Yeah MIA actually generated a respectable pass rush (losing Wake hurt a lot, but by that point in the game I would say NE had a comfortable lead). 2 sacks, 6 QB hits, a few time flushing Brady out of the pocket and multiple times where Brady just didn't look comfortable, and yet NE offense finds a way to keep it rolling. Like I said before the game, NE is scoring on average ~14 points more against each team it faces than those teams average ppg against in all games NOT against NE. They keep that going tonight (Miami allowing 22.8 per game coming into this game and allowed 13 more than that to the Patriots. That is one impressive offense we're seeing, and yes I realize they had good field position a lot of the game and their defense absolutely shut down Miami, but still an impressive showing from Brady and co. Tough luck for those betting the over since NE did their part, really didn't see Miami generating only 7 points all game, but credit the NE defense for their execution of a great game plan.
Yeah MIA actually generated a respectable pass rush (losing Wake hurt a lot, but by that point in the game I would say NE had a comfortable lead). 2 sacks, 6 QB hits, a few time flushing Brady out of the pocket and multiple times where Brady just didn't look comfortable, and yet NE offense finds a way to keep it rolling. Like I said before the game, NE is scoring on average ~14 points more against each team it faces than those teams average ppg against in all games NOT against NE. They keep that going tonight (Miami allowing 22.8 per game coming into this game and allowed 13 more than that to the Patriots. That is one impressive offense we're seeing, and yes I realize they had good field position a lot of the game and their defense absolutely shut down Miami, but still an impressive showing from Brady and co. Tough luck for those betting the over since NE did their part, really didn't see Miami generating only 7 points all game, but credit the NE defense for their execution of a great game plan.
i think this is an amazing spot for the pats , coming off 2 great wins , but they are discounted . because they didn't cover a big number , coupled with every one falling in lover with miami after two blowout wins , then you factor in the fact that everyone remembers the fins playing the pats tough , but this is foxborough in primetime , and the pats have had back to back pretty terrible 2nd halfs, i expect them to run up the score if they get the chance
great call
Quote Originally Posted by pdouble:
i think this is an amazing spot for the pats , coming off 2 great wins , but they are discounted . because they didn't cover a big number , coupled with every one falling in lover with miami after two blowout wins , then you factor in the fact that everyone remembers the fins playing the pats tough , but this is foxborough in primetime , and the pats have had back to back pretty terrible 2nd halfs, i expect them to run up the score if they get the chance
They got their *sses kicked on offense, defense, and special teams.
That's the game I watched.
I'm going to have to agree with UpperEchelon here, for at least the first 6 possessions. After NE's initial drive, Miami held NE to 4 punts and a field goal (the FG came after a Miami INT, where NE was unable to move the ball). If Miami's offense had been able to do ANYTHING with the ball during their 6 possessions, it might have been a different game. NE wore out Miami's defense, and Miami's offense couldn't generate first downs to give their own defense a break. Up until it was 10-0 Miami's D actually played respectably I thought.
Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
They scored 36 on them before calling it a night.
They got their *sses kicked on offense, defense, and special teams.
That's the game I watched.
I'm going to have to agree with UpperEchelon here, for at least the first 6 possessions. After NE's initial drive, Miami held NE to 4 punts and a field goal (the FG came after a Miami INT, where NE was unable to move the ball). If Miami's offense had been able to do ANYTHING with the ball during their 6 possessions, it might have been a different game. NE wore out Miami's defense, and Miami's offense couldn't generate first downs to give their own defense a break. Up until it was 10-0 Miami's D actually played respectably I thought.
They got their *sses kicked on offense, defense, and special teams.
That's the game I watched.
Not exactly. 2 points off a safety and 10 off turnovers brings their total points down to 24. Without those they don't get anywhere near 36. The final score looks a little worse than the game Miami played, especially on defense.
Dropped passes, tripping over their own feet on running plays, Tannehill holding the ball too long.. And on the interceptions the broadcasters pointed out how they weren't sure if it was the wrong route or not by the receiver. Which would boil down to miscommunication.
Either way, the Miami offense played too inconsistently. That opening drive of the 2nd half where they went 70 yards and scored a TD was what they were capable of doing on any given series, but they just couldn't get it together.
Besides, it was 7-22 and smelled of a backdoor cover until the Miami offense turned it over again. Which, I'll point out, is them getting in their own way.
Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
They scored 36 on them before calling it a night.
They got their *sses kicked on offense, defense, and special teams.
That's the game I watched.
Not exactly. 2 points off a safety and 10 off turnovers brings their total points down to 24. Without those they don't get anywhere near 36. The final score looks a little worse than the game Miami played, especially on defense.
Dropped passes, tripping over their own feet on running plays, Tannehill holding the ball too long.. And on the interceptions the broadcasters pointed out how they weren't sure if it was the wrong route or not by the receiver. Which would boil down to miscommunication.
Either way, the Miami offense played too inconsistently. That opening drive of the 2nd half where they went 70 yards and scored a TD was what they were capable of doing on any given series, but they just couldn't get it together.
Besides, it was 7-22 and smelled of a backdoor cover until the Miami offense turned it over again. Which, I'll point out, is them getting in their own way.
Not exactly. 2 points off a safety and 10 off turnovers brings their total points down to 24. Without those they don't get anywhere near 36. The final score looks a little worse than the game Miami played, especially on defense.
Dropped passes, tripping over their own feet on running plays, Tannehill holding the ball too long.. And on the interceptions the broadcasters pointed out how they weren't sure if it was the wrong route or not by the receiver. Which would boil down to miscommunication.
Either way, the Miami offense played too inconsistently. That opening drive of the 2nd half where they went 70 yards and scored a TD was what they were capable of doing on any given series, but they just couldn't get it together.
Besides, it was 7-22 and smelled of a backdoor cover until the Miami offense turned it over again. Which, I'll point out, is them getting in their own way.
I wouldn't give Miami too much credit for that 3rd qtr TD drive. Notice that Matt Patricia and the Defense called a blitz on nearly every down during that series and got burned b/c Tannehill is a better QB when he can move and he escaped the pressure several times.
However, on all other drives you'll notice the Pats gameplan was to make him stand in the pocket, read the coverage, and deliver an accurate pass in tight windows, sprinkling in well timed blitzes but certainly playing way more coverage. That's generally a recipe for disaster in this case... Why?
The turnover in staff and youth on offense. All the WR and RB's are extremely talented but very young and haven't played together very long. Throw in a revolving door on the OL due to injury/sucky play, new coaches, short week to prepare and its likely you get an offensive performance like that.
I was impressed by Miami's ability to generate pressure but how much does that mean given that Patriots were down to their last OLman?
Quote Originally Posted by UpperEchelon:
Not exactly. 2 points off a safety and 10 off turnovers brings their total points down to 24. Without those they don't get anywhere near 36. The final score looks a little worse than the game Miami played, especially on defense.
Dropped passes, tripping over their own feet on running plays, Tannehill holding the ball too long.. And on the interceptions the broadcasters pointed out how they weren't sure if it was the wrong route or not by the receiver. Which would boil down to miscommunication.
Either way, the Miami offense played too inconsistently. That opening drive of the 2nd half where they went 70 yards and scored a TD was what they were capable of doing on any given series, but they just couldn't get it together.
Besides, it was 7-22 and smelled of a backdoor cover until the Miami offense turned it over again. Which, I'll point out, is them getting in their own way.
I wouldn't give Miami too much credit for that 3rd qtr TD drive. Notice that Matt Patricia and the Defense called a blitz on nearly every down during that series and got burned b/c Tannehill is a better QB when he can move and he escaped the pressure several times.
However, on all other drives you'll notice the Pats gameplan was to make him stand in the pocket, read the coverage, and deliver an accurate pass in tight windows, sprinkling in well timed blitzes but certainly playing way more coverage. That's generally a recipe for disaster in this case... Why?
The turnover in staff and youth on offense. All the WR and RB's are extremely talented but very young and haven't played together very long. Throw in a revolving door on the OL due to injury/sucky play, new coaches, short week to prepare and its likely you get an offensive performance like that.
I was impressed by Miami's ability to generate pressure but how much does that mean given that Patriots were down to their last OLman?
I wouldn't give Miami too much credit for that 3rd qtr TD drive. Notice that Matt Patricia and the Defense called a blitz on nearly every down during that series and got burned b/c Tannehill is a better QB when he can move and he escaped the pressure several times.
However, on all other drives you'll notice the Pats gameplan was to make him stand in the pocket, read the coverage, and deliver an accurate pass in tight windows, sprinkling in well timed blitzes but certainly playing way more coverage. That's generally a recipe for disaster in this case... Why?
The turnover in staff and youth on offense. All the WR and RB's are extremely talented but very young and haven't played together very long. Throw in a revolving door on the OL due to injury/sucky play, new coaches, short week to prepare and its likely you get an offensive performance like that.
I was impressed by Miami's ability to generate pressure but how much does that mean given that Patriots were down to their last OLman?
Disagree. Had to watch that drive again because I don't remember a lot of blitzes. There was only one pass play where they brought more than 4 people. Every other passing play on the drive they only brought 4 and dropped 7 back in coverage. Not exactly a blitz on every play. Tannehill beat the coverage and made good throws, all in the pocket except the last play that got them to the 2 yard line.
And now having watched it a second time, I for sure believe Miami was fully capable of putting up points against the Pats D if they weren't too busy beating themselves.
Quote Originally Posted by BainMasters:
I wouldn't give Miami too much credit for that 3rd qtr TD drive. Notice that Matt Patricia and the Defense called a blitz on nearly every down during that series and got burned b/c Tannehill is a better QB when he can move and he escaped the pressure several times.
However, on all other drives you'll notice the Pats gameplan was to make him stand in the pocket, read the coverage, and deliver an accurate pass in tight windows, sprinkling in well timed blitzes but certainly playing way more coverage. That's generally a recipe for disaster in this case... Why?
The turnover in staff and youth on offense. All the WR and RB's are extremely talented but very young and haven't played together very long. Throw in a revolving door on the OL due to injury/sucky play, new coaches, short week to prepare and its likely you get an offensive performance like that.
I was impressed by Miami's ability to generate pressure but how much does that mean given that Patriots were down to their last OLman?
Disagree. Had to watch that drive again because I don't remember a lot of blitzes. There was only one pass play where they brought more than 4 people. Every other passing play on the drive they only brought 4 and dropped 7 back in coverage. Not exactly a blitz on every play. Tannehill beat the coverage and made good throws, all in the pocket except the last play that got them to the 2 yard line.
And now having watched it a second time, I for sure believe Miami was fully capable of putting up points against the Pats D if they weren't too busy beating themselves.
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