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    😲 Trump, in effect, *SURRENDERS* to Iran 😲 for the chaos HE created by STARTING a war!

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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 6:37 PM ET #101

    I logged in from my Google account which is 6812

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    I logged in from my Google account which is 6812

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 6:44 PM ET #102

    I never intended to post anything but things got out of hand betting soccer so I reached out for help, in the course of that I disclose I bet on Geopolitics, someone asked for my opinion on the Midterms against my better judgement I delivered in the soccer section. I tried to divert the conversation over here, away from soccer. Then got banned!

    I must have a neutral position to wager on Geopolitics & I have personal views. Delivering the facts & sharing personal views do not fit the mold.

    Unicorns are not acceptable & banished in the Western World especially in Political forums.

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    I never intended to post anything but things got out of hand betting soccer so I reached out for help, in the course of that I disclose I bet on Geopolitics, someone asked for my opinion on the Midterms against my better judgement I delivered in the soccer section. I tried to divert the conversation over here, away from soccer. Then got banned!

    I must have a neutral position to wager on Geopolitics & I have personal views. Delivering the facts & sharing personal views do not fit the mold.

    Unicorns are not acceptable & banished in the Western World especially in Political forums.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 7:14 PM ET #103

    @FresnoHawk68

     How are you an expert on all of this given you have only a few posts in this area? You cannot have more than one account and the other was banned since it was newer than this one. You were boxed before it seems for political combative posting in the soccer section. That has nothing to do with western world or unicorns or whatever else you have made up in your head.

     

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    @FresnoHawk68

     How are you an expert on all of this given you have only a few posts in this area? You cannot have more than one account and the other was banned since it was newer than this one. You were boxed before it seems for political combative posting in the soccer section. That has nothing to do with western world or unicorns or whatever else you have made up in your head.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 7:31 PM ET #104

    I spent decades as a Consultant in Corp America I know more about Geopolitics than any of my peers, that’s it, never claimed to be an expert. I did not intend to set up 2 accounts! Google did it! Google places an icon that says log in using Google, I had now clue it was something new.

    I was asked a question I answered the ? plus some! Not once have I threatened or name called any user on this site. I saw in the politics sections guys calling Republicans names claiming all Republicans are this & that, I simply stated it’s not True.

    I was curious how guys would respond to facts. I’m no longer curious thus I have no reason to post about Geopolitics.

    Adios

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    I spent decades as a Consultant in Corp America I know more about Geopolitics than any of my peers, that’s it, never claimed to be an expert. I did not intend to set up 2 accounts! Google did it! Google places an icon that says log in using Google, I had now clue it was something new.

    I was asked a question I answered the ? plus some! Not once have I threatened or name called any user on this site. I saw in the politics sections guys calling Republicans names claiming all Republicans are this & that, I simply stated it’s not True.

    I was curious how guys would respond to facts. I’m no longer curious thus I have no reason to post about Geopolitics.

    Adios

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 9:41 PM ET #105

    MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL

     

    Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz

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    MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL

     

    Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 10:29 PM ET #106

    Trump & the Pentagon are lying they cannot control the SOH! 12 Miles off the coast of any Nation is that nation’s territorial waters! Turkey charges fees in its waters! Iran can legally charge fees. But in a time of War Iran has the Weapons to control all of the SOH & Persian Gulf. If USA sends a Destroyer, etc..  into the Persian Gulf the ship will exhaust its self defense munitions then get out before it gets damaged to reload. Air Defense missiles for ships cannot be reloaded at sea you have to return to port. Iran has mini subs for shallow Persian Gulf, under water drones, Artillery, Guns, mines, & 30,000 speed boats with mounted machine guns & Air defense missiles.

    There are websites that track every ship entering, leaving, & in the Persian Gulf. USA uses GPS Navigation which can also be tracked. We have a strong understanding of what’s coming & going in the Persian Gulf.

    Furthermore there’s the issue of Insurance nobody is going to insure ships in the Persian Gulf if Iran is a threat to attack ships. If dumb ass Trump uses USA to insure ships the American people will Impeach Trump ASAP. CNN has posted the Damaged ships & Aircraft Carrier that have return from the 39 day war in the Persian Gulf, clearly Trump & the Pentagon are lying.

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    Trump & the Pentagon are lying they cannot control the SOH! 12 Miles off the coast of any Nation is that nation’s territorial waters! Turkey charges fees in its waters! Iran can legally charge fees. But in a time of War Iran has the Weapons to control all of the SOH & Persian Gulf. If USA sends a Destroyer, etc..  into the Persian Gulf the ship will exhaust its self defense munitions then get out before it gets damaged to reload. Air Defense missiles for ships cannot be reloaded at sea you have to return to port. Iran has mini subs for shallow Persian Gulf, under water drones, Artillery, Guns, mines, & 30,000 speed boats with mounted machine guns & Air defense missiles.

    There are websites that track every ship entering, leaving, & in the Persian Gulf. USA uses GPS Navigation which can also be tracked. We have a strong understanding of what’s coming & going in the Persian Gulf.

    Furthermore there’s the issue of Insurance nobody is going to insure ships in the Persian Gulf if Iran is a threat to attack ships. If dumb ass Trump uses USA to insure ships the American people will Impeach Trump ASAP. CNN has posted the Damaged ships & Aircraft Carrier that have return from the 39 day war in the Persian Gulf, clearly Trump & the Pentagon are lying.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 11:01 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL   Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz

     

    9.6% rise in oil prices. an_speechless

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL   Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz

     

    9.6% rise in oil prices. an_speechless

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2026 - 11:47 PM ET #108

    @fubah2 when the West sanctioned Russian Oil in 2020, Oil jumped to around $130 a barrel which is at a minimum where oil futures should be right now. Hell $200 a barrel is more like it. Some buyers have paid $130 a barrel before the cease fire. The Future Price & what buyers are actually paying are 2 different Prices. This entire episode demonstrates the Global Economy is a Fraud, we should all be totally freaked out.

     

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    @fubah2 when the West sanctioned Russian Oil in 2020, Oil jumped to around $130 a barrel which is at a minimum where oil futures should be right now. Hell $200 a barrel is more like it. Some buyers have paid $130 a barrel before the cease fire. The Future Price & what buyers are actually paying are 2 different Prices. This entire episode demonstrates the Global Economy is a Fraud, we should all be totally freaked out.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2026 - 12:01 AM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL   Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz   9.6% rise in oil prices.

     

    Local gas prices expected to rise again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL   Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz   9.6% rise in oil prices.

     

    Local gas prices expected to rise again...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2026 - 3:09 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL   Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz   9.6% rise in oil prices.

     

    @fubah2

     We might expect it to rise a bit more soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: MONDAY:  MARKETS FALL   Oil prices jump more than 9% after Trump announces new blockade of Iranian ports and the Boss of the trump Crime Family is setting up a "protection racket" for Strait of Hormuz   9.6% rise in oil prices.

     

    @fubah2

     We might expect it to rise a bit more soon

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2026 - 6:00 PM ET #111

    an_blowhorn Two more US service members killed 

     

    The deaths bring the number of US service members who have died in the nearly five-month conflict [WHICH TRUMP STARTED] to 16 dead [on trump's watch], according to the US military’s defense casualty analysis system.

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    an_blowhorn Two more US service members killed 

     

    The deaths bring the number of US service members who have died in the nearly five-month conflict [WHICH TRUMP STARTED] to 16 dead [on trump's watch], according to the US military’s defense casualty analysis system.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2026 - 6:18 PM ET #112

    Another one is MIA 

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    Another one is MIA 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2026 - 12:14 AM ET #113

    I have sources from the CIA who have buddies in Military Med Evac serving in the Gulf saying there’s many injured soldiers from the Iranian attacks on USA bases. On top of the reported 2 dead Military Med Evac claims @ least 3 others died during transportation.

    The USA bases in the Middle East are not protected well. Air Defense has always been USA’s weakness among USA’s weapon platforms. The Patriot Air Defense is not Good, it requires lots of man power & is Super Expensive. THAAD has awesome Radars but the Air Defense Missiles suck balls & are Super Expensive. Basically USA can shoot down Planes & Bombers but spending 1 million to shoot down a $30,000 drone will lose Wars. Our Air Defense launches 2 Missiles = 2 Million dollars to miss incoming Iranian Ballistic Missiles!

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    I have sources from the CIA who have buddies in Military Med Evac serving in the Gulf saying there’s many injured soldiers from the Iranian attacks on USA bases. On top of the reported 2 dead Military Med Evac claims @ least 3 others died during transportation.

    The USA bases in the Middle East are not protected well. Air Defense has always been USA’s weakness among USA’s weapon platforms. The Patriot Air Defense is not Good, it requires lots of man power & is Super Expensive. THAAD has awesome Radars but the Air Defense Missiles suck balls & are Super Expensive. Basically USA can shoot down Planes & Bombers but spending 1 million to shoot down a $30,000 drone will lose Wars. Our Air Defense launches 2 Missiles = 2 Million dollars to miss incoming Iranian Ballistic Missiles!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2026 - 9:11 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Another one is MIA

     

     

     

     

    Another died Saturday after the two reported deaths.........on trump/republican watch

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Another one is MIA

     

     

     

     

    Another died Saturday after the two reported deaths.........on trump/republican watch

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2026 - 5:18 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Another died Saturday after the two reported deaths.........on trump/republican watch

     

    July 20: Trump's War on Iran,

    2 oil tankers in Strait of Hormuz have exploded

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Another died Saturday after the two reported deaths.........on trump/republican watch

     

    July 20: Trump's War on Iran,

    2 oil tankers in Strait of Hormuz have exploded

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2026 - 7:38 PM ET #116

    @fubah2 The guys in the Military MedVac have disclosed details on Twitter, verifying my above post. 

     

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    @fubah2 The guys in the Military MedVac have disclosed details on Twitter, verifying my above post. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2026 - 7:47 PM ET #117

    The US Navy is not built to Wage War in the Persian Gulf in 2026. Whereas Iran’s Navy is! Iran has Good ballistic missiles & Good drones but the Radars are so so at best. Trump launched recent attacks with those facts in mind. But the Iranians got China’s radars during the cease fire to work Phenomenally catching the Pentagon off guard = Again USA underestimated Iran’s military capabilities & China’s weapon Platforms.

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    The US Navy is not built to Wage War in the Persian Gulf in 2026. Whereas Iran’s Navy is! Iran has Good ballistic missiles & Good drones but the Radars are so so at best. Trump launched recent attacks with those facts in mind. But the Iranians got China’s radars during the cease fire to work Phenomenally catching the Pentagon off guard = Again USA underestimated Iran’s military capabilities & China’s weapon Platforms.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another died Saturday after the two reported deaths.........on trump/republican watch  

    July 20: Trump's War on Iran,

     

    2 oil tankers in Strait of Hormuz have exploded

     

    Likely to raise gas prices further. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Another died Saturday after the two reported deaths.........on trump/republican watch  

    July 20: Trump's War on Iran,

     

    2 oil tankers in Strait of Hormuz have exploded

     

    Likely to raise gas prices further. . .

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2026 - 8:14 PM ET #119

    US avg Gas prices back above $4 /gallon 

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    US avg Gas prices back above $4 /gallon 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2026 - 9:22 PM ET #120

    Yes, I have a Trump Tank report from today at the local QT and it was north of 4 bucks a gallon here as well. Chevron who lists higher was close to 5 and over 5 for diesel.

     

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    Yes, I have a Trump Tank report from today at the local QT and it was north of 4 bucks a gallon here as well. Chevron who lists higher was close to 5 and over 5 for diesel.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2026 - 10:17 PM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yes, I have a Trump Tank report from today at the local QT and it was north of 4 bucks a gallon here as well. Chevron who lists higher was close to 5 and over 5 for diesel.

     

    @wallstreetcappers  peace_5

     I am fortunate in a way because I don't drive near as much now as I used to.  One tank stretches a long way for me and I use my bike for grocery shopping on most days.  Good exercise too and my cardiologist highly recommends it.

    But being a compassionate person by nature - like you - I feel for those who need frequent use of their vehicles and thus cannot escape the carnage which trump has brought to the world with higher gas prices everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yes, I have a Trump Tank report from today at the local QT and it was north of 4 bucks a gallon here as well. Chevron who lists higher was close to 5 and over 5 for diesel.

     

    @wallstreetcappers  peace_5

     I am fortunate in a way because I don't drive near as much now as I used to.  One tank stretches a long way for me and I use my bike for grocery shopping on most days.  Good exercise too and my cardiologist highly recommends it.

    But being a compassionate person by nature - like you - I feel for those who need frequent use of their vehicles and thus cannot escape the carnage which trump has brought to the world with higher gas prices everywhere.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2026 - 11:25 PM ET #122

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     Nobody escapes Inflation!

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    @fubah2

     Nobody escapes Inflation!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2026 - 2:03 AM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yes, I have a Trump Tank report from today at the local QT and it was north of 4 bucks a gallon here as well. Chevron who lists higher was close to 5 and over 5 for diesel.

     

    Yep,  diesel is a hidden cost to all of us.....thanks to trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yes, I have a Trump Tank report from today at the local QT and it was north of 4 bucks a gallon here as well. Chevron who lists higher was close to 5 and over 5 for diesel.

     

    Yep,  diesel is a hidden cost to all of us.....thanks to trump.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2026 - 11:39 PM ET #124

    an_speak  Plans for the future of the Strait of Hormuz – and their chance of success – [an upheaval caused entirely by trump's unprovoked military attack on IRAN] change almost daily.

    Trump said an agreement could be reached this week.

    “It could happen. Tomorrow or the next day,” Trump said Tuesday. “A lot of progress has been made. And they called me and they said, ‘Please let’s talk.’”

     


    an_lightMEANWHILE, the much more believable & trustworthy of the two (ie, IRAN) denies talks are taking place with the US.

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    an_speak  Plans for the future of the Strait of Hormuz – and their chance of success – [an upheaval caused entirely by trump's unprovoked military attack on IRAN] change almost daily.

    Trump said an agreement could be reached this week.

    “It could happen. Tomorrow or the next day,” Trump said Tuesday. “A lot of progress has been made. And they called me and they said, ‘Please let’s talk.’”

     


    an_lightMEANWHILE, the much more believable & trustworthy of the two (ie, IRAN) denies talks are taking place with the US.

     
     
    FresnoHawk68
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2026 - 12:14 AM ET #125

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     Iran has been telling the Truth for years! It’s not just Iran discrediting Trump, the mediators the Pakistanis say no talks are happening, Saudis & Kuwait are also saying no talks.

    Iran & Oman are figuring out which parts of the SOH to open & they will charge fees. Meanwhile Iran has hit 4 ships trying to sneak through the SOH & Iran attacked the US base in Kuwait, USA has not retaliated yet when we usually do.

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    @fubah2

     Iran has been telling the Truth for years! It’s not just Iran discrediting Trump, the mediators the Pakistanis say no talks are happening, Saudis & Kuwait are also saying no talks.

    Iran & Oman are figuring out which parts of the SOH to open & they will charge fees. Meanwhile Iran has hit 4 ships trying to sneak through the SOH & Iran attacked the US base in Kuwait, USA has not retaliated yet when we usually do.

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