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Posted: #101

I have not heard ONE professional say it was simutaneous possession

Professional what?  Announcers?  Stuart Scott is a professional?

Come on.  I will admit I am wrong if a new angle, or a clarification to the rule comes out.  But not because Stuart Scott says so.

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Posted: #102
Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

yeah I don't think Jennings ever "established" possession

Turn on espn.  When a player has control of the ball pressed against his chest that constitutes as possession.  I can't believe how clueless some of you are
 
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And the NFL obviously doesn't give a fuck about the fans. To continue to put these clown refs out there week in and week out proves that.
 
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Posted: #104
Jennings caught it first and then Tate starting pulling the ball...

that wasn't simultaneous possession
 
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Posted: #105

Once again. For the third time. Im going to assume all of the self proclaimed smart people of this thread cant answer this...

Please tell me if there was ever a time that Jennings had the ball when Tate didnt.

No one will not answer your question honestly... cause... TATE HAD HIS HAND ON THE FUCKIN BALL THE WHOLE FUCKIN TIME JENNINGS DID AND BY RULE THE OFFENSE GET THE FUCKIN BALL!!! Why in THEE HELL NOBODY UNDERSTAND THIS??? By rule, by rule, BY RULE is the key word dammit!!!!

 
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Tate had a hand in there.  Clearly his hand was off the ball.  When they came down he put his 2nd hand in it.

Call was bullsh!t and the Pack got robbed.  I had a total play so it didn't matter.  Just saying.

Players must be real upset, put their heart and soul out there and get jobbed like that.
 
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Vanzack.... with all due respect

keep yourself focused on soccer

======>  that way sir please
 
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Posted: #108
Good post #98, please read Vanzack
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KingQuais:

No one will not answer your question honestly... cause... TATE HAD HIS HAND ON THE FUCKIN BALL THE WHOLE FUCKIN TIME JENNINGS DID AND BY RULE THE OFFENSE GET THE FUCKIN BALL!!! Why in THEE HELL NOBODY UNDERSTAND THIS??? By rule, by rule, BY RULE is the key word dammit!!!!


One hand in there when the other guy has it is not possession.
 
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Posted: #110

Van, Jennings was higher than Tate, he caught the ball from the very start. Can't you see that? Jennings caught/touched, the ball first, and made a full catch. Now, going down is when Tate put his hands on the ball.

Thats not what I see.  I see what appears to be 3 hands on the ball at the same time.  You can have possession with one hand - one handed catches are an every week occurrance.

Going down is when Tate got his SECOND hand on the ball.  But that doesnt make a difference IMO - I THINK the refs ruled and will rule that there was simultaneous possesssion BEFORE the second hand of tate went on the ball.

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Quote Originally Posted by shark_apreza:

Vanzack.... with all due respect

keep yourself focused on soccer

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Posted: #112
They should have called head of officiating.  There was no reason to go fast.  They did an awful job.

Even Carroll had to smile when he said it was simultaneous possession. 

 
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DCMC - Read post 104.
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Posted: #114
vanzack:  jennings had it more than tate when tate lets go with his right hand on the way down
 
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Im guessing someone answered this already but one major deal breaker is that the refs want a FULL PENSION for working 17-21 days a year.  I hate these replacement refs but no way someone should get full retirement out of working 21 days max a year.  Period.
 
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SJSharks, that's what said in post #102. We are right. Jennings caught the ball 1st from the start. Then coming down is when Tate joined in
 
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Why can't anyone, even on TV, see what Van and I are seeing?....Tate's left hand was inside of Jenning's chest......yes, Jennings had two hands on it, and a little more, but Tate had a nice piece too.....that's called S I M U L T A N E O U S

and that goes to the offense....show me how the rule where it says it's not simultaneous because the D had a little more?
 
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Posted: #118

Wait a day or two boys...

Maybe I am wrong and it will come out - and maybe Im not and it will come out.

Right now I think if you are listening to Stuart Scott and his colleagues - you should probably wait.

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"it's a tough call by the nfl. if i had a bunch of shitty employees who asked me for a raise, i wouldn't be quick to say yes just becuase their replcemewnts might be worse."

Clubdirt: this is 100% why they need to say yes.  It is the replacement cost. 

 
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Why can't anyone, even on TV, see what Van and I are seeing?....Tate's left hand was inside of Jenning's chest......yes, Jennings had two hands on it, and a little more, but Tate had a nice piece too.....that's called S I M U L T A N E O U S

and that goes to the offense....show me how the rule where it says it's not simultaneous because the D had a little more?
 
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Vanzack, I read #104. Jon Gruden is a professional, and knows football a lot better than we do. He said, that was an interception.
 
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You can have possession with one hand - one handed catches are an every week occurrance.

 
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The simultaneous rule only applies if BOTH players have possession of the ball when both touch it. If one has possession, and then the other guy fights enough to make it simultaneous possession, it goes to the player who possessed it first.
 
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It's not possession when you have a hand in there.  If that was the case somebody could put their thumb on the ball and call it possession on a fumble.  You ever see simultaneous possession on a fumble?  Everbody has a hand on the ball. Same issue.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

The simultaneous rule only applies if BOTH players have possession of the ball when both touch it. If one has possession, and then the other guy fights enough to make it simultaneous possession, it goes to the player who possessed it first.


xactly. just horrible officiating
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