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You're not actually laying more than a FG with Kirk Cousins as your QB, right?

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MickSpeed17

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 5:45 PM ET #76

Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

when you have only played 3 games and were blow out in Detriot stating the Giants are 30th against the pass don't really mean much come back with these stats after week 8 or 9 they have much more meaning

But Salvy, we're bettin on on wk-4 stats...not wk-8

peter10

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 8:04 PM ET #77

Quote Originally Posted by MickSpeed17:

But Salvy, we're bettin on on wk-4 stats...not wk-8

Yes i know and it's stupid to talk stats after 3 games ,

Better to look at things more relevant like common opponents sinse they both played Houston ,

But the more glarring fact is the Giants beat this team twice last year SU

and the Redskins are giving 3.5 points when they are 2-13 SU last 15 this team can't win games let alone cover spreads

bobafett

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 8:43 PM ET #78

.......other side

Gavinnick

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 9:09 PM ET #79

Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

.......other side

good thing your not taking the bait like PAPA SHANGO

potvin

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 9:58 PM ET #80

rarely comment, but read your write ups all the time. think you are an informative gambler. like the play, best of luck papa!

PapaShango

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 10:20 PM ET #81

Quote Originally Posted by potvin:

rarely comment, but read your write ups all the time. think you are an informative gambler. like the play, best of luck papa!

AceRothstein27

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 10:28 PM ET #82

Always tend to disagree with you pappa and do once again, kirk cousins is a solid qb. HOWEVER, couldnt agree more with what your saying about the redskins defense. How blinded everyone is by the stats after week 3. I mean, ITS WEEK 3!! I'm on the giants as well as i think the 3.5 is beautiful and the giants seem to be getting stronger each week. If you wanna get at kirk cousins, look at his worst game as a starter, 19-49 169 yards 2 picks... against Gmen. Is currently 0-3 in division games. With you on the giants, BOL

BundyBear1

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 10:30 PM ET #83

Unlike a previous poster I like the over here. Washington banged up defence vs Giants who have not shown much on D. Giants have played 3 very decent defences and have put some points up so against a banged up D I think will score. Cousins is good enough to post points with the weapons he has on the offense. I'll take the over 45

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 10:41 PM ET #84

Niners cover

calimike02

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 11:11 PM ET #85

Quote Originally Posted by SURFSUP:

Niners cover

niners aren't playing

Professional1

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 11:15 PM ET #86

Got 4.5 but Giants probably win outright gl

smarterthanyou

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 11:27 PM ET #87

Quote Originally Posted by calimike02:

niners aren't playing

yes, they are, just not vs the giants or skins

SURFSUP

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Posted: Sep. 23, 2014 - 11:37 PM ET #88

Quote Originally Posted by calimike02:

niners aren't playing

Ok if you say so

MrMoneyBags11

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 12:07 AM ET #89

Quote Originally Posted by rr207:

Giants are finished, they have issues...lots of them. They're just as banged up as anyone, and their offense is a mess.

do you watch the Giants? They are as healthy as they have ever been in years...Beason I believe will be playing also.

Last 2 games I have seen Eli make huge improvement from the Detroit game. His accuracy is way up.I give Eli more sh*t than anyone but he has not looked this confident since 2011. He is getting in sync with this west coast offense and if Jennings continues to run with authority the offense will build on their performance from Sunday.

I am worried about our Tampa 2 defense giving Wash recievers to much room to make plays but we do have good playmakers back there.

no play yet but giving serious consideration to the G-men and the ml. I think this team has a chance to go on a run starting this Thurs.

PapaShango

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 12:20 AM ET #90

Giants will be 3-4 going into their bye.

MrMoneyBags11

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 12:35 AM ET #91

Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

Giants will be 3-4 going into their bye.

a few tough games upcoming. I am a g-men fan but do bet against my team when called for. I am really liking what I am starting to see from the offense and Eli especially. The guy had a miserable 2 years but I saw signs in the Zona game that he was getting comfortable and then this past Sunday he put up a very good performance.

The defense is starting to get some pressure on the qb..and although I am not a fan of Perry Fewells system they do have the talent in secondary to make things happen.

Keep in mind...this is almost a totally revamped roster..these guys need time to gel and there is a chance we saw the beginning of that this Sunday. I see signs that we may actually play some meaningful games in late November-December...but for that to happen they need to go on a run right now.

rudy22

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 12:46 AM ET #92

Papa spews garbage out of his mouth every week, fade him and win. Cousins is solid, the offense is designed for a pocket QB. Their D is above average. One thing, I don't like the spread.

rudy22

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 12:49 AM ET #93

He is also a Eagles fan, biased view.

rudy22

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 12:50 AM ET #94

And if that isn't enough he needs to change his avatar.

DegenCurtis21

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 1:35 AM ET #95

I think Cousins is a better fit for Washington, anyway. He's played better than RG3. It's a fact. Taking either side in this game is really just gambling. The Giants had a nice win last week in a tough spot for the Texans & without their starting RB. Don't let that fool you and make you think they're a good team. The Giants are trash and backing Eli Manning on the road will have you banging your head against the wall. I'd take Cousins all day over Eli right now. With that said, I think the only play in this game is the under. The Skins are banged up after a physical battle & Coughlin is fighting for his job. I like the way the Giants front 7 has looked. But they don't have the weapons on the outside anymore on offense.

PapaShango

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 1:40 AM ET #96

Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:

Papa spews garbage out of his mouth every week, fade him and win. Cousins is solid, the offense is designed for a pocket QB. Their D is above average. One thing, I don't like the spread.

Fade me and win. Okay, let's do the math.

2012-2013 NFL Season: (149-110-5 57.5%)

Fading All My Plays: (110-149-5 42.5%)

2013-2014 NFL Season: (194-166-11 53.9% +26.63 Units)

Fading All My Plays: (166-194-11 46.1% -26.36 Units)

2014-2015 NFL Season: (25-16-1 61% +16.05 Units)

Fading All My Plays: (16-25-1 39% -16.05 Units)

Please, fade all of my plays. Your bookie will be very thankful.

PapaShango

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 1:41 AM ET #97

Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:

He is also a Eagles fan, biased view.

Biased view? You do realize that as an Eagles fan, I loath the Giants way more than the Redskins, because the Redskins have been irrelevant for over 20 years.

Argument #2 of a true idiot.

PapaShango

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 1:42 AM ET #98

Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:

And if that isn't enough he needs to change his avatar.

I will never change my avatar. Ever.

PapaShango

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Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 1:44 AM ET #99

Quote Originally Posted by DegenCurtis21:

I think Cousins is a better fit for Washington, anyway. He's played better than RG3. It's a fact. Taking either side in this game is really just gambling. The Giants had a nice win last week in a tough spot for the Texans & without their starting RB. Don't let that fool you and make you think they're a good team. The Giants are trash and backing Eli Manning on the road will have you banging your head against the wall. I'd take Cousins all day over Eli right now. With that said, I think the only play in this game is the under. The Skins are banged up after a physical battle & Coughlin is fighting for his job. I like the way the Giants front 7 has looked. But they don't have the weapons on the outside anymore on offense.

I've already posted a ton of reasons for taking the Giants on Thursday.