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    Da_Oracle
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 3:16 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydeez40oz:


    WHY do you like a rookie QB in an away game versus Manning on offense and one of the best defense in the League?

    Teddy Bridgewater is a rookie? Hmmm, news to me.  Never the less, don't see myself backing the Vikings here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydeez40oz:


    WHY do you like a rookie QB in an away game versus Manning on offense and one of the best defense in the League?

    Teddy Bridgewater is a rookie? Hmmm, news to me.  Never the less, don't see myself backing the Vikings here.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 4:04 PM ET #27

    Phixer, left a short message regarding injured soldiers a few days back Wondering if you saw it on college forum
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    Phixer, left a short message regarding injured soldiers a few days back Wondering if you saw it on college forum
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 4:11 PM ET #28

    @ phixer good luck this week .thanks  for all the great insight!!! gladly appreciated. please accept me as a friend....
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    @ phixer good luck this week .thanks  for all the great insight!!! gladly appreciated. please accept me as a friend....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 4:53 PM ET #29

    Crocket Gilmore out againts steelers
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    Crocket Gilmore out againts steelers
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 4:58 PM ET #30

    BOL Phixer
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    BOL Phixer
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 5:27 PM ET #31

    cheers for the answers regarding vikings,guys...i just thought denver has been less than impressive so far,defense obviously carrying them and manning has had his troubles...but i also see minnesota has benefited from weak schedule so not so keen now.im not a big nfl fan by the way,mostly follow others.
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    cheers for the answers regarding vikings,guys...i just thought denver has been less than impressive so far,defense obviously carrying them and manning has had his troubles...but i also see minnesota has benefited from weak schedule so not so keen now.im not a big nfl fan by the way,mostly follow others.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 5:58 PM ET #32

    BOL this weekend Phixer

    Any thoughts about how there will/should be more money on a smaller slate of games this week considering its the first week of byes, and how that might effect the betting circuit?

    Also, I have to think the game in England should draw extra Euros, in some shape or form. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on that.

    Good luck
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    BOL this weekend Phixer

    Any thoughts about how there will/should be more money on a smaller slate of games this week considering its the first week of byes, and how that might effect the betting circuit?

    Also, I have to think the game in England should draw extra Euros, in some shape or form. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on that.

    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 6:13 PM ET #33

    Huge fan Phixer. Good luck this week. 
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    Huge fan Phixer. Good luck this week. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 6:23 PM ET #34

    HABS - Use your own Thread
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    HABS - Use your own Thread
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:03 PM ET #35

    NFL Week 4: TNF PIT Steelers vs BAL Ravens

    This is a real beauty to cap. I can prove easily that the Steelers are the best bet here and with the same success I can prove the opposite. One thing is for sure - the Steelers are going for a very strong season. Why? Ha ha ha. Statistically - each season Big Ben missed 4 games (he is expected to miss 4 to 6, but knowing his mental commitment to the game and the band of brothers - we will see him sooner than later throwing the ball for the Steelers) - the Steelers reached the Superbowl: 2005 when the Steelers went 2-2 without Big Ben and 2010 - when the Steelers went 3-1. Interestingly enough it happens every 5 seasons and now is the time the Steelers did it again.

    Let's examine the first games of Big Ben's absences in those seasons to see how his absence has affected the rest of the team.

    In 2005 the Steelers showed up for the game in week 9 against the Favre and the 1-6 Pack at Lambeau Field and won 20-10 utilizing Favre on turnovers.

    In 2010 the Steelers opened the season without Big Ben and also won in OT 15-9 over the Falcons.

    So, if I'd want to prove that the first game without Big Ben is stepped up play by his team mates - I guess I'd have a shot at convincing you.

    Michael Vick says this is his last chance to start an NFL game and he was spending night after night this week memorizing the plays. I really don't trust that person and the player as he cost me lots of money in the past always making me to be suspicious of him as an ex street gambler of a person. He paid his dues to the society and I am no one to judge him -  but I can say that this week all the odds are against him so that may be a good reason it will work in the Steelers' favor.

    The other side would say - the Ravens are in a hole and need this game. Vick is a left handed QB and the Steelers have to readjust all their offensive play calling and may get confused during the game which can easily cause interceptions and fumbles. There is a lots of validity in those arguments and if the game was not in Pittsburgh and if it was not the rivalry where the Steelers fans expect the Steelers to leave the heart and soul on the field for their injured Brother - if not all this - I'd either pass or play the Ravens here. But the drama and the true heroism of the moment has a value here. The insult of being 2.5 point underdogs against a 0-3 team and all this at their home will give the Steelers lots of locker room steam. And I wouldn't want to be a Raven's player at that game. Lots of hard plays and penalties. That is how I see this game.

    But the real tiebreaker for me was what Flacco had to say about this game. Because what he said is against all the logic. You all know that the Ravens  quarterbacks coach Marty Mornhinweg was Vick's offensive coordinator for five of the previous six seasons, including last season when both were with the Jets. This type of familiarity could prove valuable considering it's a short week. But Flacco preferred to say that he would prefer to play against Big Ben rather than against Vick. Joe Flacco is 5-8 (including playoffs) against Ben Roethlisberger but he still wishes he was healthy for Thursday's Ravens-Steelers game: "As a competitor, it’s always nice to face guys that you’ve been going against for a while. You never like to see somebody injured either, and have to sit out." Wow. And all this 0-3 situation has not even affected the Ravens while same Flacco claims the lack of self confidence is the main factor of the Raven's downfall.

    All this and now go and decide. How can anyone not fear the Ravens when they lost last two games by a combined 8 points while the loss to the Raiders was the one that really surprised. But the Ravens aren't only 0-3. they are 0-6 including preseason games and something is really rotten in that organization.

    So, if your head is not mixed up enough - let me hand to you this - the public is all over the Ravens. Sharps especially. And there's not a big money yet coming in on the Seelers. But Vegas is adamant to keep the line at 2.5 points while Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook lead the way determining that line after all the bad week the books had. Invitation - certainly.

    Will it happen? I don't know but hope that by buying a half point I will enjoy the game for 3 units only. After all it is impossible not to have money on this game and if already a money - small amount.

    If Big Ben was playing - I capped that game at 23-21 in favor of the Steelers, but with Vick it is a big unknown and big unknowns in my book of this sort end at the ties and going to the OT. But don't take that prop because it is not handicapping but charlatanism to cap that way.

    Ths is a 3 Units Play

    PIT Steelers +3  -120    360$

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    NFL Week 4: TNF PIT Steelers vs BAL Ravens

    This is a real beauty to cap. I can prove easily that the Steelers are the best bet here and with the same success I can prove the opposite. One thing is for sure - the Steelers are going for a very strong season. Why? Ha ha ha. Statistically - each season Big Ben missed 4 games (he is expected to miss 4 to 6, but knowing his mental commitment to the game and the band of brothers - we will see him sooner than later throwing the ball for the Steelers) - the Steelers reached the Superbowl: 2005 when the Steelers went 2-2 without Big Ben and 2010 - when the Steelers went 3-1. Interestingly enough it happens every 5 seasons and now is the time the Steelers did it again.

    Let's examine the first games of Big Ben's absences in those seasons to see how his absence has affected the rest of the team.

    In 2005 the Steelers showed up for the game in week 9 against the Favre and the 1-6 Pack at Lambeau Field and won 20-10 utilizing Favre on turnovers.

    In 2010 the Steelers opened the season without Big Ben and also won in OT 15-9 over the Falcons.

    So, if I'd want to prove that the first game without Big Ben is stepped up play by his team mates - I guess I'd have a shot at convincing you.

    Michael Vick says this is his last chance to start an NFL game and he was spending night after night this week memorizing the plays. I really don't trust that person and the player as he cost me lots of money in the past always making me to be suspicious of him as an ex street gambler of a person. He paid his dues to the society and I am no one to judge him -  but I can say that this week all the odds are against him so that may be a good reason it will work in the Steelers' favor.

    The other side would say - the Ravens are in a hole and need this game. Vick is a left handed QB and the Steelers have to readjust all their offensive play calling and may get confused during the game which can easily cause interceptions and fumbles. There is a lots of validity in those arguments and if the game was not in Pittsburgh and if it was not the rivalry where the Steelers fans expect the Steelers to leave the heart and soul on the field for their injured Brother - if not all this - I'd either pass or play the Ravens here. But the drama and the true heroism of the moment has a value here. The insult of being 2.5 point underdogs against a 0-3 team and all this at their home will give the Steelers lots of locker room steam. And I wouldn't want to be a Raven's player at that game. Lots of hard plays and penalties. That is how I see this game.

    But the real tiebreaker for me was what Flacco had to say about this game. Because what he said is against all the logic. You all know that the Ravens  quarterbacks coach Marty Mornhinweg was Vick's offensive coordinator for five of the previous six seasons, including last season when both were with the Jets. This type of familiarity could prove valuable considering it's a short week. But Flacco preferred to say that he would prefer to play against Big Ben rather than against Vick. Joe Flacco is 5-8 (including playoffs) against Ben Roethlisberger but he still wishes he was healthy for Thursday's Ravens-Steelers game: "As a competitor, it’s always nice to face guys that you’ve been going against for a while. You never like to see somebody injured either, and have to sit out." Wow. And all this 0-3 situation has not even affected the Ravens while same Flacco claims the lack of self confidence is the main factor of the Raven's downfall.

    All this and now go and decide. How can anyone not fear the Ravens when they lost last two games by a combined 8 points while the loss to the Raiders was the one that really surprised. But the Ravens aren't only 0-3. they are 0-6 including preseason games and something is really rotten in that organization.

    So, if your head is not mixed up enough - let me hand to you this - the public is all over the Ravens. Sharps especially. And there's not a big money yet coming in on the Seelers. But Vegas is adamant to keep the line at 2.5 points while Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook lead the way determining that line after all the bad week the books had. Invitation - certainly.

    Will it happen? I don't know but hope that by buying a half point I will enjoy the game for 3 units only. After all it is impossible not to have money on this game and if already a money - small amount.

    If Big Ben was playing - I capped that game at 23-21 in favor of the Steelers, but with Vick it is a big unknown and big unknowns in my book of this sort end at the ties and going to the OT. But don't take that prop because it is not handicapping but charlatanism to cap that way.

    Ths is a 3 Units Play

    PIT Steelers +3  -120    360$

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:09 PM ET #36

    I meant 33-21 - typo
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    I meant 33-21 - typo
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:17 PM ET #37

    NFL Week 4: ARI Cardinals vs STL Rams First Half

    I believe the line released for the first half will be 4.5 points. This money is awaiting the books opening the first half lines. I rarely post picks that I haven't betted yet but want to make a point here.

    This is a 3 Units Play

    ARI Cardinals -4.5 -110  First Half (whatever the line will be)  330$

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    NFL Week 4: ARI Cardinals vs STL Rams First Half

    I believe the line released for the first half will be 4.5 points. This money is awaiting the books opening the first half lines. I rarely post picks that I haven't betted yet but want to make a point here.

    This is a 3 Units Play

    ARI Cardinals -4.5 -110  First Half (whatever the line will be)  330$

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:22 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    NFL Week 4: ARI Cardinals vs STL Rams First Half

    I believe the line released for the first half will be 4.5 points. This money is awaiting the books opening the first half lines. I rarely post picks that I haven't betted yet but want to make a point here.

    This is a 3 Units Play

    ARI Cardinals -4.5 -110  First Half (whatever the line will be)  330$


    Like your posts and would like more insight into just the first half and not the game?  If you think AZ will be up by a TD at half, what makes you think StL will make a comeback with a so so offense with bad OLine on the road no less?  
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    NFL Week 4: ARI Cardinals vs STL Rams First Half

    I believe the line released for the first half will be 4.5 points. This money is awaiting the books opening the first half lines. I rarely post picks that I haven't betted yet but want to make a point here.

    This is a 3 Units Play

    ARI Cardinals -4.5 -110  First Half (whatever the line will be)  330$


    Like your posts and would like more insight into just the first half and not the game?  If you think AZ will be up by a TD at half, what makes you think StL will make a comeback with a so so offense with bad OLine on the road no less?  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:25 PM ET #39

    NFL Week 4: ARI Cardinals vs STL Rams

    This is a 5 Units Play

    ARI Cardinals -7  -105   525$

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    NFL Week 4: ARI Cardinals vs STL Rams

    This is a 5 Units Play

    ARI Cardinals -7  -105   525$

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:29 PM ET #40

    NFL Week 4: DEN Broncos vs MIN Vikings

    This is a 5 Units Play

    DEN Broncos -6.5  -110   550$

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    NFL Week 4: DEN Broncos vs MIN Vikings

    This is a 5 Units Play

    DEN Broncos -6.5  -110   550$

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:53 PM ET #41

    Would take denver-7
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    Would take denver-7
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 7:55 PM ET #42

    Phix, not sure how you interpreted Flacco's Big Ben comment. It sounded to me like an honest and "standup guy" kind of assessment towards a guy who's arguably been his chief rival for the last decade in the sport as they are obviously division foes, they have clashed in the playoffs, and the times the games were decided by 3 points or less in those games is kind of eerie. 

    Anything competitive I've ever been in in my life....whether it was sports, or something intellectual, or my big money fantasy baseball league that I love(if I'm in the World Series, I want to beat my guy fair and square and I'm not cheering if I see Kershaw or Trout are injured that week), or even battling a rival clan in Call of Duty years ago..... or ANYTHING where's a competition involved, I think any true "dude" would want to face his rival when the chips are on the table. At least I know I would. Almost like a Bret hart "to be the man, you have to beat the man" mindset. 

    So I'm not sure how you took that comment, but to "me," that was a pretty cool and honest remark to him to make. And a very confident one. 

    GL with your play. Probably gonna pass on this TNF stinker, myself. 
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    Phix, not sure how you interpreted Flacco's Big Ben comment. It sounded to me like an honest and "standup guy" kind of assessment towards a guy who's arguably been his chief rival for the last decade in the sport as they are obviously division foes, they have clashed in the playoffs, and the times the games were decided by 3 points or less in those games is kind of eerie. 

    Anything competitive I've ever been in in my life....whether it was sports, or something intellectual, or my big money fantasy baseball league that I love(if I'm in the World Series, I want to beat my guy fair and square and I'm not cheering if I see Kershaw or Trout are injured that week), or even battling a rival clan in Call of Duty years ago..... or ANYTHING where's a competition involved, I think any true "dude" would want to face his rival when the chips are on the table. At least I know I would. Almost like a Bret hart "to be the man, you have to beat the man" mindset. 

    So I'm not sure how you took that comment, but to "me," that was a pretty cool and honest remark to him to make. And a very confident one. 

    GL with your play. Probably gonna pass on this TNF stinker, myself. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 8:08 PM ET #43

    Missed spell sorry would you take denver -7???
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    Missed spell sorry would you take denver -7???
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 8:41 PM ET #44

    So you are saying:
    BAL: 0-4 ATS
    DEN & ARI: 4-0 ATS

    On week 4?


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    So you are saying:
    BAL: 0-4 ATS
    DEN & ARI: 4-0 ATS

    On week 4?


     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 8:49 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:

    Phix, not sure how you interpreted Flacco's Big Ben comment. It sounded to me like an honest and "standup guy" kind of assessment towards a guy who's arguably been his chief rival for the last decade in the sport as they are obviously division foes, they have clashed in the playoffs, and the times the games were decided by 3 points or less in those games is kind of eerie. 

    Anything competitive I've ever been in in my life....whether it was sports, or something intellectual, or my big money fantasy baseball league that I love(if I'm in the World Series, I want to beat my guy fair and square and I'm not cheering if I see Kershaw or Trout are injured that week), or even battling a rival clan in Call of Duty years ago..... or ANYTHING where's a competition involved, I think any true "dude" would want to face his rival when the chips are on the table. At least I know I would. Almost like a Bret hart "to be the man, you have to beat the man" mindset. 

    So I'm not sure how you took that comment, but to "me," that was a pretty cool and honest remark to him to make. And a very confident one. 

    GL with your play. Probably gonna pass on this TNF stinker, myself. 
     i understand what you're saying and at first that was my impression too. but with the same breath vick's ex coach inside info and the lack of self confidence posts at the raven's page brought me to a conclusion that in psychological mind games flacco expressing fair play expression while all around him is screaming - we want to win a game nop0 matter what - all that does not add up in my book and seems like an early excuse to the "possible lack of intensity" on flacco's part. and no flacco - no offense for the ravens
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    Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:

    Phix, not sure how you interpreted Flacco's Big Ben comment. It sounded to me like an honest and "standup guy" kind of assessment towards a guy who's arguably been his chief rival for the last decade in the sport as they are obviously division foes, they have clashed in the playoffs, and the times the games were decided by 3 points or less in those games is kind of eerie. 

    Anything competitive I've ever been in in my life....whether it was sports, or something intellectual, or my big money fantasy baseball league that I love(if I'm in the World Series, I want to beat my guy fair and square and I'm not cheering if I see Kershaw or Trout are injured that week), or even battling a rival clan in Call of Duty years ago..... or ANYTHING where's a competition involved, I think any true "dude" would want to face his rival when the chips are on the table. At least I know I would. Almost like a Bret hart "to be the man, you have to beat the man" mindset. 

    So I'm not sure how you took that comment, but to "me," that was a pretty cool and honest remark to him to make. And a very confident one. 

    GL with your play. Probably gonna pass on this TNF stinker, myself. 
     i understand what you're saying and at first that was my impression too. but with the same breath vick's ex coach inside info and the lack of self confidence posts at the raven's page brought me to a conclusion that in psychological mind games flacco expressing fair play expression while all around him is screaming - we want to win a game nop0 matter what - all that does not add up in my book and seems like an early excuse to the "possible lack of intensity" on flacco's part. and no flacco - no offense for the ravens
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 8:56 PM ET #46

    i'm answering this because i dont want to appear disrespectful to those guys inquiring and second guessing what i say. remember - it is your money you are betting with. not mine. i bet with mine and i took denver -6.5. would is a theoretical and in my book there are no woulds and shoulds and also would haves and should haves.  if a grandma had balls she'd be grandpa.
    also questions that are directed to reexamine my conviction about certain teams going 4-0 and the others 0-4. while i understand the irony in that particular question that is meant to emphasize the role of number 4 in all that - and my answer is not to that question - generalkly speaking - i do not go into my pocket and risk my money only for kicks. i bet when i am 100% convinced my bet is worth the money.
    otherwise i pass.
    please focus on capping and betting and not on what i think i would take or do in that or the other situation that becomes hypothetical for me once i made up my mind and took the bet
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    i'm answering this because i dont want to appear disrespectful to those guys inquiring and second guessing what i say. remember - it is your money you are betting with. not mine. i bet with mine and i took denver -6.5. would is a theoretical and in my book there are no woulds and shoulds and also would haves and should haves.  if a grandma had balls she'd be grandpa.
    also questions that are directed to reexamine my conviction about certain teams going 4-0 and the others 0-4. while i understand the irony in that particular question that is meant to emphasize the role of number 4 in all that - and my answer is not to that question - generalkly speaking - i do not go into my pocket and risk my money only for kicks. i bet when i am 100% convinced my bet is worth the money.
    otherwise i pass.
    please focus on capping and betting and not on what i think i would take or do in that or the other situation that becomes hypothetical for me once i made up my mind and took the bet
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 9:04 PM ET #47

    Just want an opinion not thing offense u phixer
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    Just want an opinion not thing offense u phixer
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 9:09 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by WAIWAI:

    Just want an opinion not thing offense u phixer
    i am not offended at all. i just want t make sure you wouldn't bet the games according to anyones woulds. woulds do not cost money and do not trust an opinion not supported with money
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAIWAI:

    Just want an opinion not thing offense u phixer
    i am not offended at all. i just want t make sure you wouldn't bet the games according to anyones woulds. woulds do not cost money and do not trust an opinion not supported with money
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2015 - 9:29 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

     i understand what you're saying and at first that was my impression too. but with the same breath vick's ex coach inside info and the lack of self confidence posts at the raven's page brought me to a conclusion that in psychological mind games flacco expressing fair play expression while all around him is screaming - we want to win a game nop0 matter what - all that does not add up in my book and seems like an early excuse to the "possible lack of intensity" on flacco's part. and no flacco - no offense for the ravens

    Fair enough. GL with Pitt tomorrow night. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

     i understand what you're saying and at first that was my impression too. but with the same breath vick's ex coach inside info and the lack of self confidence posts at the raven's page brought me to a conclusion that in psychological mind games flacco expressing fair play expression while all around him is screaming - we want to win a game nop0 matter what - all that does not add up in my book and seems like an early excuse to the "possible lack of intensity" on flacco's part. and no flacco - no offense for the ravens

    Fair enough. GL with Pitt tomorrow night. 
     
     
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