relevant on the global scene (you had the narrative) - without that you lost so much power on the global influence you have 

     
     
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    What a weird coinkydink that FresnoHawk6812 - a brand new profile in a SPORTS-BETTING website, would navigate immediately to post in the Politics forum, and in the same thread as another new profile  FresnoHawk68 

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    What a weird coinkydink that FresnoHawk6812 - a brand new profile in a SPORTS-BETTING website, would navigate immediately to post in the Politics forum, and in the same thread as another new profile  FresnoHawk68 

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