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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 5:06 AM ET #1376

    Sorry I didnt get to post in time,, i was boxed up... ... I was waiting to get crucified...Thanks for standing up for me fellas


    No-sea OVER   "The weather was bad so i took the OVER"

    Ne + Over     "They said the weather is bad "again" and will rain,, double up on the over here.... I saw that 7.5 just stuck there pretty much all week not "7"... You know you have to lock in NE... 

    Brady was exposed twice this season,, has the easiest schedule and beat both of these teams... And of coarse loses to the bad ones,, especially in his own division... 
    NE-ATL
    NE-NO

    Gotta be careful,, those margins are never this narrow and is tapering fast... V turned on the remote control... i tellya... Of these games....

    KC-IND
    GB-SF
    NO-SEA

    All lands on 1 point or less... LOL that's 3 out of 6 games already at a 50% rate... 


    Match up guesses

    Brady / Manning rematch would be pretty Hollywood
    NE-DEN

    SEA-CAR
    Wouldn't be as repetitive  As SEA-SF


    Which is why im going with the pack on CAR or no play... 

    Guys,,,
    Been catching up on NBA,,, Its so much easier... 
    Waiting for the SB.. Im going 60 units against the public.... and 20-30 units on the totals... cant wait... 

    Bol guys









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    Sorry I didnt get to post in time,, i was boxed up... ... I was waiting to get crucified...Thanks for standing up for me fellas


    No-sea OVER   "The weather was bad so i took the OVER"

    Ne + Over     "They said the weather is bad "again" and will rain,, double up on the over here.... I saw that 7.5 just stuck there pretty much all week not "7"... You know you have to lock in NE... 

    Brady was exposed twice this season,, has the easiest schedule and beat both of these teams... And of coarse loses to the bad ones,, especially in his own division... 
    NE-ATL
    NE-NO

    Gotta be careful,, those margins are never this narrow and is tapering fast... V turned on the remote control... i tellya... Of these games....

    KC-IND
    GB-SF
    NO-SEA

    All lands on 1 point or less... LOL that's 3 out of 6 games already at a 50% rate... 


    Match up guesses

    Brady / Manning rematch would be pretty Hollywood
    NE-DEN

    SEA-CAR
    Wouldn't be as repetitive  As SEA-SF


    Which is why im going with the pack on CAR or no play... 

    Guys,,,
    Been catching up on NBA,,, Its so much easier... 
    Waiting for the SB.. Im going 60 units against the public.... and 20-30 units on the totals... cant wait... 

    Bol guys









     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 5:14 AM ET #1377

    One last thing guys,, if you go back to when Brady played Tim Tebow in the playoffs... Brady Made tebow look like fool just and the game went over,, it was the most hollywood thing i have ever seen almost.. 
    This year they did it again... If you guys know Robert Kraft,,, That's his Tommy Boy on CBS.....

    Brady is the SHOW... 
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    One last thing guys,, if you go back to when Brady played Tim Tebow in the playoffs... Brady Made tebow look like fool just and the game went over,, it was the most hollywood thing i have ever seen almost.. 
    This year they did it again... If you guys know Robert Kraft,,, That's his Tommy Boy on CBS.....

    Brady is the SHOW... 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 5:26 AM ET #1378

    Dusty we nailed the brady game
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 8:28 AM ET #1379

    The rain bowl 
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 8:35 AM ET #1380

    Just because you suck at sports betting doesn't mean Vegas is managing game outcomes! Really how do you come up with this stuff? Have you ever even been to Las Vegas? They don't determine the outcomes, they just rely on suckers like you to build big casinos.
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    Just because you suck at sports betting doesn't mean Vegas is managing game outcomes! Really how do you come up with this stuff? Have you ever even been to Las Vegas? They don't determine the outcomes, they just rely on suckers like you to build big casinos.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 9:36 AM ET #1381

    So the Sea game wasn't a good enough example of the line dictating the game did you see the ending enough arguing about this it's childish somebody will not except this concept that's great that's why this racket works as long as you win 55% that's all that matters ok it's a wide world of wonders we live in so choose your rabbit holes but that thing is the masses lack of intellectual integerty is making these people more brazen in thier criminal ways all I'm asking is for the general betting public to take it serious enough even if you are already rich to make informed wagered before you sully the waters with your monies Covers is the most public gambling site out there and I noticed this being sharp thing is like being a hipster where 10 yrs ago only sophisticated gamblers even knew of the concept these games are constructed to be 50/50 split ok so it should really never be 90% of wagers on any game if so the line makers are incompetent which we know they are not now you'll have a buch of smuchs trying to be sharp wagering on the wrong side then you'll have majorities bringing lines down like we had yesterday in Sea it's always an agreement for both sides in sports and the wagers should always reflect that as long as people keep looking for the easy ones and freebies you'll get this corruption if people just did the homework and picked more logically it wouldn't be any fixed games this conversation just reflects the state of the biz we are in at this time sports wagering is being promoted in movies all over tv more than ever and a lot of other reasons Im very confident that games have always been fixed here and there but I think this is the hey day of the predetermined era now what if I told you the same thing goes for wall street ...
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    So the Sea game wasn't a good enough example of the line dictating the game did you see the ending enough arguing about this it's childish somebody will not except this concept that's great that's why this racket works as long as you win 55% that's all that matters ok it's a wide world of wonders we live in so choose your rabbit holes but that thing is the masses lack of intellectual integerty is making these people more brazen in thier criminal ways all I'm asking is for the general betting public to take it serious enough even if you are already rich to make informed wagered before you sully the waters with your monies Covers is the most public gambling site out there and I noticed this being sharp thing is like being a hipster where 10 yrs ago only sophisticated gamblers even knew of the concept these games are constructed to be 50/50 split ok so it should really never be 90% of wagers on any game if so the line makers are incompetent which we know they are not now you'll have a buch of smuchs trying to be sharp wagering on the wrong side then you'll have majorities bringing lines down like we had yesterday in Sea it's always an agreement for both sides in sports and the wagers should always reflect that as long as people keep looking for the easy ones and freebies you'll get this corruption if people just did the homework and picked more logically it wouldn't be any fixed games this conversation just reflects the state of the biz we are in at this time sports wagering is being promoted in movies all over tv more than ever and a lot of other reasons Im very confident that games have always been fixed here and there but I think this is the hey day of the predetermined era now what if I told you the same thing goes for wall street ...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 9:49 AM ET #1382

    Picks coming soon not gonna lie I'm fatigued boy I'm gonna party this super bowl I've had enough NFL for one season get I'm ready to roll the NBA and college 3-5 wagers daily dmn it feels good being a degen
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    Picks coming soon not gonna lie I'm fatigued boy I'm gonna party this super bowl I've had enough NFL for one season get I'm ready to roll the NBA and college 3-5 wagers daily dmn it feels good being a degen
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 12:04 PM ET #1383


    SF 21
    Car 26 

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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 4:38 PM ET #1384

    SD + OVER
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2014 - 4:46 PM ET #1385

     Cleteblakeman go to work baby i need this
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2014 - 10:19 AM ET #1386

    I lost by a hook on den another dumb mistake on my part I'll blame the fatigue everyone knows to by the hook with -7.5 favs anyway I'll take the lost the books are desperate with these back doors because everybody knows who's winning these games outright I reluctantly backed cam because I've been fading him all year lol SF seemed to easy I'm a dumb sharp anyhow what are we leaning guys I need early incite before all the garbage opinion swaying begins midweek.I have already locked in SF/Sea over 39 + Den -6 parley better sure that should cash Payton didn't look great and SD played strictly for a cover so  that was pretty much an off wk for Den the should be fresh and ready and amped to play the Pats it's revenge factor and this is the game were all the decemation to NE on both sides of the ball will finallyeffect them this maybe thd last time we see Zbrady vs. Manning Isnd I def see Manning solidifying his name as the best morden day QB it should be an easy one. The Sea game is going to be more a battle the QBs are like arch enemies at this point this game had been hyped up since before the season started which is why I feel so boneheaded not backing SF anyway I feel this is another great opportunity to back them one last time this game is gonna be dumb tight the line looks desperate I'll take that hook this time Sea will not cover them 3 times in a row nah Sea will win by one pt in some amaze balls way BOL lets get it ..I'm going to get a box of 5 hr engery peace all
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    I lost by a hook on den another dumb mistake on my part I'll blame the fatigue everyone knows to by the hook with -7.5 favs anyway I'll take the lost the books are desperate with these back doors because everybody knows who's winning these games outright I reluctantly backed cam because I've been fading him all year lol SF seemed to easy I'm a dumb sharp anyhow what are we leaning guys I need early incite before all the garbage opinion swaying begins midweek.I have already locked in SF/Sea over 39 + Den -6 parley better sure that should cash Payton didn't look great and SD played strictly for a cover so  that was pretty much an off wk for Den the should be fresh and ready and amped to play the Pats it's revenge factor and this is the game were all the decemation to NE on both sides of the ball will finallyeffect them this maybe thd last time we see Zbrady vs. Manning Isnd I def see Manning solidifying his name as the best morden day QB it should be an easy one. The Sea game is going to be more a battle the QBs are like arch enemies at this point this game had been hyped up since before the season started which is why I feel so boneheaded not backing SF anyway I feel this is another great opportunity to back them one last time this game is gonna be dumb tight the line looks desperate I'll take that hook this time Sea will not cover them 3 times in a row nah Sea will win by one pt in some amaze balls way BOL lets get it ..I'm going to get a box of 5 hr engery peace all
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2014 - 6:25 PM ET #1387

    Divisional 

    House loses --------->   SF-CAR

    House will not lose----> SD-DEN

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    CONFERENCE 

    TAKING
    DEN OVER NE LARGE  LOCK (YOU WIN ONE,, I WIN ONE..)

    Then most likely SEATTLE...  
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    House loses --------->   SF-CAR

    House will not lose----> SD-DEN

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    CONFERENCE 

    TAKING
    DEN OVER NE LARGE  LOCK (YOU WIN ONE,, I WIN ONE..)

    Then most likely SEATTLE...  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2014 - 11:47 PM ET #1388

    I didn't do great this weekend. The only games I won were going against my bets at halftime to try to hedge. It really is looking like Denver wins this and manning goes out like elway 
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    I didn't do great this weekend. The only games I won were going against my bets at halftime to try to hedge. It really is looking like Denver wins this and manning goes out like elway 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2014 - 2:38 AM ET #1389

    I like it!
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2014 - 3:04 PM ET #1390

    Conference 

    There's a ton of action that came in and is coming in on NE. I sure hope it keeps its pace as expected. 

    There's a reason why the den\ne game is the early game, I'm thinking its because they don't want this to be prime time. 

    I'm kinda liking the under on den as well. 
    And starting to really like the over on sf/sea

    Den (25units) locked. Under (8 units) locked

    Sea-sf over (12 units) locked 

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    There's a ton of action that came in and is coming in on NE. I sure hope it keeps its pace as expected. 

    There's a reason why the den\ne game is the early game, I'm thinking its because they don't want this to be prime time. 

    I'm kinda liking the under on den as well. 
    And starting to really like the over on sf/sea

    Den (25units) locked. Under (8 units) locked

    Sea-sf over (12 units) locked 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2014 - 3:17 PM ET #1391

    27-16 Seattle.
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2014 - 6:03 PM ET #1392

    I hear you - but remember the point spread is not necessarily a prediction of the outcome of the game, though more often than not the actual margin of tends to land very close.

    For me what's getting to me about betting... or even WATCHING the NFL is that we are being served an inferior product. The more games I watch, the more idiotic and illogical playcalling and clock-management I see. 

    It blows my mind how teams that could win easily in the waning moments don't. Or make it more stressful than it has to be.  There are 3 or 4 coaches that have a clue about clock management and play-calling - esp when the game is on the line. That means the remaining 28 coaches/teams will light a match and toss it on your hard earned cash when you bet on them.  

    The NFL is an inferior product since the past 5 years or so.
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    I hear you - but remember the point spread is not necessarily a prediction of the outcome of the game, though more often than not the actual margin of tends to land very close.

    For me what's getting to me about betting... or even WATCHING the NFL is that we are being served an inferior product. The more games I watch, the more idiotic and illogical playcalling and clock-management I see. 

    It blows my mind how teams that could win easily in the waning moments don't. Or make it more stressful than it has to be.  There are 3 or 4 coaches that have a clue about clock management and play-calling - esp when the game is on the line. That means the remaining 28 coaches/teams will light a match and toss it on your hard earned cash when you bet on them.  

    The NFL is an inferior product since the past 5 years or so.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal_WiseGuy:

    I hear you - but remember the point spread is not necessarily a prediction of the outcome of the game, though more often than not the actual margin of tends to land very close.

    For me what's getting to me about betting... or even WATCHING the NFL is that we are being served an inferior product. The more games I watch, the more idiotic and illogical playcalling and clock-management I see. 

    It blows my mind how teams that could win easily in the waning moments don't. Or make it more stressful than it has to be.  There are 3 or 4 coaches that have a clue about clock management and play-calling - esp when the game is on the line. That means the remaining 28 coaches/teams will light a match and toss it on your hard earned cash when you bet on them.  

    The NFL is an inferior product since the past 5 years or so.

    They all have a clue, the minute they don't, mr footlocker steps in. 

    Some believe its a cat and mouse game. I believe there's many more animals involved. There's no product that can even come close to the nfl. I guess you can try watching the nba? Now that's disgusting. 
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    I hear you - but remember the point spread is not necessarily a prediction of the outcome of the game, though more often than not the actual margin of tends to land very close.

    For me what's getting to me about betting... or even WATCHING the NFL is that we are being served an inferior product. The more games I watch, the more idiotic and illogical playcalling and clock-management I see. 

    It blows my mind how teams that could win easily in the waning moments don't. Or make it more stressful than it has to be.  There are 3 or 4 coaches that have a clue about clock management and play-calling - esp when the game is on the line. That means the remaining 28 coaches/teams will light a match and toss it on your hard earned cash when you bet on them.  

    The NFL is an inferior product since the past 5 years or so.

    They all have a clue, the minute they don't, mr footlocker steps in. 

    Some believe its a cat and mouse game. I believe there's many more animals involved. There's no product that can even come close to the nfl. I guess you can try watching the nba? Now that's disgusting. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2014 - 10:02 AM ET #1394

    When a line is as low as it is on the Seahawks/49ers game, makes me want to bet the over, the games usually seem to go under the low total, don't they? Too think these two teams won't score a few TD each in a win or go home game, sure makes me want to take the over. But thats when I lose. I'm thinking under! Scary bet tho!
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    When a line is as low as it is on the Seahawks/49ers game, makes me want to bet the over, the games usually seem to go under the low total, don't they? Too think these two teams won't score a few TD each in a win or go home game, sure makes me want to take the over. But thats when I lose. I'm thinking under! Scary bet tho!
    GL Everyone
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregga55:

    When a line is as low as it is on the Seahawks/49ers game, makes me want to bet the over, the games usually seem to go under the low total, don't they? Too think these two teams won't score a few TD each in a win or go home game, sure makes me want to take the over. But thats when I lose. I'm thinking under! Scary bet tho!
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    Yep for many years it has. Prior trends were Pitt,chi,bal unders, now they all go over. And that's a very good observation, the Seahawks vs sf game is set to have even money. But the totals I believe the public will take the under considering both teams defenses and scoring recently. Which is why I'm digging the over play. 
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    When a line is as low as it is on the Seahawks/49ers game, makes me want to bet the over, the games usually seem to go under the low total, don't they? Too think these two teams won't score a few TD each in a win or go home game, sure makes me want to take the over. But thats when I lose. I'm thinking under! Scary bet tho!
    GL Everyone

    Yep for many years it has. Prior trends were Pitt,chi,bal unders, now they all go over. And that's a very good observation, the Seahawks vs sf game is set to have even money. But the totals I believe the public will take the under considering both teams defenses and scoring recently. Which is why I'm digging the over play. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:


    Yep for many years it has. Prior trends were Pitt,chi,bal unders, now they all go over. And that's a very good observation, the Seahawks vs sf game is set to have even money. But the totals I believe the public will take the under considering both teams defenses and scoring recently. Which is why I'm digging the over play. 

    You say you locked in Denver for Sunday. .......What line did you get? State your line because you always talk out of both sides of your mouth junior
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    Yep for many years it has. Prior trends were Pitt,chi,bal unders, now they all go over. And that's a very good observation, the Seahawks vs sf game is set to have even money. But the totals I believe the public will take the under considering both teams defenses and scoring recently. Which is why I'm digging the over play. 

    You say you locked in Denver for Sunday. .......What line did you get? State your line because you always talk out of both sides of your mouth junior
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2014 - 10:39 AM ET #1398

    I see what your saying XYZ, and the line does seems to be going down, Confused a little on this one! Do you know which way the last 3 or 4 NFC champions went. Over or under? Looking for some different angles. 
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    I see what your saying XYZ, and the line does seems to be going down, Confused a little on this one! Do you know which way the last 3 or 4 NFC champions went. Over or under? Looking for some different angles. 
     
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    Totals are a lot harder for me to tell except for marque matchups. Lopsided action is always easier to tell on the sides. So when lines are set correctly on the sides il play the totals. Last year playoffs the public got smashed thinking the games should go under because the playoffs matter more to both teams. So sometimes it alternates by year because the public remembers last year playoffs. And sometimes it's a game by game basis. The house knows which side to herd the sheep but they don't always know the collective late action and settle inflated lines. So in reference to your question. I think the public would have caught on to certain trends throughout the season and what's ahead. My psychology tells me it won't change their perception when it's so deeply embedded into their brains. So I play according to this mentality and have been quite successful on my larger plays. Having the stats help map out a lot, for instance being able to see a pattern on one page to get a picture. But what matters most is what's behind the line and how the public will react according to that window. 
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    Totals are a lot harder for me to tell except for marque matchups. Lopsided action is always easier to tell on the sides. So when lines are set correctly on the sides il play the totals. Last year playoffs the public got smashed thinking the games should go under because the playoffs matter more to both teams. So sometimes it alternates by year because the public remembers last year playoffs. And sometimes it's a game by game basis. The house knows which side to herd the sheep but they don't always know the collective late action and settle inflated lines. So in reference to your question. I think the public would have caught on to certain trends throughout the season and what's ahead. My psychology tells me it won't change their perception when it's so deeply embedded into their brains. So I play according to this mentality and have been quite successful on my larger plays. Having the stats help map out a lot, for instance being able to see a pattern on one page to get a picture. But what matters most is what's behind the line and how the public will react according to that window. 
     
     
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    . Last year playoffs the public got smashed thinking the games should go under because the playoffs matter more to both teams. So sometimes it alternates by year because the public remembers last year playoffs. 


    yep its a game within a game.

    first week of playoffs. all dogs covered. some won.
    second week. all favorites won. some pushes. and chargers covered by 1

    im thinking a split. this weekend. one favorite one dog.
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    . Last year playoffs the public got smashed thinking the games should go under because the playoffs matter more to both teams. So sometimes it alternates by year because the public remembers last year playoffs. 


    yep its a game within a game.

    first week of playoffs. all dogs covered. some won.
    second week. all favorites won. some pushes. and chargers covered by 1

    im thinking a split. this weekend. one favorite one dog.
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