Pretty sure that was simultaneous possession.....

 Sleepless in Seattle, Green Bay ah hell the World over this Monday Night game... Painful to watch the end ,it reminds of a bad movie why did i stay, thinking it will get better!!!

So if a running back has the ball a defender puts his hand in there to rip it out and has a hand on the ball that's dual possession too? I don't think you understand possession

I think you are clearly proving that you dont even understand the debate or the rule.

I would give up on this angle.

https://twitter.com/beyondthebets/status/250455872176783360/photo/1

 

clearly shows who has the ball.

 

Am basing my replay off of eastern time again... at 11:47 the replay shows that when Jennings 2nd foot hits the ground he is laying on top of Tate. Tate has his right arm over jennings on the ball...but you cannot see where the left arm is. If his left was on the ball too I can see where the refs would be forced into the call that was made.   As I run it forward further it appears the left was on the ball.

What the league needs to explain further is at what point can some posses the ball. If its when 2 feet hit the ground...I think "by rule" they might have got it right.

Couple other situations come to mind....the Calvin Johnson TD versus Chicago. Common sense said TD....rules said incomplete. And lets not forget the Pats/Raiders playoff game where the tuck rule came from.

I think this is a similar circumstance where common sense says INT but the rules say TD.  Either way it was a tough call to make...replacements or not

I suspect we will get more info on the rules in the hours ahead that might shed more light on this

Come on with that pic CD329.

Shows nothing.

 

Hey Van, jerry austin, probably one of the best refs ever, explained who had possession of the ball and it wasnt the seattle player.

Greeny bay player had the ball touching his chest with both hands on it and was on the ground. play was over at that point

https://twitter.com/mcarter0399/status/250458173822087169

this picture doesn't have anything to do with simultaneous possession.. no amount of words can dispute what this picture shows..

they got it wrong.. historic game..

Vanz always respect your posts but this is how i see it;

The announcers can shit on the zebras but that ball wasn't simultaneously possessed.  Although jennings should have batted it down, tate stuck an arm in there but clearly did not have possession.  furthermore, how can that call be upheld when there was no definitive answer on the field.  the backjudge who had the clearer view call it touchback as the other repositioned himself and called td after the wrestling.  in that case even the shit refs from last season would have huddled up called it incomplete which would have given them the opportunity to overturn it.  at that point in the game for all the marbles, both have a different view, make a different call and don't even get together to discuss it, that's what's inexplicable..The roughing the passer of the pick iffy BUT Shields pi call too, that was textbook defending..you felt something fishy coming and after betting for so many years any gambler smelt it.

Hhahaha so your asking for the NFL rule book but you seem to know it already hahah. 

Possession is possession same rules apply whether it be a fumble where player has two hands on the ball to his chest and another defender has an arm in there.  Same rules would apply 

 

are you drinking van?  it clearly shows the packer player having the ball before other guy ripped it away.

your not always right van

If you look at the point of contact where the ball touches a human hand it is Jennings' hands that actually CATCH the ball.   Tate gets his hand in and touches the ball but he is not actually "catching" it.   Again, look at he POINT OF CONTACT and tell me Tate is catching it.   ZOOM IN, SLOW IT DOWN and look at the point of contact.   

It was not simultaneous possession.   Got to be kidding me.

Bingo.

You guys think the "real" refs would have had any easier time with that play than these guys did?

Please.  Very tough play to rule.  Even after an hour and 100 replays there is disagreement.

Yes turn on espn they have read the NFL rule on it over 20 times already.  A player with two hands on the ball possessing it against his chest constitutes as sole possession

By rule , its not dude. Jennings caught it at it highest point by itself & clutched it to his CHEST signifing possesion. Just cause your touching it, doesn't make it simultaneous. Read the actual rule & it'll be clear to you. (and I'm not a GB fan)

are you drinking van? it clearly shows the packer player having the ball before other guy ripped it away.

your not always right van

Before?  How do you know it was before anything.  Just curious - are you drinking?

A still photo of that play cannot tell any story.  You know that.

The other point people are bringing up is that Tate's rear end hit the ground first before Jennings legs hit the ground. That is enough for possession, and his hands were wrapped around Jennings and on the ball.

 

case closed---correct call!!!!!

lets see scab ref calls it a touchdown = jerry austin calls it a int

why of course the scab ref  knows more

some of you guys crack me up.  you must have magical tv's